fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, April 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 195



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In this issue:

Re: Swap Meet in Columbus ? [Stu Varner ]
Re: Shift tube ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: My OOP'S: Flow Bench. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
whiter white article [jniolon uss.com]
Gaskets [BDIJXS ]
4x4 hubs [BDIJXS ]
Boxing the Frame [Vogt Family ]
Re: 1975 F-100 4x4 ["Justin Frank Wimpey" ]
RE: 1975 F-100 4x4 [Sleddog ]
4 wheel disk Help 56 F100 ["Tim Baker" ]
Re: Boxing the Frame ["JAMES MERLO" ]
Re: 1967 f100 snow/ice [sbest ]
ADMIN: Pigeon Forge show [Ken Payne ]
Re: Custom Classic Trucks ["Dennis K. Austin" ]
Re: Gas Tank Sealer ["Dennis K. Austin" ]
Re: 1967 f100 snow/ice [Ractrk002 ]
Re: '66 power steering parts.... ["Dennis K. Austin"
Gas Tanks [Ractrk002 ]
Re: 1975 F-100 4x4 [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 1975 F-100 4x4 [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Custom Classic Trucks [Ken Payne ]
Re: 4 wheel disk Help 56 F100 [danadeb pacbell.net]

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 12:30:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: Swap Meet in Columbus ?

The Columbus Swap meet is
>> in the opinions of many one of the 2 or 3 best swap meets to go to for ford
>> parts in the whole wide world.....unless you had access to the secret Ford
>> warehouse somewhere, but then it wouldn't be a swap meet, it would be
heaven!!
>>
>> John, could you tell me a little about Jimmy Rose?? Where in Tennessee is
>> he located, it lokks like a Nashville area code. I'd be interested in
>> looking him up.
>
>Stu: He has a big warehouse of old parts for Ford trucks and he sould me
the last
>two racetrack molding for a supercab and he seems to have everything I've ever
>needed. He ain't cheap but if you have to have it and you want to talk to
some one
>who has the part numbers and knows what you are looking for. He's the man.
Real
>nice gentleman and I believe he is in Nashville but not sure.

John,
I do appreciate your help so very much. Here, I have been trying
to find this and that from people all over the world and right under my
nose, (is a mustache), a man with every Ford part for trucks known to man
lives just 2 easy hours from me......
Why have I never heard of him?? I thought I'd heard about every obsolete
dealer in the world.

>
>Watch it!! As a previous 442 owner be careful about nuking GM
>
Did you say it was a W-30? Ram air optioned 455???? A Major soft spot in
the hearts of some young men who dislike GM products!


Stu
Nuke most all of GM!! ;O)

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:06:53 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Shift tube

> From: "Don"
> Subject: Shift tube
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:00:19 -0600

> Am looking for a "shift tube" (don't know what else to call it) for
> a 1970 F100, P/U, standard shift (on the column). I believe the
> Ford part number is C5TZ 7212 C. Its the tube that hooks to the gear
> shift lever on top of the column and the shift linkage at the
> bottom.

I have the whole column from a 68 or 67 three speed with steering
wheel I took out when I junked the truck. Don't know how much it
costs to ship but I don't have any use for it now. I'll try to
remember to check the shed tonight and make sure I still have it.
Has a brand new shift collar on it too, the white metal part that
always breaks.........

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:08:39 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: My OOP'S: Flow Bench.

> From: "Chris Samuel"
> Subject: My OOP'S: Flow Bench.
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:46:16 -0800

> Yep, as Deacon said, It is for sale.
> I guess that Ol'Sleddog has one, bet his is for sale too, from the
> sounds of it his may have less hours on it, so it may be the better
> deal!

Ok, so what's the price? It may go well with my new lift............

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 13:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: whiter white article

Steve, Deacon, et al.

Just printed out the page and read it... EXCELLENT JOB !!! I think
I'll just give these instructions to my wife and let her do it ! Many
thanks for the work, to you and all who contributed...

Whether we say it or not...we all appreciate the effort it takes to
"share" this information/knowledge with the others in the group. I
wish I was smart enough to be able to do this for someone. Maybe when
I get this project completed my knowledge base will be broad enough to
offer to others. I certainly owe it to several people already.

Now when can I expect the article on
"The Complete Wiring Of A 53-56 Ford F-100"

is there THAT much beer ?????


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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:58:31 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: Gaskets

Hi there,

Thanks for all the leads on the hub gaskets. The Ford part numbers from Dave
W. worked like a charm, I ordered them from Ford this morning. BUT, I'll wait
'till I actually have them in my hand before I really believe they are the
right ones!

Thanks again!

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:08:07 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: 4x4 hubs

Hi Dave,

Can you please give me the Ford part number for the "O" ring that goes on the
actuating knobs for those heavy-duty hubs? I'll see if Ford has them as
well...

Thanks!

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:35:23 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: Boxing the Frame

Before I install a 429 or some other ridiculously huge motor in my 61
F-100 4x4, my teacher suggested I box the frame between the two forward
most cross members. He said that it was probably not necessary even to
go as far as the cross members but that boxing about a foot to the front
and rear of the motor mounts should be sufficient. He suggested using a
piece of plate cut to fit inside the frame channel, welded to form a
box. This truck currently has a 223 six cylinder that attaches the front
motor mounts near the radiator and there are no provisions for V8 motor
mounts that I can see other than a few bolt holes.

Do you have any suggestions or is this way the best?

Also, will I be able to find a bellhousing to match a 429 to the T98?

Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:44:40 -0500
From: "Justin Frank Wimpey"
Subject: Re: 1975 F-100 4x4

> > That would work quite nicely.... But the 428 has much more power potential.
>

Stock it has more compression, and a great deal more aftermarket high
performance pieces for it than the 460.
The 460 is definitely bigger (and better as a stock engine) but the 428 leaves
you with more options for later IMHO....

- --
Justin Wimpey North Carolina State University
333 Maywood Ave. FSAE Engine Development, SAE Publicity Chairman
Raleigh, N.C. 27603 jfwimpey eos.ncsu.edu
(919) 821-0776 86 GTi, 76 RD400C, 95 CB1000

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:06:04 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 1975 F-100 4x4

i could be mistaken, but i know of nothing available for a 428 that does
not have an equal part available for the 460. and isn't the 427 a "better"
performance motor than the 428?

sleddog

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From: Justin Frank Wimpey[SMTP:jfwimpey eos.ncsu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 7:44 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: 1975 F-100 4x4


> > That would work quite nicely.... But the 428 has much more power
potential.
>

Stock it has more compression, and a great deal more aftermarket high
performance pieces for it than the 460.
The 460 is definitely bigger (and better as a stock engine) but the 428
leaves
you with more options for later IMHO....

- --
Justin Wimpey North Carolina State University
333 Maywood Ave. FSAE Engine Development, SAE Publicity
Chairman
Raleigh, N.C. 27603 jfwimpey eos.ncsu.edu
(919) 821-0776 86 GTi, 76 RD400C, 95 CB1000






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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:35:36 +0100
From: "Tim Baker"
Subject: 4 wheel disk Help 56 F100

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:55:01 -0600
From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: Re: Boxing the Frame

I have been struggling with finding a bellhousing to mate the T98 to ANY
motor that was in production after the Y blocks went out.
Please let me know

Jim

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> From: Vogt Family
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Boxing the Frame
> Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 5:35 PM
>
> Before I install a 429 or some other ridiculously huge motor in my 61
> F-100 4x4, my teacher suggested I box the frame between the two forward
> most cross members. He said that it was probably not necessary even to
> go as far as the cross members but that boxing about a foot to the front
> and rear of the motor mounts should be sufficient. He suggested using a
> piece of plate cut to fit inside the frame channel, welded to form a
> box. This truck currently has a 223 six cylinder that attaches the front
> motor mounts near the radiator and there are no provisions for V8 motor
> mounts that I can see other than a few bolt holes.
>
> Do you have any suggestions or is this way the best?
>
> Also, will I be able to find a bellhousing to match a 429 to the T98?
>
> Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:28:22 -0400
From: sbest
Subject: Re: 1967 f100 snow/ice

>From: Ractrk002
>
>I'm considering putting snow tires on the 15x7 wheels I have the 255's on for
>next winter and then getting a set of 15x8's and fatter tires for those warm
>days. Probably would swap them out on those warmer and dry winter days
>though.

There is no doubt about it that tall and skinney is better in snow.
Did you see that BFG has an All/Terrain in 9.50"x 33" R15?

Should be a great snowtire with the height and that pattern, yet clear
old fenders well being so slim. Anyone tried it?


Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
6.9 litre diesel Ford van, full-time 4 wheel drive
"Hang on kids, we're going through..."
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
Tire chains, camping gear, tools and first aid stuff too...

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:17:57 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Pigeon Forge show

It's official, Ford Truck Enthusiasts will have a booth at the
20th Annual F100 Nationals in Pigeon Forge, Tenn! Show dates
are (this is from the promoter himself, there have been
conflicting dates mentioned): May 14-17 (Thursday through
Sunday). We may have the booth space as early as Thursday
morning but it may not get set up until the afternoon (paying
vendors get moved in and setup first). We plan to have the
booth up the entire weekend.

We plan to give out brochures and sell the window stickers
there. I need to get some volunteers to man the booth a couple
of hours each so I don't spend the entire show sitting in a
chair..... I really want to get a chance to look at some of the
trucks! Even taking a 30 minute session would be great so I
could make bathroom runs!

Concerning a Ford Truck Enthusiasts picnic, the entire town
is booked solid. We'll have to informally arrange a time
and place to meet for dinner while at the show.

If you need show information, check out the event guide on the
web site. Looking forward to meeting many of the list members
there. Perhaps the west coast members could arrange to meet at
a west coast show?

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:02:02 -0600
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: Re: Custom Classic Trucks

Anybody see a Custom Classic Truck mag lately? I had a subscription, but haven't
received anthing in a while. I also have gone out to the mag stands and there is
not a copy to be seen. Has something happened to this mag?

- -=DENNIS=-

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:11:48 -0600
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Sealer

My supervisor is the local resident expert on Harley's and he mentioned something
that they use on the gas tanks of the motorcycles that would seem to work on our
trucks, especially older ones. He claims its the best.

Its a product called KREAM. Its a three part process, but to make this short your
tank's interior is cleaned with an acid, and eventually sealed with a liquid that
places an gasoline impurvious coating inside the tank. The only draw back is that
you must remove the tank from the vehicle to do this. He claims it seals even pin
holes and poor seam welds.

Anyway, have any of you guys on this list who own Harley's tried this product? I
could see where it would come in handy for some of the more classic trucks that
finding a replacement tank for could be difficult.

- -=DENNIS=-

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:12:29 EST
From: Ractrk002
Subject: Re: 1967 f100 snow/ice

I figured once how big I could fit under the stock fenders with out them
sticking out or rubbing anywhere. I'm shure those A/Ts would work though

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:21:21 -0600
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: Re: '66 power steering parts....

Did somebody, several digests back say they had some power sterring parts for a '66
F-100? I meant to respond, but I can't find the message. Contact me if you still
have them.

- -=DENNIS=-

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:21:24 EST
From: Ractrk002
Subject: Gas Tanks

I have a 69 F100 with the tank behind the seat still and want to put it
somewhere else. I don't want to cut holes in the bed sides for the filler
though. If any one has and suggestions let me know. Also If anyone knows
where I could get my hands on a 67-72 F100 2wd short box I want to buy one.



JT
69 F100 2wd w/302 T-18 (soon to be Hi-Po 289 & C4)
Colorado

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:47:19 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 1975 F-100 4x4

Justin Frank Wimpey wrote:
>
> > > That would work quite nicely.... But the 428 has much more power potential.
> >
>
> Stock it has more compression, and a great deal more aftermarket high
> performance pieces for it than the 460.
>

I don't know? 11:1 with stock wrecking yard parts seems pretty high to me!

Dana

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:48:21 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 1975 F-100 4x4

Sleddog.....You da man!!!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 00:01:59 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Custom Classic Trucks

At 10:02 PM 4/1/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Anybody see a Custom Classic Truck mag lately? I had a subscription, but haven't
>received anthing in a while. I also have gone out to the mag stands and there is
>not a copy to be seen. Has something happened to this mag?
>
>-=DENNIS=-
>

I just picked up an issue 3 days ago.

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:10:54 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 4 wheel disk Help 56 F100

> Tim Baker wrote:
>
> Hello I was wandering if any of you know if I need to run residual pressure
> valves on a 4 wheel disk setup---I am using a corvette master cylinder--I have
> been told I don't need one and that I need to run 2lb in both the front and
> rear circuits. Your help is appreciated.



My experience with 4 wheel disk is that no residual pressure valves are
required. In fact when using a disk /drum type master cylinder you need to
remove the residual pressure valve from the port. The way disk brakes work is
that they are always in contact with the disk to some extent there are usually
no return springs that are strong enough to push the piston into the caliper.....

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