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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, March 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 157



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In this issue:

Re: Gas Prices ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Dead Transmissions ? [Serian ]
Re: Dead Transmissions ? ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Re: Fram Filters ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 351's [Garr & Pam ]
Gas Wars [pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)]
RE: Oil Pressure Problem [tfmf211 murphyfarms.com]
F-250 Highboy steering conversion [BDIJXS ]
RE: Location ["Gillespie, John D." ]
Re: Truck and Hog Farm ready! and 351C [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Da]
Re: Engine Wars [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
Re: Gas Wars [danadeb pacbell.net]
Location [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: gas prices [Serian ]
Re: Location ["Michael Redden" ]
Pwr steering swap [am14 chrysler.com]
Engines [Serian ]
Re: F-250 Highboy steering conversion ["Michael Connor"
Re: Oil Filter Adapter [Marv Miller ]
RE: gas prices [Sleddog ]
Re: F-250 Highboy steering conversion [Don Grossman ]
wheel size ["JONATHAN RICHARD BUCK" ]
Re: Location [Don Grossman ]
Re: wheel size [Chris Hedemark ]
Re: Location [sdelanty ]
Re: Been here too long! [sdelanty ]
Re: T-Birds + FE's + casting numbers [sdelanty ]
Early distributor death [sdelanty ]
Re: wheel size [Don Grossman ]
Re: wheel size ["Michael Redden" ]
Painted Chrome ["Daniel H. Jenkins" ]

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:12:35 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Gas Prices

George,

I live in the Triangle, too. Read Jon's post again. He said 56 cents a
gallon plus 40 cents tax. 96 cents a gallon! He was just pointing out just
how much tax we pay on a gallon of gas.

Here in Hillsborough I've seen it for 89 cents a gallon in several places.

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
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- -----Original Message-----
From: George Schott
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 11:02 PM
Subject: Gas Prices


Jon Purut where are you getting gas? I live in Smithfield which you know
is only 20 miles from Raleigh and I would drive there to get it at 56
cents a gallon.

Duke's
Fine 69
F-100
302






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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:35:31 -0500
From: Serian
Subject: Dead Transmissions ?

Stu said :
>you tend to get brand loyal especially when you
>have one (3 transmissions) lone terrible experience
>with an 82 Olds Delta 88!!

Is that all ?? :-) So far, I have changed a grand total of 10 (yep
TEN!) transmissions in my wife's two Ford Thunderbirds.
The '79 had 6 changes (and over the course of time it developed
so many other problems that I finally DISMANTLED
it for parts salvage), and so far the '77 has had 4.
(No BS ... the bolts are so used to the in-out routine that all I hafta
do is crack 'em loose with the wrench and they spin out with fingers!)
Somehow, I dont think that is Ford's fault though ... transmissions dont
die like that when I primarily drive the vehicle.

I think I can now easily change a transmission in a mid-sized '70's Ford
in my sleep :-)

== Serian

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:29:58 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Dead Transmissions ?

>Is that all ?? :-) So far, I have changed a grand total of 10 (yep
>TEN!) transmissions in my wife's two Ford Thunderbirds.
>The '79 had 6 changes (and over the course of time it developed
>so many other problems that I finally DISMANTLED
>it for parts salvage), and so far the '77 has had 4.
>(No BS ... the bolts are so used to the in-out routine that all I hafta
>do is crack 'em loose with the wrench and they spin out with fingers!)
>Somehow, I dont think that is Ford's fault though ... transmissions dont
>die like that when I primarily drive the vehicle.
>
>I think I can now easily change a transmission in a mid-sized '70's Ford
>in my sleep :-)


Uh Serian, why not just buy *one* well built transmission and be done with
it? I don't know how much you are spending on transmissions but I'm sure if
you added it up it would be worth the price of one really solidly built
trans. I gotta plug the shop my brother works for here: look up
Transmission Specialties in Malvern, PA (610 area code). They actually
build the trannies and torque converters that you know under other names at
the track like Summit or TCI (and others). My brother, Ed, does mostly
torque converters but I've been through there shop before and there had to
be about 10 drag racers that they were building there (the whole thing, not
just the trans). But the bulk of their work is indeed building
transmissions. He has a beautiful C6 that he made that had a little over
450 horsepower going through it and it handled the load oh so well. Also,
make sure you have a big trans cooler in your wife's car. Heat kills!

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:35:36 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Fram Filters

> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:03:21 -0800
> From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
> Subject: Re: Fram Filters

> >And, by the way, MY Ford unashamedly uses a Fram filter, too.
> >(I use the HP-1).
> >-Marv-
>
> You'd think I had said D*lco or G**dwrench or some other cuss-word.
>
> marko

Yeah and you can get them with impregnated PFT too :-) Ford makes
MotorCraft and MotorCraft makes one of, if not the, best oil filter
on the market (without PFT). It's not sold in every discount store
so may be less available in some areas but I always buy Motorcraft
parts when I can :-)


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:30:44 +0000
From: Garr & Pam
Subject: Re: 351's

Bill Beyer wrote:
>
> ----------
> > From: George Herpich
> > To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> > Subject: Re: 351's
> > Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:38 PM
> >
> > This got turned around into some engine bashing sentimental thing. I
> > have always had Fords and wouldn't think of using another engine in one.
> > Not because I think the others are inferior but because anybody can make
> > power with them and at half the price.
> > At least until the 5.0 Mustangs came around. It' still damned expensive
> > to build an FE but it's still my favorite.
>
> So you're saying it takes more money and more brains to make a Ford go fast
> than a Che*y? This is a good thing?
>
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Takes more money but not in the long run...I know guys who race Che*vys
who put 3 to 4 motors a year in the cars and guys who race fords change
motors every couple of years. What truly cost more?
Chris

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:33:12 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: Gas Wars

>>>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:30:24 -0500
From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
Subject: Gas Prices

Jon Purut where are you getting gas? I live in Smithfield which you know
is only 20 miles from Raleigh and I would drive there to get it at 56
cents a gallon.


Sorry George, what I said was "56 cents plus tax." The tax on gas in
North Carolina is 40 cents per gallon. 56+40=96 cents per gallon, that is
what I pay. What I was trying to do was make a subtle political statement
on taxation. Just think about it, almost half of the price of a gallon of
gas goes to taxes! I sure hope I have not opened up a can of worms.

Off the soap box and on to trucks

Chris, I have an extra 1965 F100 that I can sell you cheap. The only
thing is it is disassembled. I was going to graft a 1963 solid axle front
end to the frame but I changed my mind. The body needs lots of work. Most
of it is stored in a warehouse where I work. Just a thought.


Jon E. Purut
Pickup65 juno.com
JCPurut worldnet.att.net
Web Site Under Construction

1964 F500 (maybe)
1965 F100 SWB Daily Driver
1965 F100 Step side SWB (in about four big pieces and lots of little
ones)
1977 F150
1970 Mustang Fastback
1993 Escort Wagon (wifes car)

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 8:42:43 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: RE: Oil Pressure Problem

> You have Main bearings, do You have rod bearings too?
>How about a new oil pump drive shaft? It's always a good idea to
>replace these when You put in a new pump...
>
> Are You going to remove the crank or just roll new bearings in place
> without dropping the crank? If the crank is coming out You'll need
> H2O pump gaskets, a timing chain cover gasket, front crank seal, and it's
> a good time to replace the timing chain and sprockets.
> If You aren't dropping the crank, be VERY carefull not to nick or scratch
> it when changing the rear seal. wrap some duct tape or electrical tape
> around the journal first to avoid unhappiness later.
>
> Happy motoring,
>
>
> Steve

I don't have new rod bearings. Should I? (very genuine question!) I'm=20
hoping
to cure the oil pressure problem and make this engine last at least 2 more=
=20
yrs.
Then it will all come out for a proper rebuild.

I did get a new shaft, pickup tube and screen for the oil pump.

I'm not going to pull the crandshaft out. I intend on dropping the=20
crankshaft
down slightly and rolling the new bearings into place. I intend on=20
loosening
the main bearing caps and then doing one bearing surface at a time.

Thanks,

-Ted

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:42:22 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: F-250 Highboy steering conversion

Hi Kevin,

Sounds like a lot of trouble to adapt Chevy parts. I was recently checking out
a 78-79 F-250 4x4 and it has the integral steering gear and a really clean
setup. I'll bet it will almost bolt right into your rig.

Ford had the same problems with the F-100-F-150 4x4's until 78.....either it
was a terrible "power assist" setup or the lame "inverted Y" tie rod setup.
The 78-79 years finally had all these problems solved, looks like for both the
1/2 and 3/4 ton models....

Let us know how it goes...

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:49:33 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: Location



Steve D. writes: >>I'm in Geyserville. You're in Sebastopol
eh?

Are these places in North America????????????

Is that in CA or Northern Cal? Actually after living in Vacaville for
years and doing a lot of camping w/the family and w/scouts in that area
I can't wait to get back up there and away from San Diego. FTC, Has
any one got any experience w/replacing the standard distributor for one
w/ electronics in a 240 straight six.

John
66 F100, 240-I6
82 LTD, 302AOD
94 Ranger Splash, 4.0L (I hate liters)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:36:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: Re: Truck and Hog Farm ready! and 351C

- -> the weekest parts of the 351C? What is the best way to make a 4V
- -> streetable other than replacing the heads?

Before you start wondering about streetability for the 4V, remember
*most* 4V Clevelands went into Starsky & Hutch style '72-'74 Gran
Torinos with 2.79 or 3.00 axles, automatic transmissions, and creaking
over the scales at about 4000 pounds. Most of the rest went into the
'70-'71 Torinos; comparatively few wound up in Mustangs or Panteras.

Ford obviously thought the 4V Cleveland was driveable enough.

To make it streetable, add gas and spark. It'll run just fine.

==dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us======================================
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:21:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: Re: Engine Wars

- -> >Oh, I do, too. I just hate seeing Brand X engines in Ford
- -> cars/trucks.

> If you tell anyone I told you I have a certain fondness for 68-thru
> 72 Cutlass 442 and HURST Oldsmobiles.....

My '68 F100 is powered by a '65 Olds 330. Fits and runs just fine.
And when it reaches the end of its rope, I have a fresh 455 waiting.
Whenever I get hold of a scanner I'll put some pictures on my web site.

Of course, my RX-7 has a 302 in it... parts is parts.

==dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us======================================
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:25:42 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Gas Wars

Jon E Purut wrote:
>
> What I was trying to do was make a subtle political statement
> on taxation. Just think about it, almost half of the price of a gallon of
> gas goes to taxes! I sure hope I have not opened up a can of worms.
>
> Off the soap box and on to trucks
>


40 cents a gallon! that seems like a very small price to pay for the freedom to
travel!!!

Most countries pay $2.00 or more per gallon. stop your griping!!!!!!!! ;-)

Dana

P.S. Deacon where are you when I need you!!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:19:20 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Location

Bill writes: >>Hey watch it! I grew up in No. Cal not far from these
places. My wife lived in Guerneville (not far from Sebastopol) when I
met her so needless to say these places have some fond memories for me

No offence meant Bill. I just was not aware of these Names of towns in
N. America. Sounded more like England to me. I lived in Klamath
Falls, Oregon for around 18 months, but I don't remember these names.
I just wanted to know.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:02:12 -0500
From: Serian
Subject: Re: gas prices

Here in northeastern PA, it costs $1.049/gal at most places ...
Couple weeks ago in Pottsville, $0.979/gal

Maybe it's the finding of fuel delivery drivers that aren't intimidated
by the road conditions around here that drives the price up ???

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:53:24 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Location

I would guess that Sebastopol is named after the town that was the site of
a famous
battle in the Crimean War (you know, like "Charge of the Light Brigade",
stuff).
Ford Truck content: "onward, onward, rode the F-600"

mike

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:54:08 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Pwr steering swap

Kevin writes: >>Currently I have a 76 f250 with a 390FE and NP435
4speed. It has the original power assist steering. I'm sure you all
know this system sucks and mine is totaly shot. I'm looking for a good
upgrade. It looks like some components off a mid 70s chevy might work
well. Any ideas would be appreciated.

The '78/'79 F250/F350 is the Intergal (?) type and should be easily
adapted to the earlier years. At least it would still ve Blue Oval.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:16:57 -0500
From: Serian
Subject: Engines

> Jeeze Mike, I hate to start a row, but all motors are as different as
>snowflakes. And they have personalities too. Compare the big lug of a
>400M to a high singing 289 4v, like apples and oranges. Cummins diesel
>to Powerstroke, they are as different as night and day and always will be.

Hey .. speaking of the 289-4V; I got a '78 302 in the garage that I cleaned
up, put a new rear main seal and all new gaskets in ... and on top, an OEM
4 barrel manifold that my uncle gave to me off a '66 289.
( Now thats a heck of a hybrid for ya ! )
I'll most likely end up putting it in my '79 Bronco, with a NP435/NP208
combo behind it. Not sure yet what I would end up doing with the factory
setup 351M-2V/T-18/NP205 that I would have to take out of it yet.

== Serian

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:07:30 -0700
From: "Michael Connor"
Subject: Re: F-250 Highboy steering conversion

Friends,

I converted my 77 F250 a couple of years ago. While not a bolt-in,
the conversion is possible. I used a steering box from a 78 and
my existing pump. I had to weld a mounting plate to the inner
side of the frame and notch the front crossmember.
The drag link (sensor)will have to be replaced and the
steering shaft length to the steering wheel modified.

Another option is to contact Scott Ibeling at Ibeling Conversions,
Aplington, Iowa (sorry, don't have the number here at work) for a
complete conversion kit. He uses a 2 wheel drive box and supplies
everything you need for the conversion. He's been doing it for
many years and has it down to a science.

IMHO, this is one of the best things you can do for your older Ford.
The power assist was not one of Ford's better ideas. The hoses
(4 if memory serves me) were prone to leakage and in the cold of
winter my truck would not steer at all. Switching to the newer
integral steering has made a world of difference in my truck and
I heartily recommend the swap.

FWIW,
Mike
Phoenix, AZ
77 F250 4WD 460/C6
78 Bronco

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:27:02 -0800
From: Marv Miller
Subject: Re: Oil Filter Adapter

Somebody, early-on in this thread wrote:
> >>You cannot use a PH8A. It
> >>will not fit! And if you could get it in, one good stomp on the
> >>gas would cause the engine torque to crush it.

Actually, the engine torque will cause the filter assembly to lift away
from the cross-member. (Exhaust manifold will be lifting on the
driver's side.) This is assuming, of course, that you are in a forward
gear. Stomping on the gas in reverse is a different matter.

- -Marv-

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:29:39 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: gas prices

don't get me started on this one! i live in stroudsburg, pa. from the rt
80 bridge from NJ all the way thru the poconos the price is always high.
it never falls. it is the ability of the retailers to charge high prices
in a "vacation" or "tourist" area that keeps prices high. i have been to
other tourist areas like atlantic city, and the prices are only slightly
higher than the national. but here in the poconos for some reason we never
get any breaks in price. i make someone rich every time i fill up! if it
was because of fuel delivery, then why aren't prices in places like montana
higher? i drive into NJ often, and fill up there when ever i can. the
prices are usually 5-15, sometimes 20 cents less just crossing over the
state line. And in jersey, they even have to pay someone to pump the gas
by law. try finding a full service station in pa! here we pump it
ourselves, and pay more. ok i'll shut up now.

sleddog

ps-high oil barrel prices are good for my business. my costumers do a
large part of their sales to the oil companies, and that helps me. but in
the end, i still prefer low prices, especially since in this area i think
it is the stations that make the extra money, not the oil companies.

- ----------
From: Serian[SMTP:serian usa.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 12:02 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: gas prices

Here in northeastern PA, it costs $1.049/gal at most places ...
Couple weeks ago in Pottsville, $0.979/gal

Maybe it's the finding of fuel delivery drivers that aren't intimidated
by the road conditions around here that drives the price up ???








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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:42:29 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: F-250 Highboy steering conversion

FR8RMECH wrote:

> Hello Ford truck fans. I'm new to the list and the internet in general. I've
> found this interesting and informative. I have owned several ford trucks over
> the years, all 4x4s, a 78 f150 (351M), 83 Bronco (302), and a 86 f250HD (6.9L
> diesel). Currently I have a 76 f250 with a 390FE and NP435 4speed. It has
> the original power assist steering. I'm sure you all know this system sucks
> and mine is totaly shot. I'm looking for a good upgrade. It looks like some
> components off a mid 70s chevy might work well. Any ideas would be
> appreciated.
>
> Kevin
> 76 F250 4x4
> 89 probe
> 95 S-10 Blazer 4x4

If you are thinking about using a power box off of a ch*by 4x4, I have one word
for you. NO

I have one on my 63 right now that I am going to take off and install a 78 F-250
4x4 steering box. The steering arm sticks out too far and will limit your
turning right severly and I mean big time. Plus if you don't set it up right,
get the correct travel of the steering arm, back and forth/up and down you will
also have a case of bumpsteer.

You will have to basicly cut a hole in the frame to mount the box correctly.


from the top looking down...
______________________
_______-----------________

The box is recessed into the frame so you will have to rebuild that section of
the frame.

Look into using a Ford 2x steering box. You will still need to fab up some
pieces but another member of the list has done it.

Oh Dave, help here Please ;)

Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:54:10 -0600
From: "JONATHAN RICHARD BUCK"
Subject: wheel size

I recently purchased a '70 1/2 ton 4x4 that has 16 in. 5 bolt wheels.
I realize the truck is 28 years old and the wheels may have been
changed at one time or another. I thought maybe it was an option on
some 4x4's at the time.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:15:27 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Location

Gillespie, John D. wrote:

>
>
> Steve D. writes: >>I'm in Geyserville. You're in Sebastopol
> eh?
>
> Are these places in North America????????????
>
> Is that in CA or Northern Cal? Actually after living in Vacaville for
> years and doing a lot of camping w/the family and w/scouts in that area
> I can't wait to get back up there and away from San Diego. FTC, Has
> any one got any experience w/replacing the standard distributor for one
> w/ electronics in a 240 straight six.
>
> John

How about Willits, Mars or something.

If you are thinking about during a Duraspark for your 6 go ahead. It is
quick and easy. You need to get all the parts just like doing a v8. Need
the distributor, wires, cap, wiring and brain box.

First take note as to where the wires and cap line up.

Take off the cap, leaving the wires attached, and mark your rotor location
and vacuum port location. Next remove the retaining bolt and distributor.

Install the new distributor so that when installed the rotor and vacuum
port are in the same places as the old distributor.

Next put on the new cap and rotor. You might want to put the rotor on
first. It's a little easier that way ;)

Match up the old cap to your new one so that the plug wires are going to
be in the same location and install one wire at a time.

I did it this way but you could do the find #1 method if you prefer.

Next is a good time to install the wiring from the distributor to the
brain box, and mount the box in a convenient location.

Powering up the box. You will have 3 wires looking you in the face here.
Lets start with the simple one. Power to the coil. You can simply hook
up the old coil wire to the new one.

Wire #2 will be power to the box. You will want to run it to a switched
on run and start only power source. A good location for this is at the
ignition switch before the resistance wire to the coil.

Wire #3 is an ignition retard switch. When you go to start the engine it
tells the box to back the timing off for easier starting. run this to the
start wire on the Starter relay.

Clean everything up and you are on your way.

Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:07:41 -0500
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: wheel size

JONATHAN RICHARD BUCK wrote:

> I recently purchased a '70 1/2 ton 4x4 that has 16 in. 5 bolt wheels.
> I realize the truck is 28 years old and the wheels may have been
> changed at one time or another. I thought maybe it was an option on
> some 4x4's at the time.

As far as I am aware, 16" tires weren't available on much of anything
back then. If anything, it *might* have been available with a 16.5" rim
or maybe a previous owner "upgraded" to 16.5" rims.

Are you sure that they are 16" and not 16.5"???

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:20:38 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Location

>>Steve D. writes: >>I'm in Geyserville. You're in Sebastopol eh?

>Are these places in North America????????????
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.

Nope, they're in California... (-:

Steve

Opportunity may knock only once,
but temptation leans on the doorbell.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:20:41 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: Been here too long!

Deacon wrote:
> I've been on this list for a long time and it's time to move on.
>Take it easy Gang and keep up the good work.
>
>Later!
>
>Deacon

NO Deacon! Who are we gonna turn to for words of wisdom, words of
smart-assdom and lyrics to favorite songs?
Don't You love us anymore?

Sighhh... The world just got a little less fun...


Steve

Opportunity may knock only once,
but temptation leans on the doorbell.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:20:44 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: T-Birds + FE's + casting numbers

>
>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:15:54 -0800
>From: Don Grossman
>Subject: Re: T-Birds + FE's + casting numbers
>
>Ok what can you tell by the casting numbers on a 390 and what should I look
>for on my T-Bird 390?
>
>Thanks

Hell, I couldn't even *find* casting #'s when I had my 390 block stripped
down... It was all clean and I searched everywhere.
Where are they supposed to be?

Steve

Opportunity may knock only once,
but temptation leans on the doorbell.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:20:46 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Early distributor death

Hey Y'all,

I've seen a couple posts now about trashed distributor bearings
and someone wisely suggested that You need to remove the rotor
and put a couple drops of motor oil on the felt pad at the top
of the shaft...
That's the only way the upper bearing gets any lube so if You
can't remember the last time You oiled Yours or if You didn't
know it was there, it's long overdue!
They need a drop or 2 of oil a couple times a year.
It only takes half a minute and it makes a big difference in
distributor longevity.
Thanks for the reminder to whoever started the thread, I'm gonna
oil mine today! It's been nearly a year...

Steve

Opportunity may knock only once,
but temptation leans on the doorbell.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:26:48 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: wheel size

Chris Hedemark wrote:

> JONATHAN RICHARD BUCK wrote:
>
> > I recently purchased a '70 1/2 ton 4x4 that has 16 in. 5 bolt wheels.
> > I realize the truck is 28 years old and the wheels may have been
> > changed at one time or another. I thought maybe it was an option on
> > some 4x4's at the time.
>
> As far as I am aware, 16" tires weren't available on much of anything
> back then. If anything, it *might* have been available with a 16.5" rim
> or maybe a previous owner "upgraded" to 16.5" rims.
>
> Are you sure that they are 16" and not 16.5"???

16 were used a lot even back to the 40's. The military Jeep came with 16"
rims and I think that the stock size for the Ford 4x4 was a 16" wheel, or
it may have been an option. Recently I looked at a 65 F-250 with the
factory wheel, 17"ers.

Lots of tire manufactures are making 16" tires these days so getting a tire
you want will not be a problem.

Don Grossman....

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