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In this issue:

Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Sparkplug advice ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Turn signals not working [Rab Rawlins ]
Re: Turn signals not working ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dana update [John MacNamara ]
Re: Dana update ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Turn signals [sdelanty

sonic.net]
Re: A Bronco in northeastern PA ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Turn signals ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re Turn signals. ["Hogan, Tom" ]
Re Turn signals. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dana update ["Deacon" ]
Wiper motor [Jim Pointer ]
Re: Wiper motor [Keith Srb ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? ["Dave Resch"]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [John MacNamara ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [Keith Srb ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [Don Grossman ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [marko

helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Plowing [Jason DiSalvo ]
'64 f-350 Util [Mark Shankel ]
Re: Wiper motor ["Deacon" ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [Gardner ]

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:20:50 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100

> From: danadeb

pacbell.net
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:49:27 -0800
> Subject: Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100

> 6) definitely get the right ( passenger ) side exhaust manifold from
> a truck 460 ( don't forget the smog related stuff on that side while
> your there ) the automotive one will work BUT!!!! it is not pretty.
> The swapper on my truck cut (ouch!!!!) the frame rail to let it fit
> better. I think it would have fit without cutting but I don't know
> for sure!

For sure! The pipe exits right at the bell housing and frame
juncture's closest points with a car manifold and a 2.5" pipe won't
fit, period :-( The starter is right there too so it's really a mess
with a car manifold. There is a reason I know this but I'm not
tellin :-)

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:47:29 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Sparkplug advice

> From: Lee Craner
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:03:22 EST
> Subject: Sparkplug advice

> I have a set of Champion F9YC's. I think they'll fit the 390 in my
> 73 F250. Does anyone have a Champion application book that can
> confirm this?

If you're using Champions then you probably need more fatherly advice
:-) TEHO but I personally haven't had any luck with Champions. I
believe in buying American (if you live in America that is) but the
best plug I've ever used is NGK. AFAIK, autolite is right up there
with them for automotive applications and so is MotorCraft I just had
some really good dirt bike experiences with NGK.

Since you already have them tho go ahead if they are the right heat
range. Sorry, I'm only good for soap boxes, don't have the chart
handy :-)

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:13:48 -0700
From: Rab Rawlins
Subject: Turn signals not working

Don't know if you guys have checked this but its happened twice to me.
The first time my signal lights went out I noticed a slight wisp of
smoke come from underneath my horn button. Sure enough fords got a
gazillion wires stuffed into a 3 inch area. The turn signal wires had
rubbed themselves bare and shorted out inside the steering column area.
If it hadn't been for that slight wisp of smoke I'd probably still be
tracing wires.

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:34:54 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Turn signals not working

> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:13:48 -0700
> From: Rab Rawlins
> Subject: Turn signals not working

> column area. If it hadn't been for that slight wisp of smoke I'd
> probably still be tracing wires. +-------------- Ford Truck

Yup, that's when my hazzards went out. Problem is the new switch
didn't fix it and all the wires and contacts are replaced by the new
switch?? I went around to all the lights, pulled the bulbs and put
them back in (all were good) and suddenly I had signals but still no
hazzards so I suspect it's in the sockets somewhere or a plug going
to one of them but not sure yet :-(

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:40:07 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Dana update

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:

> Well, I got the primer on finally! What a job. The blaster wouldn't
> touch the undercoating and grease on there so it had to be
> meticulously scraped off with a small screwdriver to get into the
> cracks and crevices. Wire brushes didn't get it, sanding disks
> didn't get it, brake cleaner didn't get it.

Gary: Have you ever tried Engine Cleaner. I swear by this stuff. Spray it
on and hose off the grease. Works great in those cracks. You can buy it
at pep boys for $1.50 a can. Anybody else ever use it for cleaning off oil
and grease?

>

Thanks
John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette
64 427 L/R
66 427M/R
71 ZL1 T/D
68 427

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:47:59 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Dana update

> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:40:07 -0800
> From: John MacNamara
> Subject: Re: Dana update

> Gary: Have you ever tried Engine Cleaner. I swear by this stuff.
> Spray it on and hose off the grease. Works great in those cracks.
> You can buy it at pep boys for $1.50 a can. Anybody else ever use
> it for cleaning off oil and grease?

I've tried it on running vehicles engines and axles but usually if
you don't scrape off the heavy stuff it won't cut it in my
experience. I've tried spraying it on and going to a car wash and
ever doing this a couple of times and still there's a lot of gunk
still on there.

I've got some and still need to clean up the steering arms so maybe
I'll give it a try tonight. Man do I have a mess to clean up. I can
seen from this that I need a special place to do my blasting and
another place do paint and another place for working on the
mechanicals. Maybe I better build another pole barn :-)

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:16:15 -0800
From: sdelanty

sonic.net
Subject: Turn signals

>
> Gary, did you find the problem with your turn signals? Mine went out
>last week in my '73 F100 and haven't found the problem.
>Later!

Hey Deacon and Gary,
I must have missed Garys posts about turn signals while I was email-less
for a while...

Most of the problems with the ford turn signals are in that stupid
multi-contact switch on the steering column. There's about 7-8 wires that
go into the damn thing and all those switch contacts aren't of the highest
quality and they fail, leaving You without turn signals and/or brakelights.
I tore mine apart and fixed it 3 times , then finally replaced it with a
circuit that only uses 3 switch contacts (and 3 wires to the column) and
2 relays to do the switching logic. Since the turn signal switch contacts
no longer have to handle a couple amps for the bulbs, but only .075 amps
to drive the relay coils, I expect them to last much longer...
It's worked great for a year and a half now. The relays are standard
grainger or radio shack parts.

If You are interested in the circuit, I'll draw it up and send it.

Ummm, what are the symptoms of Your failure(s)?

Happy motoring,

Steve

It were not best that we should all think alike;
it is the difference of opinion that makes horseraces.
-- Mark Twain

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:50:43 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: A Bronco in northeastern PA

> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:52:23 -0500
> From: Serian
> Subject: A Bronco in northeastern PA

> I have the following vehicle that I am considering putting up for
> sale :
>
> 1979 Ford Bronco (with the following drivetrain specs)
> 351M engine, Motorcraft 2150 2V carburetor
> Warner T-18 4 speed manual transmission
> New Process 205, 2 speed part time 4x4 transfer case
> Ford 9" rear axle, Dana 44-9F front axle
> Manual lockout front hubs

Sounds like a keeper but I just checked and my truck buying days
don't start again till next year about this same time. How much do
you feel it's worth? Just curious since the above is carefully
watched by wife and kids I can't really get too serious right now :-(

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:57:08 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Turn signals

> From: sdelanty

sonic.net
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:16:15 -0800
> Subject: Turn signals

> Most of the problems with the ford turn signals are in that stupid
> multi-contact switch on the steering column. There's about 7-8
> wires that go into the damn thing and all those switch contacts
> aren't of the highest quality and they fail, leaving You without

The relay idea sounds plausable but mine usually go out due to abuse
or old age, something usually breaks causing them not to return etc..
I put in a new switch and still have no lights so my problem is in
the wires somewhere. I can short certain contacts and get part of
the system to flash but not both lights necessarily so there's a
short or lack of ground somewhere, probably in the front since the
tail and brake lights both work.

I'll take the bulbs out of the front and see what it does and
then..........??

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:22:09 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: Re Turn signals.

Gary,
What were the symptoms again? I had an intermittent failure on my turn
signals. One side would stop flashing. Both front and rear bulbs would
come on. When I turned on the headlights the turn indicator in the dash
for that side would come on. Turned out to be a bad ground in the
socket. Try running a wire from the outside metal case at the base of
the bulb to a ground point on the truck and see if that fixes the
problem. Mine had some front end damage that broke the turn signal lens
and let water into the socket. The ground lead in the socket rusted. I
was able to disassemble the socket clean the terminal and tin it with
solder. Then I used epoxy to reassemble the socket. Worked fine ever
since.

Good luck.

Tom H
San Francisco, California
76 F-150 SuperCab 390FE
96 Windstar 200 hp 3.8L (Wife's Hot Rod)

Your just had to remind me didn't you!

#$#

#$ No I haven't but I
thought I had them working without the hazzards and now they're out
again. I'm going to have to methodically trace all the wires under
the dash till I get to the bottom of it. In a 20 year old truck the
wires often shed some of the insulation in the most inconvenient
places so I'm going to look first for plugs which may be loose/dirty
and then I'm going after the wires.

Right now I don't have a clue, I've checked everything I can think of
that I can reach without taking it all apart :-(

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:32:02 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re Turn signals.

> From: "Hogan, Tom"
> Subject: Re Turn signals.
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:22:09 -0800

> What were the symptoms again? I had an intermittent failure on my
> turn signals. One side would stop flashing. Both front and rear

Zero response on either side, not even lighting the dash indicator or
any of the bulbs. I think you are on the right track since fiddling
with the bulbs got it working again temporarily. The brake lights
and tail lights did work last time I looked so the rear bulbs are
working and the problem is probably up front :-)

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:45:05 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Dana update

>> From: John MacNamara
>> Subject: Re: Dana update
>
>> Gary: Have you ever tried Engine Cleaner. I swear by this stuff.
>> Spray it on and hose off the grease. Works great in those cracks.
>> You can buy it at pep boys for $1.50 a can. Anybody else ever use
>> it for cleaning off oil and grease?
>
>I've tried it on running vehicles engines and axles but usually if
>you don't scrape off the heavy stuff it won't cut it in my
>experience. I've tried spraying it on and going to a car wash and
>ever doing this a couple of times and still there's a lot of gunk
>still on there.
>
>I've got some and still need to clean up the steering arms so maybe
>I'll give it a try tonight. Man do I have a mess to clean up>

A list member once suggested Easy Off oven cleaner. I tried it and it worked
great. Takes paint and all off.

>I can see from this that I need a special place to do my blasting and
>another place do paint and another place for working on the
>mechanicals. Maybe I better build another pole barn :-)

That's just more places to clean! :)

>Where's Murphy when
>you really need him??
>
>-- Gary --

Get Easy Off on something you don't want it on and he'll be there!

Deacon Blues deconblu

geoaccess.com
66 F100 (No wipers)
95 M3

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:42:09 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: Wiper motor

The wiper motor on my 66 is located up under the dash, in between the two wiper arms.

I can't remember for sure, but I think the flexible tubing for the defroster ducts kind'a hides the motor.

Hope this helps.

At 02:00 PM 1/12/98 -0600, you wrote:

Original Message Starts Here

|This is my first post to the list, so I hope this works properly.

|

|What I'm looking for is my windshield wiper motor. That is to say,

|I'm having a hard time figuring out where it's hidden on my 66 F100. The

|Chilton manual, which tries to cover 21 years worth of trucks, is of no

|help in locating the thing. I just got it ready as a winter driver,

|drove it once, and watched the wipers died a slow and miserable death

|before my eyes. Any hints as to its whereabouts would be greatly

|appreciated.

|

|Jim Pointer

|jimp

geoaccess.com

|66 F100 (No wipers)

|95 M3

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Keith Srbherbie

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Mesa, AZ

1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi
5-Speed.

1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.

1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long
Box, Style Side.

1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner,

Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.

My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:30:46 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:07:12 -0500
>From: Ken Payne
>Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?
>
>The 61-79 list peaked at over 550 members and has been
>skrinking ever since. The 80+ list keeps growing at a steady
>pace and will soon get have another split (the small truck list
>split off from it).
Yo Dudes:

Obviously these weird email scams are the scourge of any newsgroup and a
PITA for every email user, but I wanted to share a few of my thoughts about
this list and Ken's comment on the list's membership numbers.

I am subscribed to both this list and the '80-up list. Owning a 1980 F250
4x4 w/ 351M, I find a lot more pertinent information on this list than I do
on the 80-up list. (In fact, other than its infernal TTB front drive
system, my truck has a lot more in common w/ a '77-'79 F truck than a '97
Ranger.) Having read both lists regularly since July '97, I find the
differences in these lists to be both amusing and telling.

On this list, anyone anywhere near "on topic" is talking about a vehicle
that was manufactured almost 20 years ago (at least). People who live w/
and love older (more mature?) Ford pickups deal w/ a whole different class
of issues than those who just bought a shiny new Ranger. I know that every
time I get a digest of this list, I can count on some interesting and
informative technical information, which is, I believe, the intellectual
lifeblood of keeping a 20+ year old truck running and reliable as a daily
driver or work truck. Even if our trucks are "just a hobby," where else
could you go for the high level and quality of information and the sheer
depth of experience you can find here?

On the other hand, recent threads on the 80-up list include: bug
deflectors, new car salesmen, dealership rip offs, tailgate up vs. tailgate
down, finding the block heater plug on a Powerstroke diesel, and new Ranger
owners whining about getting only 22 mpg! Not to flame neophyte truck
owners or newer trucks, or people whose most pressing problem is to figure
out how to blow another $1500 on a truck that they just paid $30K for, but
these are not the day-to-day concerns that I have.

In a nutshell, I guess the main thing about this list that makes me look
forward to every single digest is that it seems to have a spirit of
camaraderie that comes from sharing a common interest in older Ford trucks
that you fix and take care of and modify and upgrade yourself. Rather than
figuring out how to spend even more money on my truck (which I never object
to doing, BTW), I am interested in learning more about how it works, so I
can know more about how to take care of it and fix it (or at least make
sure the guy who works on it for me knows how to fix it).

To me, this list has a lot more personality and "atmosphere" than the 80-up
list. I see a lot more friendly banter (even if occasionally somewhat "off
topic") on this list than I do on the 80-up list. I also see a heck of a
lot more detailed and technical information and troubleshooting advice on
this list than I do on the 80-up list. (I've also noticed that recently a
couple of other 80-up owners have sneaked in, asking for real help here.)

Frankly, this kind of list isn't for everyone. I'm sure that the people
out there looking for the latest and greatest Delta/Deflecta/Dura tack on
plastic/zytel doo-dad to make their Eddie Bauer clone look just a teeny bit
different from all the other 300-some Eddie Bauer clones in the mall
parking lot would be a bit disappointed in a discussion of how to get your
Ford truck ammeter to actually do something, but you know, there are some
people who actually prefer idiot lights.

If the total membership of this list is shrinking, I believe it may be a
process more like distillation, wherein the water is boiled away leaving
the "good" stuff.

Just my 0.02.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)
1980 F250 4x4 351M

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:00:21 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

Dave Resch wrote:

> >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:07:12 -0500
> >From: Ken Payne
> >Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?
> >
> >The 61-79 list peaked at over 550 members and has been
> >skrinking ever since. The 80+ list keeps growing at a steady
> >pace and will soon get have another split (the small truck list
> >split off from it).
> Yo Dudes:
>
>
>
>
>
> On this list, anyone anywhere near "on topic" is talking about a vehicle
> that was manufactured almost 20 years ago (at least). People who live w/
> and love older (more mature?) Ford pickups deal w/ a whole different class
> of issues than those who just bought a shiny new Ranger. I know that every
> time I get a digest of this list, I can count on some interesting and
> informative technical information, which is, I believe, the intellectual
> lifeblood of keeping a 20+ year old truck running and reliable as a daily
> driver or work truck. Even if our trucks are "just a hobby," where else
> could you go for the high level and quality of information and the sheer
> depth of experience you can find here?
>
>
>
> In a nutshell, I guess the main thing about this list that makes me look
> forward to every single digest is that it seems to have a spirit of
> camaraderie that comes from sharing a common interest in older Ford trucks
> that you fix and take care of and modify and upgrade yourself. Rather than
> figuring out how to spend even more money on my truck (which I never object
> to doing, BTW), I am interested in learning more about how it works, so I
> can know more about how to take care of it and fix it (or at least make
> sure the guy who works on it for me knows how to fix it).
>
> To me, this list has a lot more personality and "atmosphere" than the 80-up
> list. I see a lot more friendly banter (even if occasionally somewhat "off
> topic") on this list than I do on the 80-up list. I also see a heck of a
> lot more detailed and technical information and troubleshooting advice on
> this list than I do on the 80-up list. (I've also noticed that recently a
> couple of other 80-up owners have sneaked in, asking for real help here.)

Amen!

Thanks for sanity check Dave!

>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:16:05 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

At 12:30 PM 1/12/98 -0700, you wrote:

Original Message Starts Here

| SNIP SNIP SNIP

|

|To me, this list has a lot more personality and "atmosphere" than the 80-up

|list. I see a lot more friendly banter (even if occasionally somewhat "off

|topic") on this list than I do on the 80-up list. I also see a heck of a

|lot more detailed and technical information and troubleshooting advice on

|this list than I do on the 80-up list. (I've also noticed that recently a

|couple of other 80-up owners have sneaked in, asking for real help here.)

|

I also see a heck of a lot more detailed and technical information coming from people who are patient enough to explain something more that once for some us, namely me, who sometimes have to have things explained more that once to them before they understand it.

I am on all 4 lists. I definitely enjoy the 61-79 list more than any of the other lists.

SNIP SNIP SNIP

|

|Just my 0.02.

|

|Dave R. (M-block devotee)

|1980 F250 4x4 351M

|

|

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Keith Srbherbie

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63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:38:27 -0800
From: marko

helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

>If the total membership of this list is shrinking, I believe it may be a
>process more like distillation, wherein the water is boiled away leaving
>the "good" stuff.
>
>Just my 0.02.
>
>Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>1980 F250 4x4 351M
>

I couldn't agree more. Once in awhile there are threads that seem to go on
a little too long, but who am I to say, as long as the members are enjoying
themselves.

I have got an awful lot of useful information from the list to date, and
hope to get more in the future. I'd like to thank everyone who kicked my
indecisive butt on buying that 410.

I got in on the list almost at the beginning. I think that it might be
that, since some of the posts on the list are highly technical, people who
have minor problems that don't require torque wrenches and tig welders might
get discouraged from posting. I just wanna point out that when I started,
that's the way it was for me, but I sure learned a few things from the list!
And nobody needs to feel intimidated or discouraged from posting to the list
if they so much as want to fix a rip in the seat, or shampoo their carpet,
or drop a 427 cammer into their unibody.

The list saved me immeasurable time and money. I look forward to using it
more as a resource throughout the restoration of my truck.

So, anyone who is shy about posting, don't be.

marko in vancouver

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:23:50 -0500
From: Jason DiSalvo
Subject: Plowing

Does anyone plow with a f150? How does it plow?

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:50:54 -0700
From: Mark Shankel
Subject: '64 f-350 Util

Hi, Newguy here. I have just aquired a 1964 F-350 one ton with a
utility bed (original, with sliding top, built by Utility in Oakland). A
real beauty, let me tell you...

The front axle is aparently the old original. It has 6 huge 5/8"
lugnuts in what looks like a 7 1/4" circle. The entire rear end has
been swapped out and has an 8 lug one ton pattern. Part of me want's to
restore it to original by finding & renewing an original rear end. Does
anyone know where I might find one? Is this going to prove to be a very
rare Item? I haven't seen too much discussion about f-250s or 350s
anywhere.

I was given 8-lug front hubs & brake drums that supposedly will fit with
a little lathe work so the drums will clear the backing plates, and some
fooling around with bearing sizes. So should I go ahead and modify the
front end, or go for original? Any opinions? I also only have three of
the original 6-lug wheels. I do have all the 8-lug wheels though so
that way would probably be cheaper for me, and the original 8-17.5 lt
tires are more expensive and harder to find than the more modern 16.5s
on the rear end.

I have no delusions of a completely original show stopper, I'd like to
continue to use and abuse this elegantly functional work truck as God
intended, But I do want it to be cute and funky and not have to carry
two spares!

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:51:05 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Wiper motor

>This is my first post to the list, so I hope this works properly.
>
>What I'm looking for is my windshield wiper motor. That is to say,
>I'm having a hard time figuring out where it's hidden on my 66 F100. The
>Chilton manual, which tries to cover 21 years worth of trucks, is of no
>help in locating the thing. I just got it ready as a winter driver,
>drove it once, and watched the wipers died a slow and miserable death
>before my eyes. Any hints as to its whereabouts would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Jim Pointer

My '73 F100 is in the cab under the dash. Looks like a pain to get to,
without pulling the dash and heater controls. That's of course is on my '73.
Don't know for sure on a '66.

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:02:04 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

John MacNamara wrote:
>
> Dave Resch wrote:
>
> > >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:07:12 -0500
> > >From: Ken Payne
> > >Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?
> > >
> > >The 61-79 list peaked at over 550 members and has been
> > >skrinking ever since. The 80+ list keeps growing at a steady
> > >pace and will soon get have another split (the small truck list
> > >split off from it).
> > Yo Dudes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On this list, anyone anywhere near "on topic" is talking about a vehicle
> > that was manufactured almost 20 years ago (at least). People who live w/
> > and love older (more mature?) Ford pickups deal w/ a whole different class
> > of issues than those who just bought a shiny new Ranger. I know that every
> > time I get a digest of this list, I can count on some interesting and
> > informative technical information, which is, I believe, the intellectual
> > lifeblood of keeping a 20+ year old truck running and reliable as a daily
> > driver or work truck. Even if our trucks are "just a hobby," where else
> > could you go for the high level and quality of information and the sheer
> > depth of experience you can find here?
> >
> >
> >
> > In a nutshell, I guess the main thing about this list that makes me look
> > forward to every single digest is that it seems to have a spirit of
> > camaraderie that comes from sharing a common interest in older Ford trucks....

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