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fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, March 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 130



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In this issue:

Re: 352 vs 360 [BULL229 ]
460 into '66 F100 2WD? (was "STRONG 360") ["Chris Hedemark"
Re: New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law ["Chris Hedemark"
Re: Frenched antennas [Stu Varner ]
Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks [Stu Varner
Re: VIN location on frame [Stu Varner ]
Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
FS: '78 Sacramento area [Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)]
RE: 352 vs 360 [Sleddog ]
RE: Anti-sway bars and shocks [Sleddog ]
RE: 460 aftermarket [Sleddog ]
Re: Pay cash ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 460 into '66 F100 2WD? (was "STRONG 360") ["Gary, 78 BBB"
For sale up North [Rab Rawlins ]
Re: STRONG 360 [sdelanty ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #120 [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave W]
Re: For sale up North [Gardner ]
RE: 352 vs 360 [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
'74 F100 4x4 Q's [Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)]
RE: Converting a pickup to tow truck [RL ]
Re: For sale up North [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Vehicle lifts :-) ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
390 Peformance [Dan Koster ]
RE: Vehicle lifts :-) ["Gillespie, John D." ]
RE: Vehicle lifts :-) ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: STRONG 360 [DGholsM ]
40speed o.d. Transmission Exchanges [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Vehicle lifts :-) ["Deacon" ]

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:10:28 EST
From: BULL229
Subject: Re: 352 vs 360

All passenger car and light truck FE's 352/360/490/428. had 352 cast into the
block. Matter of fact I thought all FE's had this until I bought a 427, which
has HP cast into it. They are all the same block design and use the same
casting, with some difference only in some of the later 428's.

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:05:05 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: 460 into '66 F100 2WD? (was "STRONG 360")

>I have a 460 so I really can't comment on the small engines :-) Just
>kidding, I also have a 351M (or 400, don't know) and it gets me here
>and there but I stil want another 460, sorry if that offends anyone
>:-) (not really :-))


Is there a lot involved with dropping a 460 into a 66 F100? I agree that
even a bone stock 460 engine is a real stump puller. Unfortunately it gets
left in the dust when it comes to other attributes such as fuel economy.

Anyway, back to the 66. I'd like to put in a 460 and C6 or AOD trans. Are
parts relatively available for this swap? Will this stuff fit without
cutting the truck to little peices? Perspiring minds want to know.

If this isn't very doable, what about a smallblock like a 351W? It's not as
powerful as a 460, but has a nice balance of power with practicality for
those who commute or don't want to stop for every gas station. Parts are
much cheaper and more available, too, thanks to the 5.0L Mustang
aftermarket.

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:10:46 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law

>They'll never pass a bill like this in Idaho....truck country!


I'll bet that's what they thought in New Jersey. All though the northern
parts (where the powermongers are) is fairly urbanized and generally a dump
thanks to their wise ruling, the southern parts of the state are mostly
rural and the 4x4 is the prime mode of transportation. For many families it
is a *must* because of the way it seems that most everyone is either right
in town, or out in the boonies so who knows when the snow plow will get to
your road (if ever) if you live in the boonies.

Many trucks are used dual purpose and it makes good sense to lift the truck
2 or 3 inches and put some decent tires on it because otherwise it's a pain
to have the tractor pulling you out of the pastures all the time.

So just because your state looks like "truck country", don't assume that the
lawmakers are looking out for your best interests.

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:30:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: Frenched antennas

At 12:26 PM 3/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
> I'm looking for details on how to or a magazine or book article on
> frenching radio antennas into truck cabs. Actually anywhere is ok,
> the procedure is what I'm looking for. Like installing drain...how
> deep to make it, cutting the tube etc.. I'd like to add this to my
> cab and now's the time to do it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> john

I think I saw an article in April 98 Custom Classic Trucks about Frenched
antennas.
STU
Nuke GM!

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:33:50 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks

> So how about some shock suggestions?
>
>
Decon,
I have heard Heckathorn shocks are good. Marko is planning on a
set for his BIG MERC and I aim to put a set on my 71 4x4. They, by the way,
are made in Dyersburg, TN just a few miles from home!
STU
Nuke GM!

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:41:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: VIN location on frame

At 09:06 AM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Thanks for your message at 07:56 AM 3/5/98 -0600, Stu Varner. Your message
>was:
>>At 08:38 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Stu writes: >>where on the Frame is the vin located on a 71 ?????? I
>>>was unaware they put the VIN on the frame. Is this a stoopid
>>>question????
>>>
>
>
>I got an answer to this months ago, regarding the frame location of the
>VIN. The reply was just infront of the cab on the passenger side of the
>frame

I checked last night on my 71 model, the VIN is about 8 inches behind the
Radiator support on the passengers side stamped into the top of the frame
just as plain as day.
I looked right in front of the cab forever and then began looking towards
the front of the cab. Sure enough, there it was. Thanks for all the help!
STU
Nuke GM!

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:14 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:03:49 -0800

> going 70 mph) at every bend in the freeway it felt like I was riding
> a one legged fat man. It took a few corrections after each bend till
> the weight settled. I should have bought shocks at the same time but
> I was at the tire store for 4 hours and needed to leave.
> So how about some shock suggestions?

There is a science to this if you are racing but In my experience if
you have shocks on it and they function then you have shocks. With
my trucks I tend to get heavy duty gas shocks in the largest diameter
I can find but can't say for sure that it really matters. What does
matter is that you have "some kind" of shock on all four corners and
they work as designed.

If you've changed the suspension by adding leafs or shims you may
want to take some full droop measurments, full compression (can be
calculated from full droop using bump stops and axle etc.) and closed
and open shock length required due to mount locations and these two
specs.. What can happen is the droop will excede the shock extension
and you will eventually pull the mounts off or the reverse can happen
and the shock will act as the bump stop and push the mounts off.
Normally it's not a problem but if you change anything or plan to run
on very rough terrain it's a good idea to check these things out.

The well proven theory is that the spring should be able to
completely absorb the hardest impact you anticipate hitting while the
shock has to control the spring rebound. There should be very little
compression damping in most instances. This is where such shocks as
the Bilstiens and Mullhollands and Koni's shine since they can be
built with over the counter parts to any spec you want in your own
garage but they reflect this advanced technology in their price too
:-(

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:16:02 -0800
From: Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)
Subject: FS: '78 Sacramento area

Following my FS post a couple of days ago for
a '71 needing engine work, someone asked that
I keep an eye out for a '78/'79 something or other.
Seems that I nuked the message (sorry) so I
can't tell if this one meets their requirements.

Pmail again what you're looking for.

Here's what I did find in the local paper (The Union)
which can be found at www.theunion.com BTW.

'78 Ford 1 ton, 460 engine, AT, 82k original miles,
new tires, new battery, PS, PB, AC $2200/obo
530-432-8531

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:38:39 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 352 vs 360

i thought that the 427 had a different cylinder. the cyl had more material
added in 4 places so that it looked kind of like a square with a hole in
it. is this right? i thought this was done to get the bigger bore into
the FE block and still retain cyl wall stiffness.

anybody??

sleddog

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From: BULL229[SMTP:BULL229 aol.com]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 6:10 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: 352 vs 360

All passenger car and light truck FE's 352/360/490/428. had 352 cast into
the
block. Matter of fact I thought all FE's had this until I bought a 427,
which
has HP cast into it. They are all the same block design and use the same
casting, with some difference only in some of the later 428's.






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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:02:33 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Anti-sway bars and shocks

i think the best shocks i ever used are the rancho 9000 series. in my
d*doge i run them at the four corners set at the #2 or #3 setting and
sometimes for towing at #4 in the rear. on my 77 f150 i have them in front
and they when set on #3 improved handling like it improved when i put in
all new ball joints, bushings, etc. the adjustablity is nice and i have
never noticed any "fade".

sleddog

ps-i think they are worth the price even though are more expensive than
many models and brands.

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From: Stu Varner[SMTP:varners ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 2:33 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks


> So how about some shock suggestions?
>
>
Decon,
I have heard Heckathorn shocks are good. Marko is planning on a
set for his BIG MERC and I aim to put a set on my 71 4x4. They, by the
way,
are made in Dyersburg, TN just a few miles from home!
STU
Nuke GM!







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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:56:05 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 460 aftermarket

i keep hearing that the aftermarket suport for the 460 is not there. why
do i hear this? the 460 doesn't need many aftermarket parts to make a very
strong street motor or even street/strip. they work very well with stock
parts and a little blueprinting and a good cam, and a little grinding in
the exhaust port up to more power than most people can use.

now when you want even more power, there is plenty of support. sure, not
alot of choices as far as cranks, blocks, heads, but enough to say the
support is there. if you want a million different choices, buy one of
those bowtie things. in the last couple of years, as ford has almost
abandoned the 385 series, the aftermarket has expanded its coverage.

the biggest problem with the aftermarket support, is the price of the
componants. but, now even the CJ heads fully assembled are only a little
over $2000, and that is well in line with other engines.

my first 460 build i thought there was no support, but i am finding new
sources all the time for anything i could want (and not afford :( ).
even the hemi headed 385's are getting big support, although only for the
big buck racers.

as for fuel economy, the late model 460 with AOD can get good mileage (over
12 mpg, is that good?) and make good power still retaining emmisions
componants as a local guy i know has shown me. he pulled with his daily
driver and did quite well for a fuel injected daily driver. he had a new
cam, chip, k&n, headers, and i think underdrive pullys.

sorry to go on and on, but i think the 460's aftermarket support is getting
a worse reputation than it deserves.

sleddog

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From: Chris Hedemark[SMTP:chris yonderway.com]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 7:05 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: 460 into '66 F100 2WD? (was "STRONG 360")

If this isn't very doable, what about a smallblock like a 351W? It's not
as
powerful as a 460, but has a nice balance of power with practicality for
those who commute or don't want to stop for every gas station. Parts are
much cheaper and more available, too, thanks to the 5.0L Mustang
aftermarket.

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com








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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:11:03 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Pay cash

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: Pay cash
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:19:36 -0800

> This is my Saxophone, I play just what I feel. So don't call me
> Christian, call me Deacon Blues!

My son plays a pretty mean sax and knows almost all the players and
songs He got to play and mix in Washington during the Clinton
festivities with Aretha Franklin's group among others and had a good
time up there. I don't know how you guys know all that stuff!? I
just listen and enjoy and couldn't sing one word of even my favorite
songs. (I can hum along tho) Guess I'm just not into it :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:25:55 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 460 into '66 F100 2WD? (was "STRONG 360")

> From: "Chris Hedemark"
> Subject: 460 into '66 F100 2WD? (was "STRONG 360")
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:05:05 -0500

> Is there a lot involved with dropping a 460 into a 66 F100? I agree
> that even a bone stock 460 engine is a real stump puller.
> Unfortunately it gets left in the dust when it comes to other
> attributes such as fuel economy.

Can't say for sure but with L&L or Advance Adapters mounts the rest
is just basic hole drilling and finding the right brackets to mount
accessories, manifolds for the truck application etc.. Along with
radiator change for better temp control you should be all set :-)

As to economy, I've stated this recently that a truck uses x amount
of gas regardless of the engine size but tuning CAN make a differnce.
I fully expect to get 15 mpg out of my next 460 installation in the
bronco. I get 12 in the Pu right now with very poor tuning and C-6
wide ratio with 2.75 gears. You need to match your gears to the
intended use and with a 460 on the highway 2k rpm at 60 is a good
plan depending on what cam you use. You can get the rpm lower with
the right cam but then you have no top end like mine. I believe with
a differnt cam and 3.00 gears I could improve the economy in the PU
and gain some top end as well but that's my next project :-)

> If this isn't very doable, what about a smallblock like a 351W?

I will venture to say here that the 351W or 351M/400 will be just as
hard if not harder to do than the 460 since they are not as popular a
swap and the aftermarket support isn't there to the same degree.

The only problem I see potentially is interferance with the steering
box depending on where it's located on the 66 and this can usually be
fixed with the right accessory brackets. It may take some Junk yard
hunting to find what you need for that.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 08:28:11 -0700
From: Rab Rawlins
Subject: For sale up North

First off. My apologizes to the fellow that e-mailed me about the cattle
catcher grill guard in Alberta. My computers been acting up.Yes I would
like to see a pic of it. 2nd. If you had your gas tank Profesionally
cleaned you shouldn't be seeing residue in your filter bowl. I think
this is coming from your fuel lines. Check them out especially the
rubber ones.
I don't now if the rest of you guys and girls are interested in seeing
what's available up here, but I know there has been interest in older
Merc's. If you don't want to see this sort of stuff just let me know.

67 Merc 1 ton, flat deck, good engine, good wheels, passed safety $800
403.830.xxxx
57 Merc 1 ton dually with dual ram hoist, good all round working cond.
$800, 403.327.xxxx
66 Merc 4x4, 390 4 sp., P.B.,propane, other options, $3500 obo
403.687.xxxx
Remember kids those are Canadian $$$$. U.S. would be 30-40% less than
that. There's lots more too. If interested E-mail or post and I'll send
you details.

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:16:35 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: STRONG 360


> AND WHATS WITH ALL THE 360 ABUSE
>
> DMG

No 360 abuse from me. I've got respect for all FE's...
The FE360 is a strong and durable motor and with a little work can
make good torque and HP.
It's just that the 390 makes quite a bit more and usually returns the
same or better gas mileage than the 360 doing it.
Hell, when I bought mine I *thought* I was getting a 360 and was plenty
happy to have it! When it turned out to be 390 I was ecstatic...

Happy motoring,

Steve

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:23:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #120

- -> Sorry I have to disagree. In a rollover the cab is likely to tweak (
- -> like a parallelogram => /____/ )and in such a case the filler
- -> hose / neck might break off

The Safety Act of 1968 specifies allowable distortion in rollover, etc.
See CFR Title 49 for details. In any case, a rollover is a relatively
rare occurrence compared to getting T-boned by some dork who doesn't
understand what a red octagon with "STOP" means.


- -> IMHO, between the frame rails is the safest place ( not outboard of
- -> the frame rails like the chevy's )

Sure, where you have to trickle gas through three feet of pipe because
it wants to burp it out on your shoes. Also conveniently near the
driveshaft and exhaust system to rip the tank open and set it on fire in
a collision.


- -> So why did they stop?

The space behind the seat is primo storage area. When they started
downsizing "full size" trucks the cabs got shorter and there was no room
to put anything between the tank and the seat any more.

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:45:34 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: For sale up North

Rab Rawlins wrote:
>
> First off. My apologizes to the fellow that e-mailed me about the cattle
> catcher grill guard in Alberta. My computers been acting up.Yes I would
> like to see a pic of it. 2nd. If you had your gas tank Profesionally
> cleaned you shouldn't be seeing residue in your filter bowl. I think
> this is coming from your fuel lines. Check them out especially the
> rubber ones.
> I don't now if the rest of you guys and girls are interested in seeing
> what's available up here, but I know there has been interest in older
> Merc's. If you don't want to see this sort of stuff just let me know.
>
> 67 Merc 1 ton, flat deck, good engine, good wheels, passed safety $800
> 403.830.xxxx
> 57 Merc 1 ton dually with dual ram hoist, good all round working cond.
> $800, 403.327.xxxx
> 66 Merc 4x4, 390 4 sp., P.B.,propane, other options, $3500 obo
> 403.687.xxxx
> Remember kids those are Canadian $$$$. U.S. would be 30-40% less than
> that. There's lots more too. If interested E-mail or post and I'll send
> you details.
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Any 56 half tons?

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:50:16 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: RE: 352 vs 360

>i thought that the 427 had a different cylinder. the cyl had more material
>added in 4 places so that it looked kind of like a square with a hole in
>it. is this right? i thought this was done to get the bigger bore into
>the FE block and still retain cyl wall stiffness.
>
>anybody??
>
>sleddog
>

Yup, you are right, they 'squared off' the outsides of the cylinder casting
for strength. I think on the 428's they just thickened the whole wall.
This I remember from Steve Christ's book (or was it Pat Ganahl's, or both?)


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:57:46 -0800
From: Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)
Subject: '74 F100 4x4 Q's

Hey y'all -
Got a message from someone who had troubles
getting parts for the following truck, and just curious
if what he says about it not being available is true.
Fun stuff for a Friday.

* * * * * *
One of my
first vehicles was a 1974 Ford F-100 short bed, fleet side, 4 x 4. It
was a medium metallic green, had the 360 c.i. engine, and a 4 speed (3
w/ an underdrive) manual Dana New Process (Dodge) tranny. It had the
staight axle (no I-beams) and coil springs up front, and the three leaf
1/2 ton spring stack in the rear. No frills, strickly stump pulling,
snow plowing power. Had it lifted 4" all around with 33" tires. But
every (every!) time I went for parts from Fords, it was the same
thing-that truck doesn't come with that combination of powertrain, or
undercarriage, or trim. It got stolen.
* * * * * * *


Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:09:32 -0600 (CST)
From: RL
Subject: RE: Converting a pickup to tow truck

The other day walking to my dorm I noticed a 73 and up pickup and it was
converted to a tow truck but it still had the factory bed with out the
tailgate. How does one do this and is it safe to do? I would assume you
could rip the bed off if the tow car was too heavy unless it was welded
on or something.
Thanks
Ryan

1971 Torino 500, 1971 F-100, 1977 Hornet Sportabout,
1978 New Yorker e-mail: st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9027
Fairlane Club of America, American Station Wagon Owners
Association

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:11:50 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: For sale up North

>Any 56 half tons?


I got one, running gear was a bit bastardized by the last owner (v*lare rear
end) but the body's quite solid.

It's a ford though.

email privately if you want to talk further


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:11:02 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Vehicle lifts :-)

Well, I got some good news on my lift project. Seems the "Rotary
Lift Co" has one that's all one unit and rests on the floor but is
inserted into a hole in the floor roughly 103" deep and is fully self
contained in a fiberglass tub so no oil can leak out into the ground
in case of a leak.

Price deliverd to my barn and unloaded for me is $5098 and it has a
9k# capacity. Only thing I don't like about it is the 57.5" column
centers. I prefer the 88.5" centers for more working room under the
vehicle. This is an electric over hydraulic and has a power supply
that mounts on the wall near the lift with a simple two hose hook up.

Question I have is how do you backfill a hole that's covered up by
concrete and steel??? Maybe the cover plate can be removed and
there's room to back fill? Salesman is sending installation
instructions in the mail so I'll know next week some time how it all
works. He's going to give me a list of references too so I can go
look as some installed and ask some questions hopefully of the
owners.

Can you tell from the way I tyyyyyypppppeeee that I'm
eeeeexxxxxxxiiiiiiittttttteeeeeddddd?

Let's see, now all I need is the tranny jack on casters and .......
and ......:-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:13:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: 390 Peformance

>
> Somebody on this list a few months ago put the Edelbrock Performer
intake
> on his 390 which he said resulted in much crisper throttle response.
I put
> electronic ignition in my 360 which is always a good idea,

Where did you get the electronic ignition? and, what did it take to
set it up?


> At the same time, I put on a 4bbl intake and a 600cfm Edelbrock carb.
> I'm rethinking that setup, but it works pretty well.

For what reasons are you rethinking your setup?


_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:26:03 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: Vehicle lifts :-)

Well it looks like that you are getting closer to what you wanted in a
lift. But what about the air compressor or has that want been scratched
by the boss? Inquiring minds want to know.....:-)

-----Original Message-----
From:Gary, 78 BBB [SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent:Friday, March 06, 1998 5:11 AM
To:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Cc:bigbroncos unix.off -road. com
Subject:Vehicle lifts :-)

Well, I got some good news on my lift project. Seems the
"Rotary
Lift Co" has one that's all one unit and rests on the floor but
is
inserted into a hole in the floor roughly 103" deep and is fully
self
contained in a fiberglass tub so no oil can leak out into the
ground
in case of a leak.

Price deliverd to my barn and unloaded for me is $5098 and it
has a
9k# capacity. Only thing I don't like about it is the 57.5"
column
centers. I prefer the 88.5" centers for more working room under
the
vehicle. This is an electric over hydraulic and has a power
supply
that mounts on the wall near the lift with a simple two hose
hook up.

Question I have is how do you backfill a hole that's covered up
by
concrete and steel??? Maybe the cover plate can be removed and
there's room to back fill? Salesman is sending installation
instructions in the mail so I'll know next week some time how it
all
works. He's going to give me a list of references too so I can
go
look as some installed and ask some questions hopefully of the
owners.

Can you tell from the way I tyyyyyypppppeeee that I'm
eeeeexxxxxxxiiiiiiittttttteeeeeddddd?

Let's see, now all I need is the tranny jack on casters and
.......
and ......:-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:20:03 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Vehicle lifts :-)

> From: "Gillespie, John D."
> Subject: RE: Vehicle lifts :-)
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:26:03 -0800

> Well it looks like that you are getting closer to what you wanted in
> a lift. But what about the air compressor or has that want been
> scratched by the boss? Inquiring minds want to know.....:-)

Already have the compressor, just not enough juice to run it :-(
Sucks the whole county dry when it starts :-) Down side to this is I
won't need that big a compressor now that I'm getting electric over
oil instead of air over oil. Guess I'll have to do a lot of blasting
to feel like it's a good investmemt :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:00:48 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: Re: STRONG 360

Another question: I don't know what the Ford 4sp O/D transmissions are
called, but will one bolt onto the bellhousing of a 71 F350 w/360 and a New
Process 435 w/granny gear? And if not what are my Transmissions options
staying with a manual shift?

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:12:11 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: 40speed o.d. Transmission Exchanges

>Another question: I don't know what the Ford 4sp O/D transmissions are
>called, but will one bolt onto the bellhousing of a 71 F350 w/360 and a New
>Process 435 w/granny gear? And if not what are my Transmissions options
>staying with a manual shift?

I have this same question too. The NP 435 I have now is a monster but built
for pulling railway cars, not for neck-snapping performance or for cruising
down the highway. And the np's are just noisy no matter what. I would love
to do what you want to do, too. So I figured I'd rename the thread so
people wouldn't skip this post.


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:27:07 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Vehicle lifts :-)

From: Gary, 78 BBB
>Already have the compressor, just not enough juice to run it....


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