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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford Exhaust Ports
RE: FTE 61-79 - Toys and stuff....
RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)
RE: FTE 61-79 - Reverse Rotation
FTE 61-79 - FE Oiling Mods
RE: FTE 61-79 - rough running on cold mornings
RE: FTE 61-79 - Running 205 TC backwards in low range.
RE: FTE 61-79 - Running 205 TC backwards in low range.
FTE 61-79 - Torque spec for C6 clutch bands.
RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)
RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)
FTE 61-79 - 78' Three speed on 87' engine
FTE 61-79 - Ford Exhaust Ports
FTE 61-79 - Ford FE Oiling, was Ford Exhaust Ports
FTE 61-79 - Dexron vs Ford ATF
FTE 61-79 - sqealing heater
Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)
RE: FTE 61-79 - Dexron vs Ford ATF
RE: FTE 61-79 - 78' Three speed on 87' engine
FTE 61-79 - Toys, continued :-)
Re: FTE 61-79 - sqealing heater
FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"
FTE 61-79 - Holidays
FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"
Re: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6
FTE 61-79 - Re: Rough running when its cold and damp
FTE 61-79 - LH threads
FTE 61-79 - Ford f-100 1976 questions
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"
FTE 61-79 - Transmission hum, NP435
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"
FTE 61-79 - Carb Choice for 79 F250 with 400 CID
RE: FTE 61-79 - rough running on cold mornings
RE: FTE 61-79 - 78' Three speed on 87' engine
Re: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford FE Oiling, was Ford Exhaust Ports
FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250
FTE 61-79 - Anti Seize

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:50:09 -0500
From: "G.T. Herpich" bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford Exhaust Ports

A4x4junky aol.com wrote:

>
> What in your opinion would improved oiling require?

Starting with a new oil pump you can go with a high volume unit. Where the pump
attaches to the block the passage to the oil filter adapter should be enlarged
to
1/2 and chamfered to match the pump. Try to find a Cobra Jet filter adapter
(I don't know if they're still available from Ford) or enlarge the passages on
the stock
one. Also chamfer the passages in the block.
As mentioned by JJJJ the next step is restricting the enormous amount of oil
that goes to the lifters and starves the main bearings. I seam to remember
drilling
the 1/4 plugs .080 but it's been a long time.
Another passage that can use restriction is the rocker shafts.

George

>

>
>
> Anthony
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:02:32 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Toys and stuff....

Unless you spill it there won't be a sufficient concentration to ignite but
that is a thought :-) A little caution never hurts. I talked to my gas man
about running some line for a temp heater in the barn and we were going to
run tank pressure at one point but then he pointed out that tank pressure in
the building would be dangerous because the propane can return to liquid
form at that pressure and drain into the burners from my pipes so we have to
regulate it at the tank to prevent this. This only became an issue because
of the size of the burner, 200,000 btu. It sure is nice to have people
around who know more than I do on such matters or I would get into
deeeeeeppppppp DooooooDooooooo :-)

I've blown myself up (brush pile), Dumped a full 5 gal gas can into the fire
we were trying to build (that was lots of fun :-)), Blew up a car when I cut
through the gas line, pulled a 40X120' 1850 vintage barn down on myself
(smashed the snot out of the fenders of the tractor I was on), Fell off of
helicopters, dumped horses and dirt bikes on myself, got chased down the
basement stairs by stud tired and large street motorcyles (very painful
experiences, both :-)), slid off the road at considerable speed in the snow
and ice, fallen off of ladders and walked away from it all with few scars
but.......there's always the next time....:-)

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> > Speaking of which, anyone know a source for a cheap, self priming,
> > drill run pump I could use to transfer gas from one tank
> to another?

> Won't the sparks from the drill motor......BOOM!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:08:57 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)

The modulator is nothing but a vacuum motor or vacuum operated actuator
which pushes a pin in the govenor circuit to control line pressure etc...
If it's not leaking it is probably working but it's possible that it is bad.
What is more likely is that your line came off again :-) I had one that
came off every time I hit a bump till I replaced the rubber. You can
actually change the 1st gear upshift point by alterning the length of the
pin which floats between the modulator plunger and valve body plunger.

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> Gary,
> I went out this morning thinking that the problem had
> been solved. I started her up and took off. When I
> returned it was doing it again. Could I have "burnt
> out" the modulator? At this stage, I am ready to drop
> a 4-speed back into the thing.
>
> Rich
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:21:11 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Reverse Rotation

Dynatrac and currie both make rear ford 9" (and other axles) reverse
rotation axles which put the pinion on top. I haven't really studied this
but I believe they got the name due to the fact that when you turn them over
you need to also reverse the angles in the gears to make them efficient, not
sure. They have to be designed that way or they don't oil properly so you
can't just turn them over. The shorter the drive shaft the more this is
indicated which is why it is very common for the front axles to come from
the factory that way. If you lift your vehicle this will reduce ujoint wear
and stress from torqeing as well.

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> Thanks Gary you jogged my memory on something with your lug
> nut post. It's
> unrelated, but it rang the bell.
>
> I see in the 4X mags stuff about some Fords having "reverse
> rotation" to do
> with the drive axles. What is it all about, anyone know?
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:03:35 -0600
From: ballingr bootheel.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Oiling Mods

<< Let me reiterate, an FE turns into a stuttering, slobbering, rabid beast
with headers and a bit more cam, enough that they will self-destruct if you
don't improve the oiling on them. >>

>>>What in your opinion would improved oiling require?

It's a good idea to drill out the passage that goes between the oil pump and
filter adapter to 7/16 inch. Use a mid-70's truck oil filter adapter, or
the 427 style that's still available for about $50. You should chamfer the
feed holes in the main saddles to fit your bearings. And, I prefer to run a
solid-lifter cam because plugging the lifter galleys just keeps that much
more oil in the bottom end. To plug the galleys, you pull those two cup
plugs in the back that sit over the lifter galleys, and tap the holes
underneath (you'll see what I mean when you get in there) for galley plugs,
and replace the cup plugs. You have to adjust them once in a while, but I
think they are worth it. You can get them in mild to absolutely berserk
profiles. I'm going to run a Comp Cams 270S solid cam in my 390 that's
sitting ready to go together. Federal Mogul still makes the 427-style
adjustable 1.76 rockers (about $150 a set), and solid-lifter style shafts
($13 each) that are priced reasonable.

I wouldn't go overboard with the restrictors to the rockerarms, I've heard
of folks getting down to .060-.080, that might be too small for some
engines. I don't like the idea of restricting it down in the block either.
Take a couple of old Holley jets and drill them out to .100 and press-fit
them into the feed holes under the rocker stands right before you install
the rocker shafts. They'll crush down and stay in place, and if you realize
you want more or less restriction, just get another pair and drill them out,
it's as simple as pulling the rocker-shafts, instead of the heads.

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:17:42 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - rough running on cold mornings

I just plugged Mallory into the Metacrawler and found a couple of
distributors but couldn't find the Mallory site. They may not even have
one.

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> mornings. ;-) Again though I would still like to know if
> anybody is aware
> of a web site where I can get some info on the Mallory dual
> point I have in
> the truck. Does Mallory have their own web site? Thanks people!
>
> Chuck
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:20:41 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Running 205 TC backwards in low range.

This might work in theory but I think making use of it might be a pain :-)
Most, if not all, PTO's have a separete lever to engage them so they are
independent of whether the vehicle is in gear or not since they run off the
input gear set which is always coupled with the engine. In this case there
would be no way to run it in neutral.....:-(

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> If you mount the 205 upside down, you could use the front drive
> to run a PTO hydraulic unit, for a hydraulic winch or other toy
> couldnt ya??
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:22:20 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Running 205 TC backwards in low range.

Ok, wasn't thinking :-( Forgot they are IFS/IRS.....probably no good at
doing your taxes either :-)

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> > Course it won't be long and we'll see the hummer axles out
> there >available
> > too which are about the same thing I guess :-)
> >
>
> Not really. I don't think that indep. crap is in the same league
> personally. These are solid axles, with a real 6+ inches of
> extra ground
> clearance.
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:20:50 -0600
From: prozelloaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Torque spec for C6 clutch bands.

Does anyone know the torque specification for a C6 tranny, as far as
tightening the band.
Thank You,
Paul


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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:28:13 -0800 (PST)
From: rich may yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)

The line was still attatched. Do you have any idea
what a new modulator costs?


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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:39:37 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)

Seems like they are about $15, been a while :-) When you pull it, oil will
run out. The trickis to loosen the clamp, have the new one lying where you
can grab it, pull the old one and stick your finger in the hole til you get
the new one lined up then slam it in. It has an o ring to seal it so don't
damage that :-) Pretty hard to do without spilling an little oil so don't
lay under it or stand under it and wear eye protection. There are no
springs so no surprises unless something is broken in there :-) Make sure
the pin goes back in the new one if it happens to come out with the old one.
Won't work without the pin :-)

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> The line was still attatched. Do you have any idea
> what a new modulator costs?
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:15:01 GMT
From: davewildtc3net.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 78' Three speed on 87' engine

I was wondering if anyone would know if a 78' ford 3 speed on the column tranny could
be bolted to an 87' fuel injected engine? I am planning on swapping a fuel injected
inline six into my 78'. I have been doing some research and cannot find much difference
in the blocks except for the occasional sensor hole. I was just wondering if a 78'
bell housing, ctutch(11" I belive), and tranny would mate up without much trouble.
ANYTHING would help me.

Thanks

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:17:54 -0600
From: John Strauss inetport.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford Exhaust Ports

>Let me reiterate, an FE turns into a stuttering, slobbering, rabid beast
>with headers and a bit more cam
>
Bill, I like that one. I want my 390 to be all stock but I might consider
headers just because of your very eloquent (to me) statement.

I agree with you completely about Ford exhaust ports. I too have always
wondered why they were that way. This whole scenario is why any grease
monkey can bolt a set of headers on a Chevy 350 and blow the doors off all
his Ford buddies. Headers just don't do anything on most Fords of my youth
(i.e. 385 and Windsor). This is also why Ford was so severely handicapped
in NASCAR against Chevy for so many years when running the 351C because
NASCAR wouldn't allow the port plates you alluded to. It wasn't until they
made the switch to the Windsor AND the NASCAR rulers got serious about
parity and started to allow heads that were much farther away from stock
than they had previously allowed that things started to even up.

Thanks for your note - I enjoyed it.
_
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:27:41 -0600
From: John Strauss inetport.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford FE Oiling, was Ford Exhaust Ports

>to improve oiling on the fe, install restrictors in the rocker arm oil
holes,
>this keeps the oil in the bottom end, instead of
>the top end. some of the old fe drag racers used to talk about cutting short
>pcs of pipe (the kind you smoke) filters and putting them in the oil holes
to
>restrict the flow, but i think i would rather have a machined restrictor.
>
Just to clarify, the trick is to put a pipe cleaner in the PUSH ROD, not in
the rocker arm. I have not ever done this personally but seen it before, I
am told it works on any engine that oils the top too much. Oldsmobile
Rockets also suffer from this affliction.
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:26:24 -0600
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dexron vs Ford ATF

I am not inclined to argue the point. Last summer I looked it up in my
Motor's Manual (not a definitive source, true, but I am satisfied). It cited
76 as the changeover year to Dexron. It would not be a surprise to discover
that 76 is a mixed bag with some of one kind, some of another. I have the
original Owner's Manual for my truck since my uncle bought it new and I am
the third owner. The Owner's Manual clearly states that the transmission is
a C6 and should have Dexron ATF. As wish stated, even the late model FoMoCos
call for Ford ATF in the power steering system. However, when I replaced the
PS pump about 2 years ago on my pickup, I used Dexron III. No leaks, no
squeals, no problems. My conclusion: You can sometimes swap the ATF despite
what the specs state, but if trouble occurs, try the right juice as a first
solution.

Older mantra also says to not mix brands or grades of ATF.

I seem to remember similar threads on the proper oil for a manual tranny,
then there is always real oil vs synthetic, multi vis vs single weight, not
to mention brand loyalty. Oh yeah, there was also platinum plugs. The
discussions are good. You get to see the multiple options. Examine the info,
then decide what you want to do. I don't think you can go wrong following
FoMoCo advice/instructions, though.

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:05:59 -0600
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - sqealing heater

It is possible to lube "sealed" motors, but not necessarily worth it. I used
to drill a small hole in each bearing cover on the general's blower motors
so that I could put in two drops of sewing machine oil on each bearing at
each engine oil change. I used comb teeth as dust covers. The blower motor
has to sit with the shaft running horizontally (parallel to the ground) for
this to even be considered. If you over oil it, you will ruin the motor. You
need to be able to easily remove the motor to drill your holes, so if this
the problem, I would put a new motor in. Lubing the old bearings may be
worthwhile if you are unable to find a replacement motor or need a temporary
fix to get by. BTW, if your blower motor mounts with the shaft vertically,
the lower bearing almost always goes bad first.

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:16:03 EST
From: SHill48337aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)

In a message dated 12/23/99 9:30:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
doom460yahoo.com writes:

<<
The line was still attatched. Do you have any idea
what a new modulator costs?
>>
Around $20.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:34:16 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer strat.net>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Dexron vs Ford ATF

Back when I had no money, (teenager) I developed a bottom seal leak,
discovered the sector shaft was worn, priced a new one, and grew up
quickly.
I successfully used #10 hydraulic oil, then switched to # 12-thicker. Both
worked very well, until a truck came into the junkyard that had a good
steering box on it. Switched it and it is still running satisfactory.
meyerstrat.net
The Owner's Manual clearly states that the transmission is a C6 and should
have Dexron ATF. As wish stated, even the late model FoMoCos call for Ford
ATF in the power steering system. However, when I replaced the PS pump
about 2 years ago on my pickup, I used Dexron III. No leaks, no squeals, no
problems. My conclusion: You can sometimes swap the ATF despite what the
specs state, but if trouble occurs, try the right juice as a first
solution.


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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:38:08 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 78' Three speed on 87' engine

Don't think you will have any trouble. The major classes of engine families
have been standard for many years. Currently there are only 3 you need to
worry about before 96 when they started with the Romeo engines, FE, small
block, big block (don't have a clue about the little ones like the 4
bangers). If you stick with the same type of engine the tranny will fit
with only one exception I can think of and that was with certain 289's at
some point.

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> I was wondering if anyone would know if a 78' ford 3 speed on
> the column tranny could
> be bolted to an 87' fuel injected engine? I am planning on
> swapping a fuel injected
> inline six into my 78'.
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:55:46 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Toys, continued :-)

Well, I went home with visions of jumping right into my coveralls and
hitting the black pipe for the heater only to find my dejected wife sitting
at the table, head in hands, mopeing. Seems her computer had been beeping
at her for about 3 hours and nothing she could do would fix it. I heard the
beep and immediately thought.......keyboard :-( Sure enough after finally
finding another ps2 keyboard around the house and a few calls to HP it was
determined to be the keyboard and they are sending me a new
one......meanwhile......

Finally went to the barn and had to make a Lowe's run for some measured pipe
and swung by Staples to pickup a cheap, "get us by" keyboard and found a
pretty decent one for only $25. Boy have those come down! :-) Anyway the
pipe is all done and waiting for the gas man to come hook me up and help me
light this bad boy tonight. Can't concentrate here at work thinking about
the joy I will have in seeing my barn light u............er, heater light up
and barn warm up :-)

I'll be on line at work during the holiday week, first 4 days so I can be
contacted there if anyone happens to be stuck at work :-) I'm on the core
and PF lists at home too. Got two, 3 day weekends which is still 6 days to
get something done out there (I hope) :-)

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:12:54 EST
From: SHill48337aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - sqealing heater

In a message dated 12/23/99 10:59:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jlagroneford-trucks.com writes:

<< I used
to drill a small hole in each bearing cover on the general's blower motors
so that I could put in two drops of sewing machine oil on each bearing at
each engine oil change. >>

Speaking as one who has done the same, and it was not because I could not
find a new one, it was because I just plain did not have the money for one.
Additionally, it took me a while to learn this but the bearings on your
furnace fan motor and those in your vehicle (porous bronze bushing type) will
rapidly self destruct if you use a detergent oil, sewing machine oil is
great. Tried detergent oil in both with identical results, then I read up on
the bearings. DO NOT use detergent oil. And the other thing, as pointed
out, one drop of oil goes a long long way.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:19:37 PST
From: "Mark Mcknight" hotmail.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"

Hey guys!
I was working on my truck the other night, and I thought about something...
the ford 9" differential, (which I have on my 78' I think) and the 8.8 that
I hvae on the 85?? I was wondering how you could tell the difference from
the axles? If I'm right, the 9" has the front inspection plate that pulls
off and out with the drive shaft, and the 8.8 has the rear... what is the
85' most likely equipped with? any info would be great because I want to buy
a posi locker for the 9" and I just don't know =)

- -Mark-
85' Ford F-150 Explorer, Posi, 302.
78' Ford F-100 Tubbed, built 302
7x' Ford F-250 beat to sh*t 4x4 390
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:25:30 -0500
From: am14daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Holidays

I'm off until the 3rd of Jan 2K. Merry Christmas to all and Prosperous New
Year.


I've un**s*bscribed till then.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:01:08 CST
From: "Luke Phillips" hotmail.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6

I am going to start rebuilding my 240 I6. I also want to change my
transmission.It has a 3 speed manual now,I want to change it to an
automatic.My question is this,Will a C4 or C6 bolt up to the 240
block? I have been told that they will, I just want some more feedback.
Thanks,
Luke
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:07:49 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"

Don't know what? You are correct in your understanding so what's the
question about the 9" "Posi" (boy that one's going to get you in trouble
:-))

- --
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
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> because I want to buy
> a posi locker for the 9" and I just don't know =)
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:32:18 -0800
From: "A Bernal" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6

Hello all, I've got a question.
I have a '76 f-100 4x4 390cid.
Would my rear differential be a positive traction or not?

It is using headers and 1 of the tubes has a little crack. I would like to
know where can I find headers?
Yes, I am new to the ford f-series world.
I like it!

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:38:15 -0800
From: "Chuck White" jps.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Rough running when its cold and damp

To Tom H- so far the choke has always performed correctly although the few
times it has run rough as described I haven't whipped off the air cleaner to
check at that time. I do not have a warm air doohickey as I am running
headers and an aftermarket air cleaner. And to Lisa and Envy I always set
up the choke before turning the key which is why I think more along the
lines of moisture in the distributor cap. Keep giving me ideas people and
we shall overcome!!!

Thanks all, Chuck

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:20:03 -0800
From: "S.Harkema" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - LH threads

>Our Church had a '82 E350 bus(dual rear wheels) that had left handed
>threads on the left side, both front and rear.

My 84 f-250 has LH threads on the left rear only

>I have a '76 Farm truck (F350 w/ dual rear wheels) with a 12' flatbed on it and it has standard threads on all lugs.

We have a 77 F-350 dump at work that has LH on both front and rear on
the left side

>I really don't know if FOMOCO knows for sure if there was ever a >"standard"or not for left handed threads,

There does not seem to be any ryme or reason to it does there


>.. a web site where I can get some info on the Mallory dual point I >have in the truck. Does Mallory have their own web site? Thanks >people!

I have done alot of surfin' looking for Mallory with no luck.
Try this number 775 882 6600.(Carson City NV)

>> Speaking of which, anyone know a source for a cheap, self priming,
> drill run pump I could use to transfer gas from one tank to another?
> Won't the sparks from the drill motor......BOOM!!!!!

A guy at work was mixing laquer paint with a electric drill one day.
We all found out what he looked like with out hair beard or eyebrows.
A air drill works fine tho......

Happy Holidays to all.....
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:08:08 -0800
From: "A Bernal" hotmail.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford f-100 1976 questions

> Hello all, I've got a question.
> I have a '76 f-100 4x4 390cid.
> Would my rear differential be a positive traction or not?
>
> It is using headers and 1 of the tubes has a little crack. I would like to
> know where can I find headers?
> Yes, I am new to the ford f-series world.

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:24:00 PST
From: "Mark Mcknight" hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"

haha.. sorry.. *lol me* no I mean, I'd like to put a posi locker in the 9"
but I just don't know if its really a 9"... *duh me * I was wonderin' if
sum1 could tell me the difference in differentials, =) *duhme again*
Thanks
- -mark-
*duhme* haha


>From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
>Reply-To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
>To: "'61-79-listford-trucks.com'" <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
>Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:07:49 -0500
>
>Don't know what? You are correct in your understanding so what's the
>question about the 9" "Posi" (boy that one's going to get you in trouble
>:-))
>
>--
>Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
>--
>
> > because I want to buy
> > a posi locker for the 9" and I just don't know =)
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:13:14 -0800
From: "Jeff Norville" sosinet.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Transmission hum, NP435

Howdy and Merry Xmas:

I have been delaying some transmission work on my 79 Bronco 4spd, but have
the motivation again - long story but involves clutch replacement error due
to Napa misship - if the tranny shop has the thing out anyhow they can put
the new clutch in (if Napa eventually gets it right) (usually there's so on
it...)!

On with the show; problem manifests in a hum/buzz audible when the clutch is
disengaged. Sitting in neutral in the driveway, especially warming up, I
get the noise to go away when I depress the clutch pedal. It kind of drops
off, like listening to a table saw slow after turning it off (not THAT loud
though yet).

I can also feel a little buzz in the foot when I depress the pedal - smooths
when the pedal hits the carpet.

Diagnosis so far:
1. Could be bent spline on the clutch - didn't show when I just had it
off though...
2. Probably bearing replacement time for input shaft bearings on the
tranny.

Anything to add? Didn't want to pull the tranny when motor was out -
already maxed out my shade-tree skills and didn't have room on the bench for
gears all over the place - taking this one to the pros. Waste of money?

Again, 1979 Bronco, 4 spd (NP435), 400 from 351M, starting break-in later
this afternoon... :-) (Nervous. Wish her luck.)

Jeff
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:38:33 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"

Mark, The eight inch rear end has a cover on the back side. The nine
inch doesn't. On an eight inch, the guts come out the rear. A nine
incher removes from the front.
Posi??? What's that? I'll give it to you easy-a posi was something that
GM used.

Jason Kendrick


Mark Mcknight wrote:

> the ford 9" differential, (which I have on my 78' I think) and the 8.8 that
> I hvae on the 85?? I was wondering how you could tell the difference > If I'm right, the 9" has the front inspection plate that pulls
> off and out with the drive shaft, and the 8.8 has the rear..
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:17:55 PST
From: "Mark Mcknight" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"

Well hehe.. you know what I mean.. I'm not sure what ford calls it.. I guess
a Positive locked differentail =) Grrr... she keeps loosing traction!
hehe..


> Posi??? What's that? I'll give it to you easy-a posi was something that
>GM used.

But thanks for the info eh.. I might put the 9" in the 85? just wondering
if that would be worth the time?
Thanks
- -Mk-

85' Ford F-150
78' Ford F-100
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:02:12 -0700
From: "Michael White" csolutions.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carb Choice for 79 F250 with 400 CID

Will a Holley carb #6947 which was designed for a 75 Ford with 390 be
legal on a 79 F250 with a 400?

Can anybody provide information about a Holley carb number....

E5TE 9510 2B
LIST 50264-1
2695


Thanks and merry Xmas to all
Danger
dangercsolutions.net


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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:17:40 -0800 (PST)
From: canzusseanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - rough running on cold mornings

At 08:17 AM 23:12:99 -0500, Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:
>I just plugged Mallory into the Metacrawler and found a couple of
>distributors but couldn't find the Mallory site. They may not even have
>one.

Try www.sema.org/hyperlinks

This is a bookmark all you guys/gals should have.....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:17:44 -0800 (PST)
From: canzusseanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 78' Three speed on 87' engine

At 11:38 AM 23:12:99 -0500, Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:
>Don't think you will have any trouble. The major classes of engine families
>have been standard for many years. Currently there are only 3 you need to
>worry about before 96 when they started with the Romeo engines, FE, small
>block, big block (don't have a clue about the little ones like the 4
>bangers). If you stick with the same type of engine the tranny will fit
>with only one exception I can think of and that was with certain 289's at
>some point.

You are correct sir, 289's came in two flavours, 5 bolt and 6 bolt bellhousing
patterns. 221's and 260's came in one flavour, 5 bolt. I think.....


Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:17:47 -0800 (PST)
From: canzusseanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6

At 10:32 AM 23:12:99 -0800, A Bernal wrote:
>Hello all, I've got a question.
>I have a '76 f-100 4x4 390cid.
>Would my rear differential be a positive traction or not?
>
>It is using headers and 1 of the tubes has a little crack. I would like to
>know where can I find headers?
>Yes, I am new to the ford f-series world.
>I like it!

Jegs, www.jegs.com, ceramic coated headers for $205.99 for
2WD and $229.99 for 4WD....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:42:04 EST
From: JJJJJGRANTaol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford FE Oiling, was Ford Exhaust Ports

i saw one of them cut the filters and put them in the oil supply hole under
the rocker shaft.

j grant
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:04:54 EST
From: NTesla333aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250

I am buying a rear disk set for my truck. I want better stopping power.
Should i buy a porportioning valve to balance front and rear? I purchased a
line lock to get a parking brake. Your help is appreciated.

Robert Bowen
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:41:50 -0800
From: Carver ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Anti Seize

In the world of anti-seize there are two types.
The copper based and the lead based. I have
saved for proper haz waste disposal the lead based
one I used to use, and am now using a copper based
one. Almost impossible to tell, but the cheaper
ones are generally lead based. If you haven't used
this stuff, a couple of tips. You will get it onto
your skin not matter how cautious you are, thus
my change from lead. Lead gets through your skin
to your brain and makes you stupid, really, it
kills your brain cells.

I took an acid brush and poked it thru a hole in
a plastic film can. Added some anti-seize into
the can and now have an easy way to transport,
store, and apply the goo, with a minimal amount
of mess. I have another film cans with grease too.
Those acid brushes (also called flux brushes,
for soldering) make applying anti-seize to threads
an easy task.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab


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