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fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, March 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 128



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In this issue:

Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks ["Deacon" ]
Re: STRONG 360 [Don Grossman ]
Re: STRONG 360 [Stu Varner ]
75/76 F-150 Sell It? ["hulse" ]
Reply: 460 swap ["Harvey, Blaine" ]
Re: STRONG 360 [DGholsM ]
Re: STRONG 360 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Pay cash [am14 chrysler.com]
swaybars [am14 chrysler.com]
Frenched antennas [jniolon uss.com]
Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals [Charles Morley ]
Re: Frenched antennas ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Oil pan removel [am14 chrysler.com]
Forged [am14 chrysler.com]
Cruise-o-matic vs C4 [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Forged ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Cruise-O-Matic vs C4 [am14 chrysler.com]
'71 F350 [am14 chrysler.com]
RE:Rattling Rocker Arms [Mike Schwall ]
Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals [Mike Schwall ]
Re: Cruise-O-Matic vs C4 ["Kevin Leone" ]
Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals [Charles Morley ]
Re: STRONG 360 [Dennis Pearson ]
Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals [Firrer ]
Re: 390 for '61; ["JAMES MERLO" ]
Re: Rear disk brakes this time [FoMoCoNUT2 ]
Re: Rear disk brakes this time [Don Grossman ]
Re: Electronic Ignition [GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)]
FOMOCO 9" axles in Chebbie 12 bolt? [Tyler Wilkins ]
Re: '71 F350 [DGholsM ]
RE: New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law [Randy Collins
Re: Airborne? ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]
Re: Pay cash ["Deacon" ]
Re: 390 for '61; [Dan Koster ]

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:03:49 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Anti-sway bars and shocks

From: Gary
> Biggest thing they do is keep the truck from
>getting into a body roll contest when loaded or under heavy braking
>and in turns. If you have good shocks and suspension they are less
>necessary

Good morning!
Your describing my symptoms. Going straight it felt fine (I was
going 70 mph) at every bend in the freeway it felt like I was riding a
one legged fat man. It took a few corrections after each bend till the
weight settled. I should have bought shocks at the same time but I was
at the tire store for 4 hours and needed to leave.
So how about some shock suggestions?


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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:25:52 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: STRONG 360

DGholsM wrote:

> I HAVE A 1971 F350 W/360 AND A NEW PROCESS 4 SPEED TRANNY IT .....



I refuse to reply until you change your tone of voice.


- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and on board air.

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:32:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: STRONG 360

AND WHATS WITH ALL THE
>360 ABUSE
>
>
>I think they call it CUBE envy
>

I have it with my 360........Marko doesn't have cube envy anymore, the lucky
stiff!
Stu
Nuke GM!

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:12:02 -0700
From: "hulse"
Subject: 75/76 F-150 Sell It?

Lurker Here...
This is a GREAT group I wish I could match even one of you for knowledge of
Fords...

I own a 75 390 and F100 body on a 76 F150 4X4 4speed with manual hubs. I
switched it from an automatic 2 wheel 10 years ago. During this transition
I also removed as many extra hoses, non-functioning (useless?) parts I
could, plugged exhaust air injection exhaust ports and generally cleaned up
the area around the engine.... It ran and didn't seem to affect the fuel
economy, as far as I was concerned I did good.

My problems are; I would like to restore(?)/rebuild this truck and add
some extra Hp and torque if possible. After lurking about this group I am
now concerned about the emissions produced by this current set up and the
cost of returning all those lost parts.

Am I worried for no reason?
Would I be better off selling this truck and purchasing an older model?
Would I be "in regs" by using the propane unit I have laying around?


I live in far eastern Colorado currently, if I were to move I would stay in
Central USA.
MT. SD. NE. NM. OK. Sorry for the long post. I wanted to cover as many
bases as possible.

Thanks a bunch..

Brad in Colorado
75/76 F150 390 4X4

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:38:00 -0500
From: "Harvey, Blaine"
Subject: Reply: 460 swap

Thanks, Gary, for the quick response. Very helpful, as have been the
posts about overheating problems. It is spooky how much knowledge this
member ship list represents.

The closest source for the 460 mounts (they sell headers for the
application as well) were D and B sales, Morrice, Michigan. $100 U.S.
I am sure they are L and L items, as you said.

I couldn't seem to find a website for L and L. Probably that means they
don't have one but with me that isn't a given.

Just a general note, that there are at least three informative articles
re: Ford rear ends, Ford swaps, 460 build etc in trucking/car craft/ etc
mags on the shelf this month.

> He wants to install the 460 into a 79 F-250 (C-6) 4x4 with a beat
> 351M and has no idea how to proceed with motor mounts, pans etc.
> because it the mounting is different than the 2wd donor truck and
> the '79.

The list goes something like this:

Van or 4x4 oil pan, dipstick and tube
L&L or Advance adapters mounts
Right side truck manifold or headers made for his application
New radiator may be necessary to handle extra heat
All accessory brackets must be made to fit the 460, other engines
have different mount points and shapes.
4X4 transmission tail shaft and housing with 4x4 xfer case adapter
May require new drive shaft, depends on application

Some have installed them without changing the pan, depends on
application.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:40:17 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: Re: STRONG 360

Okay my shift key was stuck.
I have a 1971 F350 with a 360 and a New Process 4/speed tranny it was has a
dually rear end on it but after market wheels I am wondering will the new
style Ford wheels work on it if I put a Fleetside bed instead of a step-side
bed. It is same truck I purchased for $400 and sat for 8 years and all it
needed was a coil. And what's with all this 360 bashing mine made it from
Atlanta, Ga. to Mobile, Al. in 3hrs. and 33 min. that's a 336 mile trip and I
only stopped for gas once. Any help would be greatly appreciated. And sorry
for all the yelling.

dmg

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:05:03 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: STRONG 360

> From: DGholsM
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:40:17 EST
> Subject: Re: STRONG 360

> coil. And what's with all this 360 bashing mine made it from
> Atlanta, Ga. to Mobile, Al. in 3hrs. and 33 min. that's a 336 mile
> trip and I only stopped for gas once. Any help would be greatly

For all it's size it's not very inspiring in the power department or
the economy dept either. It's really no different from the 352 in
that regard and due to emission controls may not even be as good in
those areas. The 390 just seems to have the right combination of
parts to make a fairly vast improvement in both areas over the 360 or
352 which is one reason it's so popular. Since trucks are heavy and
many of us still like to feel the sensation of power we yearn for
bigger engines so the 360 gets left in the dust. If it does what you
want then, for you, it's a good engine :-)

I have a 460 so I really can't comment on the small engines :-) Just
kidding, I also have a 351M (or 400, don't know) and it gets me here
and there but I stil want another 460, sorry if that offends anyone
:-) (not really :-))

I've had several 352's and my brother had the 360 and they got us
around but not like a 460 does :-) I once set the back end of my 68
on a cement step (unknowingly) with a load of hey which bottomed out
the suspension and when it wouldn't move revved it as high as I dared
and eased out the clutch with my foot to the floor and it stalled the
engine????? Wonder why??? Wonder what a 460 would have done there?

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:11:48 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Pay cash

Deacon writes: >>I need to show three forms of ID to pay cash!

Now thats pretty bad. Where did you get the handle "deacon" ???

Azie


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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:11:50 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: swaybars

Gary writes: >>Anti-sway bars will help even more loaded than empty
but help all the time really. Biggest thing they do is keep the truck
from getting into a body roll contest when loaded or under heavy
braking and in turns. If you have good shocks and suspension they are
less necessary but I like them on my bronco for sure, it handles like a
Ferrari in turns. The only place they are out of place is off road on
really rough terrain where they limit articulation. On the road you
don't need articulation

I might add the vehicle will ride a good bit stiffer (read harsher),
but well worth the extra wear & tear on the occupants.
JMOH

Azie

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: Frenched antennas


I'm looking for details on how to or a magazine or book article on
frenching radio antennas into truck cabs. Actually anywhere is ok,
the procedure is what I'm looking for. Like installing drain...how
deep to make it, cutting the tube etc.. I'd like to add this to my
cab and now's the time to do it.

Thanks in advance

john

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:33:53 -0800
From: Charles Morley
Subject: Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals

Alan Mittelstaedt / Chad Dailey wrote:
>
> Ray--
>
> Try here. I had good luck.
>
> Irv Bishko Auto Literature
> 14550 Watt Road
> Novelty, Ohio 44072
> (440) 338-4811
>
> He seemed like a nice enough dude over the phone, and sent my books
> right away. The stuff I got was absolutely first rate, but not dirt
> cheap. I paid $25/volume for three volume set. He also has service
> bulletins, parts books, owners manuals, and a bunch of other stuff. You
> might try giving him a call. Hope I helped.

You can also use 800-544-3312. I got that number from Helms. Ordered a
set of '78 books. And yes they are pricey. $139.00 US for a set of five
books. But, if you need 'em you need 'em.

Charles

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:44:24 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Frenched antennas

> From: jniolon uss.com
> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:26 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Frenched antennas

> I'm looking for details on how to or a magazine or book article
> on frenching radio antennas into truck cabs. Actually anywhere
> is ok, the procedure is what I'm looking for. Like installing
> drain...how deep to make it, cutting the tube etc.. I'd like
> to add this to my cab and now's the time to do it.

No how to, but there's a pic of one in the April Custom Classic
Trucks mag on page 64 showing it on the rear door frame (B pillar?).
Can you get good reception in that location? I've got a nice power
antenna I'd like to get hooked up but the dang thing won't fit in my
front fender in the original location, darn it!

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:52:54 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Oil pan removel

Ted writes: >>I am going to pick up a mechanical guage today to check
my oil pressure. From what I understand it should be between 40 and 50
lbs, right? If it's less than that, I'll need to change the oil pump?

I'll install the guage this weekend (I hope, looks like rain) and
let you know what it says.

I've looked at the pan on my 360 and it is very close to the chasis
crossmember. To drop the pan to get to the oil pump, will I need
to lift the motor, or will the pan slide out from underneath?

Actually 20/25# hot(normal operating temp) idling will suffice for
many miles. This would equate to 50# plus cold, I would think. Now
if you were working on a NEWLY REBUILT engine, the 50# would be more
accurate, but we're talking about an older engine here.

The pan is not easy to get off, but is doable. I lift the engine
until the bellhousing touches the cowl, block it up with 2X4 wooden
blocks(you have to remove the nuts under the motor mounts) under the
motor mounts, then start loosening pan bolts. (Remove the dipstick
before you start). You may have to rotate the crankshaft to clear the
counterweights and you
may have to remove the oilpump pickup tube and maybe even the oilpump,
but I don't think
the removel of the pump is necessary. This is all I can think of.

Good luck.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:02:48 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Forged

Gary: Thanks for the explaination of FORGING. I think now I
understand. I've always known about them being better for hi revving
hot rods, but I never really understood the process nor the why. Now I
think I do. I appreciate you taking the time.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:08:36 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Cruise-o-matic vs C4



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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:09:35 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Forged

> From: am14 chrysler.com
> Subject: Forged
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:02:48 -0500

> Gary: Thanks for the explaination of FORGING. I think now I
> understand. I've always known about them being better for hi
> revving hot rods, but I never really understood the process nor the
> why. Now I think I do. I appreciate you taking the time.

No problem, Azie. I have two blacksmith forges at home too so I know
about that kind of forge as well. Never could get all the sulpher
out of my fire to make a good weld tho so my Damascus steel is more
like tempered glass :-) (after the ball bearing goes through it)
Tried to make a Samuri Sword once and wound up with a pile of high
carbon slag. Real hard to get an edge on stuff like that :-)


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:12:57 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Cruise-O-Matic vs C4

Dennis writes: >>OK. We all have "ignorant hot spots" or some such
thing. Maybe mine is just a soft place in my heart (and maybe my head)
for the old Cruise-o-matic. Is the C4 really better? Maybe I could
get some comments on the relative weaknesses of the Cruise-o-matic vs
the C4.

I,too, have a soft spot in my heart for the old Cruise-O-Matic. I
owned an old '56 Merc with one. It was the earlier version that had the
fins on the torque converter for cooling (read this as no lines to the
radiator for cooling). It took everything the old 312 could dish out
and it had some fairly good mods for the day.

I've never owned a C4, so I can't comment.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:31:45 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: '71 F350

DG writes: >>I HAVE A 1971 F350 W/360 AND A NEW PROCESS 4 SPEED TRANNY
IT HAS A DUALLY REAR -END WITH AFTER MARKET SINGLE WHEELS. i NEED TO
KNOW IF I CAN SAFELY PUT SINLE WHEELS ON IT LIKE THE NEWER F-250&350
HAVE TO MATCH THE FRONT WHEELS AND WHAT CAN I DO TO LOWER THE REAR
- -END. AND ALSO CNA I PUT A FLEET-SIDE BED
ONTO IT INSTEAD OF A STEP-SIDE. THIS IS THE SAME TRUCK I PURCHASED FOR
$400 THAT SAT FOR 8 YEARS AND ALL IT NEEDED WAS A COIL I AM PRESENTLY
TRYING TO RESTORE IT. ANY FEED BACK WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND
WHATS WITH ALL THE 360 ABUSE

Yes on the single wheels. The F250 and F350 (At least in the years of
this list) carry the same 8 lug bolt patterns for the most part and
either will fit. (there were a few 6 lug, but most of these were
Railroad and Military). Yes on the bed, but your F350 I think has a
135"wb where the F250 has 133" wb.

Are you sure about your truck having a 360??? I thought the 360 was
introduced in 1972. Yours should be a 352 I think. Anyway the 360 is
reliable, but not exactly a power house. A 352 will outdo it anyday, as
long as both are stock, and get better mileage while doing it. A 390
will usually get as good mileage as a 360 and do a heck of a lot more
work.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:17:46 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: RE:Rattling Rocker Arms

At 09:58 AM 3/5/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Thanks Steve,Marko,George, Azie,Gary, Mike, DC and anyone
>else I may have missed.
>
>I am going to pick up a mechanical guage today to check my
>oil pressure. From what I understand it should be between
>40 and 50 lbs, right? If it's less than that, I'll need to change the
>oil pump?

Those pressures are at 2000 RPMs. At idle you generally want no less than
20 psi (hot).




>I've looked at the pan on my 360 and it is very close to the chasis
>crossmember. To drop the pan to get to the oil pump, will I need
>to lift the motor, or will the pan slide out from underneath?

Not too familiar with the 360, but you will probably have to lift the motor
since the oil pump pickup tube is down in the bottom of the oil pan.
Depending on how you feel about it, take the nuts off the motor mounts and
get a piece of 2x6 and cut a V in one end. Stick the V side on the
harmonic dampener and the other on a floor jack. Some people would get
their unders in a wad with this idea, but it's just an idea. That is if
you don't have access to an engine hoist/cherry picker.

Mike

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:24:17 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals

At 11:33 AM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>You can also use 800-544-3312. I got that number from Helms. Ordered a
>set of '78 books. And yes they are pricey. $139.00 US for a set of five
>books. But, if you need 'em you need 'em.
>
>Charles

I called Helms for service manuals for a '78 F150. They told me they are
no longer in production and I should contact Obsolete Ford. Go figure.

Mike

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 14:25:02 PST
From: "Kevin Leone"
Subject: Re: Cruise-O-Matic vs C4

>Dennis writes: >>OK. We all have "ignorant hot spots" or some such
>thing. Maybe mine is just a soft place in my heart (and maybe my head)
>for the old Cruise-o-matic. Is the C4 really better? Maybe I could
>get some comments on the relative weaknesses of the Cruise-o-matic vs
>the C4.
>
>Azie writes -I,too, have a soft spot in my heart for the old
Cruise-O-Matic. I
>owned an old '56 Merc with one. It was the earlier version that had the
>fins on the torque converter for cooling (read this as no lines to the
>radiator for cooling). It took everything the old 312 could dish out
>and it had some fairly good mods for the day.
>
>I've never owned a C4, so I can't comment.

Guys, I completly understand your "soft spot", and agree that it is a
reliable transmition. However, it's just not very power efficient. My 63
f-100's pumped up 292 does pretty damed good for a "Y" block, but I am
looking to put as much of the old faithful Y's power to the pavement as
possible. I don't think a c-4 would take extended amounts of towing
abuse as would a cruise-o-matic, but It is not possible to make a
cruise-o-matic shift like a c-4.
That's my dime's worth!

Kevin Leone
63 F-100 292 4v "Y" block
Y ask Y,
Y blocks never die!




______________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 14:38:30 -0800
From: Charles Morley
Subject: Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals

Mike Schwall wrote:
>
> At 11:33 AM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >You can also use 800-544-3312. I got that number from Helms. Ordered a
> >set of '78 books. And yes they are pricey. $139.00 US for a set of five
> >books. But, if you need 'em you need 'em.
> >
> >Charles
>
> I called Helms for service manuals for a '78 F150. They told me they are
> no longer in production and I should contact Obsolete Ford. Go figure.
>
Well Mike, I would give this fella a call. Coudn't hurt.

Charles

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 15:30:21 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: STRONG 360

Thanks for your message at 02:05 PM 3/5/98 +0000, Gary, 78 BBB. Your
message was:
with a load of hey

Could you even hear the engine revving?

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:24:57 EST
From: Firrer
Subject: Re: FT V2 #116, Manuals

hey i have a set of the 77 manuals with the wiring dia.will trade em for a 84
set or if u want ill scan anything u need in them
mike

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:07 -0600
From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: Re: 390 for '61;

what about the transmission? Do you have a T98A? Will this bolt to any
manual transmission bellhousing from a 390?

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> From: am14 chrysler.com
> To: Fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: 390 for '61;
> Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 10:23 AM
>
> Dan writes: >>
> Since we're all on the subject of engine mount problems, I'm wondering
> what will happen when I try to replace a tired 223 I6 with a rebuilt
> '61 FE 390 in my 63 F100 Unibody?
>
> Since the 292 was the V8 option in '61, I would think the motor mounts
> from the V8 would bolt to the 390 and it would be a drop in. Maybe the
> I6 stands are different from the V8, but this is a bolt in trhing.
>
> Azie
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:50:24 EST
From: FoMoCoNUT2
Subject: Re: Rear disk brakes this time

In a message dated 98-03-04 23:22:07 EST, you write:


In another side note I also found a power steering box and springs
still on a 78 4x4 F-250. This changes all my plans. I was going to
convert to a 77 F-150 coil spring suspension and steering but if I get
the F-250 stuff I might not have to and get to keep the leaf springs.
What to do What to do. >>

Don, stick with the leaf spring front end, really, so much more trouble free
and durable. Put it this way.. look at the 99 SD's.... I read a comment about
the return to the monobeam (straight axle) leaf spring settup that basicly
stated the design is so simple and time tested tough that it really has the
fancy suspension designers bummed out and looking for something else to
"overdesign".
Just my thoughts... by the way... this is one of the biggest reasons I drive
a
F-350 4x4 rather than a F-150 or F-250, However the the 99 SD F-250 has a good
old solid front axle setup too.

John Miller

96 F-350 4x4 w/ 460 and A4OD (with no troubles)
75 F-100, FE, C6 (supposed to saving miles on the 96, hmm when will this
start?)
68 F-250 4x4 future donor truck

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:45:24 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Rear disk brakes this time

FoMoCoNUT2 wrote:

> In a message dated 98-03-04 23:22:07 EST, you write:
>
>
> In another side note I also found a power steering box and springs
> still on a 78 4x4 F-250. This changes all my plans. I was going to
> convert to a 77 F-150 coil spring suspension and steering but if I get
> the F-250 stuff I might not have to and get to keep the leaf springs.
> What to do What to do. >>
>
> Don, stick with the leaf spring front end, really, so much more trouble free
> and durable. Put it this way.. look at the 99 SD's.... I read a comment about
> the return to the monobeam (straight axle) leaf spring settup that basicly
> stated the design is so simple and time tested tough that it really has the
> fancy suspension designers bummed out and looking for something else to
> "overdesign".
> Just my thoughts... by the way... this is one of the biggest reasons I drive
> a
> F-350 4x4 rather than a F-150 or F-250, However the the 99 SD F-250 has a good
> old solid front axle setup too.
>
> John Miller

Well I got back from the wreckers. I did it, I picked up the 78 power steering
box and springs( $65 for the box and $50 for the springs, hangers, and
shackles.) I am going to have to do a little boxing in the front end but it
shouldn't be a problem. Since I was there I also picked up the Eldorado calipers
and backing plates for templets. All I need now is the rotors and a good
weekend. I think for the springs and steering I will need a good week.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:57:46, -0500
From: GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition

>Howdy!
> I am here once again to pick everyones brain. I found out today
> that MSD, Mallory, and Excel do not make an aftermarket electronic
> distributor for my 292. My question is does anyone know where I
can get
> one of the conversion kits?
> Once again thank you for everyones time.
>
I opened my new (March/April) Summit Catalog to page 113. Part # MAA-
502 is the kit for 1957-74 Motorcraft single point Ignition. Price
$91.95. I have one along with a Mallory Promaster coil in my '71 351C-
4V. It works great, just be sure your distributor bearings and vacuum
diaphram are good.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 21:03:08 -0600
From: Tyler Wilkins
Subject: FOMOCO 9" axles in Chebbie 12 bolt?

A friend of mine (he's the chebbie man, I'm the FOMOCO nut) asked me
tonight if I wanted to sell him the axle shafts out of a Ford 9" I have
back in my shed. Seems these somehow bolt right into a chebbie 12 bolt,
he wanted to use the 9" axleshafts because of the availability of 9"
disc brake parts. Anyone else ever heard of this?

Tyler Wilkins

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:13:57 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: Re: '71 F350

I was rold it was a 360 but I have noticed 352 molded into the block on the
drivers side of the engine just above where the fuel pump sits. If it turns
out to be a 352 or 360 what are some simple ways to tweak out some more
horses? I have been thinking about an aluminum intake and headers.

darell

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:17:27 -0800
From: Randy Collins
Subject: RE: New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law


Just wanted to pass along some info. Last fall Colorado had a bill
introduced (SB-34) that would make it illegal to change any suspension
component including wheels/tires, ect... This bill was later amended with
help from the offroad commumity to basically apply to lifted trucks and was
finally killed completely by the work of truck enthusiast/offroad clubs in
Colorado.
In NJ, the laws governing lifting trucks is written into what is called the
"Administraive Code". This basically means a bill/law/vote is not needed to
change any part of this code. Well, a change was written to further
restrict lifted trucks. This change escalated into the current wording that
restricts suspension changes to +/- 1 inch. Thats right, +/-ONE inch. It
also supposedly has wording for retrictions on aftermarket lighting (and
even grill guards, nerf bars ect....) I wish I knew more, but since no
actual bill is proposed (it's not needed to change the law), it's not
something that can be looked up.


They'll never pass a bill like this in Idaho....truck country!


Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck"
460 SUPER COBRA JET
Short Block Completed...Stage II head work

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:33:04 PST
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: Airborne?

3 1/2 years, and I still cant figure out why anyone would jump out
of a perfictly good plane.

dopie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:19:36 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Pay cash

>Now thats pretty bad. Where did you get the handle "deacon" ???
>
>Azie

The name comes from a Steely Dan song "Deacon Blues". Jesus is my
God and Savior. I have no right to judge others given my own short
comings. Knowing his love was sufficient to save me keeps me from
thinking it will fall short for others.
This is my Saxophone, I play just what I feel. So don't call me
Christian, call me Deacon Blues!


Deacon Blues deconblu ....


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