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From: owner-61-79-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest) To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #470 Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Wednesday, December 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 470 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - RE:Salvage Yards in Winter FTE 61-79 - 62 4x4 correction Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 and ATSG, what are these trannys? Re: FTE 61-79 - Porting 460 heads? Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Gasket Matching FTE 61-79 - Gear swaps Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: weird sights FTE 61-79 - And the Millenium winner is... FTE 61-79 - On the subject of lug nuts .... FTE 61-79 - Re: The cold and all ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:39:57 -0500 From: "james burnette" Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:Salvage Yards in Winter > We Houstonians *really* hate going out when its below 40. 8-) > >Those of us from farther north really hate going when its 40 below. :) I know what you mean. Down here in Florida I had to put on a long sleeve shirt the other day :-)) Sorry, I couldn't resist! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:46:41 -0800 From: "S.Harkema" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 62 4x4 correction >The tailgate is missing, and window cranks need replaced ect... >Tailgate was the same from 57 to 63 so should not be impossible to >find. Should have said Fleetside (non-Unibody) available from 57-66 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:18:38 EST From: SHill48337 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 and ATSG, what are these trannys? In a message dated 12/21/99 11:04:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, bbeyer pacifier.com writes: << Couple of things. ATX in a SHO? The ATX was in Tempos and Escorts, I did enough overhaul quotes out of the Chiltons to know for sure. I really doubt it was used behind the Yamaha 6 cyl they put in the first SHOs but I wasn't working at the dealer than so I don't know for sure. I guess they could have installed a beefed up version. Second, T-Bird using a Taurus/Sable type tranny? Since the Taurus/Sable is FWD and the T-Bird is RWD I have a hard time with this. >> I am sure I have seen a SHO with a beefed up ATX at a Drag race thought they came with them, sorry. As for the T-Bird, I stated before I did not know but suspected it might be a taurus type. I agree you make a good point about the T-Bird being rear wheel drive, lost grasp on reality. But, if Gray wants to learn about the 4R70W then go to Baumann Engineering Peformance Guide For Ford Automatic Transmissions at www.baumannengineering.com/pguide.htm. Good write up and some history. Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:50:45 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Porting 460 heads? it will help, say from 3000 rpm and up, if you are wanting to make power in that rpm range, i would suggest finding an early set of heads, the 69-72 are the best ones. but if you just want to pep yours up a little i would just smooth out the ugly bumps in the port, a majority of exhaust flow is in the top of the port, so this is where your time should be spent. just below the valve seat, there is a sharp edge that needs contouring, this is referred to as the valve pocket. a word of caution: being a little experienced in porting heads i thought any one can do it if they have the time and patience. a friend of mine wanted his C9VE heads ported on the exhaust side, he wanted me to show him how so he could do it, so i ported one of the ports to show him how the others should look. about a week later he called wanting me to come and do the final prting and polishing, said he couldn't get it as smooth as i did. when i saw them i couldn't believe it, he gouged the ports up so bad, i belive they were more contoured before he started, so i started straightening up his mess, it didn't take but just a second for a hole to appear and yep, it was a water hole. i have ported many 429 and 460 heads, even opened some up to cj size ports without any problems. i don't know if it was an air pocket that we got into or if the 69 model heads are just thinner castings, this was the first 69 heads i had worked on. SO BE CAREFUL. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:03:31 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Gasket Matching chevy's are definetly better flowing on the exhaust side, generaly fords flow excellent on the intake side,but stink severly on exhaust flow and you get more going in than going out. this is why most good camshafts for a ford are split duration/lift having more lift on the exhaust side. 302's, 351w, 429 & 460 have the worst exhaust ports of them all. some of the early 289's have good ex port designs. and most FE's have good exhaust ports. and the 351c,m and 400 type heads have a small bump in the roof of the port, but nothing like the others. you can add bigger cams, bigger intakes and carbs, but on a ford you are not getting the full benefit unless you port the heads. just some insight. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:09:19 -0800 From: "Jerry Godsey" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gear swaps I am looking to replace the gears in my Econoline's read end. As near as I can tell, they are 4:11's. What can I change them to in order to get higher top end? Also, after seriously considering a 302 or 289 swap, I am going to stick with the 170 c.i. six. Clifford Performance says that with their 2bbl adapter, and a header with single exhaust, you can get 25% more horsepower at the rear wheel. If I add one of their cams, it goes to 40%. I am just wondering if changing the gearing will make it better. I'm not trying to hot rod the truck, I just want to be able to cruise on the freeway! Thanks in advance. Blessings, Jerry Godsey www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/4275 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:14:35 -0800 From: "Jerry Godsey" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: weird sights Mark Twain said, "It's impossible to make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious." - ----- Original Message ----- From: William S. Hart To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 7:53 AM Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: weird sights > > Maybe with the new > > alloys and such that are used now it might be a good idea again? > > I've often thought that ... but working in the computer industry at the > university I get to see the general level of mentality of the "typical user" > ... trust me left hand threads are a bad idea from the support standpoint > ... > > I'll sign this one > Frustrated Admin > wish > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:25:41 -0800 From: "Pat" Subject: FTE 61-79 - And the Millenium winner is... Well done Sir Gary, You may now lay claim to the most gruesome List story of the past 1000 years (Maybe a bit less) You are right tho, this neat hobby of Ford Trucks is great, but can be harmful in a really big way if we forget to observe certain safety rules. Chemical hazard is one of them. The really neat varnish replacement called Cetol says not to use it except in a well ventilated environment, but then so does everything else. Well let me tell you, breathe a bunch of the fumes and it can do you in. I speak from (hack, cough) experience. Patsplace 78 F150 77F250 4x4 79 F250 4x4 Dream Truck under way. > BTW, gruesome stories don't excite me much.....YUK! My ex-brother in law > fell into a chemical tank on an oil barge and was burned very badly. The > fumes made him pass out so that he fell into the liquid he was cleaning up > and it got inside him so that bones and muscle and organs were affected and > he nearly died. He did not follow the rules and paid the ice....:-( Very > sad really :-( > > - -- > Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > 78 Bronco Loving, Gary > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 > - Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:57:34 -0500 From: "Serian" Subject: FTE 61-79 - On the subject of lug nuts .... Gary said: > which brings us back to the old "no oil or grease" theory which > is now also history because they found out that you can not > properly torque the nut to the desired "tension" without lube :-) ... > How often have you attempted to remove an old nut only to > break the lug by applying more and more effort until something > gave? This principle works in the opposit direction as well :-) I always lube the lug nuts and lug studs when I change a tire, and NEVER let those guys at the tire place do the change ... they can mount the tire on the rim, but I'll put my own tire/rim complete assembly on the cars and trucks, thank you ... that way, I either know it is done right, or I know who to blame when it screws up. I have never had a problem with the lug nuts coming loose because of this, and I highly recommend the procedure, since you *will* want to take those lug nuts off again at some point, and the grease or oil you use to lube the threads will help keep the rust from developing and making the job harder than it should be. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:21:00 -0800 From: "Pat" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: The cold and all Slightly crazy is OK but when it's 65-70 below 0, gaoline, diesel and propane all freeze, axles crystalize and will snap and you have about 10 minutes to get a fire going or your hands don't work. Take your battery in the house at night and build a fire under the oil pan in the morning (Tobacco can with a few rags and a bit of diesel) Parts hunting in the Yukon when I was there was NOT a mid winter hobby. I've been cold and I've been warm. Warm is better. Patsplace 78 150 77 250 4X4 79 240 4X4 Dream Truck under construction > Bob >> > You floridians or what ever they call ya :) never have fun until you have to > plug in your car, and just when you think the battery isnt gonna crank > anymore the engine fires, now thats fun!!!!!! > Travis > from > the great white north or iowa as some say == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list-digest V3 #470 ******************************** +----- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 though 1979 Trucks And Vans -----+ | Send posts to 61-79-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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