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fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, January 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 058



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In this issue:

Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc. [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc. [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
'73 rearend ["Philip Bohrer" ]
RE: New V-10, Diesel, msc. [Sleddog ]
RE: V10 [Sleddog ]
list email problems. [Sleddog ]
RE: '73 rearend [Sleddog ]
Rear springs [am14 chrysler.com]
FI [am14 chrysler.com]
Confession ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: Manual tranny for 351M [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: list email problems. [Keith Srb ]
Re: Feelings on fuel injection conversions ["Deacon" ]
Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc. [Gardner ]
73-79 Door Panels ["Michael Connor" ]
Dura-spark ????? [Brian ]
Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc. [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Feelings on fuel injection conversions ["Michael Redden"
Re: list email problems. [A66f100 aol.com]
Re: Ramblings [macavenue webtv.net (sharon dotson)]
RE: Ramblings ["Gillespie, John D." ]
Re: Duraspark II [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: '68 vs '74 390 [BADFORD4x4 aol.com]
Re: list email problems. [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Varsol ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: Dura-spark ????? [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Dura-spark ????? ["Deacon" ]
Re: Dura-spark ????? ["Donald R. Screen" ]
Spray-on bed liners [perryfarrell juno.com]

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:50:33 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc.

>ECampb5214 aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Thats more 10 ft. lbs. torque then dodge unsure bought the hp though.
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>Dodge V-10
>300hp
>450lbs torque!


Hey, is this really a "fordtrucks 61-79" topic?

I can't count past 8, and don't want to. My 410 makes 330 ponies and 444
pounds. No more Dewey Decimal Motors, no more D*dge Wipers!


marko

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:53:14 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc.

>ECampb5214 aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Thats more 10 ft. lbs. torque then dodge unsure bought the hp though.
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>
>Dodge V-10
>300hp
>450lbs torque!


Hey, is this really a "fordtrucks 61-79" topic?

I can't count past 8, and don't want to. My 410 makes 330 ponies and 444
pounds. No more Dewey Decimal Motors, no more D*dge Wipers!


marko


Oh yeah and all my clocks stopped at 11:59 pm on December 31, 1979. You
should see my record collection! ;-)

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:26:42 PST
From: "Philip Bohrer"
Subject: '73 rearend

I have a '73 F-150 w/ a mildly built 390 & C6. The problem is that the
previous owner must have towed a heavy load with it as my Differential
gearing is very low. At 65 MPH the engine is turning
2600 RPM. I have no idea what gear set is in it, but i plan on having
it regeared. My question is, what is the typical torque curve for this
engine and how many RPM should I drop at 65 MPH while still maintaining
good power and acceleration? Thanx, in advance.

______________________________________________________

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:22:33 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: New V-10, Diesel, msc.

Dodge V-10
300hp
450lbs torque!
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and, it has like 425 lbsft TQ at around 1500 rpm. that is just off idle.

sleddog

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:21:07 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: V10

pretty lame against the mopar v10. i hope it gets better than the 8-10 mpg i get in my mopar at least!

Here are the ratings 265hp at 4800rpm
410lbs.tq at 2800rpm
respectable numbers but one would expect more from a V-10!





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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:50:47 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: list email problems.

i have been getting many replies on the list, before i get the original
post. does anyone else have this problem? it really gets strange trying
to follow a thread this way. thanks.

sleddog

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:48:17 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: '73 rearend

one thing you should mention, what stall speed is the converter. higher
gears won't help a bit (actually hurt) if the converter is too steep.

but, the 460 has monster torque from idle up, unless it was built for
higher rpms. even when built for 6500 and beyond they usually have gobs of
low end torque, enough to pull 65 mph at 2000 rpms.

sleddog

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From: Philip Bohrer[SMTP:p_bohrer hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 4:26 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: '73 rearend

I have a '73 F-150 w/ a mildly built 390 & C6. The problem is that the
previous owner must have towed a heavy load with it as my Differential
gearing is very low. At 65 MPH the engine is turning
2600 RPM. I have no idea what gear set is in it, but i plan on having
it regeared. My question is, what is the typical torque curve for this
engine and how many RPM should I drop at 65 MPH while still maintaining
good power and acceleration? Thanx, in advance.

______________________________________________________






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:52:25 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Rear springs

John Wrote: >>Of course the best thing would be to put in a 3/4 ton
rear axle
and convert the front end over to 3/4 ton

Jphn, why don't you just get the springs from a 3/4 (F250) and install
in your F100 rather than the F150 springs. They will bolt in from most
any year below the '78. (I think '78 is when they went to the wider
spring.)

Azie

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:56:47 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FI

Steven writes: >>Ok, let me have some feedback on experiences or
feelings about aftermarket fuel injection conversions - most
specifically these wet throttle body kits like the holley pro-jection
series.

I've thought about exploring this possibility myself, but haven't yet.
I own a few FI cars and two FI trucks and I really like the way they
start and warm up in cool/cold weather. All FOMOCO's I've ever owned
that were carburated have been "cold collared". Even the ones I
currently have. If you decide to go this route, please post your
results and the total installation expense.

Azie

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:00:12 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Confession

Tommy O'Connor went to confession and said, "Forgive me father for I
have sinned."
"What have you done Tommy O'Connor?"
"I had sex with a girl."
"Who was it, Tommy?"
"I cannot tell you father, please forgive me for my sin."
"Was it Mary Margaret Sullivan?"
"No father, please forgive me for my sin but I cannot tell you who it
was."
"Was it Catherine Mary McKenzie?"
"No father, please forgive me for my sin."
"Well then it has to be, Sarah Martha O'Keefe."
"No father, please forgive me, I cannot tell you who it was."
"Okay, Tommy go say 5 Hail Mary's and 4 Our Fathers and you will be
abolished of your sin."
So Tommy walked out to the pews where his friend Joseph was waiting.
"What did ya get?" asked Joseph.
"Well I got 5 hail Mary's, 4 Our Fathers, and 3 good leads."


Mike

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:04:00 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: Manual tranny for 351M

At 01:52 PM 1/30/98 +0000, Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>>
>> That would be the NV-5600. HUGE case, much bigger than a 435.
>
>I was thinking I read about ford and NV but I thought it was a new
>transfer case......? Is the 5600 for BB's or medium trucks?
>

I saw an announcement in one of the magazines last summer about the
NV-5600, designed to work with "the next generation of diesels from Cummins
and Navistar" According to the guy I spoke with at New Venture, both Ford
and Dodge had signed up but GM was on the fence and unlikely to make a
decision for another year. It's designed for 500 lb-ft of inout torque as
I recall (got a tearsheet somewhere on it) and has a significantly bigger
case than the NV-4500 which was designed to replace the 435 without too
much redesign of the vehicle. It's got guts like a medium duty unit but
supposedly shifts much more easily and has a standard shift pattern. I
know for a fact that it's in the ISB Ram and I'm pretty sure it's in the
new F-350.



As a sidenote, New Venture gear registered nvg.com in June of 1993 but
still no www site. Four netblocks of address space registered, as well.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:18:14 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: list email problems.

I have the same problem about 25 percent of the time.



At 04:50 PM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote:

>i have been getting many replies on the list, before i get the original

>post. does anyone else have this problem? it really gets strange trying

>to follow a thread this way. thanks.

>

>sleddog

>

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Mesa, AZ

1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi
5-Speed.

1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.

1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long
Box, Style Side.

1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner,

Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.

My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"




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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:17:06 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Feelings on fuel injection conversions

From: Gary
>Some of the bronco guys have the Holley projection and like it but
>all seem to agree that the higher end version with the feed back
>system is the best. I don't know if that one allows for in-cab
>adjustment or not but I think it does. One member burned a pistion
>but not sure if it was the projection or not since his engine was old
>when he installed it.
>
>I'm entertaining this idea myself and have to debate the pros and
>cons of metering rod, spread bore vs/ injection. If I stick with
>carbs it will be Rochester or Carter AFB, not Holley for sure :-)
>This is primarily due to my desire to have an engine that won't bog
>on inclines or rough terrain and the hope that there really is a
>Santa...........I mean.....economy to be had in BB ford engines :-)

I have a friend that had a Holley Digital PRO-JECTION 4 900cfm on his
'86 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe powered with a Ford SVO 460 after months of
trying to set it up he trashed the idea and went with a Holley 950cfm
carburetor on a Victor jr. intake. He races it in Albuquerque, New Mexico
and Holley was the only 950 cfm on the market other wise he wouldn't have.
Holley Tech support from what Tony has told me and I've read, is a number
you can call to have some one laugh at you.
The Holley Digital PRO-JECTION 4 cost $1900 the 950cfm Holley $900.
Holley doesn't make a Street Legal Pro-Jection for Ford (it's advertised
Street Legal in the Chief catalog I'm looking at but I live in Ca. so to me
Street Legal is CARB approved Holley Street Performance products are not
CARB approved. if your state doesn't comply with CARB standards I hate you)
so for a Ford you would need the Pro-Jection 2 Barrel 670cfm for $920 or the
Pro-Jection 700cfm Analog $1500 Digital $1800. Just because I've read a lot
of complaints about Holley Pro-Jection doesn't mean they don't work, it may
be a lot of people don't know how to set them up. By $ alone I don't think
injection has enough benefits to justify it's cost.
I have seen friends set up Rochester and Carter AFB's that kick some
butt for less money than the cheapest injection system. What does a Q-jet go
for now? Under $300 right? My vote goes for the Q-jet!


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- -----Original Message-----
, 78 BBB
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Feelings on fuel injection conversions


>> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:10:37 -0600
>> From: Steven McCullough
>> Subject: Feelings on fuel injection conversions
>
>> Ok, let me have some feedback on experiences or feelings about
>> aftermarket fuel injection conversions - most specifically these wet
>>
>> One reason I ask is that my dad and brother have near identical
>> moterhomes (as far as size/weight) both with 460's - my dads is
>> carburated and my brothers has a holley pro-jection kit (we're not
>> sure if its the 670 CFM or 700 CFM) and my bothers runs circles
>> around my dads and gets better mileage. My brother likes the
>> ability to adjust the mixture whenever a little exter ummph is
>> needed and then lean it back out on the open road.
>
>
>
>
>Where's Murphy when
>you really need him??
>
>-- Gary --
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:46:37 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc.

marko maryniak wrote:
>
> >ECampb5214 aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Thats more 10 ft. lbs. torque then dodge unsure bought the hp though.
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> >
> >Dodge V-10
> >300hp
> >450lbs torque!
>
> Hey, is this really a "fordtrucks 61-79" topic?
>
> I can't count past 8, and don't want to. My 410 makes 330 ponies and 444
> pounds. No more Dewey Decimal Motors, no more D*dge Wipers!
>
> marko
>
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Sorry for the non Ford content...I was just giving the specs on the
engines that we are comparing! One which happens to be a Dod*e! To bad
ford don't build motors the way they used to! All this overhead cam
bullsh*t= no low end torque!

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:46:26 -0700
From: "Michael Connor"
Subject: 73-79 Door Panels

Gang,

I found a listing for a company that offers replacement door panels
for the 73-79 trucks and the 78-79 Broncs.

Coverlay Mfg.
4017 Hwy. 67 N.
San Angelo, Tx 76905
800-633-7090

Cheers,
Mike
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:22:48 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: Dura-spark ?????

Ok...Let me try one more time !

1st, I do have a complete wiring harness for the dura spark system that
includes the slide over type coil connection, the module, the wiring
harness and 2 pin connector for the power supply.
Now here's how I've connected them. (thanks to all your input)
Also let me point out that this system was taken off a thunderbird that
was running. I have connected the white wire to the "S" terminal of the
starter solenoid. The red wire to the "I" terminal of the solenoid. I
located the ballast resistor wire, By pulling the dash out and finding
the pink wire that reads resistor on it. I've run a wire from the fire
wall where this wire goes through, to the "+" side of the coil.
Next I've tried to start the motor...no luck...not even a back fire,
I've checked for fuel, I've pulled the distributor and spun it 180
degrees, and still nothing.I'm now heading to the parts store to get a
new battery charger, Since my son has mine and he's about 50 miles away.
New battery is just about gone.

Help!! Help !! Help !!I want to hear this thing run !! I've spent
about $3000.00 on this engine and I need to hear the noise !!

Brian

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:31:43 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: New V-10, Diesel, msc.

>Sorry for the non Ford content...I was just giving the specs on the
>engines that we are comparing! One which happens to be a Dod*e! To bad
>ford don't build motors the way they used to! All this overhead cam
>bullsh*t= no low end torque!


The only overhead cam engine what qualifies for this list is the 427 cammer.


marko

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:43:56 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Feelings on fuel injection conversions

A friend of mine just restored a '71 F-250 with a new 390. His dad told me
it cost around $1200. I'll remember to ask more about it.

Mike

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:40:21 EST
From: A66f100 aol.com
Subject: Re: list email problems.

I have had the same problem , but thought it was AOL's mail handling problems.
Mike B.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:05:33 -0500
From: macavenue webtv.net (sharon dotson)
Subject: Re: Ramblings

i have a 70 F100 2wd with 31: 10 50 15s on it
and i have no problem with clearance on front or rear any load hope
this helps some

thank you

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:23:48 -0500
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: Ramblings

-----Original Message-----
From:John Pajak [SMTP:jspajak rocketmail.com]
Sent:Friday, January 30, 1998 12:16 PM
To:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject:Ramblings



More questions: I have 30x9.50x15 tires on 15x7 wagon wheels.
It's
time for new back tires and I'm thinking about 31x10.50x15s.
But,
every once in a while I put a lot of weight (3000-4000 lbs)in
the bed
and the suspension has been known to sit on the snubbers. The
9.50s
clear the fenders but will the 10.50s? Anybody tried it? I
already
have installed 77 F150 springs which help a lot but I think I
need
something more. A guy here at work has air bag style helpers
which let
his '94 1/2 ton F150 tow a 5th wheel. Maybe I need something
like
those? Of course the best thing would be to put in a 3/4 ton
rear axle
and convert the front end over to 3/4 ton. Will the 8 lug front
rotors
fit on the 1/2 ton spindles? =20

John Pajak

I have 31x10.50x15s all the way around my F100 and I get some rub on =
the
inside of the rear tires from where the side of the bed walls when the
bed is fully loaded but that is because previous owner install a 9inch
rearend and =BE or 1ton springs I am not sure which? But like some else
already replied it does tend to get squirrelly in the rain and in
puddles.

John
66 F100 w/240-6, 82 LTD, 94 Ranger Splash

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:57:18 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Duraspark II

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 07:47:47 -0500
> > From: Brian
> > Subject: Re: Duraspark II
>
> > it does turn over. But I'm just not sure where to find the
> > connections for the module. There was know wiring for the sensors.
> > (oil & water) I installed mechanical guages so that took care of
> > that.
>
> All vehicles since the dawn of time.............Ok, maybe not but I'm
> sure the 64 has a start pin and run pin on the ignition switch. Go
> into the dash, find these pins and "try" to follow them throgh the
> fire wall. If you can't get through the fire wall with them then
> splice into them at a convenient location, soldering the joints you
> make, and run two distinctly colored wires (preferably red for run
> and white for start) out to the module area.




YES YES YES YES!!!!!!




Get an old "Dodge" or
> "ford" ballast resistor and hook it in series with the red wire to
> the module


NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There is NO, I REPEAT NO, reason to put a ballast resister in series with the
red POWER wire that POWERS the Duraspark II Module. The module is designed to
run on 12V NOT 6-8V. The only place that a ballast resister is needed is in
series with the + side of the coil AND that wire is tied directly to the
ignition switch "RUN" terminal.


LOOK at the schematic again!!!!!!!!



and since the starter works you don't need to worry about
> that part, just run the start pin wire to the white wire on the
> module and you're all set.


Dana

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:02:11 EST
From: BADFORD4x4 aol.com
Subject: Re: '68 vs '74 390

The car motor will work good in your truck. I put a 68 390 out of a fairlane
in my truck.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:11:40 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: list email problems.

Sleddog wrote:
>
> i have been getting many replies on the list, before i get the original
> post. does anyone else have this problem? it really gets strange trying
> to follow a thread this way. thanks.
>




!oot taht gnitteg neeb evah I ,seY











Dana
Yes I have been getting that too!

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:12:19 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Varsol

I always suspected that Deacon was a "flamer"............but that story was
way too literal! I'm glad you survived Deacon.

later,
dale c

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:29:26 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Dura-spark ?????

Brian wrote:
>
> Ok...Let me try one more time !
>
> 1st, I do have a complete wiring harness for the dura spark system that
> includes the slide over type coil connection, the module, the wiring
> harness and 2 pin connector for the power supply.
> Now here's how I've connected them. (thanks to all your input)
> Also let me point out that this system was taken off a thunderbird that
> was running. I have connected the white wire to the "S" terminal of the
> starter solenoid.


So far so GOOD!!!!



> The red wire to the "I" terminal of the solenoid.



Wrong!!! The red wire needs a 12V source like from the key switch "RUN" terminal
. The "I" terminal on the solenoid does not supply the correct power you need.


The "I" terminal from the starter solenoid should go to the coil "+" side also
this can be done in two ways.
1) run a wire from the "I" terminal on the solenoid directly to the coil "+"
terminal.

2) run a wire from the "I" terminal on the solenoid to the end of the resister
wire and splice it there with the wire that goes to the coil. ( NOTE: do not cut
the resister wire or try to solder it. (won't work) Crimp will work but it is
better to splice to the wires before or after it. )




> I
> located the ballast resistor wire, By pulling the dash out and finding
> the pink wire that reads resistor on it. I've run a wire from the fire
> wall where this wire goes through, to the "+" side of the coil.


Correct!!!!!!!!


> Next I've tried to start the motor...no luck...not even a back fire,
> I've checked for fuel, I've pulled the distributor and spun it 180
> degrees, and still nothing.I'm now heading to the parts store to get a
> new battery charger, Since my son has mine and he's about 50 miles away.
> New battery is just about gone.
>
> Help!! Help !! Help !! I want to hear this thing run !! I've spent
> about $3000.00 on this engine and I need to hear the noise !!


Dana

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:43:36 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Dura-spark ?????

>Help!! Help !! Help !! I want to hear this thing run !! I've spent
>about $3000.00 on this engine and I need to hear the noise !!

I just have one suggestion. Leave the white wire disconnected until you have
it running good. You can hook it up later if you want to. Every time you
crank it over the module will retard your timing and when you let go of the
key, timing returns to normal. Without having everything adjusted yet this
auto retard will drive you nuts. I've read that some people never got their
engines to run with the white wire hooked up.

Later!

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:49:33 -0600
From: "Donald R. Screen"
Subject: Re: Dura-spark ?????

You might take one more look at your spark plug wire installation.
Make sure the wires are connected in the proper order and on the correct
posts on the distributor. Since you pulled the distributor and changed
it's orientation did you also check to see if the rotor was pointing at
the number one plug wire at TDC? I just redid the mechanical advance
and put on a new ACCEL Super HEI coil on my Ch*vy and stuck it all back
together. The thing would barely turn over let alone start. I had the
correct firing sequence but was one post off on the dist cap when I
started with the number one wire. Chilton's shows the correct
orientation of the cap relative to the number one cylinder spark plug
wire on the first page of the engine rebuilding chapter. Well worth one
more check to see if all is hooked up right or there will be no start.
I had to jump my battery several times before I got mine finally right.
Hope this help...back to my lurking mode.

PS. You guys have graciously answered all of my questions...I have
smooth run out! My 1974 F100 is just about ready to fire up...looking
pretty good under the hood too. Got a video camera and capture card so
maybe this weekend I'll post some video or stills on my web site.
Will post it here if I get it done.
I also received the Dennis Carpenter catalog...well worth the $3 just as
a parts guide to see what is missing!
I was missing a hood lacing on my truck...top of the engine was getting
soaked every time it rained.
Didn't even know to look for a hood lacing anything...until I got the
catalog.


Brian wrote:
>
> Ok...Let me try one more time !
>
> 1st, I do have a complete wiring harness for the dura spark system that
> includes the slide over type coil connection, the module, the wiring
> harness and 2 pin connector for the power supply.
> Now here's how I've connected them. (thanks to all your input)
> Also let me point out that this system was taken off a thunderbird that
> was running. I have connected the white wire to the "S" terminal of the
> starter solenoid. The red wire to the "I" terminal of the solenoid. I
> located the ballast resistor wire, By pulling the dash out and finding
> the pink wire that reads resistor on it. I've run a wire from the fire
> wall where this wire goes through, to the "+" side of the coil.
> Next I've tried to start the motor...no luck...not even a back fire,
> I've checked for fuel, I've pulled the distributor and spun it 180
> degrees, and still nothing.I'm now heading to the parts store to get a
> new battery charger, Since my son has mine and he's about 50 miles away.
> New battery is just about gone.
>
> Help!! Help !! Help !! I want to hear this thing run !! I've spent
> about $3000.00 on this engine and I need to hear the noise !!
>
> Brian
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:52:47 -0500
From: perryfarrell juno.com
Subject: Spray-on bed liners

Has anyone had any experience with these spray-on bed liners? Supposedly,
they keep your bed from scratching up, and I think they're supposed to be
somewhat water-proof. I wanted to get rid of all the rust in my bed
(there's not too much) or maybe possibly even replace the whole bed....


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