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fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, March 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 164



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In this issue:

Re: 460 Noises [Pat Brown ]
Re: FE Oil Pump Priming Shaft [sdelanty ]
Re: restrictor plugs [sdelanty ]
Re: Engine Wars?? [A64F100 ]
Re: doohickey--was Oil Filter Adapter [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Steel Braided Lines [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: FE Oil Pump Priming Shaft [danadeb pacbell.net]

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:46:59 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: 460 Noises

Darren wrote:

> Hey guys
> I'm tracing a ticking noise within my truck that is rpm dependent. i
> have removed both valve covers, and found nothing suspect so far.

I pulled a 460 apart once that I thought had a blown head gasket.
It "popped" when a particular cylinder fired, which would get
noticably louder when the oil or PCV cap was removed. I couldn't
find anything wrong with the gaskets, so I pulled the heads apart.
A few of the exhast guides were so badly worn (actually oblong) that
the gases were blowing past into the valve cover. Machinist said
'Yup-pretty normal for a 460'. I guess it has to due with the rockers
pushing against the highly-canted valves, and probably more to due
with people that don't change oil (engine had about 100k on it).

Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:20:31 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: FE Oil Pump Priming Shaft

>Anyone have a Oil Pump Primimg shaft they would want to sell or borrow
>me? I'll pay for shipping to me and back plus $5 or something if I can
>borrow it. The local parts shop wants $87 for one! They want like $8
>for one for my 351M. Whats up with the high price for the FE one?
>Anyways let me know, I know I could always make one, anybody made one
>that has any suggestions on the best way to do it?
>
>Tyler Wilkins

Umm, what's up with that? When I did my FE390 I bought a brand new
one at the speed shop for about $9.

You need another parts house...

Steve

Though good may come of practice, this primal truth endures;
The first time anything is done, it's done by amateurs.
-- Art Buck

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:20:34 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: restrictor plugs

>> I tried some allen set screws, but the only ones my local hardware
>> store had were made of some kind of hardened material and after I
>> toasted 2 drill bits on the first one I went to plan B...


> Try heating the setscrews up red hot and allowing them to cool slowly
>before drilling. This will soften them up so you can drill them.

Yeah, I'm familiar with annealing steel and that would have worked fine,
but it only took a minute to throw a bolt in the bandsaw and make what
I needed.

>Locktite works but I prefered to peen over the the last threads of the
>threaded bore after installing the setscrew restrictors so there is no
>hardened bits of locktite floating around in the oil passages. They will
>probably never come out if you bottom them out but...

I didn't put anything on mine. I did bottom them out, but even if they
get loose they can only back up about 1-2 turns before they hit the
bottom of the rocker pedestal. There's nowhere for them to go unless
the rocker assembly is off.


> I did this on a couple Clevelands with great success in maintaining
>oil pressure. Can the "M" blocks use this as well?

Good question, but I'm not familiar with the "M" oiling system.
Never even had a "M" block opened up, but I've ridden a lot of miles
in a 400M powered station wagon a friends dad had. It pulled good...

Steve

Though good may come of practice, this primal truth endures;
The first time anything is done, it's done by amateurs.
-- Art Buck

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:53:48 EST
From: A64F100
Subject: Re: Engine Wars??

In a message dated 98-03-19 22:57:02 EST, you write:


(Winsland?) using a factory FORD 4BBL intake (NASCAR); 289-351's that pulled
harder then they should have; 650 HP 427's that idled smooth! (Cobra
Repro.) and 460's that were just slugs!


All it takes is MONEY to win any engine war, or to break any rule >>

You got a good point Chris. But it makes me wish I had a lot of the
rectangular green stuff... :)

Later,
Scott L

*Keep It Ford Blue*

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:47:46 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: doohickey--was Oil Filter Adapter

DC Beatty wrote:
>
> Dana,
>
> Funny you should mention the doohickey. Are you talking about that throttle
> linkage contraption thingy that looks like part mouse trap, part lever
> action whirligig rotating erector set thingy with little pins and threaded
> bars and clips on it? If so, mine's all worn out to the point where I have
> custom multi-stage idle speed, my favorite of which is "4 rpm and then
> stall."
>



Yes!!!

Dana

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:19:29 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Steel Braided Lines

I have used them with no problems BUT.......



They are not approved by anyone for highway use and there is probably liability
that will fall on you should they fail ( I.E. jail time for killing someone!!!!
)


I don't think i will use them again and you might be able to contact an after
market manufacturer and have some longer hoses made that would be approved.

Dana

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:43:30 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: FE Oil Pump Priming Shaft

Tyler Wilkins wrote:
>
> Anyone have a Oil Pump Primimg shaft they would want to sell or borrow
> me? I'll pay for shipping to me and back plus $5 or something if I can
> borrow it.


Take the upper guts and drive gear off an old distributor chuck on your drill
and spin in the correct direction.....

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