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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, January 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 045



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In this issue:

460 Ex manifolds [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Hesitation, and thanks! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Pop & hesitation [am14 chrysler.com]
Handled! [John Pajak ]
Starvation [am14 chrysler.com]
Milestone [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Rear Bearings, cleaning solvents to use? ["Gary, 78 BBB"
Re: Rear Bearings ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Parts Warehouse [am14 chrysler.com]
Parts warehouse [am14 chrysler.com]
RE: Parts Warehouse ["Gillespie, John D." ]
Re: Parts Warehouse ["Deacon" ]
Torque Spec's on 289 ["Mike Fankhauser" ]
Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please [Keith Srb ]
question on 390 specs [shoman p3.net]
Re: ADMIN: MAJOR MILESTONE!! [marko ]
Re: question on 390 specs [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: MOPAR V10 [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: Rear Brakes Dana 60's [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please ["Gary, 78 BBB"
Re: 460 Ex manifolds ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
FE conversion ["Hogan, Tom" ]
Re: Torque Spec's on 289 [Mike Schwall ]
Just a couple of questions about my truck. [perryfarrell
RE: Just a couple of questions about my truck. ["Gillespie, John D."
Rear sump pan for FE 390. [John MacNamara ]
RE: 460 ex manifolds [Sleddog ]
RE: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please [Sleddog ]
The greatest deal in history -- besides buying alaska. [Sleddog

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:26:20 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: 460 Ex manifolds

What year truck are we talking about here?????I've done a '77 F250 4X4
and a '79 F350 4X4, and had to notch the frame on both.

>> Now for the scary part....they fit fine !!
no modifying of anything...except the pipe hook ups.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:28:08 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Hesitation, and thanks!

> From: "MICHAEL THOMAS"
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:07:43 -0500
> Subject: Hesitation, and thanks!

> conqured. A new coil and a > heat range of spark plugs did the

> this weekend would be a >

I thought only my enhanced typing skills could produce such a boob oo
:-)

> Now here's the new problem. The truck idles fine. It has
> hesitation when given full throttle when under load (like 3rd gear
> 35 mph). It's a slight pop and low power of the motor. It sounds
> like starvation of fuel and I have replaced the accelerator pump. I
> wouldn't think idle mix. screw would be it. Maybe power valve?
> Help! I'm so close!!

Power valve causes excessive "Rich" condition, not lean, accellerator
pump may be too large or small for application, Holleys have several
sizes available. Vacuum leak, vacuum leak, vacuum leak, maybe.
Power valve may be too high or low for application and last the main
jets will affect the mid range, off idle range so can't be over
looked either. Idle adjustment is a good place to start since it
doesn't cost anything and can have a dramatic affect on the idle up
accelleration performance. Give us a holler if you don't knwo how
to do this.

Holleys typically have a flat spot just above idle under load and
it's very difficult to get it out without causing some other
performance problem which is one reason I plan to defect to Edelbrock
on my next adventure :-)


Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:32:37 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Pop & hesitation

Dustin: What carberator?????? I think it's still in the carb. Could
be vacuum advance, but not likely if this is the only place you have
it.

>>Now here's the new problem. The truck idles fine. It has
>hesitation when given full throttle when under load (like 3rd gear
>35 mph). It's a slight pop and low power of the motor. It sounds
>like starvation of fuel and I have replaced the accelerator pump.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:38:33 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak
Subject: Handled!

I need a new tailgate handle for my 75 F100. I checked at the
local Ford dealer. It was over $60! Then I opened my NAL catalog. They
sell an off-brand one for $14.99. They also have lots of other stuff
for good prices. Check them out:
National Automotive Lines, Shelbyville, IN. Call them up,
see if they have what you need. Request a catalog while you're at it.
1-800-428-4300
I'm getting ready to order one of these handles plus some other stuff.
Will let you know how it works out!

===
John Pajak JSPajak rocketmail.com
Lexington Park, Maryland http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak

75 F100

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:34:37 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Starvation

Deacon:
>>Lets say the accelerator pump was set
too high. Would too much fuel entering the intake. puddle and cause a
lean
out situation?

Not at 35mph in 3rd I don't think. At idle or just off idle, maybe -
but not at 35mph. Too much air flow to puddle. JMHO.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:41:35 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Milestone

Ken & peg: I'm restricted to E-mail only, by the Company I work for,
so I can't visit web sites. I would like to be able to do that, but am
not computer literate, so I don't have a computer at home. (Actually I
have 2 systems, but they are with my college students off at college,
and when they graduate, they'll probably take the computers with them).

I want to also thank you for your hard work and dedication in setting
up and maintaining the list. You've done an excellent job, and I say
"THANK YOU".

Azie

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:04:54 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Rear Bearings, cleaning solvents to use?

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:24:24 -0800
> Subject: Re: Rear Bearings

> NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER use
> gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Been doing this all my life but would never have attempted what you
did below! EVER! I blew myself up a couple of summers ago burning a
brush pile because I let myself get distracted but the fact is you
still have to have a 15:1 ratio by weight for it to explode and it's
pretty dang finiky about this ratio as most of us who are attempting
to tune our ill performing vehicles can attest. In a garage size
room it takes a lot of gas fumes to do that so I don't worry about it
too much but make an effort to keep the fumes to a minimum for my own
peace of mind :-) Such things as paint thinner can be even worse
than gas and don't work nearly as well as degreasers. Acetone is one
of the more dangerous ones I can think of right now due to being in
the "fast" solvent class. I've use that for cleaning too but I
ventilate very well when I use stuff like that. I periodically aired
the garage out too when I was preparing to run equipment etc..

> put a little gas on it then all of the paper would burn. I put about
> 4 tablespoons of gas on the stack of papers then went for a match. I
> lit the match about 2 feet away from the fireplace and when I was
> about 18 inches away from the fireplace opening........

> Sorry There is no way to be careful enough!!!!!!!!

I'm sure OSHA will agree with you but most of us don't have access to
other solvents which work so well or they are very expensive or you
have to buy 55 gallons at a time. I little care and common sense
works wonders here. I don't smoke and I don't run equipment when
working with gas, it's just common sense. My Granddad OTOH smoked
and ran equipment all his 75 active years and never even had a close
call so go figure. I'm not advocating this BTW and I'm not
really arguing with you, I actually agree with your sentiments
and would like very much to have something available which is
safer to use, is easily available in small quantities, inexpensive
AND STILL DOES THE SAME JOB :-) I'm all ears now for the suggestions
which meet these criteria :-) Please note where I put the main
emphasis :-)


Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:24:48 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Rear Bearings

> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:10:36 -0800
> From: james oxley
> Subject: Re: Rear Bearings

> >Technically all a bearing needs is a thin film of moly lube to
> >protect it from metal to metal contact so all that needs packing is
> >the bearing.
>
> I thought dana 60 rear (rear) bearings were lubed by the diff oil.
>
> There is no seal to keep oil from going down to bearings. My
> bearings had oil all over them and no grease when I got dana 60.

My 73 van had this axle and I think you're right, the diff oil lubes
the bearings. We had several threads going on this including the
dana 44 so I just kind of made a general statement.

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:34:30 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Parts Warehouse

For all you guys that do some major automotive mechanics work, I found
this place, and can't help but recommend them to you. I'm not
affiliated with them in any way, just highly satisfied with them. They
sell Transmission parts (Auto & Manuals) Clutch sets, Rack & Pinion
sets, C.V.drive axles, Transfer Case parts, Torque Converters, Shop
equipment and diagnostic equipment and several other types of things.
Nothing for engines or rearends. They are located in Florence, Al.
Will ship UPS anywhere. Just call them up 1-800-633-3340 and ask for
customer service to set up your new account with any major credit
card. I bought a O'haul kit for a FWD Shadow for $29.95, and one for a
904LA (Dodge Aspen) for $19.49. I've been paying the local parts house
approx $50 for the exact same kits. each. Even have the same name on
them.

Don't know if they have a web site or not. Their name is: TRANS MART,
INC.
Have distribution centers in St Louis - Dallas - Jacksonville - Norfolk
- - and Corp Headquarters and distribution in Florence.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:37:09 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Parts warehouse

In my earlier post, the O'haul kit was for a transmission - not engine.
Sorry about that.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:45:46 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: Parts Warehouse

Azie: Do you know if they have a Catalog or not. I am in the process
of getting ready to rebuild my 66F100 and the wife's 82 LTD 302 w/AOD.

For all you guys that do some major automotive mechanics work, I
found
this place, and can't help but recommend them to you. I'm not
affiliated with them in any way, just highly satisfied with
them. They
sell Transmission parts (Auto & Manuals) Clutch sets, Rack &
Pinion
sets, C.V.drive axles, Transfer Case parts, Torque Converters,
Shop
equipment and diagnostic equipment and several other types of
things.
Nothing for engines or rearends. They are located in Florence,
Al.
Will ship UPS anywhere. Just call them up 1-800-633-3340 and
ask for
customer service to set up your new account with any major
credit
card. I bought a O'haul kit for a FWD Shadow for $29.95, and
one for a
904LA (Dodge Aspen) for $19.49. I've been paying the local
parts house
approx $50 for the exact same kits. each. Even have the same
name on
them.

Don't know if they have a web site or not. Their name is: TRANS
MART,
INC.
Have distribution centers in St Louis - Dallas - Jacksonville -
Norfolk
- and Corp Headquarters and distribution in Florence.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:08:02 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Parts Warehouse

>Don't know if they have a web site or not. Their name is: TRANS MART,
>INC.
>Have distribution centers in St Louis - Dallas - Jacksonville - Norfolk
>- and Corp Headquarters and distribution in Florence.
>
>Azie

Yes they do have a Webpage. Thanks Azie. After reading your post I did a Web
search and found them. It's the same (800) number so it must be the same
place. I haven't checked out their site yet so I can't say how informative
it is, but here's the URL.
Later!

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.transmart.com/frame.htm

Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
================================================
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:46:52 -0700
From: "Mike Fankhauser"
Subject: Torque Spec's on 289

Hey,
Can someone help me with main and rod cap torque spec's on a 65' 289. I
keep getting mis information on this, I even had someone tell me mains go
90-95ft/lbs. I tried that and pulled a bolt. *#$ $# $ %$# # #$.... Don't
want to do that again. I am doing a body on restore of a 61' F-100 short
Unibody and the previous owner had slipped this 289 w/ C4 auto in this
pickup. My books do not match this motor so I am stuck. Any tips would be
very helpful....

Thanks!!

Mike from WY

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:04:25 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please

I have a 66 F100 Short Box Style Side that is still using the original Rear Leaf Springs.


A. do I have these springs re-arched or


B. do I buy some new springs for it?


Thanks!



Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie

Mesa, AZ

1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi
5-Speed.

1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.

1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long
Box, Style Side.

1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner,

Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.

My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"




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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:00:31 -0500
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: question on 390 specs

Is there any differnce between 68 390 car heads and 74 390 truck heads.
Or basically the whole motor...I can pick up a 68 390 block crank and
heads for $150 there from a 68 car...would they be good for a truck
motor(heads?)
joe

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:14:11 -0800
From: marko
Subject: Re: ADMIN: MAJOR MILESTONE!!

>As others have said, I too say thank you both Ken and Peggy.
>
> You have brought us together to share in a common interest. The wealth
>of information and camaraderie you have established through your selfless
>dedication to our Webpage and lists shall not go thankless.
>
>Your friend
>Jim Strigas
> (AKA)
>Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net


AMEN!!!!!!



marko in vancouver
marko helix.net


how bout them broncos? ford ones, I mean ;-)

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:35:07 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: question on 390 specs

>Is there any differnce between 68 390 car heads and 74 390 truck heads.
>Or basically the whole motor...I can pick up a 68 390 block crank and
>heads for $150 there from a 68 car...would they be good for a truck
>motor(heads?)
>joe

Joe,

It is possible, though I can't say for sure without you giving me the
casting numbers, that the 74 truck heads have a larger combustion chamber.
The 68 car heads might be some hi perf types, with different bolt pattern
for the exhaust, or smaller combustion chambers. This is rare, but possible.

If they are hi perf types they are nice to have. You can always get a
custom flange made for headers to fit the exhaust bolt pattern.

The crank is in all cases the same for a 390. The block is also the same.
By using the stock replacement listed piston you shouldn't end up with too
much compression for today's gas.

Look for the casting numbers on the heads and post them. These numbers (for
a '68 should be C8XX-X or something. The casting number is between #2 and
#3 spark plug on the head.

As for the price, it's pretty good but since you're buying engine parts and
not the whole thing, somebody's had it apart. This means that something has
been done to it probly. The motor wouldna come apart if it was good. So
determine what was good/bad. $150 isn't too much to gamble on a motor.

Get the rods too, as they are different between 352/360 and 390. And the
tin (and aluminum), if you can, as it's a pain to locate.


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:28:56 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: MOPAR V10

At 11:50 AM 1/26/98 -0500, am14 chrysler.com wrote:
>>>>>Dodges V-10 is a tuned down viper motor and there have been tuners
>out there pumping out 700 plus horses with them!
>
>Vipers have aluminum heads. Dodge trucks are cast iron. Not quite the
>same. Also use different cams - valves - exhaust and intake
>manifolds.
>Bolt patterns are the same.
>

Viper motor is tuned for high-RPM horsepower and the truck motor is tuned
for low-RPM torque.

700 HP is also available from turbocharged small I-4s at 9500 RPM but I
wouldn't want to put it in a 1-ton ;>

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:32:53 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: Rear Brakes Dana 60's

At 01:17 PM 1/26/98 +0000, Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any information on the earlier dana 60's? I was
>> thinking about adding the 3" drums to the back. It's not that I
>> would not be open to swapping the entire rear end out but the later
>> models are to wide.
>
>There was a very good article in one of the 4x4 mags last year and it
>mentioned that there were 4 types of dana 60 with the 35 spline being
>the strongest and the 16 being the weakest. There were housing and
>tubing concernes as well but I don't have it in front of me right
>now.
>

12" x 3" drums were fitted to 1-tons and some HD 3/4 ton trucks from Dodge
and Ford through most of the '70s and Dodge through the '80s. Some of the
1-tons have Dana 70s but the brakes should interchange OK with a 35-spline
Dana 60. Most regular 3/4 tons had 12 x 2.5" I think.

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:06:58 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please

At 12:04 PM 1/27/98 -0700, Keith Srb wrote:


I have a 66 F100 Short Box Style Side that is still using the
original Rear Leaf Springs.


A. do I have these springs re-arched or


B. do I buy some new springs for it?





Might check out Eastern States http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.espo.com/ since they've had
stuff for alot less than some of the others in the past. Great source
for OE replacements.

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:23:25 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please

> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:04:25 -0700
> From: Keith Srb
> Subject: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please

> I have a 66 F100 Short Box Style Side that is still using the
> original Rear Leaf Springs.
>
> A. do I have these springs re-arched or
>
> B. do I buy some new springs for it?

Depends on condition. If they look farily intact a rearch would
probably work otherwise new springs might be a better choice.

I had mine "repaired" at a spring shop where they rearced the main
leafs, replace the broken ones and bushings and bolts for $281 and I
didn't have to do anything but pick it up and pay for it :-)


Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:00:14 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 460 Ex manifolds

> From: am14 chrysler.com
> Subject: 460 Ex manifolds
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:26:20 -0500

> What year truck are we talking about here?????I've done a '77 F250
> 4X4 and a '79 F350 4X4, and had to notch the frame on both.
>
> >> Now for the scary part....they fit fine !!
> no modifying of anything...except the pipe hook ups.

Azie, some guys just smash the heck out of the pipe for clearance :-)
Some guys don't know the difference between the two manifolds so
think they have the car version but really have the truck like one
gentleman who swore he had car version since he got the motor out of
a van cuz he didn't consider vans trucks............:-)


Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:25:00 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: FE conversion

There's been a lot of traffic about the venerable FE series of motors.
Here's a question. Hot Rod magazine has been running articles about
building long rod (not stroke) motors with high compression (about
11.0:1) claiming more power and the ability to run on 87 octane pump
gas. So far they have featured a 350 of questionable heritage (GM) and
a Ford 351W. Would this be possible to do with the FE family? They
have used special pistons with shorter compression heights to allow the
longer rod to fit. They were shooting for close to 2.0:1.0 rod/stroke
ratio. Where could I get the critical dimensions to put a project like
this together? I've always believed that if I could up the compression
I could make the engine more efficient. That coupled with a 2.75:1 rear
and a wide ratio C6 should add up to improved mileage. Just bench
racing but does anyone have other ideas?


Tom H
San Francisco, California
76 F-150 SuperCab 390FE
96 Windstar 200 hp 3.8L (Wife's Hot Rod)

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:05:44 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: Torque Spec's on 289

At 11:46 AM 1/27/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey,
>Can someone help me with main and rod cap torque spec's on a 65' 289. I
>keep getting mis information on this, I even had someone tell me mains go
>90-95ft/lbs. I tried that and pulled a bolt. *#$ $# $ %$# # #$....

According to my Haynes manual, mains should be 60-70 ft/lbs, and rod caps
should be 19-24 ft/lbs.

Mike

_____________________________________________

Email: mikes intx.net
Home Page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.intx.net/mikes

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:28:57 -0500
From: perryfarrell
Subject: Just a couple of questions about my truck.

I have a few questions concerning my '77 Ford F100 Custom. I am pretty
sure the engine is a 302. It is a straight six, but I am not totally
100% sure that it is a 302. I have looked under the hood to find this
information but it is not there. I haven't looked on the driver's side
door, but is that where I could find out what my engine is? Anyways, now
that I've started off with a stupid question, I have a little harder
question. Does anyone know what size (I guess that's how one would
describe it) the carburator (how many bbls) is for a '77 302? I'm pretty
sure it's 1. What's the difference between 1, 2, 3, and 4 bbl carbs? If
it is a 1, could I replace it with a 4? I also have a question regarding
the transmission. Would it be possible for me to take the old automatic
trans out and replace it with a new manual? I don't see why not, I'm
just making sure. Also, I am in need of places to buy parts for my
truck, so any online sites or places where I could get a catalog would
be greatly appreciated. Finally, I have a question regarding the master
cylinder. Since there is quite a bit of space in the engine compartment,
I would like to put 2 subwoofers (one on each side) in the engine
compartment and have them fire into the cabin. I would like to cut holes
out on each side and seal the subs, so that only the grille sticks out.
My question is this: since the master cylinder (and 2 hoses, by the way)
is kind of in the way, I would like to relocate it, maybe to the side
fender. Would this be okay to do? I mean, it wouldn't screw up the
brakes or anything, would it? Thanks for any help.
perryfarrell juno.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:53:15 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: Just a couple of questions about my truck.

Well Perry if it is a straight six. You definitely do not have a 302.
It is more likely a 240 or a 300 and if it is a 240 where is the carb
located? Sitting on the intake manifold on the passenger side of the
engine compartment? If so it is probably a single barrel Autolite or
Holley.

As for parts check out the web page for suppliers
Master cylinder? DO NOT MOVE IT. It is tied directly to you brake
pedal


-----Original Message-----
From:perryfarrell [SMTP:perryfarrell juno.com]
Sent:Tuesday, January 27, 1998 2:29 PM
To:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject:Just a couple of questions about my truck.

I have a few questions concerning my '77 Ford F100 Custom. I am
pretty
sure the engine is a 302. It is a straight six, but I am not
totally
100% sure that it is a 302. I have looked under the hood to find
this
information but it is not there. I haven't looked on the
driver's side
door, but is that where I could find out what my engine is?
Anyways, now
that I've started off with a stupid question, I have a little
harder
question. Does anyone know what size (I guess that's how one
would
describe it) the carburator (how many bbls) is for a '77 302?
I'm pretty
sure it's 1. What's the difference between 1, 2, 3, and 4 bbl
carbs? If
it is a 1, could I replace it with a 4? I also have a question
regarding
the transmission. Would it be possible for me to take the old
automatic
trans out and replace it with a new manual? I don't see why not,
I'm
just making sure. Also, I am in need of places to buy parts for
my
truck, so any online sites or places where I could get a catalog
would
be greatly appreciated. Finally, I have a question regarding the
master
cylinder. Since there is quite a bit of space in the engine
compartment,
I would like to put 2 subwoofers (one on each side) in the
engine
compartment and have them fire into the cabin. I would like to
cut holes
out on each side and seal the subs, so that only the grille
sticks out.
My question is this: since the master cylinder (and 2 hoses, by
the way)
is kind of in the way, I would like to relocate it, maybe to the
side
fender. Would this be okay to do? I mean, it wouldn't screw up
the
brakes or anything, would it? Thanks for any help.
perryfarrell juno.com
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:27:01 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Rear sump pan for FE 390.

Hello: I just receive an email from a gentleman looking for an oilpan
with the sump in the rear for a 390 FE. Can someone tell me what this
pan would have come off of. Also does anyone have a spare they don't
want.

Hope this isn't off topic?

Thanks
John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 427 Corvette

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:05:59 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 460 ex manifolds

and try, for those looking for a whole engine to transplant, the early
(lincolns, etc.) for the 460 as the p/s is right on the crank. it makes
for a lot less bracketing and a cleaner engine compartment. also an easier
transplant. these engines are getting scarce as the heads and block are
desirable, but with reduced compression the stock engine works well in a
truck.

sleddog

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From: CandyDMan[SMTP:CandyDMan aol.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 1998 6:06 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: 460 ex manifolds

For bracketing on the 460s, check out Lincolns. I used the alternaor and
Powersteering brackets from a Continental for the 460 in my 70 F250 4x4.
Of
course both brackets had to be used because the alternator bracket uses
only
the inner pulley which does not line up with the fan-currently I'm using
the
powersteering pump as an idler pulley for the fan(need to find the power
steering box). The other thing about the Continental powersteering bracket
is
that is also part of the bracket for the A/C. I'm not using it yet, so I'm
not sure if it will work exactly, the steering shaft looks like it might be
a
little close.

Dennis






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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:13:35 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please

new springs IMHO. rearched ones loose their arch pretty quickly sometimes.
sleddog

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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 2:04 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Rear Leaf Springs - Opinions Please

I have a 66 F100 Short Box Style Side that is still using the original Rear Leaf Springs.


A. do I have these springs re-arched or


B. do I buy some new springs for it?


Thanks!



Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie

Mesa, AZ

1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi
5-Speed.

1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.

1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long
Box, Style Side.

1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner,

Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.

My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"








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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:47:23 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: The greatest deal in history -- besides buying alaska.

hello,

a few of you on the list have followed my search, and helped me look for a
set of CJ or better heads for my 460. well, the search is over!!

i just stepped into the greatest deal of the entire automotive world.
for $1200 i get a complete set of cast iron blue thunder (better than CJ
out of the box) heads and an offy intake. the heads flow almost as much as
prostock heads on the intake and more than i need on the exhaust. bigger....


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