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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, March 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 190



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In this issue:

Re: 1967 f100 [Ken Payne ]
Screen Stupidity ["Robert Harris" ]
Re: Screen Stupidity ["Deacon" ]
Re: Screen stupidity [sdelanty ]
Re: R12 to R134a [davehall uts.cc.utexas.edu]
Re: Screen Stupidity [Garr&Pam ]
Re: Screen Stupidity [George Herpich ]
Re: Screen Stupidity [Don Grossman ]
Re: Screen Stupidity [John MacNamara ]
Re: My 302 [Ractrk002 ]
Re: Screen Stupidity [Don Grossman ]
Bed time (floor replacement) [sdelanty ]
RE: 1967 f100 [DC Beatty ]
FE flywheel and crank [DC Beatty ]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) [Joe DeLaurentis ]
Re: 1967 f100 [Ractrk002 ]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: R12 to R134a [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 1967 f100 snow/ice [wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) [sdelanty ]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) [sdelanty ]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) [Don Grossman ]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) [Steve & Rockette ]
WAS OOP's> Now Swap Meet PIR ["Chris Samuel" ]
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) [sdelanty ]
Re:Was: OOPS! Was: Cleaning out shop... Now Hood scoop [Thomas Hogan
Re: Bed time (floor replacement) ["Deacon" ]

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:26:15 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: 1967 f100

At 10:26 PM 3/28/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm almost 16, and as a reader of this forum[my dad owns the '65 F250 4x4],
>reading about all the trucks people are enjoying, and driving my dad's
>truck, it makes me want to fix up my own truck. The main problem is rust;
>the front floor pans, the cab mounts, cab crossmember, and it also has some
>rust in the cab corners, aside from that, it is pretty much rust free. It is
>a '67 F-100. It was originally a 240I6/3-spd 2WD. It now sports a 390/C-6,
>courtesy of a '69 Galaxie. It still has the original suspension and brakes
>that are, aside from the front suspension, worn out from years of work. My
>questions are:
>About how much would it cost to fix this properly, and how were the
>floorpans of these trucks originally put together?
>With the 3.73 gears and the 390, this truck can accelerate with a Z28, but
>it has terrible economy and top speed. What gears would be a good
>compromise between acceleration and highway cruising and fuel economy?

3.25, depending on tire size.

>Also
>when my dad had to drive this truck in the snow and ice, he said it was
>awful. Any suggestions on how to help this and traction when driving on the
>street would be greatly appreciated.

Can't help with this.... live in the warm South.

>Since it was a 240, it has the small drums and small springs, it doesn't
>drive or stop right. I would like to put front discs and springs about like
>on a big-block truck. What parts would be needed to do this?

Article, with parts list and full details, is on the web site.
www.ford-trucks.com

>I also am curious about this trucks history. It has absolutely no options.
>How many were built like this?
>

Anyone here still have the production numbers I posted? I've
lost them.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:48:42 -0800
From: "Robert Harris"
Subject: Screen Stupidity

Letz zee heeer, you got no respect for a man who has contributed a lifetime
of achievement at the big ovals including the brickyard, a man who has built
and influenced engines and cars even to this day, who has helped more Sunday
Afternoon races than you've been alive to witness. Guess that rules out us
respecting anyone who has ever endorsed any product ever - right? Because
they are no longer pure or some other drivel? Reality check - bills need to
be paid, and endorsement money pays bills - for racing and for other things.
Give me a reason why I should respect YOU??? Who da explecitive deleted do
you imagine yourself to be?

Simple, gullible you believes something because its in a catalogue?? Summit
also sell Split-fire plugs and repeats their claims - even after Splitfire
lost a truth in advertising lawsuit and were forced to say in public their
plugs didn't do squat.

And a deliberate restriction works to make more low end power? Hey, dipwad,
does that mean if I stuff a potato in my tail pipe, I'll really make power?
Darn - that means the millions we all have spent on free flowing mufflers
and headers has been in vain, cause HARRY says that more restriction makes
more power for our trucks? Speed secret here kiddies - pull the choke on
and get more torque - it richens the mixture and puts more restriction in
the intake too!!! waad da heck - pull off dat four barrel and go down and
get a single throat off a falcon 6 - it'll really make low end torque -
breathing thru a pea hole.

BTW, I'll stack Heywood, Grumpy, Smokey, Vizard etc. against Car Craft, Hot
Stuff, Harry and whatever any day. They don't advertise on page 97 what
they review in chapter four - but magazines would never huckster for their
advertisers would they?

The moral of this - simple. If you haven't seen it used and unless its as
new as the latest white house bimbo story, there is probably a reason - and
generally its because it doesn't work.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:33:02 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Screen Stupidity

>Simple, gullible you believes something because its in a catalogue??
Summit
>also sell Split-fire plugs and repeats their claims - even after
Splitfire
>lost a truth in advertising lawsuit and were forced to say in public
their
>plugs didn't do squat.

You know Robert, if it wasn't for people like you, many of us would
be throwing our money away on these bogus products believing there was a
law prohibiting faults advertising. Where are the limits? I'll tell my
point of view, the less you make the high the limits!
To this day there are splitfire adds claiming they produce more
power, etc, etc, etc! There's a market because the advertisers create
the market through blatant false claims of the advantages of the
products they represent. Elves don't make cookies and a green giant
don't pick no corn. They can say Juan hand picks every coffee bean
because a reasonable person knows it's impossible. What about the people
that throw common knowledge out the window and spend $10 for a sparkplug
because they read in Hot Rod magazine they are the best power for the
buck thing you can do for your car!


>The moral of this - simple. If you haven't seen it used and unless its
as
>new as the latest white house bimbo story, there is probably a reason -
and
>generally its because it doesn't work.

Thank you Robert! People want to believe in something so they will
buy solar water heaters, Kerbie vacuum cleaners and World Book
encyclopedias till the day they die and no matter how screwed they know
they are, they will tell their friends and everyone that will listen,
how foolish they are if they don't go get the same pig in a poke they
did!

By the way, do you have term life insurance? Well Robert, I got into A.
L. Williams just to help my friends,,, :)

Thanks for the enlightenment my friend. Sometimes a point needs to
be driven home. Thank God for people with the ballarios to tell it like
it is!
Later!

Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:21:50 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Screen stupidity

> Elves don't make cookies and a green giant
>don't pick no corn.

Now Deacon, that's darned lie and You know it! Elves *are* too
making the cookies! There's a picture of 'em right on the package.
I want cookies made by elves, doggone it!
Next thing You'll be telling me the Easter bunny ain't real..

Uh ohh, needs FTC. Ummm, how many bushels of corn can an F100 carry?
How about if the green giant is driving?


Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:52:06 -0500
From: davehall uts.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: R12 to R134a

>Does anyone have ACTUAL experience with either the store bought retrofit kits
>or
>having it retrofit by a shop?
>
>Let me know your experiences.
>
>I need to pull my AC and it seems to be less expensive to convert then to buy
>R12.
>
>Dana

Dana,

I converted a 1972 Sears AC from R12 to R134 last summer. I had the entire
AC sitting in a box and so it was already empty. You will need to get your
system evacuated at a shop. To make a long story short here's what I did:

1. Flushed condensor and evaporator with AC flush and compressed air. You
need to remove as much of the old oil as possible (98-99% I was told). For
this reason, I repeated this step several times.
2. The AC flush tells you not to use it to flush out the compressor so I
didn't. Instead, I used AC oil that was compatible with both R12 and R134
systems as a substitute for using the flush. I put some oild in one side
of the compressor and blew it through using compressed air. I turned the
compressor by hand several times while doing this.
3. Replaced hoses (this is not a necessary step, but my hoses were 25
years old and quite worn).
4. Removed valve stem from low side valve on compressor and then screwed
on retrofit intake which contains a new valve. If you do not remove the
old valve stem, the new intake will not seat correctly and system will
leak. (I did not do anything to the high side).
5. Installed everything, filled system with R134 (from JC Whitney since I
cannot buy R134 in Austin) and an oil charge.


I have not had a problem since I put it back together (6 months or so).
When I was getting ready to begin I called around trying to find some-one
who could give me some advice. I finally found a good AC shop who were
willing to talk to me about the retrofit (I had them make my hoses). One
thing that they said was that if my evaporator had two tubes (intake tube
splits right as it enters the evaporator) then R134 would work okay. With
only a single tube in the evaporator they said that it would not get cold
enough and was not worth retrofitting. My evaporator had two tubes and it
does keep the truck cold.

Note that I had no O-rings anywhere in my system so did not need to replace
any of those.

Total cost with hoses and R134 was about $110, which is less than shops
around here charge just to switch you over without replacing hoses.


Dave


'69 F100, 390, MSD blaster ignition, 2WD
Front disk brakes (thanks Ken Payne)
'72 Sears AC, retrofitted to R134

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:52:38 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: Screen Stupidity

Robert Harris wrote:
>
> Letz zee heeer, you got no respect for a man who has contributed a lifetime
> of achievement at the big ovals including the brickyard, a man who has built
> and influenced engines and cars even to this day, who has helped more Sunday
> Afternoon races than you've been alive to witness. Guess that rules out us
> respecting anyone who has ever endorsed any product ever - right? Because
> they are no longer pure or some other drivel? Reality check - bills need to
> be paid, and endorsement money pays bills - for racing and for other things.
> Give me a reason why I should respect YOU??? Who da explecitive deleted do
> you imagine yourself to be?
>
> Simple, gullible you believes something because its in a catalogue?? Summit
> also sell Split-fire plugs and repeats their claims - even after Splitfire
> lost a truth in advertising lawsuit and were forced to say in public their
> plugs didn't do squat.
>
> And a deliberate restriction works to make more low end power? Hey, dipwad,
> does that mean if I stuff a potato in my tail pipe, I'll really make power?
> Darn - that means the millions we all have spent on free flowing mufflers
> and headers has been in vain, cause HARRY says that more restriction makes
> more power for our trucks? Speed secret here kiddies - pull the choke on
> and get more torque - it richens the mixture and puts more restriction in
> the intake too!!! waad da heck - pull off dat four barrel and go down and
> get a single throat off a falcon 6 - it'll really make low end torque -
> breathing thru a pea hole.
>
> BTW, I'll stack Heywood, Grumpy, Smokey, Vizard etc. against Car Craft, Hot
> Stuff, Harry and whatever any day. They don't advertise on page 97 what
> they review in chapter four - but magazines would never huckster for their
> advertisers would they?
>
> The moral of this - simple. If you haven't seen it used and unless its as
> new as the latest white house bimbo story, there is probably a reason - and
> generally its because it doesn't work.
>
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WELL SAID!

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:39:24 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: Screen Stupidity

Well said but I would like to add something to the magazine comment. Not only do
they suck up to their advertisers but they give bad information and make
mistakes constantly along with just plain bad advice. Especially when it comes
to Ford products, which none of them know anything about. Even the Ford specific
books are full of chevy or ex chevy men and most are writers and not mechanics
anyway.
Advice to everyone........don't ever do anything a magazine says to do without
thoroughly checking it out with qualified people and get a couple of opinions on
the subject. Then you can go with whatever makes the most sense to you or who
you trust most.

George

Robert Harris wrote:

> Letz zee heeer, you got no respect for a man who has contributed a lifetime
> of achievement at the big ovals including the brickyard, a man who has built
> and influenced engines and cars even to this day, who has helped more Sunday
> Afternoon races than you've been alive to witness. Guess that rules out us
> respecting anyone who has ever endorsed any product ever - right? Because
> they are no longer pure or some other drivel? Reality check - bills need to
> be paid, and endorsement money pays bills - for racing and for other things.
> Give me a reason why I should respect YOU??? Who da explecitive deleted do
> you imagine yourself to be?
>
> Simple, gullible you believes something because its in a catalogue?? Summit
> also sell Split-fire plugs and repeats their claims - even after Splitfire
> lost a truth in advertising lawsuit and were forced to say in public their
> plugs didn't do squat.
>
> And a deliberate restriction works to make more low end power? Hey, dipwad,
> does that mean if I stuff a potato in my tail pipe, I'll really make power?
> Darn - that means the millions we all have spent on free flowing mufflers
> and headers has been in vain, cause HARRY says that more restriction makes
> more power for our trucks? Speed secret here kiddies - pull the choke on
> and get more torque - it richens the mixture and puts more restriction in
> the intake too!!! waad da heck - pull off dat four barrel and go down and
> get a single throat off a falcon 6 - it'll really make low end torque -
> breathing thru a pea hole.
>
> BTW, I'll stack Heywood, Grumpy, Smokey, Vizard etc. against Car Craft, Hot
> Stuff, Harry and whatever any day. They don't advertise on page 97 what
> they review in chapter four - but magazines would never huckster for their
> advertisers would they?
>
> The moral of this - simple. If you haven't seen it used and unless its as
> new as the latest white house bimbo story, there is probably a reason - and
> generally its because it doesn't work.
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, |
> | List removal information is on the web site. |
> +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:03:36 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Screen Stupidity

What started this thread anywho?

It's Sunday and I am a little slow.

Bye for now

Don Grossman

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:22:56 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Screen Stupidity

Don Grossman wrote:
>
> What started this thread anywho?

I must confess it was me. I think it's been analyzed and beaten to
death. So much for Summit marketing.

Molater
John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab Lariat XLT

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:34:15 EST
From: Ractrk002
Subject: Re: My 302

The 302 is all original

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:15:08 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Screen Stupidity

John MacNamara wrote:

> Don Grossman wrote:
> >
> > What started this thread anywho?
>
> I must confess it was me. I think it's been analyzed and beaten to
> death. So much for Summit marketing.
>
> Molater
> John
>

I was going to call Summit and order some parts on Monday. Should I skip
it? ;)


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http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://206.184.7.89
ftp://206.184.7.89/fordtrucks/starthere/
duckdon pacific.net

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear most of the trimmings.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:25:19 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Bed time (floor replacement)

Well, I spent all morning with the weed-eater mowing down the
jungle around the house so the tigers and jackals will have less
places to hide. (They're dangerous in the spring when they're
protecting their young!)
I was plenty tired when I was done so I laid down under the bed
of the truck for a while... It's real nice under there, with a
great veiw of the sky thru the holes in the floor.
The floor... Sigh. It's a '71 F100 flairside, with the wood plank
floor in the bed. Well, it used to be wood plank, now even the
termites are embarassed to be seen in it.
I keep a piece of plywood over it so things smaller than Your
head can't fall thru...

So, this spring I'm gonna replace the lumber with some nice oak planks
all milled up like the origionals, with stainless steel flatbar to
replace the beat up origional steel divider strips.
My questions are these:

How heavy is the bed? Once it's unbolted can 2 people pick it and
move it, or do I need to buy a 12 pack and invite more friends?
It looks kind of awkward and "floppy", just 3 sides and a tailgate...
Any good advise, tips, warnings, etc, on removing/replacing the bed?

What should I do to protect the oak? I'm undecided whether to paint
the wood with a plastic "Varathane" type coating, or to just use some
kind of oil on the wood to waterproof it.
Anyone got some thoughts for me on this one?

Surely someone out there has replaced the bed floor in their truck and
has some words of wisdom for me...

All thoughts welcome, thanks!


Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:20:30 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: 1967 f100

Billy Wrote:
>Also
>when my dad had to drive this truck in the snow and ice, he said it was
>awful. Any suggestions on how to help this and traction when driving on=

the
>street would be greatly appreciated.

Keep a shovel in the back and shovel snow into it. I mean tons of it. The=
n
drive slow 'cause it still wants to slip, just not as much. I also keep
about 250lbs. of sandbags in the back during the winter months. Keep good=

tread under it too. =


You guys in the South have it made. I gotta move down there. =


>The main problem is rust;
>the front floor pans, the cab mounts, cab crossmember, and it also has
some
>rust in the cab corners, aside from that, it is pretty much rust free.

Egad. That's pretty much sounds like the whole truck. If the floorpan is
too rusted there is nothing substantial to attach the new cab mounts that=

you are going to need to. I've seen them so bad that the only real fix is=

an entire new cab. =


Good luck,

Drew Beatty
1967 F100 352
1974 Maverick 302

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:20:32 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: FE flywheel and crank

Does anybody know if there is a way to visually distinguish between an ir=
on
crank and a steel one? =


Also, I know this has been covered before so forgive me for asking again.=

The 390 I got has a chewed up flywheel. Is there any difference between i=
t
(weight, balancing, etc.) and the one off my 352? I guess technically the=
y
are flex plates as they go to an automatic. =



Thanks in advance for any help,

Drew Beatty
1967 F100 352
1974 Maverick 302

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:34:22 -0500
From: Joe DeLaurentis
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)

Your gonna need more then a 12 pack :)
Joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:59:38 EST
From: Ractrk002
Subject: Re: 1967 f100

I don't put anything in my truck, it gets stuck or slides just as much
regardless. A good set of treads do help though ,those now bald 255/70's on
my truck use to grab pretty good.


69 F100 2wd w/302 T18 soon to be built 289 C4 2500stall

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:09:57 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)

As far as treating oak for outside use, you might consider spar varnish.
I'ts made to be flexible, since the oak will expand and contract more
outside. Used in marine applications, like tillers.
Also, you might consider teakwood. It isn't that much more expensive.
Used for decks on boats. Teak has
a naturally high oil content and doesn't even need treating. Holds up for
many years and is hard and durable.
Beautiful, too.

Mike



redden enter.net

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:10:37 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: R12 to R134a

Thanks Dave!

Dana

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:34:04 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)

Check with the pre 61 folks on the other list.
I am a little foggy about my 56 but I usually didn't have ANY help when doing
things to it. I have had the bed off a few times and maybe my Dad helped but
that would have been it. I even think I removed it solo once.
Put rear axle on stands, removed the rear tires, unbolted the bed, slid it back
off the frame, tipped it down on to the ground, then up on it's tailgate end.
The bed was very rough so I didn't use much in the way of protection, but some
moving blankets would probably work fine.

Something to consider is that the metal runners were higher then the wood to
help keep the wood from getting messed up. I am not saying that you should do
this but if you plan on using it like a truck give it some thought.

Dana

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 02:37:26 GMT
From: wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)
Subject: Re: 1967 f100 snow/ice

On Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:59:38 EST, you wrote:

>I don't put anything in my truck, it gets stuck or slides just as much
>regardless. A good set of treads do help though ,those now bald =
255/70's on
>my truck use to grab pretty good.
>
I've got a set of studded snow tires on my '71 F100 (2X4) they help a =
lot,
but I still need a light touch on the throttle.

Rob Patelke
Sheridan WY

'71 F100, 360 4Spd
'78 F250, 4X4 400 C6=20

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:45:38 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)

>As far as treating oak for outside use, you might consider spar varnish.
>I'ts made to be flexible, since the oak will expand and contract more
>outside. Used in marine applications, like tillers.
>Also, you might consider teakwood. It isn't that much more expensive.
>Used for decks on boats. Teak has
>a naturally high oil content and doesn't even need treating. Holds up for
>many years and is hard and durable.
>Beautiful, too.
>
>Mike

Mmmm, the teak sounds deluxe but I've already got some nice oak, all
milled and ready to go except for trim to length and preserve with
something.
I fixed an old lathe for a guy that has a nice woodshop and that was
my payment... (-:

Thanks,

Steve

Only those who will risk going too far can
possibly find out how far one can go.
-- T. S. Eliot

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:45:41 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)

> I even think I removed it solo once.
>Put rear axle on stands, removed the rear tires, unbolted the bed, slid it back
>off the frame, tipped it down on to the ground, then up on it's tailgate end.
>The bed was very rough so I didn't use much in the way of protection, but some
>moving blankets would probably work fine.

Ahh, good! That's the answer I hoped for. I hadn't even thought about
removing the wheels and just sliding it off. I just figured 2 or more
guys would have to pick it up...

>Something to consider is that the metal runners were higher then the wood to
>help keep the wood from getting messed up. I am not saying that you should do
>this but if you plan on using it like a truck give it some thought.
>
>Dana

Yep, my runners will be about 1/16" higher than the wood.

Thanks,

Steve

Only those who will risk going too far can
possibly find out how far one can go.
-- T. S. Eliot

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:55:33 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)

Steve

Two people can handle the bed fine if you want to remove it. This will
turn into a small project in it self. On the 77 bed that I took apart
it was plywood with the slots for the bed strips cut out. Kind of a
cheap way to go. My bed is in good shape for now but if I ever have to
replace the wood I might go with aluminum.

The bad part is getting all the rusty bolts off. :(


- --
Don Grossman
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://206.184.7.89
ftp://206.184.7.89/files

duckdon pacific.net

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:59:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)

At 04:25 PM 29/3/98 -0800, you wrote:

> What should I do to protect the oak? I'm undecided whether to paint
> the wood with a plastic "Varathane" type coating, or to just use some
> kind of oil on the wood to waterproof it.
> Anyone got some thoughts for me on this one?
>

One trick I've used in the past is a sheet of 3/4" oak skinned plywood,
mounted stainless strips on it to hide the screws I used to fasten the
plywood to the box frame, then Tung oiled the hell out of it, lasted a
couple of years, cost about $50. Cheap and looked good......


Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:20:17 -0800
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: WAS OOP's> Now Swap Meet PIR

From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: Cleaning out shop...

SNIP

Are you going to the swap meet at PIR next weekend????


I kind-a doubt it, though I would like to.
Caught a cold from someone on this list, so much for Anti-Virus programs.
Laid me out for the last week, which didn't get anything done.
So now I have to get other people's projects back on to the original time
line.
How come the customers not only always right, but their toys/projects come
first!??

Later
Chris
79 Bronco

FTC
Anyone used a hydraulic throw-out* on a T-18?
*Replaces all of the clutch linkage with a hydraulic unit inside the
B/housing.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:35:12 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Bed time (floor replacement)


>
>The bad part is getting all the rusty bolts off. :(

Naw, I've got a die grinder and some cutoff wheels... (:


Steve

Only those who will risk going too far can
possibly find out how far one can go.
-- T. S. Eliot

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:29:25 -0800
From: Thomas Hogan
Subject: Re:Was: OOPS! Was: Cleaning out shop... Now Hood scoop

Chris,
Boy talk about a matter of personal taste!! Two ideas-- I have seen in
a magazine where someone grafted a scoop from the hood of a mid 70s Gran
Torino (Ala Starsky and Hutch) onto the hood of a mid 70 pickup, same
lines as your Bronco. The other idea would be to fabricate a NACA style
scoop ala 73 Mach 1 Mustang. You didn't mention if you wanted the scoop
to be for show or for go.

Tom H.



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FTC:
So What is the best looking Hood Scoop for my Bronco? Anyone?

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