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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, March 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 134



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In this issue:

Re: 300 I-6 [George Herpich ]
Re: Frenched antennas ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Grass Valley outing [fred robinson ]
390/428 Article [BDIJXS ]
Colorado Smog Stuff [BDIJXS ]
Re: 300 I-6 [Kurt Albershardt ]
Rattling Rocker Arms [tfmf211 murphyfarms.com]
Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck [Tyler Wilkins ]
Re: Rattling Rocker Arms [Mike Schwall ]
RE: Rattling Rocker Arms [Sleddog ]
looking for [FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)]
ADMIN: Digest topic filtering [Ken Payne ]
Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck [pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)]
Re: ADMIN: Digest topic filtering [danadeb pacbell.net]

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 07:13:24 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: 300 I-6

Chris Hedemark wrote
>
> I didn't think that anyone actually took these motors seriously though, in
> the way of performance. I mean, a blown 300??? That's something you don't
> see every day. I can't say I'd want one for myself but I'd certainly
> wonder what the power curve looks like on such an animal.

A couple of guys in NJ in the early '70s ran a 300 6 in E/A. They used a
Boss 302 head.
Their biggest problem was running on the record as NHRA used the
breakout rule in competition eliminator back then. The record was 9.70
and their car could run 9.00.
It was a T-bucket altered with rear brakes only. A guy in KY, Joe
Williamson (?), was also running a similar setup around the same time
with greater success. He used a six piece head where JP&Dee used three
pieces.
I would love to see someone build one of those motors for the street.
The new aluminum Windsor heads would make it much easier. The flow
through head design is all that
motor is missing for killer performance.

I just remembered. Comp Eliminator was one by a Cleveland head 300 6 at
one of the '97
national events.

George

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:10:39 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Frenched antennas

>> Wish Someone said this earlier, before I started thinking about it and
>> almost choked to death on a 76 antenna ball! :)
>>
>
>You have to be careful with antennas, you never know where they have been
you
>might catch VAN-AERIAL disease. ;-)


Dana you have to be careful where you say things like this. You never know
what kind of RECEPTION you'll get.

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 06:08:12 -0800
From: fred robinson
Subject: Grass Valley outing

Those in the Sacrament area that would like to make a drive to Grass Valley
to meet Jeff Carver, 64 4door crewcab, on the 21st of March let me know.
Jeff is looking for a place to meet in Grass Valley and I will find a place
for all that what to meet in Sacramento to drive to Grass Valley.

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:43:40 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: 390/428 Article

Hey Dave W.,

I hunted around here for the magazine article on the 390/428 conversion,
couldn't find it. Is there any telephone numbers for the publisher on Ford
High Performance?????

Thanks!

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:43:49 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: Colorado Smog Stuff

Hi Brad,

Regarding your concern about "smogging" your 76 rig....

I have a 69 F-100, it has 4-bbl carb, manifold, headers, cam...etc.....no
problem EVER with getting past smog regulations. Any car here before 1980 gets
the less stringent test, while the newer ones get the "dyno" type tests. In
fact, my motor will pass late 80's emission standards since it runs clean.....

I guess what I'm saying is you shouldn't have to worry about it too much as
long as you're not burning too much oil, and if you have something like a
Holley, the idle mixture and mains are adjusted properly....

Let me know how you proceed...

Colorado Jeff
(Boulder)

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 08:10:05 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: 300 I-6

I'm confused. How do you put a Boss 302 or aluminum Windsor head on an
I-6 motor?

Where do these multi-piece head designs come from? They sound really
interesting, given the bottom end strength of the I-6.

FWIW, the non-crossflow head is much less of an limitation for low-mid RPM
truck applications than it is for racing. It also makes the turbo plumbing
much easier.


At 07:13 AM 3/8/98 -0500, George Herpich wrote:
>
>A couple of guys in NJ in the early '70s ran a 300 6 in E/A. They used a
>Boss 302 head.
>Their biggest problem was running on the record as NHRA used the
>breakout rule in competition eliminator back then. The record was 9.70
>and their car could run 9.00.
>It was a T-bucket altered with rear brakes only. A guy in KY, Joe
>Williamson (?), was also running a similar setup around the same time
>with greater success. He used a six piece head where JP&Dee used three
>pieces.
>I would love to see someone build one of those motors for the street.
>The new aluminum Windsor heads would make it much easier. The flow
>through head design is all that
>motor is missing for killer performance.
>

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:08:40 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: Rattling Rocker Arms

Well guys,

I put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on my 360 this weekend
and found the following:

At idle cold, 10lbs
At idle hot, 0lbs or close to it.
At 2000 rpm cold, 45lbs.

At speeds between 35 to 55 mph, 35 to 40 lbs

The truck still "ticks" even cold!

What do you think? Oil pump? Main Bearings? Cam Bearings?
Rebuild?

Ted Freeman
'68 Ranger

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 11:50:51 -0600
From: Tyler Wilkins
Subject: Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck

> It is located about a five hour drive away from me in Maryland. Somehow I
> have to tow it back to North Carolina. Anybody have an idea of the best
> way to do it (i.e. trailer, tow dolly or tow bar?) I will be pulling it
> with my bosses 3/4 ton Chebby with a hitch rated at 1,000 tounge and
> 10,000 towing. I would like to use my truck but right now it is not up to
> the task.

I've used tow bars for longer distances than that. I have never had any
problems with mine (As long as you hook it up right), I use it all the
time! This would probably be the cheapest if you have to rent it. The
only reason you may not be able to is if it has no bed or anything on
the back. Then you may have to use a trailer because the the tires will
throw stuff and if a cop see's ya he'll probably pull ya over (Been
there). You'll probably get run off the road too if you chip someones
windsheild behind you. This would also aply to the front wheel only
dolly's.....

Tyler Wilkins.

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 14:32:37 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: Rattling Rocker Arms

At 12:08 PM 3/8/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Well guys,
>
>I put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on my 360 this weekend
>and found the following:
>
>At idle cold, 10lbs
>At idle hot, 0lbs or close to it.
>At 2000 rpm cold, 45lbs.
>
>At speeds between 35 to 55 mph, 35 to 40 lbs
>
>The truck still "ticks" even cold!
>
>What do you think? Oil pump? Main Bearings? Cam Bearings?
>Rebuild?

It depends on how much money you want to spend. If you want to keep it
cheap and simple, use thicker oil. Try using diesel oil (15w-40). If the
pressure comes up to a resonable level - like at least 15lbs hot idle, it
will work till you decide what you want to do with the motor. With the
pressures you have now, your going to wipe, or worse, spin a bearing in no
time.

What weight oil are you using now? Changing the pump or using thicker oil
is a temporary fix. Your best bet is to drop in a fresh motor, but that
depends on how and how much you use the vehicle.


Mike

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:26:49 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Rattling Rocker Arms

well, 0 lbs ain't good. new oil pump minimum and maybe bearings. i
wouldn't worry about cam bearings at all. these are better left to a shop
and require alot more work tahn mains and rod bearings. and when you put
in a new oil pump, use a new oil pump shaft. it is always a good idea.

sleddog



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From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com[SMTP:tfmf211 murphyfarms.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 1998 7:08 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Rattling Rocker Arms

Well guys,

I put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on my 360 this weekend
and found the following:

At idle cold, 10lbs
At idle hot, 0lbs or close to it.
At 2000 rpm cold, 45lbs.

At speeds between 35 to 55 mph, 35 to 40 lbs

The truck still "ticks" even cold!

What do you think? Oil pump? Main Bearings? Cam Bearings?
Rebuild?

Ted Freeman
'68 Ranger






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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:34:34 -0500
From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
Subject: looking for

hey guys anyone got a seat out of 1993 to 1996 F150 to F350 the
40-20-40 type laying around for sale looking for 1 to put in a F250 .
1979
4x4 red or burgundy thanx :~)
RANDY
1970 F100
351w ( with a THUMP THUMP THUMP ) :~(

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 19:31:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Digest topic filtering

Since the practice of replying to the digests without using a
subject has continued I've added a filter to all the lists that
will rejected any post that starts with (depends on the list):

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Such posts will be rejected. Unfortunately, these rejections
will will not send notification of the rejection. Such posts
simply disappear into the "bit bucket." When replying to the
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Hopefully this change will make the list messages easier to
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Later,
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:36:25 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck

Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:22:21 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck

>>>You can go to any U-Haul and rent for a weekend a flatbed trailer.
They
have several trailer types. Most will only lift the front of the towed
vehicle but for anything "fragile", definitely spend the extra on the
flatbed trailer. You have to reserve them in advance so they can get the
trailer to your location in time. Whereabouts in North Carolina are you?
We're in Hillsborough.

Chris Hedemark

Chris, and all. Thanks for the info. I talked to the guy I am buying it
from and he says a tow dolly will work. I still would like to use a
trailer since it has been setting for 6 years and not registered. I am
going to be dragging this thing across two states and would not like to
take any chances.

Does anyone know if a trailer hitch rated at 1,000# tongue/10,000# towing
will handle a trailer and a 5,000# truck?

Chris I live about 45 minutes from you in Raleigh. From your web site I
see you are a transplant, welcome to the South. We should get together
sometime and eat BBQ, cole slaw, brunswick stew, hush puppies, pecan pie,
drink ice tea and talk trucks.


Jon E. Purut
Pickup65 juno.com
JCPurut worldnet.att.net
Web Site Under Construction

1964 F350 Dually (coming this saturday)
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