fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, February 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 091



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In this issue:

Re: Vehicle lifts ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Vacuum to Tranny??? [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: 4x4 Van for sale [RL ]
Re: Fords and Wives and Good Moods [BDIJXS aol.com]
OLD TRUCKS [FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)]
RE: *1BHP=1.5MHP [Sleddog ]
RE: FE Intake Port Matching [Sleddog ]
RE: Fords and Wives and Good Moods [Sleddog ]
Vacuum to the transmission ["Deacon" ]
Re: 1969 F100 Project [Don Grossman ]
Fuel valve [am14 chrysler.com]
Fords and Good Moods [ECampb5214 aol.com]
Re: 460 Swap/parts & advice wanted [Don Grossman ]
Re: OLD TRUCKS ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: More "M" Heads ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: OLD TRUCKS ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: OLD TRUCKS [Stu Varner ]
Re: Vehicle lifts [Stu Varner ]
RE: Fords and Wives and Good Moods ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Fords and Good Moods ["Deacon" ]
[none] [Dan Koster ]
Is this a '61 FE 390? [Dan Koster ]
Looking for Dennis Pearson [Dan Koster ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #90 [Carey Rekedal ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #90 [Dan Koster ]
1969 302 Engine Code [shoman p3.net]
Re: 1969 302 Engine Code [Dan Koster ]
Re: 1969 302 Engine Code [Mike Schwall ]
Re: Vacuum to the transmission [danadeb pacbell.net]

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:59:38 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Vehicle lifts

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: Vehicle lifts
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:27:58 -0800

> What! Are you made of money? Only $2895! That's twice what I
> paid
> for my truck.

This is for guys that have ancient corvettes, Jaguars, Cobras, etc.
and need room to stack them out of the way and also have a rack to
work on them. Need I say more?

> I was happy that I'm getting a new cherry picker for $177 this
> week.
> I was excited about telling everyone what I was getting. You really
> took the joy out of that! :)

Sorry to rain on your parade Deacon :-( I've waited a long time to
have a few of these things. Most enthusiasts I know had a hot rod
when they were kids. All I had was dreams and my dad's old beaters
to monkey with. I always wanted to be a race engine builder even
when I was a kid but had to wait till I'm almost ready to fall in the
grave to even begin to see daylight in that dream and then only for
my personal hot rod on limited funds etc.. A member on the bronco
list built a fancy 351W he spent roughtly a year researching and did
all the porting and matchin work himself. He's the same age I am and
waited for his day too :-) I built a 460 but on a shoe string so
very few of the options I wanted got into it. This time it will be
EXACTLY what I want and done in my own facilities.

> When are you going to build a Web site so we can see some of
> these

When my son moves out I should have access to my second phone line
and computer so I may get to it then but untill then.............:-(

> new cheap tools. Your killing me talking about them. Why not finish
> me off with some pics!

I'll get something out to Ken so he can put it up somewhere when I
get it done :-) Sometime this summer I hope but my money isn't all
that free either so it may get channeled into the house or new garage
instead. Priorities.................:-(

> So when are you planning on getting your lift? Are you
> installing it
> yourself?

When I get it I will put it up myself in either case I think. Above
ground for sure but below ground may not happen due to EPA issues :-(


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:36:12 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Vacuum to Tranny???

Someone wrote: >> just can't get a vacume from the trany.

You don't GET a vacuum from the tranny. You SUPPLY a vacuum TO the
tranny. The vacuum TO the transmission should COME FROM the INTAKE
port.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:07:54 -0600 (CST)
From: RL
Subject: Re: 4x4 Van for sale

I saw this in the local bargin trader and since there was some talk about
it I'd post it to the list:
1977 Ford E-350, 4x4 Van, 460 engine, not running
(205) 354-5065
No price was lisited. I'm not sure where they are located as I don't have
a phone book but they should be in the Calhoun, Etawoh, and Talladega
County area. One of these places.
Ryan

1971 Torino 500, 1971 F-100, 1977 Hornet Sportabout,
1978 New Yorker e-mail: st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9027
Fairlane Club of America, American Station Wagon Owners
Association

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:50:41 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: Re: Fords and Wives and Good Moods

Hey Guys,

I KNOW we have a woman or two on the list.....just figured you might want to
know...

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:59:52 -0500
From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
Subject: OLD TRUCKS

I know this is the wrong list but your advice and wisdom is worth more
than all the gold in FORT KNOX. I found a truck not sure of the year. I
think its between 1948 to 1952 F1 could anyone tell me what year FORD
put a FLATHEAD V8 in this truck ? I would like to know what year this
truck is ? I am trying to fine the owner of it , but would like to know
a little about it before i talk to him . I have the serial number from
the firewall if this helps its (F1R1MP13101) as best i could see it is
scrached and a little hard to read. The truck is complet except all the
glass is broken out and no running boards . It might even run it has
license plates from 1995 on it .Could anyone tell me a good price to
start making him an offer on this truck ? any help would be greatly
APPRECIATED .

RANDY
70 F100 SWB
351W 2WD

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:25:28 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: *1BHP=1.5MHP

and at the local watering hole there is another one:
1 BHP=5 ABHP, where ABHP=Anhieser Busch Horse Power

it seems every guy with a chevy (and sometimes even a ford or dodge) thinks
his truck is a dual quad 426 altered wheelbase alcohol dragster in a truck
disguise. funny how they only see the tailgate of mine. :)

sleddog

- -----snipped big time!------------

*1BHP=1.5MHP MHP = Magazine Horse Power

Chris
79 Bronco 400M

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:09:52 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FE Intake Port Matching

bigger valves effect top end more than low end, where the ports have a
greater effect in both areas. a torque motor with small valves that is
changed to bigger valves will most likely notice an improvement thru-out
the rev range, but more at the higher speeds. i am not familiar with the
FT, but a quench area is important in the comb. chamber. so, keep that in
mind.

as for edelbroke, and this is my own opinion (though shared by many people
i know), their dual plane intakes are really just like running a stock
intake (except for the aluminum part!) and the single planes, only the
victors and victor jr's are worth the money. i do beleive that much design
and developement went into them, but feel that from what i have seen
(quality issues aside) they make only a small improvement over stock. it
seems that they increase mixture velocities, at the expense of top end. in
your case this fits your needs perfectly, as a torque motor. but, you can
make torque without sacrificing the top end. (i do not mean 7000 rpm, i
mean 5500 rpm as top end for a torque motor)

that is why i suggest port matching at least a little bit, and going with
the bigger valved, smaller chamber heads. make your torque but don't choke
the thing at over 3500 rpms. as i said, a 428 has a fairly long stroke,
and therefore requires "heavier breathing parts" than a shorter stroke
motor of equal size, like the 427, to make the same torque at the same rpm.

sleddog

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From: BDIJXS aol.com[SMTP:BDIJXS aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 10:38 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: FE Intake Port Matching

Hey Sleddog,

Thanks for the cool cardboard idea on matching the ports. I still need to
answer the big question as to what kind of cylinder head I really want for
the
torque. The FT's are built for it....small valves and big combustion
chambers...but I'm afraid of choking out the 428....

Think I need to hang out at the Edelbrock list for awhile and see what
those
guys have to say. I just hesitate cutting into a performance manifold that
I
know quite a bit of research and development was gone into....

I'll let you know what I come up with...

Thanks again guys,

Colorado Jeff








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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:34:00 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Fords and Wives and Good Moods

no disrespect meant to women. it is just the nature of things that in
relationships there is bound to be disagreements. many times it happens to
involve the truck/car/motorcyle/etc. some women like diamonds, i still
can't figure out how that little stone is worth a couple of grand when GE
can make them for pennies apiece. many women, and men, can't understand
how a good port job on cast iron heads can cost $1500-$2000 bucks.

i never meant to be derrogatory toward women. and hopefully no bad
meanings where taken by anyone.

sleddog


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From: BDIJXS aol.com[SMTP:BDIJXS aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 1998 9:50 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: Fords and Wives and Good Moods

Hey Guys,

I KNOW we have a woman or two on the list.....just figured you might want
to
know...

Colorado Jeff







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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:32:51 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Vacuum to the transmission

After posting that I have two vacuum lines going to the C4 in my '73
F100. I received an e-mail from a member that he had never heard of two
vacuum lines on a C4. This morning I went out and checked and I do have
two vacuum lines going to the modulator. One line at the top that goes
to the intake manifold and one at the base that tees into the EGR vacuum
line.
About a year ago I rebuilt the top end of my 302 and forgot to mark
those two lines. When I was putting it back together I couldn't find
anything on a second vacuum line. I knew one went to the intake but had
no idea where the other went. Not only that I didn't know which line
went to the intake.
I can't remember where I found out how to run the lines but I do
remember it took longer to find out where they went than the rest of the
rebuild. I think a Smog Tech found it for me. If I remember correctly in
'73 emission controls were just starting and California had some funky
setups. The modulator acts differently depending on whether the EGR is
open or closed. Is this common or am I remembering something that really
happened. Sorry but those damn voices in my head keep confusing me.
Sometimes it's hard to tell if I'm remembering or their telling me a
story. :)


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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:47:40 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 1969 F100 Project

Ken, You must be a little busy right now ;)

The 4x's use completely different hubs and spindles than the 2x's.

The brake booster you can grab from anytruck from 65-79 and will fit. I
like the earlier boosters because of the smaller shape.

As for the steering box it would be the 76-79 with some cut and paste to
fit.

The disk brakes you could do like some of the early bronco people do or
change out the complete housing( best bet)

I am thinking of making a set of custom tie-rods using Heim joints with
an adjustable track bar when I get to it.

eMail for more information.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:06:19 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Fuel valve

Forrest writes: >>The one thing I am missing is the fuel selector
valve for duel tanks. Its discontinued thru Ford and Obselete ford
parts doesn't have them either! If anyone has a parts truck with one or
one laying in their parts pile let me know please, its proving to be
quite elusive.

Until you can find an 'original', why not get one of the newer electric
operated ones. If you can't find one of these, an aftermarket one
should be available. Try your friendly Motorhome dealer. Thats where
I found mine when I installed an extra tank on one of my older ones
that came with single tank.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:11:37 EST
From: ECampb5214 aol.com
Subject: Fords and Good Moods

Hey all

skipping school now they can bite me, i got better thing to do. On the way
homehome i felt like having some fun in my ford so me and my friend did a burn
out. So what you say i took it up to 3 gear! you could not see through it
the cloud was thick & whiter then any natural cloud!! The 360 ci & reman C6
did good! got pictures of it when i got the tires were still hot!

Couldnt do that in no 22 y/o ch*v*

Ethan

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:15:07 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 460 Swap/parts & advice wanted

Jim Henjum wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
> I am going to be going through my '75 F250 4x4 next summer. Among
> the things I plan on doing are swapping in a 460 from a '73 Grand
> Marquie; and a NP 4-speed, "married" 205 transfer case, driveshafts, and
> front axle all from a late '77 F250 4x4 that's in a junkyard (victim of
> a rollover). Also a body from a '78 F150 Ranger.

snipped

> Also, does anyone know if the tie rods are the same from a '75 F250
> 4x4 to the '77 F250 4x4 HD (8100 GVWR)? I want to swap the 77 front axle
> onto my 75 so I can get the reverse rotation for when I go to a
> "married" t-case. The '75 has power steering and I need the hole in the
> tie rod from the '75 onto the '77 axle for the steering assistor.
> Oh ya, and does anyone know if this would be a Dana 60 or just a
> heavy duty 44 frontend?
> Thank you very much!
>
> Ross Henjum
> Pennock, MN

Grab the steering box while you are at it and do a complete conversion
and you will not have to worry about the tie rods. the 77 box is much
better than the one in your 75. The 8100gvrw is in the 1 ton catagory
but without actually looking at the truck who knows. Most likely it is
the dana 44. You will be able to tell by loking at the outside of the
axle.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:58:24 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: OLD TRUCKS

> From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:59:52 -0500
> Subject: OLD TRUCKS

> I know this is the wrong list but your advice and wisdom is worth
> more than all the gold in FORT KNOX. I found a truck not sure of the
> year. I think its between 1948 to 1952 F1 could anyone tell me what
> year FORD put a FLATHEAD V8 in this truck ? I would like to know

Not sure when they started but the first over head ford V-8 was 54
and some trucks may have still had flat heads in them even then, not
sure.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:38:38 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: More "M" Heads

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> From: Chris Samuel
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: More "M" Heads
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 11:07 PM

> All of this aside I still will not do any work on any "M" head with out
> Mag'en em, whether it is a valve grind or a fully ported big valved,
> adjustable valve train set. Flames being as they are I Mag'em even if I
am
> just changing the head gasket, simply cheap insurance! Flames on the net
are
> nothing compared to those from justifiably PO'd customers!

Hold on now! I wasn't trying to flame anybody, I really appreciate the
info. I'm just trying to get some idea of what kind of $ it's gonna take to
redo the 400 in my truck when the time comes. I mean if I'm gonna drop a
chunk o' change rebuilding this motor only to have the heads crack in 15K
then why not just build a killer 460 and stuff it in?

It sounds like you're suggesting that I find some older 2V heads and build
them if I'm gonna keep this motor. What years should I look for? What are
the casting marks I should look for?


Bill Beyer
79 F250 Ranger 4X4 400M

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:52:41 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: OLD TRUCKS

Ford started making the flathead in 1932. I've seen a restored 1940 Ford
pickup with the original flathead in it. 1953 was the last year of the
flathead.

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> > From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
> > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:59:52 -0500
> > Subject: OLD TRUCKS
>
> > I know this is the wrong list but your advice and wisdom is worth
> > more than all the gold in FORT KNOX. I found a truck not sure of the
> > year. I think its between 1948 to 1952 F1 could anyone tell me what
> > year FORD put a FLATHEAD V8 in this truck ? I would like to know
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:08:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: OLD TRUCKS

At 09:59 AM 2/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I know this is the wrong list but your advice and wisdom is worth more
>than all the gold in FORT KNOX. I found a truck not sure of the year. I
>think its between 1948 to 1952 F1 could anyone tell me what year FORD
>put a FLATHEAD V8 in this truck ? I would like to know what year this
>truck is ? I am trying to fine the owner of it , but would like to know
>a little about it before i talk to him . I have the serial number from
>the firewall if this helps its (F1R1MP13101)

F1 - conventional F1
R - 239 cid 8 cylinder
1 - identifies model year 51
MP - assembly plant Memphis Tennessee (I like this old truck, I am 1
1/2 hours from Memphis)
13101 - consecutive digits in serial #


Where you at?? If your not I may be interested if close!

STU
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:11:15 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: Vehicle lifts

A
> Must I remind you, we have unemployed aerospace workers on this
>list! 2 Big Mac's for 2 bucks is cheap. 3 grand for a jack is not!
> If your not going to use your pit any more, can I have it? I wonder
>what shipping would be for a hole. :)

> What! Are you made of money? Only $2895! That's twice what I paid
>for my truck.
>
> I was happy that I'm getting a new cherry picker for $177 this week.

Deacon, I don't mean to rub it in, I got a used cherry picker 2 1/2 weeks
ago for $125.00

STU
Nuke GM!

>Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:13:18 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Fords and Wives and Good Moods

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Fords and Wives and Good Moods
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:34:00 -0500

> no disrespect meant to women. it is just the nature of things that
> in relationships there is bound to be disagreements. many times it

> i never meant to be derrogatory toward women. and hopefully no bad
> meanings where taken by anyone.

We have a few on the bronco list too and Soloman must have overlooked
a few because any wife who will clean your intake ducting for you
after a mud run has to be Ok. Too bad we can't all have one of those
kind :-(

BTW, I noticed no one touched my post, it even scared me a little
after I sent it............so thank you for not flaming me :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:41:16 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Fords and Good Moods

>i got better thing to do. On the way homehome i felt like having
some fun

Do not skip school again Ethan! :)

Sorry, I'm going to get some decaf right now! I know, I'm not funny.
Look on the bright side. Stay in school and you can get a job to pay for
new tires. Skip any more school and you be asking if they want frifri's
with their order and walking your date to the movies.

:~) I need to get an agent! I think I found my calling!


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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:59:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: [none]

I have an old big block Ford Engine. I believe it is a 390. The guy
I bought it from said that it was a '61 engine that came out of a '63
bus. Is that possible?

Here's the casting numbers, if anyone knows:

C1AE6015G

1K19:3


What might this 390 have come out of?

Thanks,

Dan




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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:05:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Is this a '61 FE 390?

I just bought (I hope) a FE 390 big block. The guy I bought it from
told me it was a '61 390 that came out of a '63 bus. Is that possible?

Here's the casting numbers:

C1AE6015G

1K19:3

What might this engine have come out of if it is a '61 engine?

Thanks,

Dan

dkoster scad.edu




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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:28:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Looking for Dennis Pearson

I need to get ahold of Dennis Pearson

thanks,

Dan



rumpus1 yahoo.com




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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:44:39 -0800
From: Carey Rekedal
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #90

Hey everyone...

I'm a new subscriber here and I have a couple questions for whoever has
any input. I have a '65 F-250 2WD with a 4-speed (T-18, I think). It
has a tired ol' 390 in it, that I plan on replacing this year probably
with another 390. I looked (briefly) into getting a 460 conversion, but
apparently there is a whole lot to change, so I pretty much decided to
stay with what I have. I'd like to build this new engine up. I'm no
mechanic, so I'm looking for input.

I've been told to go to a four barrel carb, get some headers, etc. But
someone said to "build it into a 428". Can anyone explain in lamens
terms what this entails? Is this a real big deal? Supposedly, its the
same block as a 428. I'm looking for what I guess everyone wants from
their Ford... MORE POWER!!!

Any suggestions or input will be much appreciated. Thanks!!

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:05:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #90

Carey,

I'm currently rebuilding a 390 myself. The advice you got was to
build it up to a 428 CJ. Let me explain.

Your engine belongs to the FE (Ford-Edsel) engine family group that
consists of 352, 360, 390, 427, 428. They are all the same block,
just different bore sizes. Basically, the cylinder holes get bigger
with each increase in engine size, that's all. You could build yours
up to a 428 by taking it to a automotive machine shop and having them
bore the cylinder (make it larger) to the specs of a 428. Of course,
it's still originally a 390. So, you run the risk of overheating and
cracking your block because you'll be asking it to do alot more than
it was designed to. (ie. bigger cylinders, more fuel, more explosion,
more heat, etc....) To make matters worse, a 428 CJ rebuild is not
only expensive and time consuming, but it's really only for racing,
and even then, only for cars. The azle ratios on your truck would
never let the engine reach its full potential. Even if you changed
everything possible, a high horsepower 428 CJ rebuild requires 95+
octane fuel to get that horsepower.


My advice is to take your current 390 (unless its cracked, its
probably still good) to a machine shop, have them clean it up, do a
typical rebuild-style bore, get a valve job, buy an aluminum intake
manifold, a new 4 barrel carb. and some new exhaust headers. That all
by itself is more than enough to significantly increase the power and
efficiency of any engine.

you'll spend about $1000, and your engine will last another 150,000
miles.

Good luck,

Dan




- ---Carey Rekedal wrote:
>
> Hey everyone...
>
> I'm a new subscriber here and I have a couple questions for whoever
has
> any input. I have a '65 F-250 2WD with a 4-speed (T-18, I think). It
> has a tired ol' 390 in it, that I plan on replacing this year probably
> with another 390. I looked (briefly) into getting a 460 conversion,
but
> apparently there is a whole lot to change, so I pretty much decided to
> stay with what I have. I'd like to build this new engine up. I'm no
> mechanic, so I'm looking for input.
>
> I've been told to go to a four barrel carb, get some headers, etc.
But
> someone said to "build it into a 428". Can anyone explain in lamens
> terms what this entails? Is this a real big deal? Supposedly, its
the
> same block as a 428. I'm looking for what I guess everyone wants from
> their Ford... MORE POWER!!!
>
> Any suggestions or input will be much appreciated. Thanks!!
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:14:23 -0500
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: 1969 302 Engine Code

I need the engine code for the 69 model year for the 302 engine
I'm in the final part of my web site and need the code for the date
plate decoder
Joe

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:21:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Re: 1969 302 Engine Code

Look at this site:

www.wrljet.com/engines/


they have an ID listing there.


Dan





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> I need the engine code for the 69 model year for the 302 engine
> I'm in the final part of my web site and need the code for the date
> plate decoder
> Joe
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:23:33 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: 1969 302 Engine Code

At 10:14 PM 2/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I need the engine code for the 69 model year for the 302 engine....


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