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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, January 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 020



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In this issue:

Easy Off !! [Serian ]
Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100 [Serian ]
Pass side Ex manifold [am14 chrysler.com]
Spark plugs [am14 chrysler.com]
Turn signals [am14 chrysler.com]
Spring steel [am14 chrysler.com]
"64 F350 [am14 chrysler.com]
List [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #19 [Chezpip ]
Speedometer correction [Jamey Moss ]
Re: Upgrading brakes. [Don Grossman ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [Don Grossman ]
hesitation [Jesus Cardoso ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #19 [Don Grossman ]
'64 F-350 Util [Brian Koss ]
1965 F100 Parts F/S, Maryland (fwd) [Jesus Cardoso
Re: Wiper motor ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dana update ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dana update [Mark Shankel ]
Re: Brakes, resto, was digest V2 #19 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Fun Stuff !! [Brian & Jacque Milbrandt ]
Re: 72 f250 410???????????? [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: hesitation [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
RE: hesitation [Sleddog ]
RE: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [Sleddog ]
'77 F150-351 Overtemp/Headgsket [Gregg Park ]

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:10:56 -0500
From: Serian
Subject: Easy Off !!

Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net wrote:
>A list member once suggested Easy Off oven cleaner. I tried it and it worked
>great. Takes paint and all off.

No doubt about this one ... that stuff is sodium hydroxide in a soap-like
base...
the same active ingredient that is used to clean out stopped-up drains and
hot-tank
engine blocks.
Dont get it on aluminum parts, though, or it will corrode and eventually
dissolve
them, and release a little hydrogen in the process ...

== B. Edwards Manahan

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:38:15 -0500
From: Serian
Subject: Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100

Don Wignall" wrote:
>I would like to install a 460, I have out in the garage, into my '71 F-100
> to replace the 360 that is pretty sick. If anyone can, please
> advise me what engine mounts will work, where they are available,
> etc and anything else that is beneficial for this swap.

To add to the advice Gary and others gave;
You will need the bell-housing from the 460 trans, as there is a difference
between the ones used for the big block 460 and the FE block 360.
(I have considered this kind of swap in the F250 HD 4x2 that is awaiting
repairs in my yard ... maybe I'll just find a 400 and put a 4V manifold on
it.)
Also, if the carb on your 360 is a 2V and not a 4V, you will want to get a
4V carb for your 460.

== B. Edwards Manahan


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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:57:55 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Pass side Ex manifold

Yepper!!!! I know it too, cause I did it.

>> There is a reason I know this but I'm not
tellin :-)

Azie

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:03:58 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Spark plugs

I'm going from memory here, and sometimes that isn't too good. The
book calls for F11Y in your 73 390. The F9Y will work, but might be a
little on the cold side (lower # being colder I believe). This is the
way I remember it anyway.

>> I have a set of Champion F9YC's. I think they'll fit the 390 in my
> 73 F250.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:08:33 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Turn signals

I'm not Gary nor Deacon, but I'm interested.

>>If You are interested in the circuit, I'll draw it up and send it

Azie

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:19:55 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Spring steel

>>Anyone know how hard
spring steel would be to drill?

Unless you use a "Blue tipped wrench" very hard. Don't try it with
regular bits. The torch will take
the temper out of the steel, but its the only way I know.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:31:18 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: "64 F350

Mark: The 6 Lug pattern was very scarcely used. You might be able to
locate some parts if you can find some salvage yard that has some old
railroad trucks that would run on the track or the highway. If I'm not
mistaken this is where most of the six lug patterns with 17" tires/rims
were used. I've only actually seen one other than railroad.

Good luck.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:40:30 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: List

I'm only on one other list and it is the Dakota Truck list. This list
is much more informative and technical than the other. I work for
Chrysler, so I don't condem any of the other brands. I just love old
FOMOCO vehicles of all sorts and own a variety of them, however my
daily driver is a Dakota for obvious reasons. I don't want to park
another brand in the parking lot. I have no problems with the MOPARS.
I just love the FOMOCO's. I thought I was an expert on the FE blocks
only to find out just within the last few weeks there were two
different rod lengths, so it just goes to show me that I'm not too old
to learn. Lots of the problems discussed here , I have either
experienced, or know someone who has experienced it. I love it. I
think Marko (or whoever) hit it on the head when he said it is a
distillation process. This is definately a good list for me.

Thank you Ken and family for your dilligence and patience with us.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:58:20 EST
From: Chezpip
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #19

we'll see about the tank for my 72 f250... thanks for the tip. how bout my
'66 shortbed F100?? Big block power (390) needs disc brakes...in my humble
opinion. I would like a bunch of advice befor i start, but am seriously
considering a switch. a place back east said that they would re-work the
spindles for disc for just about 1000 dollars... worth it??? i'm doing a
resto on the truck, but would like to give it some height... so, does anyone
know if they make a lift kit for the old Twin I-beam suspensions??? (bent I
beams, longer radius arms, etc...) would a front end of an early 80's truck
bolt on with some new radius arm brackets??? all these questions are stemmed
by my enthusiasm for my hobby and a love for my truck (that i stole off some
guy for 300 bucks!!!) thanks in advance for your advice... oh, anyone who
would love to just chat about the '66 fords, please e'mail me directly...
Phillip, L.A. CA these are the fords i own...'66 F100 resto, '72 F250
camper special with an FE 410 C6, '66 ford mustang coupe fully
restored...want a picture???

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:20:38 -0600
From: Jamey Moss
Subject: Speedometer correction

My '67 F100 has had an incorrect speedometer since a previous owner put in a
different engine and transmission (400/C6) and non-factory sized tires, and it
bugged me enough to change it. I followed some advice I found in the archives
and changed the plastic gear where the speedometer cable connects to the
transmission, and now it shows the correct speed.

I knew the speedometer was reading high, but I had to find out how high. Over
the holidays I drove 200 miles (based on the mile markers) to my parents
house, but my odometer showed 220, or 10% high. I removed the plastic gear at
the end of the speedometer cable on the transmission and counted the number of
teeth (16). I needed 10% more teeth, but the Ford dealer was out of gears
with 17.6 teeth ;-) so I bought one with 18 teeth.

The new plastic gear looked shorter than the old one, but it fit fine and now
I have a working speedometer (okay, it's around 2% off, but I can live with 1
mph off at 50 mph). If anyone needs a perfectly fine plastic gear with 16
teeth for a C6 transmission, I'll send you my old one for free.


Jamey Moss ra4001 email.sps.mot.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:25:20 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Upgrading brakes.

RL wrote:
>
> On my F-100 can you add a master cycender to drum brakes to make it have
> power drum brakes. If I'm wrong please correct me. He's always complaining
> about them. So I figure this weekend I'll check to see if its leaking
> around the wheels.
> Thanks Ryan
>
> 1971 Torino 500, 1971 F-100, 1977 Hornet Sportabout,
> 1978 New Yorker e-mail: st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu
> Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9027
> Fairlane Club of America

You sure can. I would look for a booster from a 67-72 for your truck.
You shouldn't even have to crack a brake line.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:30:25 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

danadeb pacbell.net wrote:
>
> Don Grossman wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > I really don't want to trim the fender but it would be quicker than
> > lifting the cab and inch. Maybe if I put a new location pin in the leaf
> > spring I could move the axle forward an inch. Anyone know how hard
> > spring steel would be to drill?
>
> Why not use spacers between the axle and spring!
>
> Dana

Sorry I meant to say the front fenders. No spacers for me there.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:32:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Jesus Cardoso
Subject: hesitation

O GREAT WISE ONES!!!!!

I have a question.....
My truck has been doing this hesitation/pulling action lately, but
it does not die. If I let go of the gas and give it some time it will
eventually recover. It does not hesitate all the time!
I have check the timing (which as off by 10 degrees), the vacuum advance
is okay, it is getting enough gas from the fuel pump, the carb has been
cleaned, and there no visible damage to any of the engine components. To
put it simply, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK IS CAUSING THE HESITATION!

I have a theory that the one of the plug wires might be bad, even
thought they are new NAPA wire. Does any one know what the resistance of
a good wire should be, or what resistance make a wire bad?

Any assitance would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy
Graduate Research Assistant (Power System Automation Lab)
Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-3128
w: 409-845-4623, h: 409-775-0737, fax: 845-6259
Personal Address: P.O. Box 2214, College Station, TX 77841-2214
e-mail: cardoso ee.tamu.edu, url: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ee.tamu.edu/~cardoso

Keep in mind the following:
- Minds are like parachutes, they only work when there are open.
- Todos en el mundo sonreimos en la misma lengua.
"All of us in the world smile in the same language."



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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:44:00 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #19

Chezpip wrote:
>
> we'll see about the tank for my 72 f250... thanks for the tip. how bout my
> '66 shortbed F100?? Big block power (390) needs disc brakes...in my humble
> opinion. I would like a bunch of advice befor i start, but am seriously
> considering a switch. a place back east said that they would re-work the
> spindles for disc for just about 1000 dollars... worth it???

No.

Look into adapting 70's disks to it. Someone will be along shortly with
the information you need.

> i'm doing a
> resto on the truck, but would like to give it some height... so, does anyone
> know if they make a lift kit for the old Twin I-beam suspensions???

A little longer spring maybe...

>(bent I
> beams, longer radius arms, etc...) would a front end of an early 80's truck
> bolt on with some new radius arm brackets??? all these questions are stemmed
> by my enthusiasm for my hobby and a love for my truck (that i stole off some
> guy for 300 bucks!!!) thanks in advance for your advice... oh, anyone who
> would love to just chat about the '66 fords, please e'mail me directly...
> Phillip, L.A. CA these are the fords i own...'66 F100 resto, '72 F250
> camper special with an FE 410 C6, '66 ford mustang coupe fully
> restored...want a picture???
I want your 410 *g*

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:43:46 -0800
From: Brian Koss
Subject: '64 F-350 Util

Funny you should askMark. I was out yarding last week and there was a 64
f350 in the local junk yard. I am going to make another round tomarrow.
This truck had the large "truck" type rims on it. Is there anything
distinctive that I should look for? I believe rear ends go for about $60.
Probably nothing compared to shipping. The wheels are $10 each if the tires
are no good. Let me know if your interested. Email me direct as i will not
get the digest until tomarrow morning.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:58:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Jesus Cardoso
Subject: 1965 F100 Parts F/S, Maryland (fwd)

I hope this helps someone.

Jesus

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 13 Jan 1998 13:44:46 GMT
From: "Robert -. Chance"
Newsgroups: alt.autos.classic-trucks
Subject: 1965 F100 Parts F/S, Maryland


I have parts from a 1965 F100 available. The truck is missing the following
pieces:

L/Front Fender
L/S Door
Hood + Hinges
Seat
Bed/Tailgate (rusted out)
Wiper Motor+Switch
Chrome Trim


Otherwise, it's in OK shape. All glass is good, Dash pieces, Ignition/Door
locks, Steering Gear/Wheel, GRILL, etc. etc.

Call or email for more information

Bob Chance
b-c openroute.com
410-760-4340
Glen Burnie, MD
(Near Baltimore)

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:16:15 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Wiper motor

> From: Jim Pointer
> Subject: Wiper motor
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:00:44 -0600
> Reply-to: fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net

> What I'm looking for is my windshield wiper motor. That is to
> say, I'm having a hard time figuring out where it's hidden on my 66
> F100. The Chilton manual, which tries to cover 21 years worth of

They're usually mounted under the cowl in front of the windshield but
access to them may be from under the hood, the dash or the cowl if
it's removable like on the 75 vans. Is it electric or vacuum?
Doesn't matter, just curious?

Look under the hood first for a motor looking doflingy near the
master cylinder area. See how it's attached and go from there. :-)
If you don't see anything there look inside the cowl throught the
louvres with a flash light for some clues. As already mentioned it
may be under the dash as well.

I bet that's what the Haynes said right?


Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:17:33 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Dana update

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: Dana update
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:45:05 -0800

> A list member once suggested Easy Off oven cleaner. I tried it and
> it worked great. Takes paint and all off.

Thank you very much for reminding me! :-) I've been meaning to try
that but keep forgetting about it :-(

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:29:23 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

> From: "Dave Resch"
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:30:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

> I am subscribed to both this list and the '80-up list. Owning a
> 1980 F250 4x4 w/ 351M, I find a lot more pertinent information on
> this list than I do on the 80-up list. (In fact, other than its

There are "Wheelers" and "Hot Roders" and then there's your "Low
Riders" and "Suv's" and they usually don't belong on the same lists.
I want my wheeler to look good but it's definitely not a low rider
and I won't be putting much plastic on it so the tech stuff is what
interests me. My daughter has a 97 she can't afford but she's
constantly thinking about how to fix it up??? How do you "fix up" a
$25000 vehicle you're making $450 payments on? I'm trying to "fix
up" a $3000 vehicle I will be making $350 payments on for the next
year and then she's all mine :-)))))

I make a heck of a lot more money than she does but still can't
justify a new truck. Not that I'd want a plastic/aluminum/electronic
toy that some call a truck anyway. Iron and steel and 460's, that's
a truck Ooogh Ooogh Oooooooooooooooooogh :-)

Shrinking? Naaaaaaa, just weeding out :-)


Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:46:03 -0700
From: Mark Shankel
Subject: Re: Dana update

danadeb pacbell.net wrote:

> I have used diesel to remove grease etc. seems to work well enough and it's
> cheap I don't know if it is a good idea for flammability reasons but I think it
> is less flammable then paint thinner. If anyone knows a good reason not to use
> it let me know. ( I don't want to become a statistic ------Kaboom---- )
>
> The nice thing that I have found is that once the grease is devolved it can be
> hosed off ( into an environmentally friendly, recycle container of course )
>
> Dana
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Castrol Super Cleaner is great stuff, can etch some materials though, like
alluminum.

Mark

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:46:00 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Brakes, resto, was digest V2 #19

> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:44:00 -0800
> From: Chezpip
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #19

> > how bout my '66 shortbed F100?? Big block power (390) needs disc
> > brakes...in my humble opinion. I would like a bunch of advice

You should be able to swap out the spindle for newer ones with disks
from a junk yard. You may need to take the whole "I" beam assy but
then you just need to modify the pin hole or replace the brackets
with the newer ones. Should be pretty straight forward.

> > resto on the truck, but would like to give it some height... so,
> > does anyone know if they make a lift kit for the old Twin I-beam
> > suspensions???

Lengthening the springs will change the camber so the beams will have
to be bent (not a good option) by a competent shop or drop brackets
will be required (best option IMHO). Don't know off hand if anyone
makes them since 2wd lifts are very scarce and not supported well in
the industry but a good fab/welder should be able to set something up
if you give him the old brackets to work with. (cut the rivits and
pop them out so you don't damage the brackets. I use a torch to cut
the heads off then touch them up with a grinder if I have access and
use an air hammer to punch them out. Replace them with grade 5 or 8
bolts.

> > questions are stemmed by my enthusiasm for my hobby and a love

That's why we're all here I think :-)

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:50:34 -0500
From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt
Subject: Fun Stuff !!

Ok Guy's....

I've been running into some "fun" stuff lately. I know there's a few of
you out there who have done these things before so maybe you can help me
solve the headaches!!

First off, I am changing from a 400 to a 460 in my '64 F100. When I
bought the truck the engine compartment was totally bare. The former
owner of the truck had blown the 400 up and removed it. I had the 460
from a former truck and thought it would ad a great touch to the truck.
The installation is a challenge, as I have found that lots of things
don't work like you plan.

I am in need of assistance with a radiator. I've found that the one
that was in it is bad, plus its pretty small. What radiator should I
look for ? even the one that was in it looks to be very tight with the
460. I've moved the 460 back to the fire wall to make room for the front
pulley assembly to clear the front of the frame (leaving about 2" of
clearance) I set the radiator in place and tried the fan just to see
what type of clearance i had and it was pretty scary! Do I need to use a
electric fan ? Or is there a radiator that will work fine with a regular
stock type fan assembly ??

Also I seem to be having trouble finding headers to fit, does anyone
have this conversion with headers that can tell me what you've used ??
Or do i need to go with stock manifolds? I tried a set of L&L headers I
had from a 79' 460 swap, the passenger side was fine, but the drivers
side hit the steering pitman arm and drag link assembly. these headers
were a style that goes through the wheel wells and not inside the frame
rails. the steering is still the stock manual type.

I've tried stans headers, no luck...I've tried some local shops here in
the Twin Cities...but no one has anything, they all have stuff for the
older 50's models.

Thanks in advance for your support .


Brian

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:03:04 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 72 f250 410????????????


>Phillip, L.A. CA these are the fords i own...'66 F100 resto, '72 F250
>camper special with an FE 410 C6, '66 ford mustang coupe fully
>restored...want a picture???


Okay, now you got me interested. Here I thought I would be the only person
with a 410 Merc in my truck, which will be a 67 mercury body on a 71 f250
4x4 chassis. The 410 is out of a 66 merc stationwagon and will be built.

If you got a 410 in your truch I wanna hear ALL about it.

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:09:04 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: hesitation

>O GREAT WISE ONES!!!!!
>
>I have a question.....
>My truck has been doing this hesitation/pulling action lately, but
>it does not die. If I let go of the gas and give it some time it will
>eventually recover. It does not hesitate all the time!
> I have check the timing (which as off by 10 degrees), the vacuum advance
>is okay, it is getting enough gas from the fuel pump, the carb has been
>cleaned, and there no visible damage to any of the engine components. To
>put it simply, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK IS CAUSING THE HESITATION!
>
>I have a theory that the one of the plug wires might be bad, even
>thought they are new NAPA wire. Does any one know what the resistance of
>a good wire should be, or what resistance make a wire bad?
>
>Any assitance would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!
>
I had this problem in my 78 mercury cougar with 302 which I bought for $150.
It was a great car with rust straight thru the bumpers, and was on its 3d
engine.

I was dumbfounded. I'd be driving down the highway and all of a sudden the
thing would lurch and miss and it was just horrible. After replacing most
of the ignition (at a cost greater than the entire car, I might add!!) and
fuel system, I noticed that the fuel line was dinged by a rock in one spot
and had a pinhole in it. Replacing the fuel line fixed the problem.

It sounds like you have a fuel system aeration/pressurization problem. Is
you gas cap properly vented? (When you open it, if you hear a sharp
"pfffft!" it means you have vacuum in your gas tank). Are there any
holes/such in your fuel line?

hope this helps....



marko

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:53:34 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: hesitation

it is different depending on the kind of wire, and of course, the length.
when i bought MSD wires, they had told me the correct resistance, per foot
or inch or something, and then i checked them according to that after
assembly. (i'll never buy universal wires again!)

since you do not know the resistance, check them until one comes up very
high. if they are all very close to the same total resistance, then your
wires should be ok. but i have heard of wires going bad only at higher
temps, or sometimes vibration causing a on again off again spark on that
plug.

you say the carb was cleaned. is it at all possible that the accelerater
pump got damaged from cleaning it? some carb parts are very sensitive to
compressed air, accidental screwdriver slips, etc.

sleddog

- ----------
From: Jesus Cardoso[SMTP:cardoso EESUN2.tamu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 4:32 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: hesitation

O GREAT WISE ONES!!!!!

I have a question.....
My truck has been doing this hesitation/pulling action lately, but
it does not die. If I let go of the gas and give it some time it will
eventually recover. It does not hesitate all the time!
I have check the timing (which as off by 10 degrees), the vacuum advance
is okay, it is getting enough gas from the fuel pump, the carb has been
cleaned, and there no visible damage to any of the engine components. To
put it simply, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK IS CAUSING THE HESITATION!

I have a theory that the one of the plug wires might be bad, even
thought they are new NAPA wire. Does any one know what the resistance of
a good wire should be, or what resistance make a wire bad?

Any assitance would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>

Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy
Graduate Research Assistant (Power System Automation Lab)
Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-3128
w: 409-845-4623, h: 409-775-0737, fax: 845-6259
Personal Address: P.O. Box 2214, College Station, TX 77841-2214
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:11:29 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

i have one of those ""Not that I'd want a plastic/aluminum/electronic toy
that some call a truck anyway"" trucks in my driveway parked between 3
fords from the 70's. i love my truck (i know, it is a dodge) i love my
fords. IMHO the ranking of trucks based on beauty alone, is:
1 1956 ford big window
2 73-79 ford (no stepsides though)
3 94-98 dodge ram
4 any mid 70's to 93 dodge, especially the power wagons.

but for daily driving, my new truck (is 94 still considered new?) is
fantastic. it can do the work of my old trucks ever did and still give me
the comfort of a luxury car.

i do have to admit, after building old trucks, and buying new, i will NEVER
BUY A NEW TRUCK AGAIN!!

i'll buy a used truck, put as much into as i payed for it, and have a great
truck for half the cost of a new one.

there are two different attitudes. the new truck owners tend to bolt,
tape or other wise attatch things to their truck all over the place
creating an aftermarket lund advertisement. then, most older truck owners
(the truck, not the owner) fix it, build it better, make it faster, better
handling, or whatever. and then the new truck owners complain about all
the things that make trucks what they are. like gas mileage, ride quality,
just as an example.

some of us are lucky to have a new and old truck. but for me, if i had to
choose i think i'd keep the old ones!!

ok, i'm finished not talking about anything.

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 6:29 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

> From: "Dave Resch"
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:30:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

> I am subscribed to both this list and the '80-up list. Owning a
> 1980 F250 4x4 w/ 351M, I find a lot more pertinent information on
> this list than I do on the 80-up list. (In fact, other than its

There are "Wheelers" and "Hot Roders" and then there's your "Low
Riders" and "Suv's" and they usually don't belong on the same lists.
I want my wheeler to look good but it's definitely not a low rider
and I won't be putting much plastic on it so the tech stuff is what
interests me. My daughter has a 97 she can't afford but she's
constantly thinking about how to fix it up??? How do you "fix up" a
$25000 vehicle you're making $450 payments on? I'm trying to "fix
up" a $3000 vehicle I will be making $350 payments on for the next
year and then she's all mine :-)))))

I make a heck of a lot more money than she does but still can't
justify a new truck. Not that I'd want a plastic/aluminum/electronic
toy that some call a truck anyway. Iron and steel and 460's, that's
a truck Ooogh Ooogh Oooooooooooooooooogh :-)

Shrinking? Naaaaaaa, just weeding out :-)


Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --






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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:35:25 -0800
From: Gregg Park
Subject: '77 F150-351 Overtemp/Headgsket

I=92ve been subscribed for about 2 weeks or so, and I can just tell you
this; I=92ve learned more in a few weeks of reading this list than
anywhere else, that=92s for sure. And the gracious help I=92ve =
received
from members is literally inspiring. Enough of the mush, though. Let
me tell you guys where I=92m at in the continuing adventures of my =
=9277
F150-351M. =20
It now looks as though I do have a bad head gasket, resulting in the
overheating. Compression test showed cylinders #1 and #2 (the two
closest to the alternator) at about 125lbs. All others tested at 150. A
leak down test brought both the 130=92s up to 200, but a 150 cylinder =
went
up to 240, whatever that means. Anyway, after the compression test, =
and
the plugs were back in, I was again checking the timing. Lo and
behold, I began to see water vapor upon pulling off the oil filler cap.
Now I see water in the oil. So, I=92ve decided to go ahead and pull =
the
heads off.=20

One interesting thing to note is that during the timing check, I....

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