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fordtrucks61-79-digest Wednesday, March 25 1998 Volume 02 : Number 180



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In this issue:

Re: Timing Retard ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: please help solve a debate [Stu Varner
Re: please help solve a debate [Stu Varner
Re: FE water pump [George Herpich ]
Re: Autolite 4100 [George Herpich ]
Re: Intake manifold cooling, FT V2 #175 ["Gary, 78 BBB"
Re: Ford Vs. Chevy ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: FE water pump [Stu Varner ]
Re: duraspark timing retard ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
re: 16.5's or 16's ["Michael R. Masse" ]
Re: Autolite 4100 [james oxley ]
Re: Read End Gear Ratio [Brian ]
Re: Autolite 4100 [John MacNamara ]
Re: Autolite 4100 [james oxley ]
Re: Timing Retard [sdelanty ]
Re: timing retard [sdelanty ]
Re: FE Water Pump [sdelanty ]
460 build up [am14 chrysler.com]
RE: 16" OR 16.5" [RICHARD_GARBER HP-USA-om21.om.hp.com]
Re: 16 or 16.5's? [Don Grossman ]
Re: Timing Retard ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Deacon [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Autolite 4100 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: Intake manifold cooling, FT V2 #175 [Sleddog ]
Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ??? [Keith Srb ]
Re: Autolite 4100 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 16" OR 16.5" ["Bill Beyer" ]
C-6 Shift Linkage WANTED! [Randy Collins ]
78 F150 [Brett Yerks ]

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:22:41 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Timing Retard

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:59:19 -0800
> Subject: Re: Timing Retard

> > I'd like to play with knock sensors, they seem rather
> > interesting.
>
>
> Why not just install a 460 and not worry about knock!

Now that really is a BIG 10-4. Wedge head 460's just don't knock :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:24:56 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: please help solve a debate

At 07:31 PM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>G*t this:
>When I yanked the engine and removed the original yellow/mustard top
>(autolite) coil from the engine, right after I removed the original black
>(Autolite printed in top ) distributor cap, I found an engine ID tag that I
>carefully set aside so when I reassemble the engine I could put it right
>back where I found it. Tell your boy at the Ford dealership that he is
>either full of doo doo or when they replaced my "rebuilt" engine, they did
>a dang good job of making it all look original and factory like!!. BUT ---
> I have been known to be wrong!
>
>Somewhere I read that the ID stickers on the valve covers replace the cool
>looking little tags. I think they started the valve cover sticker program
>around 1971...maybe it was 1970.
>
Randy, my truck has both id tag under coil and sticker on the valave cover.

I went in the shop this morn before work and wrote the info down from the tag.
engine tag:
360 71 4
01 K 308 J



front diff tag:
D1TA-EC
603289-1 3.54


rear diff tag:
WDM W OKR
3.50 O 05A


Anyone know what these differential numbers mean?
Stu

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:43:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: please help solve a debate

he valave cover.
>
>I went in the shop this morn before work and wrote the info down from the tag.
>engine tag:
>360 71 4
>01 K 308 J
>
>
>
>front diff tag:
>D1TA-EC
>603289-1 3.54
>
>
>rear diff tag:
>WDM W OKR
>3.50 O 05A
>
>
>Anyone know what these differential numbers mean?
>Stu
>

Other than the painfully obvious and left info of 3.50 rear end/ 3.54 front.
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:47:55 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: FE water pump

I've had good luck with Fred Jones rebuilts from Ford. I have not bought one in
years and have no idea the price but they're worth it. It used to be that you could
sometimes find brand new ones in the rebuilt box. If Ford was short of cores they'd
stick new ones in the box. This goes for all rebuilt stuff.
I got a new 5.0 water pump that way recently. If you're in tight with your parts
man maybe you can get him to look through the boxes for new stuff. I don't know
about FE stuff though.

George

Stu Varner wrote:

> >Don't know if you bought the pump yet, but you might want to spend a little
> >more on a good quality one. I know that there have been a lot or rebuilt units
> >(not just water pumps but distributors also) that seem to go out after 2000
> >miles...this especially seems to be common with the "lifetime" warranty
> >ones....figure this one out....
> >
> I must agree whole heartidly with Jeff. I bought my 71 360 with 82,000
> miles on it. It had been sitting for a few years. A new radiator went in
> and water pump right when
> I bought it. Avery cheap aftermarket from a local parts dealer. In the 2
> years I have owned it, I have put two more pumps on. Each at about 1000
> miles. When I rebuild the motor this fall, I aim to buy a new Ford water
> pump from Virginia Mustang supply. They are new and cost about 75.00.
> But, I think it will be worth the money!!
>
> STU
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:02:25 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

Since it's a 600 it would be a perfect size for what you're doing.
I don't know about "best" but it's definitely the simplest. I always liked the
reliability and ease of rebuild. I still have a "five pack" of accelerator pump
diaphragms. The only thing that ever seemed to go bad on them. Most of the time
you don't even need a kit. Just take it apart and go at it with a can of gumout.
I have two of them from '63 Galaxies. I think I'll use one on the 360 in my '71
F100 when I find a 4V manifold.

George

> George: I believe these were used on some of the old big block galaxies and
> some later cars with 428's I believe. Since I have tall gears less 3.00 with
> tires and a low rpm cam it should work ok. The Pony Carburetor shop bench
> tests these on a 429 so it should work.
>
> I use my truck mainly for towing a boat not pulling a sled so don't need peak
> horse power. I'm more interested in torque. Since this is probably the best
> 4 barrel carb ever produced for a production vehicle, I would like to try it
> on my truck.
>
> Thanks
> John
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:24:42 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Intake manifold cooling, FT V2 #175

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:00:49 -0800
> From: John MacNamara
> Subject: Re: Intake manifold cooling, FT V2 #175

> Has anyone seen those intake gaskets that have the screen in the
> ports to break up the fuel charge. Is this just a marketing gimmick
> or is it possible that this could work. ?

Seems like I just read about those in a NASCAR magazine. Seems some
of the teams used to use them for better atomization. As to the
cold vs hot issue, Smokey Yunik pretty much proved that heating the
charge to fully atomize the mixture and introducing it hot into the
cylinder under pressure to regain the mass of a cold mixture makes
the best power.

Racers dump raw fuel into a cold manifold for best mass to expand but
don't care too much about mileage. By dumping more fuel in the mix
than needed they guarantee that every atom of oxygen is used up which
is actually what produces the power. This doesn't mean that the
leanest cylinder is running rich but that the richest cylinder is
well over stoich to ensure the leanest cylinder is at stoich at the
very least. They often stagger jet to accomplish this with the
leanest overall mixture because no manifold delivers exactly the same
mix to all cylinders.

In my experience hot air intake gives the best overall economy and
doesn't really hurt power all that much whereas over rich mixtures in
an unbalanced cold manifold only work at WOT but fail everywhere
else so cold manifolds are not very good for the street IMHO. In
this situation the screen may be helpfull to keep the overall mixture
leaner, not sure.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:37:41 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Ford Vs. Chevy

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:06:50 -0800
> From: Don Grossman
> Subject: Re: Ford Vs. Chevy

> > Chevys are like IBMs and Fords are like Macs. There is more
> > aftermarker support for the IBM & Chevy, they do their job,
> > are OK for the average user, and everyone has one. But everyone
> > knows the Mac & Ford is faster, more reliable, and just plain
> > better.
>
> I like that one Harry but I think we should duck and cover now ;-}

Actually Atari had one of the best operating systems ever invented
but didn't have Bill's marketing strategy. Apple's proprietary
cantankerousness will eventually kill them and OS2 was a better
mouse trap than Win95 will ever be but has IBM's typical
lack of support and enthusiasm. They all suffer from the
same fault, a single port messaging que so now we're back to
Unix...........

I'll take my Fords with my IBM "Type" platform but not brand thanks
:-) (Now I'm ducking :-))


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:40:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FE water pump

At 08:47 AM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I've had good luck with Fred Jones rebuilts from Ford. I have not bought one in
>years and have no idea the price but they're worth it.


George, How might I go about finding Fred Jones and his magical water pump
rebuilding program? As long as his pumps are good and have somewhat correct
casting numbers
for my "resto" I am interested. I'd like to be as authentic as possible
with a rebuilt pump, not as likely with a new pump, in other words a pump
with a casting code of D1 or before. Maybe sometimes I can be too much of
a stickler for details. What a pain I am to myself! No telling how much of
a pain I am to others. ;o)
Stu

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:19 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: duraspark timing retard

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:49:05 -0800
> From: sdelanty
> Subject: Re: duraspark timing retard

> really useful. One of my projects on the "to do" list is to build a
> distributor machine so I can spin it up and see what my advance
> curve really looks like and play with weights and springs until I
> get it just right for my motor.

When you get it figured out send me a copy of the plans :-) I've
been debating looking for a used one for some time but work too many
hours to go anywhere to look :-(

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:49:16 -0600
From: "Michael R. Masse"
Subject: re: 16.5's or 16's

Does anyone know if the 16's will fit with the dual piston calipers?

>
> BDIJXS wrote:
>
> > Is there any reason go with 16.5" rims over 16" rims? Is it true that 16.5"
> > stuff is beginning to get phased out???
> >
> > Colorado Jeff
> >
>
> It depends on what you like. True there is a greater selection of tires for
> the 16" rims but there are still lots of 16.5 wheels and tires out there. I
> use a 16.5 because I like the old style slot mags and they came in 16.5. The
> new popular thing is a 17" wheel. Should you go with that route? I duno.
> Find a set of wheel that you like and go with it.
>
> The only draw back is the fact that the 16.5 doesn't have a safty bead for
> those low air pressure days.
>
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
> ------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:26:14 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

So is this a good carb for offroad? What vehicles could I look in to
find one? I was going to go spreadbore with my 351M, eldb perf manifold,
but that would require an adaptor, and I allready have a spacer plate
needed for EGR valve.

OX

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:36:17 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: Re: Read End Gear Ratio

It makes a difference on what size tires your running. I presently have
15" wheels and tires and have 3:00 gears behind a 460/C6 combo in my
'64. I have plenty of snort ! I tried a set of 3:89's and they were to
low. I'm settling on 3:25's If you have a 9" rear and can borrow a 3rd
member of different ratio's is not that hard to try a few different
sets. Takes about an hour to switch out and then you'll know for sure.

Brian

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:35:53 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

james oxley wrote:

> So is this a good carb for offroad? What vehicles could I look in to
> find one? I was going to go spreadbore with my 351M, eldb perf manifold,
> but that would require an adaptor, and I allready have a spacer plate
> needed for EGR valve.

James: Don't know about off road. Gary with the Bronco could probably
answer that one. I know some people use the Predator carb because I hear
it's not sensitive to vehicle angle. What I have heard is that this carb is
incredibly simple and easy to rebuild and virtually maintenance free.
Supposedly it's ability to atomize fuel exceeds any carb in production today
(not talking FI). Now whether that will work with the crappy gas they sell
nowadays, I won't know till I try it.

I have a 460 with an edelbrock intake so am currently trying to figure out
how to hook it up as it doesn't seem to have vacuum port on it like my
Holley. Speaking of Holley, mine is currently down. For some reason my
electric fuel pump pumps right past the seat yet it is only putting out 5-7
lbs. This is the second time this has happened and I'm fed up with Holleys
as they are junk! (IMHO).

Two trucks back I put a carter AFB on it and it worked perfect and never had
any problems but I've had nothing but problems with this carburetor I have
now. So while it's down I'm trying to get my 4100 hooked up an running.


As to where you can get them. I found another one in a junk yard up in Minn
but the guy wants $100 for it and I only paid $50 for mine. You can buy
them completely rebuilt and ready to go from Pony Carbs which may or may not
be a good deal.

They are getting harder to find especially for the mustangs as people have
discovered their benefits.

That's my .02 and I'm certainly no expert but if I may be sold bold, nuke
Holley!

Best regards
John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:52:36 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

John MacNamara wrote:

> That's my .02 and I'm certainly no expert but if I may be sold bold, nuke
> Holley!

Thanks as bunch John. I don't think Gary has that carb on his bronc,
it's on his 2WD, 460, F-150. (unless he's taken the New lincoln
offroad, Gary??) :-)

OX


>
> Best regards
> John
>
> 78 F250 4X4 Supercab
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:55:34 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Timing Retard

>sdelanty wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to play with knock sensors, they seem rather interesting.


>Why not just install a 460 and not worry about knock!
>
>Dana

Ummm, why? I've heard 460's ping just as bad as anything else.
Besides, I'm on a quest for better gas mileage, not worse...


Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:55:37 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: timing retard

>sdelanty wrote:
>>
>> I've also thought about a purely mechanical setup with a screw mechanism
>> on the body of the distributor so that turning a knob on the dash rotates
>> a cable (like a speedo cable) that turns the screw and physically moves
>> the distributor. So many possibilities, so little time...

Dana replied:
>Ok use locktite on a stud where the dist hold down bolt goes, then use a nylock
>lock nut on top of the stud but don't tighten it all the way.

Yeah, that's the idea.

>next install a
>push-pull cable like a choke and voila adjustable timing.
>
>Probably would work best in an all or nothing usage you could vary it but dist
>rotation might be hard to control.

That's why I think a screw mechanism would be better, because one rotation
of the screw would always equal "x" degrees of distributor rotation.

Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:55:40 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: FE Water Pump

>> So, since I'm now getting ready
>> to replace the water pump on my truck (66 F100, 352), are
>> there any tips, tricks, or gotchas that any kind person on
>> the list can point out? Thanks...

>Hi Jim-
>
>Well, I've seen a few posts giving good advice, so I'll add my 2 cents-
>How's your timimg chain? With the water pump off, your about 90% there.
>Good time to check it and replace, especially if equipped with original
>nylon gear.
>
>Pat Brown, Sebastopol, California

Now THAT is an excellent suggestion, if the motor has many miles on it
the chain is likely pretty sloppy. When I got my 390 it made a funny
knocking noise at idle. The guy said He thought it was a rod knock, but
I heard it and wasn't so sure... It turned out the timing chain was so
loose it was slapping the inside of the timing cover at idle!
If You're motivated to take a look, now would be the time since when the
water pump is off You're halfway there!

Steve

I love deadlines. I especially like the
whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:04:00 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: 460 build up

Tyler writes: >> article on 460 build-ups. I am willing to scan this
article for those of you interested.

I'd be intrested also if I'm not too late.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:15:17 -0500
From: RICHARD_GARBER HP-USA-om21.om.hp.com
Subject: RE: 16" OR 16.5"

Jeff,

I had a 77 F250 with 16.5" rims. I picked it up for a good
price, but it needed tires. Look at the prices for 16.5" tires.
There is not a lot of selection and they are pricey. New tires,
radials ran about $180.00 each. Even bias ply were over $80.00
I'd go with 16". I.M.H.O.

Rich
54 F100

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:23:20 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 16 or 16.5's?

Deacon wrote:
That Dana said:

> >Since we are on the subject of 16.5 wheels......
> >
> >Does anyone have a set of 16.5 X 9.75 stock wheels you want to sell or
> trade?
> >
> >E-mail private danadeb pacbell.net
> >
> >Dana
>
> Man, you want some wide wheels! How wide did they come? The wheels
> Don's getting from me are 16.5 X 8.25. There called "FanJet Racing Wheel
> by Fenton". That is, if these are the wheels Don's looking for.
>
> Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net

I want to start a collection of old mags. I have exactly that size right
now with a 35x12.5x16.5 BFG on the truck right now ( except on slot mags).
I also have a set(mismatched) of 16.5x9.75 that I used for a while and they
worked great too. The 9.75 gave the tires that FAT look where as the 8.25
tuck the sidewalls in more for the skinny look IMHO.

I don't think there were any factoy 16.5 that were that wide. Somewhere
around 7" was about as wide as they came.

Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

P.S. Calling all Slot Mags, Calling all Slot Mags, Wheels wanted on west
coast.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:22:01 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Timing Retard

> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:55:34 -0800
> From: sdelanty
> Subject: Re: Timing Retard

> >Why not just install a 460 and not worry about knock!
> >
> >Dana
>
> Ummm, why? I've heard 460's ping just as bad as anything else.
> Besides, I'm on a quest for better gas mileage, not worse...

My 351M/400 gets 10 and has to run rather retarded (8 deg) to prevent
"excessive" knock, my 460 gets 12 and dosen't knock, ever and is in
poor tune to boot :-)

The difference is in the wedge design of the combustion chambers in
the 460.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:29:51 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Deacon

I've gotten behind on my mail. I'm in digest mode and only at work. I
was off last Friday for a long weekend and I can't seem to catch up -
with my work or the list.

Hope I'm not too late to say, WELCOME BACK DEACON.

For the person wanting a rear mounted gas tank in his early '70's F250
4X4 -- Try any of the '73-'79 F150's that had rear gas tanks. I
think they will bolt in.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:35:56 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:35:53 -0800
> From: John MacNamara
> Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

> > So is this a good carb for offroad? What vehicles could I look in
> > to find one? I was going to go spreadbore with my 351M, eldb perf
> > manifold, but that would require an adaptor, and I allready have a
> > spacer plate needed for EGR valve.
>
> James: Don't know about off road. Gary with the Bronco could
> probably answer that one.

Rochester is supposed to be the best carb for steep angle off
roading. It also happens to be one of the most economical high
performance carbs around if you know how to set up all the little
doflingies. I fully intend to learn..........:-) Offy has manifolds
for the 335 series as well as the 460.

> I know some people use the Predator carb
> because I hear it's not sensitive to vehicle angle. What I have
> heard is that this carb is incredibly simple and easy to rebuild and
> virtually maintenance free. Supposedly it's ability to atomize fuel
> exceeds any carb in production today (not talking FI). Now whether

Only input I've had on this one is that it's horrible on gas and only
moderately better on performance but have no first hand experience
with it. Like anything else, if it's too good to be true it probably
isn't. Metering fuel under street conditions is very complex and
requires some complexity in the carb. The Carter Thermoquad,
Edelbrock and Rochester all have metering rods which in my experience
have always made tuning easier.


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:16:44 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Intake manifold cooling, FT V2 #175

in the early years of hot rodding, this was a trick used. i think that
most modern engines have much better carburation/injection, and that these
screens are no longer much help, unless they would help on engines with too
big ports keep fuel in suspension better. it would be interesting to find
out.

so i think that the answers would be yes, they worked at one time, and yes,
it is probobly more of a marketing gimmick now. i think though that it
may, like i said, be benificial on an engine that has too little port
velocity and the screen would help keep the fuel in suspension.

sleddog

- ----------
From: John MacNamara[SMTP:JohnMcn micom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 9:00 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: Intake manifold cooling, FT V2 #175


Has anyone seen those intake gaskets that have the screen in the ports
to break up the fuel charge. Is this just a marketing gimmick or is it
possible that this could work. ?

Thanks
John
78 F250 4X4 Supercab XLT Lariat

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:54:55 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Was rear axle ratios now top loaders ???

Snip

> If You want to do any serious strip work You'll probably need to score
> a big-block toploader

I have heard this term before, but don't have a clue as to what a bog-block
toploader is, other than it is a 4 speed manual transmission attached to a
big block motor. (sorry Deacon, I couldn't leave myself that wide open :) )

Which Vehicles could you find such a thing in??

Who makes these things and what model numbers are we talking about

I assume that a toploader has the shift lever and shifting mechanism on top
of the tranny, correct?

What would it take to bolt one of these to a 390 ????

Snip
>
> Steve
>
> I love deadlines. I especially like the
> whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.
>

Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner,
Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box Style Side.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:57:45 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:52:36 -0800
> From: james oxley
> Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

> > That's my .02 and I'm certainly no expert but if I may be sold
> > bold, nuke Holley!
>
> Thanks as bunch John. I don't think Gary has that carb on his
> bronc,
> it's on his 2WD, 460, F-150. (unless he's taken the New lincoln
> offroad, Gary??) :-)

I've got the Holley on the 351M/400 in the bronc and OEM spreadbore
on the 460 in the PU and haven't looked at the lincoln yet so don't
know what's on that one. My cleveland also had the OEM spread bore
on it and it definitely ran. I'm thinking about locating one of
these now for my racing effort...........

Haven't taken it off road yet except in the yard but I have to quit
driving the dang thing! Every time I get in it I start thinking
"what a shame to scrap such a nice body!" and then I start losing
my resolve to pull all the parts off for the bronc and scrap the
rest...........even if it only cost me $64 :-(

BTW, (off topic) anyone know how they put roll cages in unibodies
used in dirt track racing? The only fords I can find with frames are
way too big for my taste :-( I suppose I could race a Mon**C*****
with a ford engine.........Ok, bad Idea :-)


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:52:40 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: 16" OR 16.5"

I've been pricing tires for my 79 F250 4X4 with 16.5s and I'm finding that
you're going to pay about $10-$12 more per tire than the equivalent size
15s. As always you gotta shop around for the best deal. I've been looking
for about 4 months and I've found the same exact tire (33X12.5 16.5 BFG MT)
to cost between $140 and $192.

- ----------
> From: RICHARD_GARBER HP-USA-om21.om.hp.com
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: RE: 16" OR 16.5"
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 8:15 AM
>
> Jeff,
>
> I had a 77 F250 with 16.5" rims. I picked it up for a good
> price, but it needed tires. Look at the prices for 16.5" tires.
> There is not a lot of selection and they are pricey. New tires,
> radials ran about $180.00 each. Even bias ply were over $80.00
> I'd go with 16". I.M.H.O.
>
> Rich
> 54 F100

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:07:19 -0800
From: Randy Collins
Subject: C-6 Shift Linkage WANTED!

Help!

I just figured out that I need a different shift linkage setup for my
project truck. I am not sure of all the years the linkage came in but I
believe that all 78 to 79 4WD F150's and F250's and Broncos had the proper
linkage setup.

I just uploaded a couple of pics of the linkage set up to a web site. The
can be viewed at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://netnow.micron.net/~rcollins/ford/c-6linkage.jpg
Be patient the pic is pretty large.

I need all of the linkage that mounts to the frame, transmission and the
shift rod.

I appreciate any help you can give me.
....


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