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fordtrucks61-79-digest Wednesday, February 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 069



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In this issue:

Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes [james oxley ]
Re: Torque Wrenching bolts... [Barry Price ]
Re: DO THEY OR DON"T THEY [Barry Price ]
Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes [Don Grossman
Cam with a 2v? [Tyler Wilkins ]
Motor mounts [Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)]
DID THEY OR DID"T THEY [FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)]
Looking for 400 or 351C pistons [Tyler Wilkins ]
Re: DID THEY OR DID"T THEY ["Deacon" ]
352/390 Into '61 F-100 [Vogt Family ]
DID THEY OR DID"T THEY [FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)]
Re: Cam with a 2v? ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: A possible new truck and other replies [Tyler Wilkins
Re: 373 gears [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Y-Block Question [Jesus Cardoso ]
RE: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes [Sleddog ]
RE: Cam with a 2v? [Sleddog ]
Re: Steering wheels cracking [OldTrux aol.com]
Re: Steering wheels cracking Article [Keith Srb ]
Re: extra! extra! read all about it 1999 f-series uncovered [danadeb pacb]
Re: Slip Yoke.. [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 428 flywheel [BDIJXS aol.com]
Re: Y-Block Question [robineil juno.com]
Re: MAJOR HESITATION = MAJOR PAIN ["Dale and Donna Carmine"
Re:Hwaders [leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)]
Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes [Don Grossman
Carb size and V.E. software ["Harry Jennings" ]

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 17:22:08 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes

Sleddog wrote:
>
> can't say as to how it was done, but i have seen it done a few times. my
> buddy said he could tell me how to do it when i was talking about
> converting my f150 to 1 ton axles and wanted to still use my tires i had.
> i know he said i would have to cut and weld in new centers of the rims to
> get an 8 lug pattern, or buy custom wheels. but i do not know of any other
> specifics.
>
> sleddog
>

I just talked to the guy I bought my dana 60 rear, rear from. He said
it is possible on the front with the right wheel offset and caliper
grinding, but it is close. I have 15 X 8 wagon wheels in 8 lug pattern
for the rear right now. American racing makes them. I have brand new 38
inch super swampers which I really don't want to get rid of just yet. I
also have a set of 35's (15 inch) I want to use for street.

The guy said he has dana 60 fronts hanging around and I could bring up
one of my 15 X 8, 8 luggers to see if it fits (or could fit). Any other
info you find out, let me know. I have a bronco, so I am having the guy
weld on the radius arm pads to a leaf spring dana 60 front (cut off
spring pads). Steering supposedly kinda works/bolts up. I should just
convert to 8 lug on my dana 44, but the price for dana 44 stuff is 225$
and the dana 60 is 500$ (good deal for a dana 60 front, in my area).


Let me know what you find out??

OX

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:02:50 -0500
From: Barry Price
Subject: Re: Torque Wrenching bolts...

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:

> > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:03:33 -0600
> > From: "Dennis K. Austin"
> > Subject: Re: Torque Wrenching bolts...
>
> > I know we went over this... but will you guys with a manual for the
> > please tell me what numbers are required for the bolts on the
> > pressure plate, the bell housing to block, and if the 435 tranny to
> > bellhousing bolts need torque?
>

I don't have the info your looking for but I am about to install a 302 into
my 65 step side. It currently has a 300 I 6. Did you have to do anything
special with the motor mounts and if so what?

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:09:04 -0500
From: Barry Price
Subject: Re: DO THEY OR DON"T THEY

Based on the ford RED BOOK, Ford started making 4X4's in 1959 and have been
making them ever since.

RANDY D wrote:

> JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION DID FORD
> MAKE A 4X4 SWB IN 1967 TO 1972
> THANKS FOR ANY REPLY
>
> LOVE MY TRUCK RANDY
>
> 1970 SWB
> F100 2WD
> 351W
> 4 SPEED
> LOOKING FOR C6 AUTO
>
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 13:27:34 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes

james oxley wrote:
>
> Hey all
>
> Is there anyway possible to use 15" rims (8 lug) with 3/4 ton front
> brakes. Is there special backspacing/caliper grinding required or is it
> totally out of the question??
>
> Thanks

The Ford calipers are way to big to fit 15" wheels. I have a 78 front
end and I just have enough room for the wheel weights on 16.5's.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 17:24:17 -0600
From: Tyler Wilkins
Subject: Cam with a 2v?

First of all I have to admit i just deleted the last weeks worth of
messages. Ouch, I didn't want to do it, I've been out of town for the
last week and don't have time to read the 569 messages i just recieved.
So I just grinned and hoped I wouldn't kill myself for it. This list is
so informative I can't stand to miss a single message. I participate in
it when I can and I look forward to reading the messages every day. I'm
just putting my .02 in because I'm again trying to acknowledge the great
administration. Nice going Everyone! Including the fellow list members
who have made this great!

Ok, now for the Ford talk. As many of you know I have a '79 F-100 with
a 351M I have apart, which is being converted to a 400 soon. I have
decided not to make it an all out killer 400, instead I'm just going to
get it back together and over the next year or so build a 460 for it
that will probably go in in about feb. next year. But I do want to
finish the 351/400 swap just to rack up the knowledge points of having
done this. And since I already have some money into the motor and know
its a good motor I wouldn't mind making it 'decent' until the 460
happens. Ok heres the set-up. I have a 351M thats getting 400 crank
and pistons. I already have and have been using headers and glasspacks.
Its mated to a C-6 but that may change yet too. Other then that the
motor is basically a stock 2v. By time its back together it will be a
400 with a new high-po Melling oil pump, new moly rings, new rod
bearings, new main bearings, valve job, and possibly new timing chain.

My real question, Would a high-po cam make a diference in a set-up like
this with a 2v. I was going to go the whole 9-yards with the motor with
matched cam, 4v, new pistons, the whole works but I decided to hold out
and put all that into a 460 over a period of time. So I'm putiing the
400 back in with all the new stuff do you think a Edelbrock cam as
listed in the Summit catalog would make a difference with the 2v? Even
with the stock set-up? Or would it at least make it sound cool. I
wouldn't mind spilling the $118 for the cam if it would do a little to
tide me over. Since I have boughten everything for the motor already, I
don't mind spending a little more compared to what i was going to do
with the motor. So what do you guys think?

Tyler Wilkins
Milwaukee, WI

'79 F-100 4x2 (as mentioned above)
'73 F-250 4x4, 4-speed, 360, 33" BFG Mud's

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:41:29 -0500
From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
Subject: Motor mounts

I just pulled the 240 I6 out of my 69 and set the 302 onto the "cradle"
I guess that's what you call it they are the motor mounts that bolt to
the frame not the rubber pieces that bolt to the block anyway the motor
seems to sit about 3-4 inches forward of where it should. A list member
was nice enough to send me some digital pictures of his and they look
the same as what I've got . Are the 240 and 302 mounts the same or do I
need to find diffrent ones and how do they differ? What other mounts
will work other than 302? 351W/C?

Duke's
Fine 69
F-100
302

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:45:45 -0500
From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
Subject: DID THEY OR DID"T THEY

Ok but did they make a SWB 4X4 IN 67 TO 72
thanks

Love my truck RANDY

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 17:59:24 -0600
From: Tyler Wilkins
Subject: Looking for 400 or 351C pistons

I am still in need of my pistons and/or crank for my 351M to a 400
conversion, anyone got either of these two lying around they could part
with? If ya do let me know I'd apreciate it, I can't seem to find any
decent ones in the boneyards around here but I still have a few to check
out.Thanx!

Tyler Wilkins

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:00:36 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: DID THEY OR DID"T THEY

From: RANDY D
Ok but did they make a SWB 4X4 IN 67 TO 72
thanks
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I had a '70 Bronco. What is an SWB 4X4. I'm guessing short wheel base.
If that's the case, then yes they did.


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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 16:03:06 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: 352/390 Into '61 F-100

As some of you may know I have a '61 F-100 4x4. It has a 223 motor but
it doesn't have the power to get out of its own way. I would like to
put in a 352 or 390 but I don't really know what I'm doing. I have a
friend with a '67 F-100 4x4 and a 352 and it has a boxed frame between
the crossmembers before and after the motor. Is this necessary for
strength? Mine has a much larger front crossmember but I don't know if
it makes a difference. Also, since his is the only one of these I have
ever seen, I will probably have to fabricate some motor mounts...any
special tricks to this?

Also, I will most likely end up with an automatic transmission 390. How
is the best way to mate this to my T-98?

Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 19:14:15 -0500
From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
Subject: DID THEY OR DID"T THEY

SORRY if i am not explaning my self correct
what i want to know is did FORD make a
SWB 4X41967 TO 1972 F100 TRUCK ??
Thank you

RANDY

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:41:50 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: Cam with a 2v?

- ----------
> From: Tyler Wilkins
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Cam with a 2v?
> Date: Wednesday, February 04, 1998 3:24 PM



> Ok, now for the Ford talk. As many of you know I have a '79 F-100 with
> a 351M I have apart, which is being converted to a 400 soon. I have
> decided not to make it an all out killer 400, instead I'm just going to
> get it back together and over the next year or so build a 460 for it
> that will probably go in in about feb. next year. But I do want to
> finish the 351/400 swap just to rack up the knowledge points of having
> done this. And since I already have some money into the motor and know
> its a good motor I wouldn't mind making it 'decent' until the 460
> happens. Ok heres the set-up. I have a 351M thats getting 400 crank
> and pistons. I already have and have been using headers and glasspacks.
> Its mated to a C-6 but that may change yet too. Other then that the
> motor is basically a stock 2v. By time its back together it will be a
> 400 with a new high-po Melling oil pump, new moly rings, new rod
> bearings, new main bearings, valve job, and possibly new timing chain.
>
> My real question, Would a high-po cam make a diference in a set-up like
> this with a 2v. I was going to go the whole 9-yards with the motor with
> matched cam, 4v, new pistons, the whole works but I decided to hold out
> and put all that into a 460 over a period of time. So I'm putiing the
> 400 back in with all the new stuff do you think a Edelbrock cam as
> listed in the Summit catalog would make a difference with the 2v? Even
> with the stock set-up? Or would it at least make it sound cool. I
> wouldn't mind spilling the $118 for the cam if it would do a little to
> tide me over. Since I have boughten everything for the motor already, I
> don't mind spending a little more compared to what i was going to do
> with the motor. So what do you guys think?
>
> Tyler Wilkins
> Milwaukee, WI

I think that a good cam which helps make power off idle would still be a
good investment. Here's my thinking, your basic 2 bbl has more cfm than the
primaries in your basic 4 bbl right? The disadvantage of a 2 bbl is it runs
out of breath at high rpm/WOT. So if you put in a cam designed to make good
power down low where most street/trail trucks really need it then you
should still see a significant benefit from a mild cam upgrade. Besides
it'll sound cooler! Seriously you would also benefit from some "cleaning
up" of the combustion chambers by a good machine shop. Any comments from
other "listers"?

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:45:34 -0600
From: Tyler Wilkins
Subject: Re: A possible new truck and other replies

If I get it I'd like to sell the cab (No
> Rust) to some one that can use it for fairly cheap.

Any ideas on what you'd want for the cab?

I am assuming the whole truck is nice, not just the cab? You could go
either way with the price, start real cheap, I bought a '75 (if i
remember correctly, maybe '77?) camper special with 76,000 orig miles
that didn't run (needed fresh gas i got it started after having it home
10 min) for $65!! It all depends on the seller, I have also seen trucks
of that type for up to $1500! All I can say is feel the owner out a bit
and offer low!

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 16:58:26 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 373 gears

>Marko,do you know of any wrecking yards on the west coast that would
>have 373 or 370 gears for an 85 E150,9"rearend.My brother is looking for
>a set and he lives in Nanaimo and can't find any there and its a long
>way from Ontario to ship them if I find them here.Any help would be
>appreciated.Thanks-Bruce Hart
>
>+

Your bro should contact Cee Gee's on Mitchell Island. They always have a
good selection and are Ford parts only.

Number is 321-0888.

I will also ask some of my friends. Let you know Monday.



Marko

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:31:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Jesus Cardoso
Subject: Y-Block Question

HoWdY!

Let me being by saying thank you to everyone that has help
me in locating the tube that I need. I still have not found it but thank
you!
I have a question for all the Y-Block wise ones.
Again I am looking for the tube that connects from the rocker arm
assembly to the lifter valley. (I have a 63 F100 with a 292)
After talking to the owner of the machine shop that rebuilt my
engine he told me that the 292 only has one tube delivering oil to the
lifter valley. Other sources have told me that they have a tube on each
of the heads. Is the guy at the machine shop just covering is butt or is
he right?

Thanks for your assistance.

Dazed and Confused,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy
Graduate Research Assistant (Power System Automation Lab)
Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-3128
w: 409-845-4623, h: 409-775-0737, fax: 845-6259
Personal Address: P.O. Box 2214, College Station, TX 77841-2214
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:46:18 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes

tell me more of this conversion as you do it. i may be doing in the
future. in my area for a dana 60 front that is a great deal! i have seen
junk ones go for that much. i know a guy who did it, but he doesn't like
it. he ended up cutting the axle tubes and rewelding them. i wasn't going
to do that. i was thinking custom radius arms holding the axle, but not a
rigid connection, and then using a 3rd link to prevent axle twist.

sleddog

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From: james oxley[SMTP:luxjo thecore.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 1998 8:22 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes

Sleddog wrote:
>
> can't say as to how it was done, but i have seen it done a few times. my
> buddy said he could tell me how to do it when i was talking about
> converting my f150 to 1 ton axles and wanted to still use my tires i had.
> i know he said i would have to cut and weld in new centers of the rims
to
> get an 8 lug pattern, or buy custom wheels. but i do not know of any
other
> specifics.
>
> sleddog
>

I just talked to the guy I bought my dana 60 rear, rear from. He said
it is possible on the front with the right wheel offset and caliper
grinding, but it is close. I have 15 X 8 wagon wheels in 8 lug pattern
for the rear right now. American racing makes them. I have brand new 38
inch super swampers which I really don't want to get rid of just yet. I
also have a set of 35's (15 inch) I want to use for street.

The guy said he has dana 60 fronts hanging around and I could bring up
one of my 15 X 8, 8 luggers to see if it fits (or could fit). Any other
info you find out, let me know. I have a bronco, so I am having the guy
weld on the radius arm pads to a leaf spring dana 60 front (cut off
spring pads). Steering supposedly kinda works/bolts up. I should just
convert to 8 lug on my dana 44, but the price for dana 44 stuff is 225$
and the dana 60 is 500$ (good deal for a dana 60 front, in my area).


Let me know what you find out??

OX






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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:53:48 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Cam with a 2v?

yes, it will do something. but, there is always a but, you just won't get
out of the cam what a 4v would. a good rv cam most likely would run well
until 4000 rpm or so where i think it may start starving. but, i never
tried it and most likely never will. just felt like talking.

sleddog

- ----------
From: Tyler Wilkins[SMTP:wicowboy execpc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 1998 6:24 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Cam with a 2v?
- --------snipped---------
Ok, now for the Ford talk. As many of you know I have a '79 F-100 with
a 351M I have apart, which is being converted to a 400 soon. I have
decided not to make it an all out killer 400, instead I'm just going to
get it back together and over the next year or so build a 460 for it
that will probably go in in about feb. next year. But I do want to
finish the 351/400 swap just to rack up the knowledge points of having
done this. And since I already have some money into the motor and know
its a good motor I wouldn't mind making it 'decent' until the 460
happens. Ok heres the set-up. I have a 351M thats getting 400 crank
and pistons. I already have and have been using headers and glasspacks.
Its mated to a C-6 but that may change yet too. Other then that the
motor is basically a stock 2v. By time its back together it will be a
400 with a new high-po Melling oil pump, new moly rings, new rod
bearings, new main bearings, valve job, and possibly new timing chain.

My real question, Would a high-po cam make a diference in a set-up like
this with a 2v. I was going to go the whole 9-yards with the motor with
matched cam, 4v, new pistons, the whole works but I decided to hold out
and put all that into a 460 over a period of time. So I'm putiing the
400 back in with all the new stuff do you think a Edelbrock cam as
listed in the Summit catalog would make a difference with the 2v? Even
with the stock set-up? Or would it at least make it sound cool. I
wouldn't mind spilling the $118 for the cam if it would do a little to
tide me over. Since I have boughten everything for the motor already, I
don't mind spending a little more compared to what i was going to do
with the motor. So what do you guys think?

Tyler Wilkins
Milwaukee, WI

'79 F-100 4x2 (as mentioned above)
'73 F-250 4x4, 4-speed, 360, 33" BFG Mud's






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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:59:23 EST
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: Steering wheels cracking

In a message dated 98-02-03 23:14:40 EST, you write:

> I was thinking of useing body filler
> or something similar to fill the cracks, and then painting over that.
What I did was clean out the cracks (undercut them) and fill with epoxy. Sand
and paint to match the interior .
worked great!

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:34:57 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: Steering wheels cracking Article

I found an article in the June 1997 Issue of Custom Classic Trucks that
shows how their repaired and repainted a C***y Steering wheel.

If anyone would like to see the article, email my privately at
Herbie netvalue.net. I will scan the article and email it back to you in
the next few days.

Later


At 08:59 PM 2/4/98 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-02-03 23:14:40 EST, you write:
>
>> I was thinking of useing body filler
>> or something similar to fill the cracks, and then painting over that.
> What I did was clean out the cracks (undercut them) and fill with epoxy.
Sand
>and paint to match the interior .
>worked great!
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>

Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie/
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:32:51 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: extra! extra! read all about it 1999 f-series uncovered

Hay! what about the 67-72s don't leave us out of the beauty contest!!!

Dana

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:47:24 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Slip Yoke..

Ok now I an really confused!


My C6 trans ( don't know year 68 maybe ) has a bolt on yoke, a short drive shaft
with slip yoke and center bearing then long drive shaft.

Could it be that the short wheel base trucks have slip yoke in trans with one
piece drive shaft and long wheel base have bolt yoke with two piece drive shaft

Mine is the long wheel base model.

dana

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:59:00 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: Re: 428 flywheel

Azie,

Thanks for the tip on balancing. I found the Mustang on-line classifieds, and
there are quite a few CJ parts if anyone is interested.....

I just called a local balancing shop and I asked him if he knew anything about
big block Fords, and he said "more than I want to". I told him about my
flywheel problem, and he said to just bring him my 428 crank, my 390 flywheel
(the 390 flywheels are bigger and heavier than the 360's by the way), and
he'll add the counter balance to the flywheel and then balance the whole
assembly for $150. He said this would work as long as I didn't have the 1UA
crank (or U1A, can't remember the order here), but mine appears to be the 1U
(or U1), meaning regular 428.

Seems like the easiest way to go!

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 19:03:33 -0800
From: robineil juno.com
Subject: Re: Y-Block Question

Jesus,

It's me again (Neil). I wasn't able to call my friend today concerning
the tubes but will for sure tomorrow. In answer to this question, there
is one on each head. It would seem a little strange if there was only
one needed. The reason for the tubes is that there is not sufficient oil
ports in the heads to get the oil to the rockers, therefore, the tubes
provide the needed oil to lubricate the valve springs, rockers and
pushrods. My engine has the tube on both heads. When I rebuilt my
engine the first time, I made the mistake of placing the tube on
backwards on one of the heads. Needless to say, I ended up buying a new
rocker arm and two rockers because they froze up due to the lack of oil.
If you are missing the one, I would be very careful driving and don't
drive very far or for very long. Sounds like the guy at the machine shop
is trying to cover his butt, unless it was missing in the first place.

Neil G. von Koehe

On Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:31:16 -0600 (CST) Jesus Cardoso
writes:
>HoWdY!
>
>Let me being by saying thank you to everyone that has help
>me in locating the tube that I need. I still have not found it but
>thank
>you!
>I have a question for all the Y-Block wise ones.
>Again I am looking for the tube that connects from the rocker
>arm
>assembly to the lifter valley. (I have a 63 F100 with a 292)
>After talking to the owner of the machine shop that rebuilt my
>engine he told me that the 292 only has one tube delivering oil to the
>lifter valley. Other sources have told me that they have a tube on
>each
>of the heads. Is the guy at the machine shop just covering is butt or
>is
>he right?
>
>Thanks for your assistance.
>
>Dazed and Confused,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy
>Graduate Research Assistant (Power System Automation Lab)
>
>Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
>College Station, TX 77843-3128
>w: 409-845-4623, h: 409-775-0737, fax: 845-6259
>Personal Address: P.O. Box 2214, College Station, TX
>77841-2214
>e-mail: cardoso ee.tamu.edu, url: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ee.tamu.edu/~cardoso
>
>

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:09:43 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: MAJOR HESITATION = MAJOR PAIN

Sean,

Last summer I rebuilt the 2150 carb on my '79 351M. I set the idle mixture
screws as directed by the rebuild kit and then set them to get the "lean -
best idle" after I got the truck running again. I also had a major
hesitation off-idle. I drove it this way for a few months and continued to
play with the accelerator pump with no success in making the hesitation go
away. By simply trying different things until something worked I found that
by enriching the idle mixture the hesitation went away. I'm now driving the
truck with the mixture screws backed out about 5 1/2 turns. That's more
than twice as far out as where they are "supposed" to be, but that is where
the truck runs good. Give it a try and see what happens, if it doesn't work
for you it's easy to put them back where they are now. Good luck and
welcome to the list!

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M
York, Nebraska

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:59:16 -0800
From: leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)
Subject: Re:Hwaders

Hey Jeff do you know where I might come by a set of these headers. I have
a set on my "74" that I bought about 10 yrs. ago and you right the
starter can be had without taking them loose. My problem is the place
where I bought them can no longer get them.
Does anyone know if maybe they have a web. sight or if any major parts
stores carry them I.E. ( cyclone headers)
Thanks for the help Mark

>Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:41:39 EST
>From: BDIJXS aol.com
>Subject: Re:Headers
>
>I see somebody is looking for a different set of headers.....the
>Cyclones I
>use (69 f-100 4x4) come apart at the collector. The two front tubes on
>the
>passenger side slide out, meaning that you install the back portion of
>the
>header, slide in the front two tubes, and tighten everything up. No
>need to
>jack up the engine, since the front two tubes route in front of the
>engine
>support brackets. Also, they leave plenty of clearance for the starter
>since
>all four tubes are not jammed behind the motor mount....
>
>I don't know if the Cyclones for the 4x2's do the same thing or not,
>but its
>worth asking...
>
>Colorado Jeff
>
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 19:29:45 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes

james oxley wrote:
> The guy said he has dana 60 fronts hanging around and I could bring up
> one of my 15 X 8, 8 luggers to see if it fits (or could fit). Any other
> info you find out, let me know. I have a bronco, so I am having the guy
> weld on the radius arm pads to a leaf spring dana 60 front (cut off
> spring pads). Steering supposedly kinda works/bolts up. I should just
> convert to 8 lug on my dana 44, but the price for dana 44 stuff is 225$
> and the dana 60 is 500$ (good deal for a dana 60 front, in my area).
>
> Let me know what you find out??

I have been looking, on and off, for 2 years now for a reasonably priced
Dana 60 front and the only one I have found for a Ford was $1600 used no
less.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 19:31:05 PST
From: "Harry Jennings"
Subject: Carb size and V.E. software

>How many of us will be running 7k rpm? My 460 has a 600 on it and
>gets up to 90 pretty easily but is only running about 3k rpm and in
>second which is how I usually get to 90 it's only running about 4800
>- - 4900 rpm, 5k tops. Personally I don't want to go much faster than
>that on the highway.

Yes a 390 or 460 will work fine with a 600 CFM carb. However, you are
leaving out one thing. Unless you are running WOT at 3000 RPM then a 750
CFM carb is not flowing 750 CFM. But I do agree, RPM does play a factor.
I would rather have a carb a bit small that a bit big. But I gathered
that the person was looking for MAX HP (which was around 6000 RPM)!?

All I was trying to do is say what my program says and it says for max
power a 390 needs 810 CFM. Do with that what you want. Although, it
lists the HP and TQ throughout the RPM range and it also lists the V.E.
and CFM needed at each point. I guess I should have mentioned that. So,
with a good cam a Ford 390 could make over 300 HP at around 5000 RPM....


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