fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, February 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 072



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In this issue:

Unibody Van Dohicky [Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)]
RE: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes [Sleddog ]
1972 ranger xlt...help [John Strauss ]
Unibody truck [John Strauss ]
Re: 390/428 flywheel questions [BDIJXS aol.com]
Factory Hang on air for sale [Stu Varner ]
Re: 390/428 flywheel questions [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: 1972 ranger XLT.....help! [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
7 Litre [Stu Varner ]
Re: 390/428 flywheel questions ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 390/428 flywheel questions [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Engine Parts [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes ["John F. Bauer III"
Re: Slip yokes [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: '62 Tailgate, unibody? [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: 428 flywheel [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Vs: Y-Block Question ["Tero Saarelainen" ]
greasable throw bearing [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re:428 flywheel deal [BDIJXS aol.com]
Re: greasable throw bearing [james oxley ]
Re:Differnce in Mercury/Ford Vans [RL ]
Re: Slip yokes ["Michael Connor" ]
Dennis Carpenter ["Art Lutz" ]
Re: 9" gear changes [SARHOG aol.com]
4bbl heads for a 351C [RCCRAZZZY aol.com]
Re: 390/428 flywheel questions [George Herpich ]
'71 F100 [George Herpich ]
Re: '71 F100 [RL ]
Re: Fwd: Re: '62 Tailgate, unibody? [Don Grossman ]
Re: greasable throw bearing [Don Grossman ]

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:08:08 -0800
From: Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)
Subject: Unibody Van Dohicky

The were labeled Econoline. They exist, though I don't know
the years they were offered, there is one for sale near me, in
case any of you get a hankering to obtain one. He brings if out
near the road occasionally, gets no interest, he takes it back under
cover.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab
* * * * * * * * * * *
Ok, since I've tapped a well spring of knowledge here, what do they
call the van/pickup dohickys and what years were they made?

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:01:27 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes

You can buy 8 liug, 15" wheels already made for this purpose but the
interferance with the disk on the front may be a problem with cast
wheels. Steel wheels are thinner so take up less space on the inside
where the rotor is and may work but I'm not sure about that. You can
also use less back spacing to get more clearance but there are limits
to that too for tire wear and handling.

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

thanks. wheel offset isn't too bad for me, as for pulling some offset helps traction on certain tracks.

sleddog

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 11:07:39 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: 1972 ranger xlt...help

>Have a couple questions I hope you can help with!
>I need to know where the fuel tank selector spool is on a 72 ranger xlt
>with dual tanks. My gauge reflects the level in both tanks okay but the
>spool definately isn't switching. If anyone knows the part number to this
>unit I would also be much appreciative.

What do you mean by "spool"? I think on those trucks you had a switch to
change the gauge and a lever to actually change tanks. It should be on the
floor just above the driver's side sill plate but I am not sure about that.
Pretty sure it is not a totally electronic setup on those, tho.

>Anyone who has a line on a comprehensive shop manual for this truck please
>point me in the right direction. I bought a chiltons manual for ford trucks
>65-78, and I should have just kept my money, its worthless and very vague.
>I need something with wiring schematics!

You will need an actual Ford manual. Get them at swap meets.

>Last but not least if someone could recommend a good restoration parts
>supplier for restoring my truck, interior, trim, etc. I would be thankful.
>
Carpenter has the best stuff but it's pricey.


_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, _} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 11:13:10 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: Unibody truck

>Unibodies are neat....they sorta remind me of big Rancheros. I'm still
>looking for a 61 Unibody myself!
>
I'd sell you mine but I am in Texas.


_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, _} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:57:45 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: Re: 390/428 flywheel questions

Hey Azie,

Looks like I found a 428 flywheel, and the guy wants $300 (resurfaced and new
ring gear). To balance, its going cost about $115 (total cost about $425).
Now, I was looking into a new 390 flywheel ($200) and having it
counterweighted and balanced ($150), making the new 390 flywheel setup a
little cheaper (roughly $350, plus its a new flywheel!). Is it worth the extra
$75 to be able to say I have a genuine 428 flywheel???? Or is there some other
advantage to the 428 flywheel that I don't know about....

Also, while talking to Ford about the 390 flywheels, he said they were
different between pre- and post about 1973 or 1974. He said he thought the
ring gears were different. Do you happen to know?

Thanks!
Colorado Jeff

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 12:17:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Factory Hang on air for sale

Just a note to anyone with a 67-72 F-100 in need of or wanting to convert
their nonAC equiped truck to a factory looking ac setup. I am dismantling
my 71 F-100 4x4 with air for resto and am not going to replace it with an AC
set up. I have little or no use for AC as I love the windows down.

Anyway. I am offering this only once to the list before I post it to the
website list of items for sale. When I disconnected the unit last night,
the AC still blew cold air and worked properly. Everything goes with this
including the compressor and all interior hangon parts. It should be a
complete ready to bolt on unit.

email privately if you are interested. 200.OO asking price.

STU
Nuke GM!

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:21:22 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 390/428 flywheel questions

>Hey Azie,
>
>Looks like I found a 428 flywheel, and the guy wants $300 (resurfaced and new
>ring gear). To balance, its going cost about $115 (total cost about $425).
>Now, I was looking into a new 390 flywheel ($200) and having it
>counterweighted and balanced ($150), making the new 390 flywheel setup a
>little cheaper (roughly $350, plus its a new flywheel!). Is it worth the extra
>$75 to be able to say I have a genuine 428 flywheel???? Or is there some other
>advantage to the 428 flywheel that I don't know about....
>
>Also, while talking to Ford about the 390 flywheels, he said they were
>different between pre- and post about 1973 or 1974. He said he thought the
>ring gears were different. Do you happen to know?
>
>Thanks!
>Colorado Jeff
>
Jeff:

The 352,360,390, 406, 410, 427 and 428 flywheels are ALL THE SAME with the
exception of 361 and 391FT engine flywheels which are thicker. You may,
however, encounter a flywheel from a 360 or 390 pickup with holes drilled to
accept an 11 1/2" heavy duty 3-finger clutch in addition to an 11" diaphragm
clutch.

I have had both and in my opinion the 11-1/2" 3-finger clutch is scrap as it
chatters like mad, since it doesn't engage/disengage evenly thanx to the
fingers. You would be best off going with an 11" Centerforce II or Dual
Friction clutch. Smooth, light pedal and all the holding power you will
ever need.

If you go for the 428 flywheel you are nuts, or just rich and very bored.
Balancing that flywheel looks like a LOT of money too. There is no need to
buy one new either as long as the one you buy is not cracked.

Are you building a 428 or something? If you are, then you don't balance
your flywheel until you have the short block setup then you balance the
whole assembly (pulley to flywheel with pressure plate installed) at 500
rpm. If you're just swapping a formerly auto. engine into a manual, then
all you need do is have the weights removed from the flexplate and installed
onto the flywheel in the exact same position.

As for the ring gear, they are all the same on FE motors. I got a new one
from my parts house for $22 Canadian.

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:31:17 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 1972 ranger XLT.....help!

>Have a couple questions I hope you can help with!
>I need to know where the fuel tank selector spool is on a 72 ranger xlt
>with dual tanks. My gauge reflects the level in both tanks okay but the
>spool definately isn't switching. If anyone knows the part number to this
>unit I would also be much appreciative.
>Anyone who has a line on a comprehensive shop manual for this truck please
>point me in the right direction. I bought a chiltons manual for ford trucks
>65-78, and I should have just kept my money, its worthless and very vague.
>I need something with wiring schematics!
>Last but not least if someone could recommend a good restoration parts
>supplier for restoring my truck, interior, trim, etc. I would be thankful.
>
Hey, __________ (your name here!).

My name's Marko and I'm putting together a 67 mercury m100 body and a 71
f250 4x4 running gear, with a built merc 410 engine to go with it. The body
is now stripped clean and will be acid dipped. The running gear will be
restored to showroom. I have learned a whole bunch about my trucks in the
past two years.

The spool on an older ford is actually not a spool at all, at least not an
electric one. The switch only switches the gauges. The valve is on the cab
floor between the driver's side of the seat and the door scuff plate. You
have to turn it by hand.

Second, as for manuals they're all equally bad, but these trucks are all
equally simple. Short of buying a new shop manual (>$100) you can go to
your local library and get the ford shop manual and photocopy the wiring
diagram. I make do with any questions with my Haynes 73-79 manual with
wiring diagram. The rest of the book is quite useless, though.

Finally, for resto parts you can't get from the parts house (you'd be
surprised how much you can still buy!) and from the wrecker, go to Dennis
Carpenter Reproductions somewhere in the Carolinas (do a net search and
you'll find). There's also Obsolete Ford Parts in Oklahoma City but for my
money Carpenters is more courteous, and cheaper by about 10-15%. And they
have great catalogs, OFP puts all their truck parts from '49 into one
catalog so you have to sift through a bunch of irrelevant stuff.

any questions on the resto, ask away.

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 12:34:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: 7 Litre

I remember as a kid, my Uncle Johnny had a springtime yellow Galaxie that
had the 7 Litre badges on the front of his car......Can't remember what year
it was and I doubt seriously he could tell me what the CID was.....He is 80
plus years old today!
He had a brother who worked at the trans factory in Cincinnati(Batavia?), OHio.

I know he had enormous troubles with the automatic when new and he drove it
to the plant in Cincinnati and they replaced it with a new one on the spot.
He lived in Proctor WV. It does pay to know people or have family in
important places!!

STU
Nuke GM!

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:34:08 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 390/428 flywheel questions

> From: BDIJXS aol.com
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:57:45 EST
> Subject: Re: 390/428 flywheel questions

> Looks like I found a 428 flywheel, and the guy wants $300
> (resurfaced and new ring gear). To balance, its going cost about
> $115 (total cost about $425). Now, I was looking into a new 390
> flywheel ($200) and having it counterweighted and balanced ($150),

Have you looked at the PAW catalog for prices yet? They have lots of
choices. I checked with NAPA for a 460 and they listed them for
$180 brand new?? FE's may be more since they are out of production?

Where's Murphy when
you really need him??

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:35:24 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 390/428 flywheel questions

Do you happen to know?
>
>Thanks!
>Colorado Jeff
>
>

Jeff: If you buy one book in your project you HAVE to buy a book by Steve
Christ (no mistake) called "How to Rebuild Big-Block Ford Engines". Most
shops should have it, i think it's put out by HP Books.

This book will answer all of your questions about FE's. You will know all
about parts interchanges, heads, pistons, flyweels, FE vs. FT, valvetrains,
short and long rods, zero vs. detroit balance, full skirts and slipper
skirts, everything.
This book will be invaluable to you and you will be able to get the most out
of your rebuild and your machine shop the better informed you are.


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

currently building 410 mercury for 67 mercury body/71 ford 250 4x4 chassis
frame-off restoration

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:37:28 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Engine Parts

>Hey gang. I've read alot of posts lately about people looking for
>strange engine components and thought I'd pass along this place I
>visited for parts for my 460. I was able to pick up a front sump oil pan
>and my exhaust manifolds without a problem.What really impressed me is
>the guy's knowledge and all the stuff he has.
> What was really wild to see was four 427 ford engines in the shop on
>engine stands, from side oilers to center oilers etc. The guy is
>strictly a ford nut !! He owns four shelby mustangs. He has 428 parts of
>many styles...He has over 500 mustangs in his boneyard. If you need a
>ford part, at least for your engines, this guy has it !!
>
> His name is Tim Baxter, Baxter auto, He's located in Andover Mn. Just a
>few miles north of Minneapolis. Phone is 612-753-3299 As for
>pricing....I paid $30.00 for a front sump pan, And $50.00 for a pair of
>exhaust manifolds, I'm not sure how these prices are since its not every
>day I'm looking for this stuff. But he had them, and he does ship all
>over the country.
>
> Brian

Brian, this guy is not fleecing you one bit.

Obsolete Ford wants about 90 bucks for an nos oil pan, and the manifolds are
really cheap. This guy sounds like a find!

marko in vancouver

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 13:31:38 -0500
From: "John F. Bauer III"
Subject: Re: 15 " rims with 3/4 ton front brakes

I know I'm a little late on this, but I've got dana 60 up front with dual
calipers and my 16.5's just make it. If anyone can get 16's to fit I would
be interested to know since the tire selection is much more robust.

BTW, anyone need 4 MUD-28 Gumbo Monster Mudder 44" tires on 16.5x14 8 lug
rims?

John

At 01:27 PM 2/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
>james oxley wrote:
>>
>> Hey all
>>
>> Is there anyway possible to use 15" rims (8 lug) with 3/4 ton front
>> brakes. Is there special backspacing/caliper grinding required or is it
>> totally out of the question??
>>
>> Thanks
>
>The Ford calipers are way to big to fit 15" wheels. I have a 78 front
>end and I just have enough room for the wheel weights on 16.5's.
>
>--
>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>
>
>63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
>steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:41:38 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Slip yokes

>I junked out a '75 F250 4X4 and still have the C6 from it. It has a
>bolted on yoke. My '76 F150 4X4 had a married transfer case, so only
>the xfercase had a yoke. I have a '77 F250 4X4 that I'm doing a
>complete frame-off rebuild on, and it has a bolted on yoke and a
>divorced xfercase with a short driveshaft between the tranny and xfer
>case. The drive shaft itself has a splined slip joint in it. In fact
>all three drivesfafts in this truck have splined slip joints in them
>and the ends are all bolted directly to the yokes through the u-joints.
>
>Azie

Azie, that's weird!!

My 71 f250 4x4 has the divorced xfer case (205) with short propeller shaft.
I thought they stopped making those in 76! Weird your 77 would be that way.
Or was it 77-1/2 they changed?

Let's compare notes on the 4x4 rebuilds as the running gear's probably
identical. I have an NP435, NP205, 44f, 60r, with hd leaves all round and
overloads in the back, manual steering, and (until I buy a booster) manual
drums all round.

PS the 410 is nearly done! Thanks again for the encouragement!

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:45:03 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: '62 Tailgate, unibody?

>
>> >No! From 61-63 Ford made pickups with the cab and bed as an
>> >integral
>> unit. They still had full frames. 2wd and 4wd Flaresides came with
>> separate boxes but the there a 2wd and 4wd and style side 4x4s still
>> had separate boxes though
>
>Ok, since I've tapped a well spring of knowledge here, what do they
>call the van/pickup dohickys and what years were they made?
>
>Where's Murphy when
>you really need him??
>
>-- Gary --

It's called an Econoline Pickup. By the way, they came in Mercurys too
(these look amazing!!) (The coolest thing I ever saw was STOCK 65 Mercury
Econoline van with factory 4-wheel drive!.)

Dennis Carpenter (NO I AM NOT AFFILIATED!) has a catalog strictly for these,
and I happen to have one. I will check on the weekend to see if they sell
tailgate skins.

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:49:30 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 428 flywheel

>Jeff writes>>

By the way Jeff it was me who said you were paying way too much, not Azie.

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 20:54:27 +0200
From: "Tero Saarelainen"
Subject: Vs: Y-Block Question

If You mean B5A 6588-A TUBE - VALVE ROCKER ARM SHAFT OIL OUTLET, it is on
both heads. On the left head near cylinder 8 and on the right head near
cylinder 1. On the left head it is delivering oil to the lifter valley and
on the right head it is delivering oil to timing chain. Those tubes are
identical. Sometimes those tubes are blocked to increase oil supply to
rockers. Not necessarily a good idea. There are other good things to
increase oil supply to rockers.

Hope this helps.

Tero Saarelainen
Finland
teros dlc.fi
'61 & '62 F-100 Unibody
'52 Mercury
'36 Ford Pickup

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> From: Jesus Cardoso
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: Y-Block Question
> Date: 2.February 1998 0:31
>
> HoWdY!
>
> Let me being by saying thank you to everyone that has help
> me in locating the tube that I need. I still have not found it but thank
> you!
> I have a question for all the Y-Block wise ones.
> Again I am looking for the tube that connects from the rocker arm
> assembly to the lifter valley. (I have a 63 F100 with a 292)
> After talking to the owner of the machine shop that rebuilt my
> engine he told me that the 292 only has one tube delivering oil to the
> lifter valley. Other sources have told me that they have a tube on each
> of the heads. Is the guy at the machine shop just covering is butt or is
> he right?
>
> Thanks for your assistance.
>
> Dazed and Confused,
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy
> Graduate Research Assistant (Power System Automation Lab)
> Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
> College Station, TX 77843-3128
> w: 409-845-4623, h: 409-775-0737, fax: 845-6259
> Personal Address: P.O. Box 2214, College Station, TX 77841-2214
> e-mail: cardoso ee.tamu.edu, url: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ee.tamu.edu/~cardoso
>
>


>
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 11:09:48 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: greasable throw bearing

Hey all

A while ago, a guy was posting about installing a greasable throw bearing
but didn't know what kind to use, or if there was one, etc.

Well, I just got a new one for my FE with NP435, and it is greasable. Any
jobber should have one, it's made by CR Bearing and it's a "heavy duty"
lists for about $55 Can (I got it for $24 but that's another story) and I
don't have the part number here but if anybody needs it I've got it at home.
It should fit any manual with the 1-1/16" 10 spline input shaft.


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:42:39 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: Re:428 flywheel deal

Hey Azie,

Nevermind on my last post, I found another 428 flywheel, completely
reconditioned for $250. This is from information provided on a Ford yard up in
Minnesota that was posted by Brian....Thanks Brian!

Seemed like the way to go....

Next topic will be cylinder heads, so get ready! I've already looked at the
Edelbrock aluminum units, but they make you end up designing a motor with
power at the higher revs....I'm more interested in low-end grunt and
torque....Sounds like small chambers and valves? Any suggestions? I have set
of 360 heads here, but everyone I've talked to said they didn't like them for
some reason, without giving me a specific reason.....

Thanks!
Colorado Jeff

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 14:24:49 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: greasable throw bearing

marko maryniak wrote:
>
> Hey all
>
> A while ago, a guy was posting about installing a greasable throw bearing
> but didn't know what kind to use, or if there was one, etc.
>
> Well, I just got a new one for my FE with NP435, and it is greasable. Any
> jobber should have one, it's made by CR Bearing and it's a "heavy duty"
> lists for about $55 Can (I got it for $24 but that's another story) and I
> don't have the part number here but if anybody needs it I've got it at home.

I'd like the part number. I need a new throwout, but I've been
procrastinating becuase I'll probably need a new every time I go fording.
Don't feel like doin all that work and then have to do it again. Any info
you have will be appreciated. I have a 78, 1/2 ton with NP435.

OX


> It should fit any manual with the 1-1/16" 10 spline input shaft.
>
> marko in vancouver
> marko helix.net
>
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:29:38 -0600 (CST)
From: RL
Subject: Re:Differnce in Mercury/Ford Vans

Since every one is talking about these vans. Is there any real differnce
in trim/prices when Mercury made vans? I know what the Ford van looks like
plus I assume Mercury would have more options and luxury. Of course I
could be wrong. Is there any differnce in the Mercury truck also.
Thanks
Ryan
1971 Torino 500, 1971 F-100, 1977 Hornet Sportabout,
1978 New Yorker e-mail: st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9027
Fairlane Club of America, American Station Wagon Owners
Association

> It's called an Econoline Pickup. By the way, they came in Mercurys too
> (these look amazing!!) (The coolest thing I ever saw was STOCK 65 Mercury
> Econoline van with factory 4-wheel drive!.)

> marko in vancouver
> marko helix.net
>

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:32:57 -0700
From: "Michael Connor"
Subject: Re: Slip yokes

Marko wrote,

- ->My 71 f250 4x4 has the divorced xfer case (205) with short propeller
shaft.
>I thought they stopped making those in 76! Weird your 77 would be that
way.
>Or was it 77-1/2 they changed?

Yep, you're correct. Remote-mount transfer case until March of 1977.
Transfer case bolts to back of trans after that.

Cheers,

Mike
Phoenix, AZ
77 F250 4WD 460/C6

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 11:31:40 -0800
From: "Art Lutz"
Subject: Dennis Carpenter

I found the web page for Dennis Carpenter reproductions. I has the order
forms for there catalogs. Just passing on the information
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dennis-carpenter.com/ford.htm
Art Lutz

78 F-250 XLT 4X4 400 cid

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:10:41 EST
From: SARHOG aol.com
Subject: Re: 9" gear changes

In a message dated 2/5/98 7:45:13 AM Central Standard Time, gpeters3 ford.com
writes:

>
> The carrier has a flange for the ring gear. The only difference I'm
> aware of is the flange location axially to allow for thinner ring
> gears without the carrier hitting the housing. The step over is
> around 3.73 or 3.86 so your are fine in any case.

I have a 4.11 ratio in my truck now, and I'm planning on switching to a
3.50 real soon. After reading the above it made me wonder, is this going to
be an easy switch or is there something I'm missing here? I'd hate to find
out they don't fit when I have the gears from the truck and the Fairlane
laying in the garage floor.

John Z
67 F-100 460/C-6
95 Fatboy

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:43:28 EST
From: RCCRAZZZY aol.com
Subject: 4bbl heads for a 351C

Hi-
Does anyone know where I can get a set of 4bbl heads for my 351C. I dont care
wether they are bare or complete. Any imput would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Michael
RCCRAZZY AOL.COM

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:59:52 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: 390/428 flywheel questions

> Jeff:
>
> The 352,360,390, 406, 410, 427 and 428 flywheels are ALL THE SAME with the
> exception of 361 and 391FT engine flywheels which are thicker.

Wrong! All FE's are zero balanced EXCEPT 428-410. They are externally
(Detroit) balanced.

George

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 17:50:59 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: '71 F100

I'm looking at a '71 F100 XLT shortbed. I saw it once at night. Only
rust I could see was a small spot low on the right door and some along
the top of the side molding on the right side of bed that dosn't go
through.
Are there any rust-prone areas I should look for when I get a chance to
see it in daylight? I'm new to the list but saw mention of front cab
mount area.
I hope it's as good as it looked that night because it's one of my
favorite body styles.

Thanks,
George Herpich
'94 F150 Lightning (sold it Sunday)
'63 1/2 Galaxie
'86 Capri 5.0

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:59:30 -0600 (CST)
From: RL
Subject: Re: '71 F100

Check the area behind the bumper, on the bed, as on mine its rusting out
with nice holes.
Ryan
1971 Torino 500, 1971 F-100, 1977 Hornet Sportabout,
1978 New Yorker e-mail: st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9027
Fairlane Club of America, American Station Wagon Owners
Association

On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, George Herpich wrote:

> I'm looking at a '71 F100 XLT shortbed. I saw it once at night. Only
> rust I could see was a small spot low on the right door and some along
> the top of the side molding on the right side of bed that dosn't go
> through.
> Are there any rust-prone areas I should look for when I get a chance to
> see it in daylight? I'm new to the list but saw mention of front cab
> mount area.
> I hope it's as good as it looked that night because it's one of my
> favorite body styles.
>
> Thanks,
> George Herpich
> '94 F150 Lightning (sold it Sunday)
> '63 1/2 Galaxie
> '86 Capri 5.0
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:09:11 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: '62 Tailgate, unibody?

>
> sorry I hit xmit too soon, HERE'S THE WHOLE MSG
>
> ---"Gary, 78 BBB" wrote:
> I'm kinda curious what truck has a unibody?? I know what unibody
> means with cars that have no frame but I've never heard of a truck
> like that? Is this the chopped off van of the early 60's with pickup
> bed instead of van body??
>
> >No! From 61-63 Ford made pickups with the cab and bed as an integral
> unit in short and long wb form. They still had full frames. 2wd and
> 4wd Flaresides of that period came with separate boxes but the style
> side 4x4s still had separate boxes though...they used the 57-60 unit
> which didn't really match the cab lines very well. I think potential
> vibration caused Ford to be scared of offering the Unibody in 4wd.
> Unibodies are neat....they sorta remind me of big Rancheros. I'm still
> looking for a 61 Unibody myself!
>
> ===
> John Pajak JSPajak rocketmail.com
> Lexington Park, Maryland http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak
>
> 75 F100

I think it was more flex than vibration in the 4x4's. Lets just look at....

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