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fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, March 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 126



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In this issue:

VIN location (was Re: 302 swap) [sdelanty ]
Re: Ticking sound [sdelanty ]
Re:Brake lock [sdelanty ]
Re: flywheels [sdelanty ]
disk brake conversion again [Richard Cherico ]
Electro/Hydaulic Brake Locks ["Deacon" ]
Re: electronic ignition [Thomas Shay ]
Re: Gas Filler ["Deacon" ]
Re: In Cab Fuel Tanks ["Deacon" ]
Re: Insurance Fraud (was Gas Filler) [danadeb pacbell.net]

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:40:01 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: VIN location (was Re: 302 swap)

>>> I do have a question concerning registration. Did they check your
>>> frame number
>>I've never had anyone check my frame numbers,

>Where on the Frame is the vin located on a 71 ?????? I was unaware they put
>the VIN on the frame. Is this a stoopid question????
>
>STU
>Nuke GM!

On my '71 it's on the pass side frame rail, just ahead of the firewall.
Under all the dirt and grease.
I didn't know where to find it, but when I got it registered the DMV lady
wanted to see it and after She couldn't find it She called out someone
else and He knew right where to look and came out with a small wire brush...

Happy motoring,

Steve

"Remember, with lunacy comes responsibility;
we have a duty to make life at least a little more
surreal for those whose lives make too much sense."
-- Trygve Lode

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:40:03 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Ticking sound

>Ted writes: >> Sounds like it's coming from under the valve cover. It
>>started with one. Now I have several.

>Sounds just like low oil pressure idle. Get a mechanical gage and
>the necessary hardware and and check it out. Take the idiot light
>sending unit out (located on rear of engine behind intake manifold near
>the center) and plumb in the mechanical gage. If you have low oil
>pressure, mainbearings and possibly rodbearings are in order, as a new
>oil pump possibly. This can be done without pulling the engine.

Rod bearings and oil pump are a breeze to change on a 2WD truck.
And don't forget about the rocker oiler restriction to help low oil
pressure at idle! I did mine and picked up 5-6psi of hot idle oil pressure
and the rockers still get *way* plenty oil. Next time I've got mine open
I may screw a smaller restrictor set in...
If the oil press turns out to be OK, perhaps the lifters are just crudded
up with junk. I bought a car once that the last owner was a cheap-oil freak.
The motor ran/sounded good when I bought it, but after the first oil change
I did, it started making this horrible lifter noise... I think the good
detergent oil I put in it loosened up some of the sludge/gunk which fouled
the lifters. I dosed the crankcase with about a pint of MMO (Marvel Mystery
Oil) which has some excellent solvent properties, and after another 100 miles
or so it cleared up and was fine. Check the oil pressure, and if it's good
then try some MMO in the crankcase to see if that frees up the lifters.
Man, the lifters are a pain to replace on an FE...

>Sorry about the 360 rather than the 390, but I suspect most 390's in
>trucks will turn out to be 360's, unless you know it for sure.
>
>Azie

Yeah Azie's right, *lots* of truck FE's are 360's.
I feel soooo lucky... I bought my FE thru an ad in the paper:
"For sale, 73 Ford FE360, $75 (phone number)"
I went out and bought it, they guy *said* it was a 360, and I was a
little bummed it wasn't a 390 but bought it cuz the price was right.
When I got it home and opened it, it turned out to be a 390 !!
(Insert picture of very greasy long-haired man doing an excited little
victory dance around a very greasy lump of iron on an engine stand)
It's amazing how excited one can get over a little thing like a 0.14"
difference in dimension on a 35lb chunk of iron... (like a crankshaft!)

Happy motoring,

Steve

"Remember, with lunacy comes responsibility;
we have a duty to make life at least a little more
surreal for those whose lives make too much sense."
-- Trygve Lode

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:40:10 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re:Brake lock

>Gary:
>
>I looked at my unit last evening. Nothing at all on it. No insignia -
>no name - nothing. The knob in the cab has a very faint " M CO"
>read this as M blank CO . there was a letter where the blank is, but I
>can't make it out. This knob is not necessarily the one that came with
>the brake locking unit either.
>
>Sorry
>
>Azie

I can fill in the blank!
This is a "MICO" lock. They are real common on industrial stuff,
forklifts, etc. They are good as a temporary parking brake, but
they *do* leak down in a period of time which can vary from a few
hours to a several weeks depending on the condition of things...
I've fixed lots of 'em.

Steve

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:40:07 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: flywheels

>Jeff writes:>>Well, I counted flywheel teeth, does 183 sound familiar?
>You had guessed 138...
>Actually, this 428 wheel (most likely from a Mustang) had 184 teeth.

>Just goes to show how bad my memory really is. Sorry about that!!!
>I have one lying in my garage and if my memory will work properly,
>I'll weigh it and get back to you in a couple of days. 40# seems
>heavy to me.
>(gonna count those teeth again also)
>
>Azie

I never weighed one, but I'm pretty sure that the flywheel on my '73 390
wasn't nearly 40 lbs. 30 lbs I might believe, but not 40. That's awful
heavy...

Steve

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:55:04 -0800
From: Richard Cherico
Subject: disk brake conversion again

I have one more question concerning the disk brake conversion. Ken says
that you should keep the kingpins from the donor truck, but then states
that if you want your truck handling "like new" that you should get a
kingpin set for a '67-'72, which would obviously not be the donor truck.
Which should I go with? And is it likely that I will need an oversize set?
My local Parts America wants $46.99 for a kingpin set for a '68, plus
$53.99 for a set of brass bushings. Or was it $54 for the oversize set? I
forget. Anyway, the point remains: which year kingpin to use. Any help
is appreciated.
bigric mail.utexas.edu, bigric tamu.edu
'68 F100 Custom Cab Stepside 360 4bbl

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:58:29 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Electro/Hydaulic Brake Locks

In an interest in finding out more about brake locks I came across
this hydraulics site. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.micoinc.com/index.html The stuff is for
heavy equipment but I think some of it can adapt to our trucks. There is
enough hardware to be worth a look and brake stuff that makes a person
think "I wonder if I could... It's not stuff made for our trucks and if
I'm right or wrong about it's adaptability please post you thoughts.


Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:33:06 -0800
From: Thomas Shay
Subject: Re: electronic ignition

> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:46:18 -0500
> From: George Herpich
> Subject: Re: electronic ignition
>
> Kevin Leone wrote:
> >
> > Hellow there guys. I've been sitten back and finally found someting to
> > respond to. I own a 63 f-100 stakebed with a 292 that I have warmed
> > over.(ported heads, bigger valves, Isky cam, t-bird intake, 4-v autolite
> > carb, and home-made headers) Anyway, I've been looking for a way to
> > upgrade to electronic ignition, but haven't had any luck thus far. If
> > you fellas figure out where I could get some sort of "kit" It would be
> > of much help.

It might be possible to install the the electronic ignition parts
from a 1970's or 80's vintage electronic ignition distributor into a
292 distributor. I know this works on early 1970's V8 distributors. I
don't have a 292 distributor around to look at anymore to see if this
looks possible.

Another possibility that might work is to find a Ford electronic
distributor that could be adapted to fit your 292.

Tom Shay 1978 F-100, 1978 E-250, 1979 Bronco

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:00:06 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Gas Filler

From: Tom
>The way I ended up solving the problem was to swap the bed
>with a 77 or later that has doors instead of gas caps on the side of
the
>bed. With the door the filler opening points up and one of the 90
>degree bends is eliminated. Haven't had a problem since. You can
>either swap beds or have a body shop graft in the section of the bed
>with the filler doors. Be sure and get the filler neck for the later
>truck. I don't know if your planning on putting that kind of effort
>into your truck but keep it in mind.

Yo HomeBoy, You da man! (I've got to quit watching Fresh Prince) One
reason why I don't want to get my truck painted are the dents in the
bed. Nothing big or deep just plentiful. Has the appearance of a sliding
glass shower door, if ya know what I mean. This would solve that problem
too!
Yo Dana! You pay the big bucks for good insurance don't ya? Come
over here and hit my truck! Yo, don't worry about it HomeBoy. I'll pay
your deductible Brotha! Whatchu talkin' bout Fraud. Fraud this Mamaseta!
Why I gotta be friends with Joey Eagle Scout! Man, why you do me like
that! Why you didn't brake with that honesty rap when I ... aaa never
mind.
I'm workin' on it Tom! How'd you get the lady down the street to hit
your truck? Think she'd mind doing in again? ;]

Thanks Tom. I wasn't planning on going that far but only cause I didn't
know this much! :) I'm definitely checking into it now!

Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:11:56 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: In Cab Fuel Tanks

>Check out this site not exactly to the point but interesting info!
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.autosafetyexpert.com/fueltank.htm
>
>Dana

Man! Tom just told me how to fix my gas tank and you show me a site
telling me it's the worst place to put one.
Anyone else recognize the Pinto? :) A friend of mine had a bumper
sticker on his that said "I may be small, but I explode!


Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:02:09 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Insurance Fraud (was Gas Filler)

Deacon wrote:
>

> Yo Dana! You pay the big bucks for good insurance don't ya? Come
> over here and hit my truck! Yo, don't worry about it HomeBoy. I'll pay
> your deductible Brotha! Whatchu talkin' bout Fraud. Fraud this Mamaseta!
> Why I gotta be friends with Joey Eagle Scout! Man, why you do me like
> that! Why you didn't brake with that honesty rap when I ... aaa never
> mind.



lets see, I need a new right front fender and a hood. If we hit each other so it....


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