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fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, January 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 001



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In this issue:

Tires... ["Bill Beyer" ]
How to check 4wd [wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)]
Tire Info [Kurt Albershardt ]
Tire Info [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: Three on the tree [Tyler Abbott ]
Re: Tire Info [wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)]
Re: Three on the tree [Jean and Phillip Johnson ]
Re: How to check 4wd ["Bill Beyer" ]
Ford Suburbans??, 9 Inch Disc Brakes. ["J. A. Knapper"
RE:Gauges [bill ]
Re: carb advice, blue ovals [HYDROSMITH ]
Re: How to check 4wd ["Jason K. Schechner" ]

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 06:23:13 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Tires...

Has anyone had any experience with Cavalier Mud King tires? They're
made by BFG (Uniroyal), the tread resembles an older version of the BFG M/T
and they cost about $35 less per tire than M/Ts, at least in the 33X12.50
16.5 size. I'm thinking about getting a set for my truck.

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 18:52:24 GMT
From: wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)
Subject: How to check 4wd

My quest for a 77-79 4X4 has become rather disheartening; lotsa =
over-priced
junk out there. I did find a 76 F250 4x4 with 360, 4 speed, 77,000 =
original
miles on it. How does one go about checking the 4wd for proper function; =
it
has a shift lever with about 4 choices on it; it also seems to have
locking hubs.
Also, it's got some old tires on it; 7.5-16; how do these translate to =
the
newer size systems? Is there a web page with a conversion table on it?

Thanks for all your help; it's a great list

Rob
Sheridan, WY
'71 F100 Custom

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 12:26:30 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Tire Info

At 06:52 PM 1/1/98 GMT, Rob Patelke wrote:
>Also, it's got some old tires on it; 7.5-16; how do these translate to the
>newer size systems? Is there a web page with a conversion table on it?


Here's my favorite:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dunloptire.com/tt101_sizing.html




Exact tire sizes are somewhat unique to each manufacturer, but fortunatley,
most of them have websites with the (actual) sizes listed. Try these:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dickcepek.com/dc_tires.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dunloptire.com/tires/ltruck.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.michelin.com/us/eng/tire/catalog/truck.htm

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.natltire.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4wheelparts.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tirerack.com/


Can't remember where the BFG site is (bfgoodrich.com is the aerospace
company that _used_ to own the tire biz and goodrich.com is being held
hostage by Eugene Goodrich, probably until BFG puts up enough $$)

Never seen the Interco site if there is one.

Anybody know?

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 12:32:34 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Tire Info

At 06:52 PM 1/1/98 GMT, Rob Patelke wrote:
>My quest for a 77-79 4X4 has become rather disheartening; lotsa over-priced
>junk out there. I did find a 76 F250 4x4 with 360, 4 speed, 77,000 original
>miles on it. How does one go about checking the 4wd for proper function; it
>has a shift lever with about 4 choices on it; it also seems to have
>locking hubs.

You could have an NP-203 (full-time) or NP-205 (part-time) T-case. Both
are nearly indestructible, but look for signs of oil leakage at the T-case,
U-joints, and differential housings. Check for freeplay in the driveshafts
(there may be two, three, or four of them depending on the design) Then
try driving it in all modes and listen for clunking or grinding noises.
Check for more noises when turning at low speeds. Get someone to help &
have one of you look underneath to make sure both driveshafts are turning
when in 4-wheel modes, and if you have time, jack up the front end to make
sure that the front wheels turn when the front shaft does.

I'm sure some of the other list members have favorite tricks for testing as
well.

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 13:01:06 -0800
From: Tyler Abbott
Subject: Re: Three on the tree

What engines were offered with the three speed manual? How much power can
one stand up to? And again does anyone have the ratios for the three speed?
Thanks
- -Tyler-

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 23:08:47 GMT
From: wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)
Subject: Re: Tire Info

On Thu, 01 Jan 1998 12:26:30 -0800, you wrote:

snip
>
>Here's my favorite:
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dunloptire.com/tt101_sizing.html
>
>
>
>
>Exact tire sizes are somewhat unique to each manufacturer, but =
fortunatley,
>most of them have websites with the (actual) sizes listed. Try these:
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dickcepek.com/dc_tires.html
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dunloptire.com/tires/ltruck.html
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.michelin.com/us/eng/tire/catalog/truck.htm
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.natltire.com/
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4wheelparts.com/
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tirerack.com/
>
>
>Can't remember where the BFG site is (bfgoodrich.com is the aerospace
>company that _used_ to own the tire biz and goodrich.com is being held
>hostage by Eugene Goodrich, probably until BFG puts up enough $$),
Thanks Kurt,
I killed over an hour looking to no avail for Uniroyal/BFG this morning;
the Tirerack site is really nice--just what I was looking for along with
the sizing info at Dunlop.

Rob

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 17:49:39 -0600
From: Jean and Phillip Johnson
Subject: Re: Three on the tree

Tyler Abbott wrote:
>
> What engines were offered with the three speed manual? How much power can
> one stand up to? And again does anyone have the ratios for the three speed?
> Thanks
> -Tyler-
>
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I'm not sure about all the engines that were offered with a three speed,
but I'm sure that the 300 six came with it because I have one in a 1976
F100. The 300 six has a fair amount of low end torque and my orginal
transmission with god only knows how many miles on it handles it just
fine. I think a better question might be what kind of performance can
you expect from the three speed when mated with higher performance
engines. Personally I'd opt for a good automatic if I had the choice.
Additionally, I'd suspect that you'd kill the clutch before you killed
the transmission.

P. Johnson
1976 F100

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:30:10 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: How to check 4wd

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> From: Rob Patelke
> My quest for a 77-79 4X4 has become rather disheartening; lotsa
over-priced
> junk out there. I did find a 76 F250 4x4 with 360, 4 speed, 77,000
original
> miles on it. How does one go about checking the 4wd for proper function;
it
> has a shift lever with about 4 choices on it; it also seems to have
> locking hubs.

It sounds like a part time system. The easiest way to check it is to find a
dirt hill, lock the hubs and put it in 4 Hi by pulling straight back on the
transfer case lever assuming of course that it currently is in 2 Hi. Try to
drive up the hill, if the back wheels spin and it doesn't seem to pull from
the front end then there could be a problem with the 4wd system. Possibly a
bad hub or broken driveshaft or u-joint.

If it seems to pull from the front end OK then drive it around on the dirt
and listen for noises in the front end or transfer case that you don't hear
in 2 Hi. Then put the trans in Park or Neutral and shift up through Neutral
to 4 Lo on the transfer case. It may take a little persuasion and shifting
into Drive or Reverse to get it there but that's normal. Try climbing the
hill again in 4 Lo and driving around and listening for noises.

> Also, it's got some old tires on it; 7.5-16; how do these translate to
the
> newer size systems? Is there a web page with a conversion table on it?

7.5 is the width of the tire and 16 is the wheel diameter. You should be
able to find a pretty good selection of 16 in. tires out there.


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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 21:30:31 -0500
From: "J. A. Knapper"
Subject: Ford Suburbans??, 9 Inch Disc Brakes.

The Ford version of the Suburban is still a few model years away, it
will be based on the new F250 heavy duty truck that is to be introduced
sometime this month. I've got some info on the vehicles if anyone's
interested, I'm Ford of Canada's light truck technical specialist.
Thunderbirds around 1974, 75 had a rear disc setup in them, I'm not sure
if it was optional or not.

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:47:42 -0500 (EST)
From: bill
Subject: RE:Gauges

Jesus,
I suggest a couple of things to look for in gauges. First, get mechanical
gauges (as opposed to electrical). The mechanical gauges have a fuller
needle sweep (e.g., from 7 o'clock to about 4 o'clock) as compared with
electrical gauges (which usually have a needle sweep from about 10 o'clock
to about 2 o'clock). Either way, if you have idiot lights in your truck
now, you will have to replace the sending units anyway.
Second, I suggest getting gauges with glass faces (except for the tach).
I have an Autometer tachometer which I love, but the plastic face gets little
scratches in is over time. On the other hand, my oil pressure gauge has
a glass face which wipes clean and scratch free every time. I don't know if
you can find a tach w/ a glass face, but for your other gauges, go glass.
Finally, my vote is for Sunpro. Their the least expensive thing out there, and
I like 'em as well. Grab a copy of the Summit Racing catalog to see what
is out there, but Sunpro has worked well.

Bill

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:07:42 EST
From: HYDROSMITH
Subject: Re: carb advice, blue ovals

In a message dated 97-12-30 23:48:16 EST, you write:


explain to me what the difference is among the Holley, Edelbrock and Carter
designs (the builder recommended the Edelbrock, said "you bolt it on and
forget about it") and the plusses and minuses of each. Also, please explain
to me what cfm rating I shud use. >>


I would go with the Edelbrock. All the gaskets are above fuel level and no
troublesome power valves! I've had a couple of those blow. Jet
changes are a breeze. For your engine I would go with a 750 cfm vacuumn
secondaries if your engine produces enough vacuumn. Also they are built by
Weber.

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:20:01 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jason K. Schechner"
Subject: Re: How to check 4wd

What you can do is lock the front hubs then pull the lever inside
all the way back towards the front seat. The normal shift pattern is
(from forward to backward) 4L - N - 2H - 4H so that'll put you in 4H.
Then try to turn on dry pavement. Note: don't drive too far like this,
but for a short test you should be ok. If the 4wd is working you'll feel
the truck bucking as the tires slip on the road. After that you may find
it tough to get the truck out of 4H, but you can fix this by backing up
slowly and trying to shift while you're moving. If your hubs are locked
you can shift to and from 2H to 4H on the fly.

- -Jason
79 Bronco (460 coming soon, C6, 33" BFG AT's) GRN GYNT - offroad monster
79 Bronco (400M, C6, 31" Wranglers) blue - BGHOSS (coming soon)
95 Mustang GT - LTLHOS - Eibachs, 3.55's, K&N, 13deg timing....

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