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fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, March 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 186

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In this issue:

Re: FE water pump [George Herpich ]
Re: Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ??? [George Herpich
Re: Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ??? ["Deacon" ]
RE: Question for 68 Owners [tfmf211

murphyfarms.com]
Fused headlamps [am14

chrysler.com]
RE: Intake manifold cooling, FTV2 #178 [Sleddog ]
16" Wheels [am14

chrysler.com]
Low beams on with hi beams [am14

chrysler.com]
Ban? ["Dave Resch" ]
Re: Ban? [Stu Varner ]
Re: percolating carb [sdelanty ]
Re: Atomization [sdelanty ]
Re: percolating carb [John MacNamara ]
Re: Atomization ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: percolating carb ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Whiter whites ["Hogan, Tom" ]
Re: Ban? ["Deacon" ]
Re: Yay Ken. was screen intake gaskets ["Bill Beyer"
Re: 2100/2150 carbs ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: screen intake gaskets ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: Engine theory [ballingr

ldd.net (WILLIAM L BALLINGER)]
Re: Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ??? [George Herpich
Re: Fused headlamps [George Herpich ]
76 F-250 4x4 Hubs [BDIJXS ]
Re: 2100/2150 carbs ["Deacon" ]
Re: Whiter whites [sdelanty ]
Question for 68 Owners, FTV2 #184 [Alan Mittelstaedt / Chad Dailey
Yay Ken. was screen intake gaskets, FT V2 #185 [Alan Mittelstaedt / Chad ]

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:07:52 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: FE water pump

Bill Beyer wrote:

> FARs (Ford Authorized Remanufacturers) are not all alike. I've been working
> in & around dealers since 1982 and the quality of FARs varies from one part
> of the country to another. I know several dealers who have petitioned
> FoMoCo to dump their FAR because of the poor quality of the rebuilds they
> get. Best way to tell is call your local Ford dealership and ask the
> service manager if the FAR he's using takes care of him.

That makes sense. I have run into more than one person who hasn't heard of fred
jones. I had been under the impression that he did all the remanufactuing.As a
mechanic for a fleet of dump trucks years ago we used Ford dealers almost
exclusively for parts. Mainly because we got cost +5 on most everything(that
was especially good for me and my personal endeavors). We used his long blocks
on all gas trucks, 361,391,477 and 534 , and I can recall only one bad one out
of the 75 or so I used. Water pumps were very good and even rebuilt carburetors
almost always good. We always bought standard bore long blocks. The 391's in
the tandem dumps only lasted about 30k but that's about all you got out of a
new one.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:41:49 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ???

> george, Thanks for the insght, I learn something new more than once per day.
> Keep up the informative help. I think a true "Galaxie" type toploader in a
> truck (2 wheel drive) would be a neat way of getting a 4 speed and an FE.
> What do you think?
> Just gathering ideas for the next project! Can't start too soon. Can I?
> Stu
>

It would be a great trans to use. Look for the wide ratio. Call Dan Williams for
more than you ever wanted to know about toploaders. I did a quick look for his
number with no luck. He advertises in the Mustang books a lot.George

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:27:31 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ???

From: George Herpich
>It would be a great trans to use. Look for the wide ratio. Call Dan
Williams for
>more than you ever wanted to know about toploaders. I did a quick look
for his
>number with no luck. He advertises in the Mustang books a lot.George

I did a Web search and came up with this. Is this the same Dan Williams
your talking about?

Dan Williams Toploader toploader parts Franklin NC
704-524-9085 704-524-4848 fax

Deacon Blues deconblu

murphyfarms.com
Subject: RE: Question for 68 Owners

Joe writes..
>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:52:46 -0500
>From: Joe DeLaurentis
>Subject: Question for 68 Owners
>
>Question for all the 68 owners...WE have a debate on where the rearview
>mirror was mounted in 68..Some say the windshield other on the visor
>mount like the 67's????
>I would like to here from the other 68 owners
>- --
>Joe
>Aka. Fordguy
>1968 F-100 4x4 302 Np435 Bone Stock down to the wheel covers
>1970 F-250 4x4 390 Np435 The Beast
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://web.p3.net/~shoman

I have a '68 Ranger and mine is mounted on the windshield.

-Ted

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:20:10 -0500
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: Fused headlamps

Steve writes: >>There's one fuse for high beam and one for
low beam, so if one burns out You're not totally blind.

I think the Original wiring on headlamps were not fused for a reason.
Seems there was a thermally operated circuit breaker type relay that
resets rather quickly and this was to keep from leaving you in the dark
doing 70MPH down the country road you aren't all that familiar with.
Point is ;; Are you sure you want to fuse your headlamps???? I would
rather have the circuit breaker, I think

JMHO

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:27:46 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Intake manifold cooling, FTV2 #178

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From: Alan Mittelstaedt / Chad Dailey[SMTP:am33009

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Subject: Intake manifold cooling, FTV2 #178

Here I am, late again...

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:56:02 -0500
> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Intake manifold cooling, FT V2 #175
>
> that is one concern i have, and the floor is not mirror smooth, but not
too rough either. no grooves in it like stock intakes.

Is it a pretty much open plenum? Could you build up the floor a bit to
slope at the runners (like a little pyramid in the middle) and then use
a carb spacer to make up for the lost plenum volume? My thought is to
reduce the area of port floor that is perpendicular to the air column,
keeping velocity more constant through the cross-section of the plenum.
That would get rid of the lazy area of the plenum, would it not? Hence,
keep the fuel in somewhat better suspension? Just my SWAG.
- --
open plenum, only a small portion perpendicular to air flow. i will be
using carb spacer anyway, most likely a 2" maybe 4" if it fits underhood.

also, this intake spent so much time on the flow bench getting resaerched,
that i hessitate to change it, as i have no resources for furthur testing.

> mixture qualty is something that may be hard to control anyway, and even
harder if too cold. but, how cool would it get? i wonder?

Does the manifold have an open valley? You might try packing it with
dry ice under / around the runners. That ought to get it mighty cold.
If you did this I'd *heat* the fuel so it'd vaporize better, but richen
up the mix for the very cold air it would be getting. I think it would
be very difficult to tune, as the air mass would be changing density as
it entered the manifold, to who knows what delta from ambient.

- ---
no, no open valley. too bad, as i was initially going to use the victor
intake that has an open vally and pack the ice there. but, this intake is
better than i could have done with the victor as far as its current
ability. my carb is too small as is, so i will need a bigger one when i
get the funds after i get the engine together into the truck. so, cooling
the intake too much i may find the carb cannot supply the air. what i
really need is consistant intake temps i think, more than just a really
cold intake.

Chad

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:24:22 -0500
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: 16" Wheels

Jim writes:>> Does anybody have a clue where these 6 lug, 7 3/4"
'offset' wheels can be found 16" diameter. I would be nice to have the
same size wheels.

I purchased two new ones about a year ago at Minor tire in Decatur,
Al. Any Major tire/wheel store should be able to get them for your
specific application. I bought mine new because the salvage yard
wanted the same price as new for some rather well used ones. They
looked straight but I couldn't see paying the same for old as new. Let
the store see/measure one of the 4 you have that you want 2 more like
and order them. I gave $50 ea for mine. (solid - not split rim)

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:48:28 -0500
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: Low beams on with hi beams

Serian writes: >>... capacitors block DC current
but allow AC current. Use a diode capable of taking quite a bit of
current ... perhaps one rated 24V/35A or so to be absolutely certain
that it stays cool under stress.

Serian is correct in his assement of the capacitor blocking DC and to
use the Heavy diode, but IMHO a relay in parallell with the hi beams to
operate the lo beams would be a better way.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:54:44 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Ban?

>From: Stu Varner
>Subject: Re: 2100/2150 carbs
>
>that is until it doesn't do squat on your whimpy modified
>engine that is on a breathing apparatus , ie Life support
>(emissions control, smog police) he he he
>I told you I would deal with the FE bashing!! Smile Daver!
>;O)
>
>Stu
>Ban Nukes!

Hmmm...
I'm not sure I like this "kinder, gentler" Stu:-).

Dave R. (M-block devotee)
Bash... er... Ban GM!

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:12:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: Ban?

At 10:54 AM 3/27/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>From: Stu Varner
>>Subject: Re: 2100/2150 carbs
>>
>>that is until it doesn't do squat on your whimpy modified
>>engine that is on a breathing apparatus , ie Life support
>>(emissions control, smog police) he he he
>>I told you I would deal with the FE bashing!! Smile Daver!
>>;O)
>>
>>Stu
>>Ban Nukes!
>
>Hmmm...
>I'm not sure I like this "kinder, gentler" Stu:-).
>
>Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>Bash... er... Ban GM!
Daver my freind, (and you know you are my friend)
I think there are some who feel I am too harsh, normally I don't
give a crap what others think but I do wish to keep peace and harmony
amongst my fellow
Ford peers out of respect for Ken Payne. I am trying to settle myself down
some. Deep down in my heart, I am a GM hater, but, a fun loving person!
I never felt as though Nuke GM! was a flame toward anyone individual or
person. I just hate those suckers (GM), at least it's not a person I am
hating!!!
The ban Nukes! well, it is code........you guessed it, NUKE GM!
Remember, I will be meeting up with some of my "list" bretheren in Pigeon
Forge this May and I am trying to convey a little better image! I am NOT
your average 6th grade teacher! BTW- This weekend at Bristol, if you Ford
boys win again, they'll find something else to take away from you to make it
easier on the Chebby's!!!!!
Stu

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:41 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: percolating carb

>Don Grossman wrote:
>
>> Would an electric fuel pump help solve the problem and are they
>> reliable?

>Don: The electric fuel pump will definitely solve the vapor locking
>problem. I have been running them for over 10 years on my 460's with no
>failures. In fact my 1st 78 wouldn't run for more than 5 minutes
>without the electric fuel pump on. It was wired to a switch. Now all I
>have is an electric with no mechanical installed.
>
>Regards:
>John

Just remember that in the event of an accident where the fuel line
gets ruptured, an electric pump will continue to spew fuel until
someone turns the key off...
Some OEM's (Ford) use an inertia switch so that in an impact the pump
is shut off. You might want to score one of these from the wreckers
and install it as a safety measure.
Or You could do like I did when using an elecric on a VW and use a relay
on the oil pressure switch so that if You lose oil pressure the pump
dies. Mine was set up so the pump would run during cranking regardless
of oil pressure, but once the key returned to the "run" position it
needed oil pressure to stay running.

Just safety thoughts...

Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:44 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Atomization

>>IMHO, a screen won't make much difference. If anything, its a huge >air
>restriction.

>A restriction? Sure! But so are smaller headers. Most torque guys know
>that smaller header tube are better for low-end torque. I am sure the
>same theory applies to the screen.

But small diameter headers and/or intake ports help low end torque by
increasing the velocity of the gas flow in the tube.
A screen would just be a restrictive lump in the port!
Not at all the same thing...

>I have to wonder why they are not more popular!?

Perhaps because they don't work?

Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:58:54 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: percolating carb

sdelanty wrote:

> >Don Grossman wrote:
> >
> >> Would an electric fuel pump help solve the problem and are they
> >> reliable?
>
> >Don: The electric fuel pump will definitely solve the vapor locking
> >problem. I have been running them for over 10 years on my 460's with no
> >failures. In fact my 1st 78 wouldn't run for more than 5 minutes
> >without the electric fuel pump on. It was wired to a switch. Now all I
> >have is an electric with no mechanical installed.
> >
> >Regards:
> >John
>
> Just remember that in the event of an accident where the fuel line
> gets ruptured, an electric pump will continue to spew fuel until
> someone turns the key off...
> Some OEM's (Ford) use an inertia switch so that in an impact the pump
> is shut off. You might want to score one of these from the wreckers
> and install it as a safety measure.

Steve: Good point! However, one small thing. A friend of mine bought one
of these trucks with this switch. He loaded up truck and trailer to go
camping, the thing quit running in the middle of an intersection. Couldn't
figure out the problem as he didn't know anything about this inertia switch
and it took a tow to the dealer and all day to fix it. Actually I think a
fuse blew but it was wired in with the seat somehow and of course nearly
impossible to trouble shoot.

This is one reason I wouldn't buy any of these new fangled vehicles with
their high tech crap to save us from ourselves. Sorry for the short sermon!

> Or You could do like I did when using an elecric on a VW and use a relay
> on the oil pressure switch so that if You lose oil pressure the pump
> dies. Mine was set up so the pump would run during cranking regardless
> of oil pressure, but once the key returned to the "run" position it
> needed oil pressure to stay running.

Good idea.

Regards
John

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:00:25 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Atomization

> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:44 -0800
> From: sdelanty
> Subject: Re: Atomization

> >A restriction? Sure! But so are smaller headers. Most torque guys
> >know that smaller header tube are better for low-end torque. I am
> >sure the same theory applies to the screen.
>
> But small diameter headers and/or intake ports help low end torque
> by increasing the velocity of the gas flow in the tube. A screen
> would just be a restrictive lump in the port! Not at all the same
> thing...

Yup, I totally agree :-) The screen would have to reduce velocity at
the very point where it's needed for cylinder filling to get around
the valve. The smaller runners increase the velocity over the whole
length so it's mass carries it past the valve. If the air column
which now has momentum due to velocity and mass smashes into a
screen all the advantage of the smaller runners is essentially blown
away IMHO unless you can calculate how large to make the
port/manifold juncture to compensate for the cumulative wire
diameters of the screen and even then the bell mouth shape before and
after will drop the velocity so I don't see how you can gain much :-)

The questionable gain in atomization will be more than offset by
losses in VE due to dropped velocity of the column.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:08:46 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: percolating carb

> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:41 -0800
> From: sdelanty
> Subject: Re: percolating carb

> >Don: The electric fuel pump will definitely solve the vapor locking
> >problem. I have been running them for over 10 years on my 460's

I had vapor lock even with a pushing electric pump. The fuel boiled
at the carb entrance and only allowd fumes into the float chamber.

> Just remember that in the event of an accident where the fuel
> line
> gets ruptured, an electric pump will continue to spew fuel until
> someone turns the key off...

Insurance companies may be able to deny coverage in the event it's
not properly portecetd too. There is a relay available through auto
parts stores which screws into one of the oil gallery plugs and can
be "T"'d with the sender if none are available which shuts off when
pressure drops. I hooked up a double pole double throw toggle switch
to allow it to run for starting but find most of the time the bowl is
sufficiently full to start without turning it on. The aux tank
switch on my PU worked out to be a perfect setup for this since I
removed the side tank :-)

The reason OEM's went with the inertia system is that it is much,
much safer since the engine doesn't necessarily die in a crash.......

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:38:32 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: Re: Whiter whites

Dave,
Can you use the foot switch for flash to pass if the lights are off? It
doesn't work on my 76. The only time the foot switch does anything is
if the headlight switch in on. If your's does work for this what year
is the truck? Maybe something Ford added later. I personally like the
foot switch although I do agree it is hard to get a fast pulse of light
with it.

I despise the column mounted high beam switches. When I'm on back
roads at night I like to use the high beams for better visibility. If I
am in a turn and an oncoming car pops into view I have to let go with
one hand to turn off the high beams. With the foot switch I can keep my
hands in place and just nail the switch. The truck has an auto trans so
that foot isn't doing anything anyway.

==================================================
BTW: I rigged up a momentary switch beside the instrument cluster
(turned
on only when you push it) to turn on high beams independently of low
beams.
I use it for flash-to-pass on the highway. Since it's independent of
the
low beams, it works day or night (as long as the high beams aren't
already
on). Lets me flash a lot quicker than I could w/ the little foot
switch.
I can also use it for short periods as a low&high beam supplement,
should
the need arise.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:37:12 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Ban?

>>Hmmm...
>>I'm not sure I like this "kinder, gentler" Stu:-).
>>
>>Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>>Bash... er... Ban GM!
>Daver my freind, (and you know you are my friend)
> I think there are some who feel I am too harsh, normally I
don't
>give a crap what others think but I do wish to keep peace and harmony
>amongst my fellow

God Stu, now your making me sick! Dave R, was joking. Don't go turning
into some Brady Bunch Marsha, Marsha, Marsha! Who you trying to impress?

When we grew up and went to school
There were certain teachers who would
Hurt the children anyway they could.
By pouring their devision
Upon anything we did
And exposing every weakness
However carefully hidden by the kids.

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave the kids alone
Hey teacher leave the kids alone

All in all! :)
Later!

Deacon Blues deconblu

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> Subject: Yay Ken. was screen intake gaskets
> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 6:52 PM
>
> WOW! Ken.
>
> Make a positive statement about Carbs, AND a correct yet slightly
negative
> statement about FI in the full view of the EFI Cult.

>> Don't want to start a flame war but carbs don't have any problem
>> atomizing gas completely. The advantage of FI is the metering, not the
level
>> of atomization.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:54:22 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: 2100/2150 carbs

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> From: danadeb

pacbell.net
> To: fordtrucks61-79

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> Subject: Re: 2100/2150 carbs
> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:25 PM
>
> Remember 2V CFM is not the same as 4V CFM they are measured at different
> pressures. ( or something like that )

Pardon my ignorance but...Huh??????????????

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:04:18 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: screen intake gaskets

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> From: sbest
> To: fordtrucks61-79

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> Subject: Re: screen intake gaskets
> Date: Sunday, March 22, 1998 10:08 PM
>
> Well I tried it, I blew and there was a lot of restriction.
> "What are you doing?" My wife asked.
> "Science!" I replied.
> "Welll... don't stop then" she admonished...

You knew somebody had to go there!

Seriously it must be great to have a wife that's so supportive of your
continuing quest for knowledge ;-).

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:06:37 -0600
From: ballingr

ldd.net (WILLIAM L BALLINGER)
Subject: Re: Engine theory

Please don't misunderstand what I meant about the 289/302. Pound for pound
it is a great engine. I had a very good running 289 in a '68 Mustang with a
top-loader 4-speed. Great performance all around. But I have to stand by
what I said for normal truck use. The 300 six is better for trailering and
four-wheeling because of where the torque is, but the 302 does better at
40-70 mph cruising. It depends on what kind of work you want fron it. A few
more cubes can do both.

Ballinger
Preferred Company
ballingr

ldd.net

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:30:25 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ???

That's the one. He used to be in SW FL someplace but I knew he moved to one
of the Carolinas.

Deacon wrote:

> I did a Web search and came up with this. Is this the same Dan Williams
> your talking about?
>
> Dan Williams Toploader toploader parts Franklin NC
> 704-524-9085 704-524-4848 fax
>
> Deacon Blues deconblu

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:18:35 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: Fused headlamps

am14

chrysler.com wrote:

> Steve writes: >>There's one fuse for high beam and one for
> low beam, so if one burns out You're not totally blind.
>
> I think the Original wiring on headlamps were not fused for a reason.
> Seems there was a thermally operated circuit breaker type relay that
> resets rather quickly and this was to keep from leaving you in the dark
> doing 70MPH down the country road you aren't all that familiar with.
> Point is ;; Are you sure you want to fuse your headlamps???? I would
> rather have the circuit breaker, I think
>

The breaker is in the headlight switch.George

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:34:09 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: 76 F-250 4x4 Hubs

Just checking to see if anyone has any spare 76 F-250 4x4 front locking hubs
laying around they want to get rid of....These are the lockouts for the
"heavy-duty" hub styles....please send me a message if you've got one or two
around...

Thanks!

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:43:07 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: 2100/2150 carbs

From: Bill Beyer
Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: 2100/2150 carbs>
>
>----------
>> From: danadeb

pacbell.net
>> Subject: Re: 2100/2150 carbs
>> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:25 PM
>>
>> Remember 2V CFM is not the same as 4V CFM they are measured at
different
>> pressures. ( or something like that )
>
>Pardon my ignorance but...Huh??????????????

It's really quite simple Bill. You see, Dana's been running around
for two days now with a pair of panty hose pulled over his head giggling
his doing a scientific experiment. Not only do they restrict the ability
to blow through, but I'm afraid they also restrict his ability to
inhale. He refuses to listen to me that he is doing serious damage to
his brain. He has passed out twice today! He uses the excuse this can do
no more damage than his building models in an enclosed room with an open
tube of glue. I've also tried warning him about that. Maybe he'll listen
to you! He's killing brain cells and he should try and save both he has
left. :)

OK Dana, What in the Sam hell are you talking about! :)

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:32:09 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Whiter whites

>Dave,
>Can you use the foot switch for flash to pass if the lights are off? It
>doesn't work on my 76. The only time the foot switch does anything is
>if the headlight switch in on. If your's does work for this what year
>is the truck? Maybe something Ford added later. I personally like the
>foot switch although I do agree it is hard to get a fast pulse of light
>with it.

Now that You've brought it up, I'll probably add a pushbutton switch
from a switched hot source to the coil of my highbeam relay so I
can "flash" even when the lights are off. Good idea...

> I despise the column mounted high beam switches. When I'm on back
>roads at night I like to use the high beams for better visibility. If I
>am in a turn and an oncoming car pops into view I have to let go with
>one hand to turn off the high beams. With the foot switch I can keep my
>hands in place and just nail the switch. The truck has an auto trans so
>that foot isn't doing anything anyway.

With the manual tranny I wish I had the column mount switch. It seems
I'm always trying to grab another gear when that other car comes around
the corner. I am getting pretty good at pushing the clutch down with my
toe and stabbing the dimmer switch with my heal at the bottom of the
clutch stroke...

Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:29:25 -0800
From: Alan Mittelstaedt / Chad Dailey
Subject: Question for 68 Owners, FTV2 #184

> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:52:46 -0500
> From: Joe DeLaurentis
> Subject: Question for 68 Owners
>
> Question for all the 68 owners...WE have a debate on where the rearview
> mirror was mounted in 68..Some say the windshield other on the visor
> mount like the 67's????
> I would like to here from the other 68 owners

My '68 F-250 rearview is on the windshield. No mounting spot I can see....

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