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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, March 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 136
Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks Digest
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In this issue:
Re: V*lare Rear End [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: 460 idle [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Need a 4-speed ["kingw" ]
Question on swap to auto [Joe DeLaurentis ]
Your truck photo in Auto Krafter Catalog [Ken Payne
Re: Question on swap to auto [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Your truck photo in Auto Krafter Catalog ["Chris Hedemark"
Re: Thunderbird Special? [Dan Koster ]
Re: 20 mpg AND 500 hp??? ["David W. Anderson" ]
looking for instructions 1967 4x4 powerstearing xplant [Cearth626
Re: looking for instructions 1967 4x4 powerstearing xplant [Shelektric
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:57:13 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: V*lare Rear End
>marko helix.net (marko maryniak) wrote:
>> I got one, running gear was a bit bastardized by the last owner (v*lare >
rear end) but the body's quite solid.
>> It's a ford though.
>Now THAT'S a switch. We got a V*lare FRONT end waiting to go into our
>'56 big window. It lends itself nicely to the Effie with front disks,
>same bolt pattern, adjustable height, integral power steering, etc.
>Never before heard of anybody wanting to use the rear-end, but as
>someone (I suppose famous) once said: "there's no accounting for
>taste". Sounds like they never heard of a Versailles. Nine inch,
>bulletproof, and disks!
The front end is a V*lare but the rearend looks goofy too. Plus, the bolt
pattern on the wheels is different from (smaller than) the wheels on my 67
mercury m100 pickup (smaller on the '56). Plus, it just looks like a D*dge
rearend like the one in my friend's V*liant. I could be wrong tho. Was the
bolt pattern on the 56 wheels smaller than the bolt pattern on the 67-72's?
I kinda doubt it's the original rearend.
Please edify me on the Versailles thing. What years? I am thinking of
doing an econoline pickup next winter, and it would be good to start getting
some parts together for that, like a hotted up 302, strong rearend, etc, etc.
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 13:51:01 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 460 idle
> My 460 in my 1977 F-350 starts up great , then for about 3 minuets
in cuts out and carries on then after about 3 minuets all of a sudden it
sounds great. And after you start it and rev it up and when it comes back
down to idle speed it just dies what is my problem?
Mike, it sounds like carburetor icing to me. If this happens more often on
damp days when the temperature is in the 40 degree range, and if your truck
idles fine when it's warmed up, then that's what your problem is. There
should be a flex pipe to a stove unit over the pass side exhaust manifold to
take warm air off that when the engine first starts. If you don't have one
of those or are running an open air cleaner then icing can be a problem.
Also, if the engine gets old, the exhaust gas passage in the manifold can
plug up, meaning that you no longer get the immediate heat in the manifold
under the carb to prevent icing that you would get with a new/clean
It's nothing serious, but it is a pain in the neck. If you can rig up a
properly working stove it shud cure the problem.
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:51:23 -0600
Subject: Need a 4-speed
If the truck isn't going to be used for towing or the such,
and therefore you don't want a granny gear, I must advocate
you get a 4 speed Toploader. I put one into my 68 2wd and
I love it. Best thing about the truck (right now).
Toploaders are a bit pricey, but totally bulletproof and
will last for the life of the truck. If you can't find one near
you, try calling Dan Williams (I am not affiliated, but got
some stuff from him a while back. Toploader guru and nice
guy to boot.
25 East Dogwood Drive
Franklin, North Carolina 28734
704.524.9085 (noon to midnight EST)
Two words of caution about the swap.
1. Make sure you can get all the linkage parts you need (shouldn't be
to hard. There are plenty of trucks w/ standard trannys). I made the
mistake of trying to convert my 68 Torino to a 4 speed. Couldn't find
a clutch linkage. Bad time...
2. Make sure your block has the equalizer bar pivot machining on the
driver's side. The clutch equalizer bar will sit in this machining, but if
block doesn't have it, you'll be sorry (see #1 about the Torino). I know
the 1968 and 69 429 blocks DIDN'T have this machining, and therefore you
have to improvise to make your clutch linkage work. Also, make sure you
can get your pilot bushing (goes in butt of crank to hold the input shaft
tranny). The 1968 and 69 429s weren't machined for this, so...
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:18:15 -0500
From: Joe DeLaurentis
Subject: Question on swap to auto
If I wanted to swap my 4x4 to auto what can I use???I know I need
a c-6 with a FE bellhousing would a c6 and transfer case from a 78/79
bronco f150 work????I know they didnt offer fe's but i can switch the
bell housing...Or is there something i can bolt to my tcase now
and just remove the 4 speed???
1968 F-100 4x4 302 Np435 Bone Stock down to the wheel covers
1970 F-250 4x4 390 Np435 The Beast
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:30:21 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Your truck photo in Auto Krafter Catalog
Auto Krafters is about to start advertising on the web page (not
the lists). They sent me an email today that I think some of you
might find to be pretty cool (and you'll get paid to show off your
ride). Here's the email I received:
>We are looking for photos of 1973-1979 Ford F-Series Trucks for the
>cover of our next F-Series catalog. I thought that maybe you would know
>of F-Series owners who would like an extra opportunity to show off their
>truck. We do offer a $20 certificate to Auto Krafters to the owners of
>the vehicles which we choose for our cover. This catalog will be going
>to press very shortly (hopefully) so the photos should be sent within
>the next two weeks to :
>Auto Krafters (att: Mike Eberly)
>P.O. Box 8
>Broadway, VA 22815
>Thank you for your help.
Personally, if I had a 73-79 (and my truck looked better!) I'd send
a photo in. Many of the trucks on the web site are really good
looking and they are asking for permission so I think its great
for all parties involved.
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 18:53:34 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Question on swap to auto
Joe DeLaurentis wrote:
> I know they didnt offer fe's but i can switch the
> bell housing.
C6 does not have a removeable bellhousing!
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:10:28 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Your truck photo in Auto Krafter Catalog
>Auto Krafters is about to start advertising on the web page (not
>the lists). They sent me an email today that I think some of you
>might find to be pretty cool (and you'll get paid to show off your
>ride). Here's the email I received:
I'm glad the web page is getting a new sponsor. HOWEVER I wanted to add
that Auto Krafters has been harvesting email addresses from the mailing
lists for unsolicited email advertisements (aka SPAM). I didn't find it too
offensive, because it was very targeted and wasn't of the bulk variety but
still I never asked about any of their products or anything and got a
message asking to check out their web site. I guess what I'm saying is I'd
like to see a little more care given by the companies affiliating themselves
with the list before they send email to folks. Like I said though their
particular message wasn't all that offensive or anything and I don't think
it will stop me from doing business with them in the future. I just would
like to see some set of guidelines established for the conduct of companies
before they get do something that they may not know is considered offensive
Where do you stand on this, Ken?
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:47:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Re: Thunderbird Special?
- ---George Herpich wrote:
> Do the valve covers have a decal that says "Thunderbird Special".
Nope, just THUNDERBIRD imprinted across the cover.
> 375 hp in '61. Does it have adjustable rocker arms and solid lifters?
I didn't check before I sent the heads to the machine shop to have
them cleaned and checked out.
> If not, and it is a '61, it's a 300 hp.
Do you by chance know of any literature that might give me the full
specs on those specific performance ratings?
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:35:52 -0800
From: "David W. Anderson"
Subject: Re: 20 mpg AND 500 hp???
I remember reading a series of articles in Hot Rod about a blown 302 Ch*v
back in the summer of '96. They got 549 horsepower and managed a smidge
over 23 mpg with it in a '65 Chevelle. Even though horsepower and mileage
apparently can be combined in a small block it's pretty clear that they
dumped bucket loads of money into that motor to pull it off, which is the
main reason my toys have big blocks. I'd love a high winding small block
and a 4-spd but my nickel and dime budget dictates cubic inches and a
relatively sane rpm limit.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:03:28 EST
Subject: looking for instructions 1967 4x4 powerstearing xplant
anyone have a clue on how to put power stearing into '67 f100 4x4?
I am loosing my sense of humor trying to locate the person who know the
secrets to this transplant.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:38:18 EST
Subject: Re: looking for instructions 1967 4x4 powerstearing xplant
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