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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, February 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 095 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks61-79-digest-request  listservice.net with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Typo [am14 chrysler.com] Air riser [BDIJXS aol.com] Bored Out [am14 chrysler.com] Re: Plastic model trucks... [Stu Varner ] Engine color [shoman p3.net] Big Block conversions [Dan Koster ] Re: Engine color [Stu Varner ] Fast Idle [am14 chrysler.com] Rear ratio [am14 chrysler.com] Re: Plastic model trucks... [danadeb pacbell.net] PTO [am14 chrysler.com] Re: Plastic model trucks... ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Re: Subscription numbers back up [danadeb pacbell.net] Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #93 [JRFiero aol.com] '65 F100 transmission replacement [steve.peters mts.com] Re: Big Block conversions ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms [Stu Varner perogie ford [Sleddog ] Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms [Kurt Albershardt ] '79 Merc [am14 chrysler.com] Re: perogie ford [FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)] Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms [Stu Varner Re: perogie ford [John MacNamara ] Re: Big Block conversions [SuperMagot aol.com] RE: perogie ford [Sleddog ] Re: perogie ford [Raym351 aol.com] ??? [am14 chrysler.com] Tri-Y Headers [Keith Srb ] Re: ??? [Stu Varner ] 460 timing and other stuff ["John F. Bauer III" ] Re: Tri-Y Headers [Kurt Albershardt ] Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms [Kurt Albershardt ] Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms [Stu Varner 428CJ Heads [tfmf211 murphyfarms.com] Header torque specs? [tfmf211 murphyfarms.com] Re: 460 timing and other stuff [] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:48:34 -0500 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: Typo 428 bore is 4.030'. THIS IS A TYPO. THE 428 BORE IS 4.130''. Not 4.030'. Sorry about that. Azie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:03:04 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: Air riser Hey Tom in SF, I finally got that air riser off the 360 heads...do you still want it? Please send me your address again and I'll send it your way.... Colorado Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:04:33 -0500 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: Bored Out Carey writes:>> Will it be too bored out? It has a WHOLE LOT of miles on it. Usually the piston will have the amount of oversized stamped into the piston on top in the center. IE .030 = thirty thousandths overbore. This is how to tell without removing the piston. Azie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:08:28 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: Plastic model trucks... At 10:34 PM 2/15/98 -0600, you wrote: >Have you guys seen a '65/'66 plastic model kit of a F-100 that I could >build? I wouldn't mind getting one to play with paint schemes on before >I take my real one in for painting. > >Also, since color of engines blocks has been coming up lately...what >color was the 302 block in the '65 F-100? > 302 wasn't an option on any vehicles in 65 ......was it?? 289'a were built then. I would guess gold was the popular engine color the year before I was born. WHILE we're at it......what color is the 71 360/390 engine? I have asked this 3 or 4 times in the last year and no one has responded. Just trying to be historically correct in the resto. You can't really tell on my engine because it has so much grease on it. I ahve scraped to see if I can tell with no luck. So, IS IT Corporate blue, which is called Ford dark blue, or Ford blue which is a lighter color? which is it? STU NUKE GM! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:13:13 -0500 From: shoman p3.net Subject: Engine color >From what my mind remembers...After 1966 all ford v-8's were dark blue.. My friend had an original 67 cougar the 289 was dark blue my 69 mustang motor is dark blue...the 302 in my f-100 dark the 390 in the 70 f250 dark..hope this helps Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Koster Subject: Big Block conversions Hey everyone! I'm interested in hearing from anybody that has stuffed a big block FE V-8, or a 429/460 into a F100 truck. Show me the money! Dan _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:15:06 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: Engine color At 10:13 AM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >From what my mind remembers...After 1966 all ford v-8's were dark blue.. >My friend had an original 67 cougar the 289 was dark blue my 69 mustang >motor is dark blue...the 302 in my f-100 dark the 390 in the 70 f250 >dark..hope this helps >Joe Thanks Joe, That was kinda my impression but just wanted to make sure the paint hadn't faded or darkened over the years. I am curious about the 302 in your truck......you sure it is original to the truck? My Ford truck ID book tells me 302 was never an option on trucks in 69... but then Ford did what they wanted to. 70 models had a G code for 302's. This is perplexing to my brain! STU Nuke GM! BTW Joe - Love the site! You have spent a lot of time working on it. I especially like the fact it is devoted to the best looking (FLAME SUIT ON AND READY) truck series Ford has ever produced. Sure glad no 53-56 guys are on the list!! He He He ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:31:31 -0500 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: Fast Idle Gary writes;>> If you have to idle it at 1500 in park or neutral (there should be no difference since they are both neutral) to keep it running in gear then the engine is not tuned right, it's that simple and my first guess is a vacuum leak. It could be a bad carb which includes bad gaskets which cause vacuum leaks or simply not adjusted properly or it could be wires, plugs, valves. rings etc, etc, etc.. I agree totally. Something wrong if stock engine will not Idle near the 500/600 rpm figure. Now a tall - long overlap cam is a whole nuther story Azie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:47:19 -0500 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: Rear ratio Brian writes:>>1) I counted the teeth on the ring gear and it had 39, the pinion had 13. Does this make it a 300 ratio ??>> Yep! Azie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:02:51 -0800 From: danadeb pacbell.net Subject: Re: Plastic model trucks... Dennis K. Austin wrote: > > Have you guys seen a '65/'66 plastic model kit of a F-100 that I could > build? I wouldn't mind getting one to play with paint schemes on before > I take my real one in for painting. > Why not try the technology of the 90s. Take a few photos and have them scanned, then use a paint program to try different color schemes! Many people on the list have scanners myself included and I know I would not mind doing it for you. If your interested then E-Mail me privately. Alternately you could find photos on web sites of trucks that look like yours, save the GIF, JPG, BMP etc. and go from there. If you don't have a paint program do a search for "Paint Shop Pro" it is a paint program that is "Shareware". There are others it is just the one I have used. Good luck Dana ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:01:35 -0500 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: PTO Kerdt WRITES;>> I think If you put it on the Tranny the only way to operate is when trans is in Nuetral, because if you put it in gear its harder to control the flow of the vehicle The PTO doesn't care if the tranny is in gear or not. I've used one for years on a flatbed dump, and when trying to spread gravel, I've lifted the bed partially while sitting still, then put the truck in gear to start the vehicle moving and be lifting and spreading while moving. Not very difficult, but does require a little experience. Azie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:27:07 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: Plastic model trucks... > From: danadeb pacbell.net > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:02:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: Plastic model trucks... > Why not try the technology of the 90s. Take a few photos and have > them scanned, then use a paint program to try different color > schemes! Too bad you can' t scan the truck itself...........:-) And then save it over itself when you get it the way you want.........:-) 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's - -- Gary -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:33:40 -0800 From: danadeb pacbell.net Subject: Re: Subscription numbers back up Deacon wrote: > > From: Ken Payne > >About a month ago I stated that membership on this list > >was declining. Well, I just checked the numbers and it > >looks like the group is growing rapidly again. We now > >have 495 members on this list. > > Maybe the people from the 80 and up list all have their bug shields > and bed liners in their trucks and have nothing left to talk about, so > their coming back here for the real tech talk! :~) I don't know if you noticed but I did. There have been more then a few over 79 questions in here! They just know where to come for real info! Dana ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:30:47 EST From: JRFiero aol.com Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #93 Don - The Novell message was most likely an automated 'out-of-office assistant' (Microsoft Outlook term) which responds to any incoming mail. You'll probably see more of them as time goes on. In a message dated 98-02-15 12:31:00 EST, you write: > > Novell and Sales Operations will be closed on Monday Feb 16 for Presidents Day. > > Chris Findlay. Thank you Chris. I would never have guessed that by my self. I did read it the first time. Will you be open on Tuesday? -- Don Grossman duckdon pacific.net >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:15:47 -0500 From: steve.peters mts.com Subject: '65 F100 transmission replacement When I bought my truck, it had a not readily identifiable non-original automatic transmission. Tracing out the bolt pattern, I went to an auto store and searched through their parts book and determined that it is a "Fordmatic MX" (not FMX), which was in production from '55 to '67, but not offered on the F100 in '65. My truck originally had the "HD Cruise-O-Matic". The tranny is leaking fluid in various places, and since I now know that it is very old and hard to get parts for, I've decided it best to replace it. My first thought was to go with a C6, since I know they are very popular. My truck has a 352 engine. Is the the C6 a good choice? Are there better choices? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:13:10 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: Big Block conversions > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:32:59 -0800 (PST) > From: Dan Koster > Subject: Big Block conversions > Hey everyone! > > I'm interested in hearing from anybody that has stuffed a big block > FE V-8, or a 429/460 into a F100 truck. If you have an older truck, older than 76 and it has a V-8 in it chances are it's an FE. You can bolt virtually any FE engine in place of any other but they do not interchange easily with other series due to transmission flange and engine mounts etc.. If you have a 351M or 400 then a 460 is almost a bolt in operation with L&L engine mounts. 4x4's require 4x4 engine accessories like pan, dipstick. passenger side truck manifold etc.. If you have any other engine and want one of these then you will have a major job including new tranny to fit both engine and transfer case (4x4 applications), possibly drive shaft, engine mounts, tranny cross member has to be moved, new radiator, all accessory brackets need to match the new engine and accessories and sometimes oil filter needs to be remote mounted. Otherwise it's a piece of cake :-) I made my own mounts for my 78 but If I'd known about L&L I would have bought them in a new york minute :-) Might buy some anyway and put the old stanchions back in for a neater installation, someday :-) 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's - -- Gary -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:17:22 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms A >> Those of you who have lift kits on your 1/2-ton 4x4s, did you do >> anything special with the tracking arm? I have about a 4" lift, and > >You should use a drop pitman arm and drop bracket with the same drop >as the lift or some approximation at least to keep the geometry more >nearly stock. The key is to keep the drag link and track bar as >nearly parallel as possible and as nearly on the axle axis as >possible for best handling and least "Bump steer". OK - It's time to help the suspension illiterate out.........What is the part number for the drop pitman arm? Does it come with the lift kit? I am going to install a 4 inch front/3 inch rear lift kit while the cab and bed are off the truck and I am doing the frame. Remember, mine is a 71 model F-100 and may not be the same part number. I haven't checked with the 4x4 Custom truck Center about this yet. Maybe they will have one stocked or can get one for me. I may need to talk with you OFF list about this. That be OK? I may need someone to walk me through this and hold my hand. Be gentle.....please. >> coil springs require the double shock setup, I have a single shcok setup and coils..........???? >Sway bars really make a handling difference on the highway. Sway bars......4x4 sway bars.....HHHMMMM! I don't get out much and this is my first 4x4 to redo. This is an interesting idea. >As I set up my steering dampers and axle truss I am making sure to >allow for the sway bar, mine's staying on :-) With a lift it can >become a nuisance tho so you'll have to weigh your needs. There is a steering dampener on it that looks stock. Where these factory installed or did the previous owner put it on? I dunno. I am going to put on 30.5 or 31.5 x 9.5 tires. Am I going to be ok "shimmy" wise with this stock set up or do I need to make other mods to prevent broken thumbs?? Thanks STU Nuke GM! I was sad mark martin ripped his rearend up yesterday ;>( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:34:26 -0500 From: Sleddog Subject: perogie ford hello, does anyone have a phone number for perogie? its a ford place in new york state i think. used to have the number but lost it in the shuffle. sleddog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:34:48 -0800 From: Kurt Albershardt Subject: Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms At 12:17 PM 2/16/98 -0600, Stu Varner wrote: >There is a steering dampener on it that looks stock. That's the thing that keeps your steering from drying out, right? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:44:14 -0500 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: '79 Merc Dennis writes:>>I have just been offered a 79 Marquis with a 429 and (I assume) a C6 tranny. The C6 is probably correct. 429 is probably wrong. It should be a 460 if it is of the 385 family. I think the 429 died along with high compression at the end of 1972. Azie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:46:30 -0500 From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D) Subject: Re: perogie ford Sleddog Not sure if this is the one you are looking for this is the only one i could fine. PEROGIE ENTERPRISES 200 CONOVER RD HIGHTTOWN NJ. (609) 448-1684 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:47:49 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms At 10:34 AM 2/16/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 12:17 PM 2/16/98 -0600, Stu Varner wrote: >>There is a steering dampener on it that looks stock. > >That's the thing that keeps your steering from drying out, right? I thought it was device that looks like/is a shock absorber......maybe I don't know what one is......then again maybe I do. This is the blind leading the blind here i think. STU Nuke GM! My truck is in 1,000 pieces!!! > > > > > >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, | >| List removal information is on the web site. | >+---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:48:44 -0800 From: John MacNamara Subject: Re: perogie ford Sleddog wrote: > hello, > > does anyone have a phone number for perogie? its a ford place in new york > state i think. used to have the number but lost it in the shuffle. New Jersey: 609 448 1684 John > > > sleddog > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, | > | List removal information is on the web site. | > +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:56:59 EST From: SuperMagot aol.com Subject: Re: Big Block conversions In a message dated 98-02-16 10:36:51 EST, you write: I'm interested in hearing from anybody that has stuffed a big block FE V-8, or a 429/460 into a F100 truck. Show me the money! >> Yes I have, and so have a few others. There are quite a few posts on the subject. hey Ken, perhaps we should put together some info like the brake info package.... I would be willing to submit info to that, instead of reposting over and over again...:) - - Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:02:21 -0500 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: perogie ford thank you.!!! - ---------- From: John MacNamara[SMTP:JohnMcn micom.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 1998 1:48 PM To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net Subject: Re: perogie ford Sleddog wrote: > hello, > > does anyone have a phone number for perogie? its a ford place in new york > state i think. used to have the number but lost it in the shuffle. New Jersey: 609 448 1684 John > > > sleddog > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, | > | List removal information is on the web site. | > +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ | Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, | | List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:01:33 EST From: Raym351 aol.com Subject: Re: perogie ford In a message dated 98-02-16 13:32:29 EST, you write: state i think. used to have the number but lost it in the shuffle. >> Perogie Enterprises is in Hightstown, NJ. Phone 609-448-1684, fax: 609-448-5671. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:05:32 -0500 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: ??? Stu Varner: I've been trying to respond to you directly at: Varners ten-nash.ten.K12.tn.us I keep getting rejection from the mailerdormer saying such things as "host unknown". Please post me your correct E-mail address. Thanks Azie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:22:59 -0700 From: Keith Srb Subject: Tri-Y Headers Does anyone know of any other sources for Tri-Y Headers other than Stan Headers ???? Thanks! Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie Mesa, AZ 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed. 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up. 1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side. 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air Cleaner, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box. My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:24:10 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: ??? varners ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us My dad has been having the same problem for about 2 weeks.......he is new to the mail thing though. It could be a problem wuth the server in murfreesboro, TN. > >Azie >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, | >| List removal information is on the web site. | >+---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:37:35 -0500 From: "John F. Bauer III" Subject: 460 timing and other stuff Group: As luck would have it, my van has no sticker any where near/around the hood with the specifications for BTDC for ignition timing and idle rpms for checking ignition timing. If someone knows off the top of their head, I would appreciate it. I have narrowed the engine to a 74, 75 or 76 460 with Duraspark II. On a slightly related note, could someone explain in lay man's terms, how the engine compression ratio affects emmisions? IE, if the factory ratio is 8.0 and the engine was changed to a hypothetical 9.X ratio, would one notice increased/decreased emmision nasties at idle? John bauerjf ix.netcom.com 77' E250 4WD van, 460/C6/NP205, dana 60s 96' F150 2WD, 302. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:46:39 -0800 From: Kurt Albershardt Subject: Re: Tri-Y Headers At 12:22 PM 2/16/98 -0700, Keith Srb wrote: >>>> Does anyone know of any other sources for Tri-Y Headers other than Stan Headers ???? Thanks! Try Doug Thorley Headers. Not much at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thorleyheaders.com/ but email to info thorleyheaders.com or call 909-735-7280 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:05:37 -0800 From: Kurt Albershardt Subject: Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms At 12:47 PM 2/16/98 -0600, Stu Varner wrote: >>>There is a steering dampener on it that looks stock. >> >>That's the thing that keeps your steering from drying out, right? > >I thought it was device that looks like/is a shock absorber......maybe I >don't know what one is......then again maybe I do. This is the blind >leading the blind here i think. Semantics, I'll agree, but better to know than get laughed at later. Dampers are things like shock absorbers that damp spring action. Dampeners are things that make things wet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:07:27 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:17:22 -0600 (CST) > From: Stu Varner > Subject: Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms > OK - It's time to help the suspension illiterate out.........What is > the part number for the drop pitman arm? Does it come with the lift > kit? I am going to install a 4 inch front/3 inch rear lift kit Sometimes, you can ask the sales person when you order the kit. If it doesn't have one you can get one from Rancho and many other sources through just about any auto parts place I would think. > >Sway bars really make a handling difference on the highway. > > Sway bars......4x4 sway bars.....HHHMMMM! I don't get out much and > this is my first 4x4 to redo. This is an interesting idea. Sway bars are actually "Anti-Sway bars" and mount on the axle with bushinged rods going to the frame to contoll body roll. Essentially they keep the axle parallel with the frame, side to side for a leve ride in turns. I notice Ch**y mounts theirs right, on the frame and runs the rods to the axle for less unsprung weight, bummer! > There is a steering dampener on it that looks stock. Where these > factory installed or did the previous owner put it on? I dunno. I Came stock if it bolts to the drag link directly and to the cross member. > am going to put on 30.5 or 31.5 x 9.5 tires. Am I going to be ok > "shimmy" wise with this stock set up or do I need to make other mods > to prevent broken thumbs?? Those are "baby" tires and should cause no problems I'm aware of :-) 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's - -- Gary -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:16:34 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: F-100/F-150 Tracking Arms At 12:05 PM 2/16/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 12:47 PM 2/16/98 -0600, Stu Varner wrote: >>>>There is a steering dampener on it that looks stock. >>> >>>That's the thing that keeps your steering from drying out, right? >> >>I thought it was device that looks like/is a shock absorber......maybe I >>don't know what one is......then again maybe I do. This is the blind >>leading the blind here i think. > >Semantics, I'll agree, but better to know than get laughed at later. > > >Dampers are things like shock absorbers that damp spring action. > >Dampeners are things that make things wet. I am tired and it is Munday.....See I cain't even speell. Don't tell anyone I is a skool teacher. If you are like me you read some posts soooooofast and Like I said, I can't spell for krap. Right Deacon? STU Nuke GM! > > > >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, | >| List removal information is on the web site. | >+---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:50:00 +0000 From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com Subject: 428CJ Heads "PAUL MONTY" wrote: >>One of these days I'll have the long block done, but it's not time yet it still runs too tight. Anyway, that's been my quest for increased performance and driveability. If anyone can set me straight or offer any better suggestions, even sell me a set of those heads, I'll certainly welcome hearing from you. Paul, There's a pair of heads at www.coolrides.com/parts.html that are for sale. Said they wanted $600 for them. Looks like it may be an old posting, but may be worth a shot! -Ted ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:52:07 +0000 From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com Subject: Header torque specs? I'm going to put headers on my '68 F100 with a 390 2v. Is there a torque spec. for the bolt that tightens the header to the head? The installation instructions says to tighten evenly and to retighten after 3 to 5 days of operation. Thanks in advance for the info. -Ted ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:57:55 -0800 From: Subject: Re: 460 timing and other stuff John F. Bauer III wrote: > Group: > > As luck would have it, my van has no sticker any where near/around the hood > with the specifications for BTDC for ignition timing and idle rpms for > checking ignition timing. If someone knows off the top of their head, I > would appreciate it. I have narrowed the engine to a 74, 75 or 76 460 with > Duraspark II. > > On a slightly related note, could someone explain in lay man's terms, how > the engine compression ratio affects emmisions? IE, if the factory ratio > is 8.0 and the engine was changed to a hypothetical 9.X ratio, would one > notice increased/decreased emmision nasties at idle? > > John > bauerjf ix.netcom.com > > 77' E250 4WD van, 460/C6/NP205, dana 60s > 96' F150 2WD, 302. > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net, | > | List removal information is on the web site. | > +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ In laymans terms, here goes (somewhat oversimplified) Higher compression ratios increases combustion temperatures which causes an increase in NOx formation Higher compression ratios tend to increase the amount of time it takes the fuel/air mix to burn which causes two emissions related problems: 1. More spark advance is necessary to ensure complete combustion or we will see an increase in hydrocarbon emissions. 2. 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