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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, January 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 017



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In this issue:

Re: M.Cylinder and Booster for Disc Conversion ["Gary, 78 BBB"
Re: Door Solenoids ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dana Update ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
(Fwd) Stabilizers, paint etc. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Needle Gun ["Michael Redden" ]
Fan Shroud ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: Needle Gun ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Fan Shroud ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Needle Gun ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: Enlightenment???? ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? [Ken Payne ]
Re: Needle Gun ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
460 installation in '71 F-100 ["Don Wignall" ]
Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Needle Gun ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions and chain e-mail? ["Michael Redden"
Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100 [CandyDMan ]
Re: Needle Gun ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? ["Deacon" ]
Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100 [SuperMagot ]
Re: Needle Gun ["Bill Beyer" ]
#Ford-Trucks on mIRC [Tyler Wilkins ]
Re: Needle Gun ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: Door Solenoids [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Fan Shroud [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100 [danadeb pacbell.net]
A Bronco in northeastern PA [Serian ]
Sparkplug advice [Lee Craner ]

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:03:49 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: M.Cylinder and Booster for Disc Conversion

> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:51:59 -0700
> From: Antonio Gonella
> Subject: M.Cylinder and Booster for Disc Conversion

> Should I also use the the Granada Master Cylinder and Booster? The
> one at the yard looked a little beat so I held off, and I wanted
> advice on this. The truck currently has drums all around. There is a

Take your master cylinder to a friendly auto parts store where you
can get them to do a little looking for you and compare a new/rebuilt
one with the mounting holes in your original and also the pedal rod
location relative to the mounting holes (some are offset) You'd be
surprised what will fit :-)

The remote boosters work differntly than the ones that are attached.
Don't mix master cylinder and booster in that case use them together
as they are on the donor vehicle if you do that but I'd look for an
integral unit if it will fit under the hood. Rancheros are pretty
low and this may be why they went with the remote unit. The
location of most master cylinders will put the booster very close to
the inner fender and hood so check for clearance before you buy or
install :-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:35:37 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Door Solenoids

> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:59:13 -0700
> From: Antonio Gonella
> Subject: Door Solenoids

> I am looking to shave the door handles from my truck and I was
> wondering if anyone can recommend a door solenoid system? I would
> also like to replace the latches with a bear claw type. I saw a cool
> set up in a Magazine that used a magnet to trigger the solenoid,
> which seems like a way to save a few bucks rather than spring for a
> transmitter system. I think it was by Hole Shot but of course I
> don't remember. If anyone has any advice on this, or all things
> handle shavingly, I wouls appreciate your input. Thanks, Antonio
> Gonella 59 Ford Ranchero.

Put electric windows in and use a remote to operate them then you
don't need to do anything to the door latches, just reach in and pull
the handle. More likely to operate after an ice storm than the door
handles anyway :-)

Really though I've considered this too but I get concerned about a
failure either in the latch, selenoid, battery, switch or pop spring
which will push the door out slighly so it won't relatch and so you
can grab the edge to open it. Depending on how hard it is to install
electric windows in that vintage it may not be such a silly idea
after all? Think about it, you kill two seagulls with one baseball.
You get the electric windows which are cool and a way to open the
door which is almost fool proof.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:46:33 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Dana Update

> From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
> Subject: Re: Dana Update
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:39:14 -0600

> seen were air powered. The tool is a cylinder with about a dozen
> 1/8" diameter rods sticking out one end. When you pull the trigger
> the rods dance up and down removing the paint, slag, or whatever by
> impact.

I WANT ONE! Say, I just thought of something. I could clean and
shot peen at the same time! :-) This sounds like a good way to
reduce the amount of sand I need and the mess if I have lots of flat
work. How good is it for light rust? Will it remove under coating
and grease or just smear it around? I get the sense that it kind of
has the same effect as sand but maybe more aggressive but less likely
to actually clean like sand does, it just chips away the heavy stuff
right?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:11:39 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: (Fwd) Stabilizers, paint etc.

> From: DAR6%OPSp%SFBPP bangate.pge.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 98 14:42:12 PST
> Subject: re:Re: Gone for a week!!

BTW, I agree with Ken, we need to stay "sort of" close to the subject
(I can't believe I responded to that post! #$# ) Is tool talk OK?
This is a discussion I started on the bronco list and refers to the
78/79 vintage bronco but probably applies to the F-150's as well and
thought it might be appropriate here:

> Remeber if you have a front sway bar you cannot get the dual
> stabilizer from Cepek. I bought the Rancho brackets and cepek
> shocks. I wound up just installing the shock in place of my old

I talked to the salesman and got him to find shocks the right length
but with ferrule at one end and rod at the other so I can make my own
brackets. I've seen several good setups in the mags now and have lots
of ideas. The simplest one used "U" bolts to hold the center bracket
to the axle tube but as you say the sway bar is in the way so a
special bracket will have to be fabricated.

I decided that the tube end will go in the center so that most of the
weight will pivot rather than bounce when one or the other tire hits a
bump reducing the unsprung weight and hopefully giving me an
acceptable ride. My initial plan was to mount it to the frame cross
member but the distances are too much for a good installation. The
rod ends will go to either side near the tie rod end using standard
"U" bolt setup like the one on there already. I'll just use that as a
pattern for the other side, clean it up and paint it all bright yellow
with my new $45 Imron paint.

Now that I've changed the subject let me say I painted the axle last
night and the Imron is easy to use and clean up and sprays pretty well
too. I think I missed the color by a shade or two though, those
little blotches they have for samples aren't very easy to work with
IMHO. It's not a bright as my bushings but maybe it will look Ok
anyway.

I took my new gun out of the box, poured the paint in and sprayed
(shot?). Of course I made a mess of it like I always do but I'm happy
with it so far. The instructions said to wait for it to tack up and
spray the next coat but it was late so I'm doing it tonight, does
anyone know if that will hurt it? I'm going to wet sand it tonight
to get some of the lumps off (runs etc.) and give it another coat,
wait a day or so for it to dry and put it back together, hopefully
before it snows. Now that it's all welded, taking it apart to redo it
won't be such a hassel since I won't have to take the carrier and
pinion bearings out to protect them from the heat. I can take my
front end apart in my sleep now.

BTW, the new seal for the pinion isn't as nice as the original one
:-( It had a nice flat, flush cover on it which blended well to the
housing. The new one is just a plain National seal with grooves etc.
to catch dirt and stuff.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:14:57 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 15:33:31 -0500
> From: Ken Payne
> Subject: ADMIN: STOP IT NOW-->Re: Telephone per minute charges

> Personnally it is my favorite of the 4 lists and I do not want to
> see even more membership loss because of off-topic postings.
> Further "per minute charges" will result in temporary loss of
> posting privilages to offenders - everyone has been warned.

Ken, can you give us an update on subscription numbers for each list?
I'm just curious?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:16:47 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Needle Gun

I was going to ask the exact same questions about the needle scaler as Gary,
but now I don't have to :)

I've had good luck buying air tools from Harbor Freight. Hey, they aren't
SnapOn, but I've had an air hammer and a set of punches that I've used for
three years now.
It cost $12 a set. Same 4 punches with hammer: now $7.47.

The needle scalers (they have 2) are about $30 - $40.

Mike

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:29:24 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Fan Shroud

I have an "70 F-250 that originally had a 300 six, and now has a 302 eight.
I recently replaced the radiator (BIG sucker) and was wondering if I should
put in a fan shroud. I don't know if it originally had one. When I got it
it didn't.

Thanks,

Mike R

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:31:22 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Needle Gun

> From: "Michael Redden"
> Subject: Needle Gun
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:16:47 -0500

> I was going to ask the exact same questions about the needle scaler
> as Gary, but now I don't have to :)
>
> I've had good luck buying air tools from Harbor Freight. Hey, they
> aren't SnapOn, but I've had an air hammer and a set of punches that
> I've used for three years now. It cost $12 a set. Same 4 punches
> with hammer: now $7.47.
>
> The needle scalers (they have 2) are about $30 - $40.

Really? I was just there yesterday and saw one for $119? I'll go
back and take another look :-) For $30 or $40 I'm interested but at
$119 I have to wait a bit.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:36:15 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Fan Shroud

> From: "Michael Redden"
> Subject: Fan Shroud
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:29:24 -0500

> I have an "70 F-250 that originally had a 300 six, and now has a 302
> eight. I recently replaced the radiator (BIG sucker) and was
> wondering if I should put in a fan shroud. I don't know if it
> originally had one. When I got it it didn't.

I don't know for sure either but they have been standard for many
years, at least back into the early 60's. I'd try to get one and put
it on. It really helps when you have to run slow under power like
off roading or in traffic. The 302 probably doesn't make any more
heat than the 6 but has more potential for power so could become a
problem later if you start modifying it or working it hard at low
speeds.


Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:49:38 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Needle Gun

Gary:

I goofed. The price is $75 for the needle gun at Harbor Freight.

However, I found a needle scaler attachment for an air hammer in the same
catalogue for $15. It will work on all hammer accepting .401 shanks.
(just found a pistol grip needle scaler: $69)

The catalog # is 301

Mike

PS thanks for the fan shroud response. I'll start hunting for one.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:53:25 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Enlightenment????

> Steve
> The road to Enlightenment is long and
difficult.
> Bring snacks and a book to read...

Steve,
Thanks for the laugh! How come the road is always under construction??

later,
dale c

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:07:12 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

>
>Ken, can you give us an update on subscription numbers for each list?
>I'm just curious?
>
>Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

60 and older list: 257
61-79 list: 399
80 and newer list: 793
small truck list: 209

The 61-79 list peaked at over 550 members and has been skrinking
ever since. The 80+ list keeps growing at a steady pace and will
soon get have another split (the small truck list split off from
it).

As to my posting yesterday, I over-reacted. I was in a horrible
mood and I should have held back until I felt better. If anything,
the people who respond are the victems. I wouldn't yank anyone's
posting privilages for posting activity unless they were abusing
other users with no mercy. This has only happened once in our
history.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:10:38 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Needle Gun

> From: "Michael Redden"
> Subject: Re: Needle Gun
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:49:38 -0500

> Gary:
>
> I goofed. The price is $75 for the needle gun at Harbor Freight.
>
> However, I found a needle scaler attachment for an air hammer in the
> same catalogue for $15. It will work on all hammer accepting .401
> shanks. (just found a pistol grip needle scaler: $69)
>
> The catalog # is 301

All their numbers are 5 digets. I couldn't find the needle kit for
air hammers you mentioned?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:24:10 -0600
From: "Don Wignall"
Subject: 460 installation in '71 F-100

I am a new member here. I have been a subscriber for about a month and I
really enjoy the posts. I need some information on an engine swap.
Several of you have 67-72 trucks with 460 engines. I would like to install
a 460, I have out in the garage, into my '71 F-100 to replace the 360 that
is pretty sick. If anyone can, please advise me what engine mounts will
work, where they are available, etc and anything else that is beneficial for
this swap. Since the 460 was not available in the 71 F-100, will later
engine mounts work? I plan to use a C-6 tranny and would like to keep the
existing trans mount where it is to prevent any need to change drive shaft
length.
Any and all information will be appreciated.

Thanks Everyone,
Don Wignall
Carrollton, Texas

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:50:35 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100

> From: "Don Wignall"
> Subject: 460 installation in '71 F-100
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:24:10 -0600

> and I really enjoy the posts. I need some information on an engine
> swap. Several of you have 67-72 trucks with 460 engines. I would
> like to install a 460, I have out in the garage, into my '71 F-100
> to replace the 360 that is pretty sick. If anyone can, please
> advise me what engine mounts will work, where they are available,
> etc and anything else that is beneficial for this swap. Since the
> 460 was not available in the 71 F-100, will later engine mounts
> work? I plan to use a C-6 tranny and would like to keep the
> existing trans mount where it is to prevent any need to change drive
> shaft length. Any and all information will be appreciated.

The engine is a no brainer, L&L or Advance Adapters and some others
have good mounts and headers and such to make the swap but the tranny
may be a problem. If your 360 has a C-6 already there's hope but I
haven't done this particular swap so am not sure but if it's an FMX
the lengths will almost certainly be different and the output shaft
splines may even be different so I wouldn't start the project without
calculating a drive shaft swap into it but the cross member should be
fine. Some have mentioned they had to move the stanchions back
(engine) to work with the radiator shroud but you can get all
different lengths of fan adapters in a junk yard to fix most of those
kinds of problems.

You'll want to keep or find the bracketry which goes with the 460 for
the alternator, PS Pump etc. since the holes will not line up at all
from the FE engine.

If it's 4wd then you will need a rear sump oil pan. The throttle
linkage may be different but if you can use the old carb you're all
set there too.

The 460 makes a lot of heat and is especially prone to over heat in
warmer climates like the South West so you may want to look into a
bigger/better radiator. I've used a 3 core for a 351 hypo from a
van with good success and plan to use the super cool 545 modine
eventually in the bronco but the stock 351W 2 core radiator just
didn't cut it here in Michigan.

Oh (I knew there was something else) and the passenger side manifold
needs to be a truck version if you want proper fit for the exhaust
pipes. The car manifold goes downward like the driver side but the
truck version comes back more and exits at about 15 degrees from
horizontal so they're easy to tell apart. This makes setting up the
exhaust a lot easier in a truck.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:14:51 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Needle Gun

Gary:

What I posted was the Catalog Number (Harbor Freight Buyers Guide), not the
item number. If you need, I'll get it for you. Did you want the air hammer
attachment?

Mike

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:18:59 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions and chain e-mail?

Ken:

As you mentioned, both virus "warnings" and other e-mail chain letters are a
waste of time. If you REALLY want to get a virus, try opening a lot of
chain mail (not the kind with metal links)!

Mike

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:38:43 EST
From: CandyDMan
Subject: Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100

For the Alternator and PS pump bracketing, early 70s Lincoln Continentals come
with 460s and have more bracketing than you could ask for and probably need

Candyman

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:40:10 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Needle Gun

> From: "Michael Redden"
> Subject: Re: Needle Gun
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:14:51 -0500

> Gary:
>
> What I posted was the Catalog Number (Harbor Freight Buyers Guide),
> not the item number. If you need, I'll get it for you. Did you
> want the air hammer attachment?

Yes thank you very much :-) I wonder how that works. I think the
other needle guns have separate drivers for each needle right?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:33:12 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

>I wouldn't yank anyone's
>posting privilages for posting activity unless they were abusing
>other users with no mercy. This has only happened once in our
>history.

No it wasn't me! I've been busy moving. :)

I'll be starting on my '76 F350 in a couple of weeks so I'll be asking
questions then.

Gary, did you find the problem with your turn signals? Mine went out
last week in my '73 F100 and haven't found the problem.
Later!


Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
================================================
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:41:40 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: ADMIN, list subscriptions?
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:33:12 -0800

> Gary, did you find the problem with your turn signals? Mine went
> out
> last week in my '73 F100 and haven't found the problem.
> Later!

Your just had to remind me didn't you! #$# #$ No I haven't but I
thought I had them working without the hazzards and now they're out
again. I'm going to have to methodically trace all the wires under
the dash till I get to the bottom of it. In a 20 year old truck the
wires often shed some of the insulation in the most inconvenient
places so I'm going to look first for plugs which may be loose/dirty
and then I'm going after the wires.

Right now I don't have a clue, I've checked everything I can think of
that I can reach without taking it all apart :-(

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:27:46 EST
From: SuperMagot
Subject: Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100

In a message dated 98-01-11 12:23:55 EST, you write:


really enjoy the posts. I need some information on an engine swap.
Several of you have 67-72 trucks with 460 engines. >>

I did a 240 6Cyl 3 speed manual to a 460 C-6 Swap in a 70 F-100.

You can keep the engine mount towers, but will probaly need new mounts.
(Although I used 360 mounts and modified them (to save $$), I suggest you get
mounts specificaly for the 460). You can also keep the tranny x-member, but
you may have to move it around a little, mine had multiple mounting holes.

I had to modify the driveshaft, but you may not have too. Since you already
have a C-6, you probaly wont have any problems there. Depending on what you
had for a radiator and where you live, getting a decent 3-core radiator will
be a must.

It will be alot of work, but the first time you take that thing out for a
spin, it will be worth it!

- - Mike

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:33:06 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: Needle Gun

>
> All their numbers are 5 digets. I couldn't find the needle kit for
> air hammers you mentioned?
>
The Harbor Freight On Line catalog lists 3 of them. The IR is $119, the CN
is $65 and the other brand name isn't mentioned but lists for $40.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/qrys/headsearch.qry?function=Search

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:34:16 -0600
From: Tyler Wilkins
Subject: #Ford-Trucks on mIRC

I'm posting this for any list members who are familiar with the IRC. I
am running a chat on the UNDERNET called #Ford-Trucks. So if any of you
use the IRC, stop in sometime. Free Ops to anyone from the list. I just
opened a few weeks ago so it may be a little slow at time until we get
more 'regulars'.

Those of you who are Interested but aren't familiar with the IRC, msg me
(wicowboy execpc.com) for more info. IRC is a large chat network,
completely different from most chats on most websites. DO NOT however
message Ken or any of the administration here in this list or on the
Ford-Trucks website as they are completely Unaffilitated with the IRC
and this chat. I repeat Do NOT message Ken here on the list or on the
web site. If you want more info or have any questions msg me directly
at the e-mail address above. Thank You and hope to see some of you
there!

Tyler Wilkins
Milwaukee, WI 53045

'73 F-250 4x4, 360, 4-speed
'74 F-100 4x2, 360, C-6
'79 F-100 4x2, 351M, C-6
'94 Explorer 4-Door
Coming Soon........'74 Bronco 4x4, 302, C-4, w/ plow and 36,000 origanal
miles!

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:19:14 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Needle Gun

Gary:
Needle Scaler Attachment: Item#05541-0JDA $14.99
Replacement 19pc. Needle Set: Item#01109-4JDA $9.99
From Harbor Freight Catalog #301 Winter 1998 (page 55)

Looks like it operates the same as the regular gun, the blows per minute are
limited by the specs of your air hammer

Mike

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:08:43 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Door Solenoids

Bill Beyer wrote:
>

> Shouldn't this read:
>
> I have just one word about shaved/no door handles:
>
> Deadbatteryhowareyougoingtogetin!
>

Thanks!

My spell checker must have broken it into multiple words ;)

Dana


P.S. I would have thought Deacon would have called me on something like that!

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:20:02 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Fan Shroud

My 70 F250, that originally had a 390 ( 460 now! ) has one and it appears to be
stock.

Dana

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:49:27 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 460 installation in '71 F-100

I have a 460 in my 70. I did not do the swap myself but I can give you some
info.

1) In So Cal the stock 390 standard duty radiator has been fine. I looked at the
other rad choices for a stock truck and the rad for a 74 460 is the same as the
70 390 "super cool" option. It is very different from the standard 390 rad in
the mounts and size. I have been using the 390 standard rad for 4 years now and
have never felt like I need any more ( mostly city and fwy driving some mountain
)

2) the lower rad hose is the same standard or "super cool" but the upper is not.
I looked at many T-stat housings and couldn't find one that would fit the stock
hose and rad, But I did find that the Flex Hose replacement for the stock 74 460
upper fit perfect.

3) my understanding is that the 460 into a 67-72 can be done with all stock
parts. Using many stock parts from a 73-74 with 460 such as engine mounts.

4) If you don't already have one get a truck oil pan and pickup tube. The pan
should have a rear oil drain plug vs. the automotive side drain. ( also holds an
extra quart of oil )

5) Your alternator, P/S pump should work fine but as someone already pointed out
you will need all of the front engine brackets for the 460 and as mentioned the
automotive vs. truck brackets are probably the same or very similar for the
model years mentioned.

6) definitely get the right ( passenger ) side exhaust manifold from a truck 460
( don't forget the smog related stuff on that side while your there ) the
automotive one will work BUT!!!! it is not pretty. The swapper on my truck cut
(ouch!!!!) the frame rail to let it fit better. I think it would have fit
without cutting but I don't know for sure!

7) check out the local Pick your Part you can go there and pull stuff from one
vehicle and see how it would fit on the other!!! ( just remember to buy
something once and a while and for the benefit of others if you don't buy a part
put it in the back of the vehicle it came from. )

Good Luck

Dana

P.S. I sure wish I had done my engine swap!!!

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:52:23 -0500
From: Serian
Subject: A Bronco in northeastern PA



Hail folks ..

I have the following vehicle that I am considering putting up for sale :

1979 Ford Bronco (with the following drivetrain specs)
351M engine, Motorcraft 2150 2V carburetor
Warner T-18 4 speed manual transmission
New Process 205, 2 speed part time 4x4 transfer case
Ford 9" rear axle, Dana 44-9F front axle
Manual lockout front hubs

Just recently repaired to exceptional condition; not a restoration job,
but it looks good and runs strong. New brakes all around; new rear brake....

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