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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, March 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 156



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In this issue:

Re: Towing [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Fram Filters [Marv Miller ]
Location [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Fram Filters [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Number 4 Main Oil Feed Hole [Marv Miller ]
391 Manifold [BDIJXS ]
Re: Location ["Bill Beyer" ]
RE: Been here too long! [Sleddog ]
Re: 351's [George Herpich ]
Re: Reliability Tricks While On the Stand [Ken Payne
Re: 351's ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: Engine Wars [Garr & Pam ]
Gas Prices [Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)]
Re: IGNITION IGNORAMUS [JRFiero ]
Re: '79 Lincoln 460 [DGholsM ]
Re: Plug [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Oil Problems [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: FE Distributor/Ignition [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Location [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: T-Birds + FE's + casting numbers [Don Grossman ]
Re: Been here too long! [Don Grossman ]
Re: remove from list [Raym351 ]
Re: 391 manifold [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Oil Problems ["Arnold Gladwell" ]
Re: remove from list ["Arnold Gladwell" ]
Engine Wars, 351s, V10s, and V12s. ["Harry Jennings"
Re: Been here too long! [FoMoCoNUT2 ]
Re: Location ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: Been here too long! [Stu Varner ]
Re: Been here too long! ["Michael Redden" ]
Stu ["Michael Redden" ]
Chat room ["Michael Redden" ]
Grass Valley outing [Fred F Robinson ]
Re: Intro [Pat Brown ]
Oil filter adapter (Was Re: Reliability Tricks While On the Stand) [Pat B]
F-250 Highboy steering conversion [FR8RMECH ]
391 Manifold, FTV2 #154 [Alan Mittelstaedt / Chad Dailey

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:35:13 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Towing

>p.s. it's a manual tranny
>
You could probly use a dolly, it'd steer nicer for you. It shudn't compress
the springs on your Ford too bad either.

BTW with the manual tranny, you'll be able to have control on slowing down.
Just remember to give it a bit of gas when letting the clutch out on a
geardown so you don't get the sudden jolt of engine braking. I used to haul
an excavator around on a 35' float behind a dump truck and I sure did
appreciate all the gearing down I could do.


marko

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:54:03 -0800
From: Marv Miller
Subject: Re: Fram Filters

"Gary, 78 BBB" wrote:
Re: Shorter Oil Filters
>> From: Marv Miller
>> Subject: Re: Shorter Oil Filters
>> PH-43 is a little shorter, PH16 is even more so.
>
> For shame! Fords use MotorCraft filters part# Fl-300A or FL-1A or
> Fl-400A for the later ones with small engines like the V-6's.

Original poster seemed partial to Fram filters when he mentioned the
PH8A being the one that wouldn't fit. So I gave him some other Fram
numbers.

And, by the way, MY Ford unashamedly uses a Fram filter, too.
(I use the HP-1).
- -Marv-

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:56:49 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Location

Steve D. writes: >>I'm in Geyserville. You're in Sebastopol eh?

Are these places in North America????????????

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:03:21 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Fram Filters

>"Gary, 78 BBB" wrote:
> Re: Shorter Oil Filters
>>> From: Marv Miller
>>> Subject: Re: Shorter Oil Filters
>>> PH-43 is a little shorter, PH16 is even more so.
>>
>> For shame! Fords use MotorCraft filters part# Fl-300A or FL-1A or
>> Fl-400A for the later ones with small engines like the V-6's.
>
>Original poster seemed partial to Fram filters when he mentioned the
>PH8A being the one that wouldn't fit. So I gave him some other Fram
>numbers.
>
>And, by the way, MY Ford unashamedly uses a Fram filter, too.
>(I use the HP-1).
>-Marv-

You'd think I had said D*lco or G**dwrench or some other cuss-word.

marko

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:14:46 -0800
From: Marv Miller
Subject: Number 4 Main Oil Feed Hole

am14 chrysler.com Azie wrote:
Subject: Oiling hole

> talking FE here, while you're at it lay an old half shell bearing in #4
> main in the block and you will see that the oil hole is half covered up
> with the bearing. Scribe the block using the half bearing as a
> template and open this hole up, too.

Yes! I had forgotten that I did that, too. This is best accomplished
with a high-speed tool like a Dremel with a 1/8 inch carbide burr
chucked up. Check all five of these, as I remember at least one other
that was partially plugged, though not quite so drastically. This might
be a good time to completely de-burr the block, as well. Then it all
goes back to the hot tank. This will require knocking the cam bearings
out. But I DO remember the original post, and he didn't really have it
all torn down. Just on the stand. Are we getting carried away? "Spoze
so.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:16:11 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: 391 Manifold

It should be about the same as the FE 390/428, but heat risers are probably in
the wrong place.....might even have smaller intake runners....those FT's have
pretty small valves....

Levi, pick up Steve Christ's book "Big Block Fords" (or something close to
this)...it will talk about your 391....

Colorado jeff

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:25:51 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: Location

Hey watch it! I grew up in No. Cal not far from these places. My wife lived
in Guerneville (not far from Sebastopol) when I met her so needless to say
these places have some fond memories for me. I've traveled to all but 6 of
the 50 states and I can assure you there are alot worse places to live and
very few better.

Bill Beyer
79 F250 4X4 400M C6 NP205
former Novato, CA resident

Mandatory FTC: Anybody ever have a problem with the wipers not turning off?
Yes the switch has already been replaced.

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> From: am14 chrysler.com
> To: Fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Location
> Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 2:56 PM
>
> Steve D. writes: >>I'm in Geyserville. You're in Sebastopol eh?
>
> Are these places in North America????????????
>
> Azie
> Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:58:03 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Been here too long!

no no no you can't go! quick! someone tie him to his computer and don't release him till he gives in!

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From: Deacon[SMTP:deconblu gte.net]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 4:49 PM
To: Ford Trucks
Subject: Been here too long!

I've been on this list for a long time and it's time to move on.
Take it easy Gang and keep up the good work.

Later!

Deacon






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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:38:21 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: 351's

sdelanty wrote:
>
> >
> >Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:38:00 -0500
> >From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
> >Subject: Re: 351's
> >
> >- -> Crank breakage isn't the problem. It's bearing speed due to the
> >- -> overly large main
> >- -> journals. That's why you can't spin them as high as a C.
> >
> > Sure, whatever you say. Far be it from me to spread enlightenment.
> >
>
> So they are about 3" aren't they? Isn't that about the same
> bearing size
> as the 460's ?
> People spin 460's to pretty high RPM's with not much trouble...
> What, 8K? Sleddog? How fast to folks spin 460's?
>
It's a reliability issue. 351w's tend to wipe the mains clean of oil at
high rpms.
I'm not talking street or truck engines. I thought we were talking all
out hp. Where
a small block needs to make serious rpm to compete. You can make plenty
of hp with a
W, but why do you suppose someone bothered to build that hybrid block?
Guys running w's in serious racing tend to use power adders and lower
rpms. The na cars run stroked 302's.
This got turned around into some engine bashing sentimental thing. I
have always had Fords and wouldn't think of using another engine in one.
Not because I think the others are inferior but because anybody can make
power with them and at half the price.
At least until the 5.0 Mustangs came around. It' still damned expensive
to build an FE but it's still my favorite.

George

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:51:58 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Reliability Tricks While On the Stand

At 10:27 PM 3/15/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>I forget the number but it's the one for police mustangs and lightnings
>>>with oil coolers........George
>>
>>I'm running this filter arrangement. You cannot use a PH8A. It
>>will not fit! And if you could get it in, one good stomp on the
>>gas would cause the engine torque to crush it. I use a FL300.
>>Its the same sized fitting and just as wide but about an inch shorter.
>>It gives about 1" cross-member clearance. I've had no problems
>>with oil pressure with this arrangement.
>>
>>Ken
>
> I've got that filter adapter with a PH8A on my '71 F100 !?!?
> There's not a lot of room to spare, but there's enough to get the filter
> on and about 3/8" clearance to the Xmember once it's on...
> I wonder what's different?
>
> Whazzup with that Ken?
>
>
> Steve

My engine came out of an LTD. The engine mounts don't seem to
be the same. I couldn't use the truck mounts. The mounts are
kinda square shaped.

Ken Payne

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:04:23 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: 351's

- ----------
> From: George Herpich
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: 351's
> Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:38 PM
>
> This got turned around into some engine bashing sentimental thing. I
> have always had Fords and wouldn't think of using another engine in one.
> Not because I think the others are inferior but because anybody can make
> power with them and at half the price.
> At least until the 5.0 Mustangs came around. It' still damned expensive
> to build an FE but it's still my favorite.

So you're saying it takes more money and more brains to make a Ford go fast
than a Che*y? This is a good thing?

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:17:52 +0000
From: Garr & Pam
Subject: Re: Engine Wars

Stu Varner wrote:
>
> At 05:58 PM 3/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Believe it or not, I do have a tremendous fondness of "certain" GM engines
> >>and vehicles.
> >
> >
> >Oh, I do, too. I just hate seeing Brand X engines in Ford cars/trucks.
> >When I was making my rounds today I passed a place I never saw before,
>
> Chris,
> If you tell anyone I told you I have a certain fondness for 68-thru
> 72 Cutlass 442 and HURST Oldsmobiles.....well, I'll have to drop agent
> orange on your house!
> ;O) But definitley no BOWTIES!
>
> STU
> Nuke GM!
>
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What about the old Chevy 302? I personally don't like any Chevy motor
but for you horsepower guys this motor was awesome. VERY UNRELIABLE
though! If I had to pick one it would be the LS6 454 Chevelle.
Still enjoy my 351W Lightning alot more than I would ANY car!
Chris

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:30:24 -0500
From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
Subject: Gas Prices

Jon Purut where are you getting gas? I live in Smithfield which you know
is only 20 miles from Raleigh and I would drive there to get it at 56
cents a gallon.

Duke's
Fine 69
F-100
302

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:29:43 EST
From: JRFiero
Subject: Re: IGNITION IGNORAMUS

In a message dated 98-03-15 10:45:51 EST, you write:


replacing my distributor with a non-mechanical, electronic ignition set
up. Some of the systems that I've been researching are more expensive
than others, I'd like to know how to spend my dollars wisely. Does
anyone on the list have any experience with the following products on a
FE series engine?

6) Ford's DuraSpark system
>>
Look at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/duraspark.html

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:36:58 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: Re: '79 Lincoln 460

After registering the car it turnedout to be a 1977. And thed 460 stays in the
car I'll just juice up this 360. Any tips allready bought some headers and
ordered the Eldebrock Special for this Engine the catalog lists mostly 390's.?

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:01:24 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Plug

Isn't there a small freeze plug at the end of each rocker shaft on a 390. Is it
possible that the plug in the oil pan was the end plug from the shaft and this
is where an oil pressure leak is coming from?

I know squat about 390s but maybe this rings a bell for someone!

Dana

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:06:12 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Oil Problems

Is the car a multi-fuel type and currently using mostly alcohol?

My mother in laws car is and the engine says use a certain type of oil. She
asked why and they said that if she was to run alcohol the standard oil would
not be compatible. I don't know what the symptoms would be.

Dana

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:10:22 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: FE Distributor/Ignition

BDIJXS wrote:
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Well, I can add one more to your list, the Mallory Unilite. I bought one of
> the Unilite point conversion deals about 6 years ago, and it ran great the
> whole time.

I used up ( AKA they broke )two of these in 3 years. Very expensive and you have
to use their rotor which is not widely stocked.

Dana

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:14:39 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Location

Sounds like the gizmo inside the gear box part of the wiper motor is bad in some
way. ( you know the contact gizmo that keeps the wiper motor going till the
blades gets back to a horizontal position )

Dana

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:15:54 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: T-Birds + FE's + casting numbers

Ok what can you tell by the casting numbers on a 390 and what should I look
for on my T-Bird 390?

Thanks

Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:17:17 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Been here too long!

Deacon wrote:

> I've been on this list for a long time and it's time to move on.
> Take it easy Gang and keep up the good work.
>
> Later!
>
> Deacon

Deacon!

Wait. NNNNOOOOO!

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:16:22 EST
From: Raym351
Subject: Re: remove from list

In a message dated 98-03-16 18:49:02 EST, you write:


Sender: owner-fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net >>
please remove from 61-79 ford list
thank RAY

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:23:36 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 391 manifold

Does the valve cover bolt to the intake manifold as well as the head?

If so, its not going to work on a 460. The 460 looks like a huge 302/351W

Dana

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:31:28 -0600
From: "Arnold Gladwell"
Subject: Re: Oil Problems

No, no alcohol. It runs on typical unleaded. No special fuel or additives.

Arnold
79 F250, 400, 4spd Extended Cab
(looking for a good F100 for my son)


- -----Original Message-----
From: danadeb pacbell.net
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: Oil Problems


>Is the car a multi-fuel type and currently using mostly alcohol?
>
>My mother in laws car is and the engine says use a certain type of oil. She
>asked why and they said that if she was to run alcohol the standard oil
would
>not be compatible. I don't know what the symptoms would be.
>
>Dana
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:34:16 -0600
From: "Arnold Gladwell"
Subject: Re: remove from list

It wasn't a removal message. I had a question. Sorry for the
misunderstanding.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Raym351
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: remove from list


>In a message dated 98-03-16 18:49:02 EST, you write:
>
>
> Sender: owner-fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net >>
>please remove from 61-79 ford list
>thank RAY
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>

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:12:22 CST
From: "Harry Jennings"
Subject: Engine Wars, 351s, V10s, and V12s.

When I posted my 351's post I wasn't trying to say any engine is better
than another. It was just that I saw some confusion about the
differences between the 351's (both here and at www.cartalk.com). So, I
thought I would post the major differences and the *weakest* link of
each engine.

When I said a 351M couldn't be races I followed that by a ...;) They
*can* be raced, they just *shouldn't*....;) Really though, I would never
attempt to turn a 351M past 6000 RPM (they really to have weak blocks
when you start spinning them that fast). If *I* was going to build a 351
to spin that fast I would start with a C or W. But that doesn't mean
that it can't be done. Hell, I even built a nice 351M a few ears back
(had a 1500-6500 RPM intake/cam, but never went past 5900 RPM). It
hooked up good and pulled real hard at 3500 RPM. It was a great *mild*
street engine (surprised one Camaro).

Also, I have seen some things about the Dodge V10 floating around here.
Well, any of you *older* guys remember the old GMC V12? In the '60s GMC
made four MASSIVE V6's; 305, 351, 401 and 4?? cubic inches (YES V6's!).
GMC hooked two 351 V6's together making a 702ci V12. I have never seen
one, but I bet they were cool.

BTW, I have one of those old V6's laying around (I am not sure if it is
a 305 or 351). It came out of a '65 GMC 1/2 ton. Pulled real hard off
the line! All torque! (I am talking max torque 2000 RPM). A real
conversation piece. When I mantion it most people *correct* me by saying
"No, you mean a 305 or 351 V8." He, he, he. Oh yeah, the engine *looks*
as big as a V8 and has the spark plugs on the intake side of the head
rather than the exhaust side.

Still not as cool as a Ford 300 I6, though...:)

Harry.


Visit me at
HREF="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3271/index.html">my new
web page.


______________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:18:27 EST
From: FoMoCoNUT2
Subject: Re: Been here too long!

Deacon wrote...



is this Deacons way of saying he broke paroll and will be away for awhile
.?

.... We are going to miss ya dude....

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:21:50 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: Location

- ----------
> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Location
> Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 6:14 PM
>
> Sounds like the gizmo inside the gear box part of the wiper motor is bad
in some
> way. ( you know the contact gizmo that keeps the wiper motor going till
the
> blades gets back to a horizontal position )

I think it's called a park switch. I think I'm gonna hafta replace the
motor. Just wondered if anyone else on the list had a similar problem.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:27:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: Been here too long!

At 01:49 PM 3/16/98 -0800, you wrote:
> I've been on this list for a long time and it's time to move on.
>Take it easy Gang and keep up the good work.
>
>Later!
>
>Deacon
>

Deacon,
Was it something i said ........you can't leave us!
Betcha a buck he bought a Chebby! Benedict Arnold....kidding!
Good luck~
STU

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:36:31 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Been here too long!

No longer a sneakin deacon
I'll have to pester him at his website!

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:38:15 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Stu

Stu

I thought you were only onine at school!

You're needed in the chat room. There's a Chevy lover causing real
trouble!
MIke

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:41:22 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Chat room

This is the first time I tried the chat room (tonite). Had guys from all
over the country.
Was great until a guy going by the username "ford sucks" showed up to
torture us!

Mike

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:11:56 -0800
From: Fred F Robinson
Subject: Grass Valley outing

Hay guys meet us in Grass Valley on March 21, 1998, Jeff Carver and Fred
Robinson what to have "you all come, ya Hear"

Directions to Swensons in Grass Valley:
Highway 49 through Auburn all the way to Brunswick exit.
It's 26 miles from Auburn to Grass Valley.
At Brunswick turn right at the light at the end of the off ramp.
At the next light (less than a block away) turn right again.
The shopping center on the right is where Swensons is.
It is at the near end of the complex. Small sign.
Obviously look for a '64 light blue CrewCab. Owner
may have his '37 Chevy Panel hot rod there too.

For no apparent reason, let's set a time of 11:00.
It takes about 1 hour and a half to get from downtown
Sacto to Grass Valley, give or take.

For anyone wanting to drop off people at Nevada City,
they need to get on the Broad Street exit and hang a
left to get to downtown NC. Grass Valley can be
reached at the Bennett Street exit, hang a left.


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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:12:25 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: Intro

Ok guys, thanks for the 'warm' welcome. Nothing like a new member who
introduces himself and then leaves town for the weekend! And on digest
mode delay to boot!

A Northern Cal get together sounds good, any swap meets coming up
nearby?

Marko - Sorry to hear about your nose, get a steering wheel puller.
REAL cheap at Harbor / Post / etc. I've manged to rearrange my teeth
twice in my 43 years, once eating a steering wheel for breakfast
(Cortina vs. light pole), second a couple years ago via bad hop at
third base. Why are they called softballs, anyway? Oh yea, I've retired
from softball. And told my wife, next time anything hits me in the
mouth,
just shoot me on the spot:-) Between car repair and home remodeling,
I've got enough ARGGHHs to make me hurt just thinking about them. Good
thing I make a living staring at a computer, it gives my body time to
heal itself from my weekend Tim Allen lifestyle.

Hey Stu, go ahead keep nuking. Three trannys in ANY car is too many. I
sold a little Boo-Ick a year or so ago, it seems like something would
break weekly on it.

FTC- Well, I'll defer to my next post to keep on subject

Pat
Sebastopol, CA

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:35:14 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Oil filter adapter (Was Re: Reliability Tricks While On the Stand)

George wrote:
>>[vertical oil-filter adapter for FE snipped]
>>I forget the number but it's the one for police mustangs and lightnings
>>with oil coolers........George


To which Ken replied:

>I'm running this filter arrangement. You cannot use a PH8A. It
>will not fit! And if you could get it in, one good stomp on the
>gas would cause the engine torque to crush it. I use a FL300.
>Its the same sized fitting and just as wide but about an inch shorter.
>It gives about 1" cross-member clearance. I've had no problems
>with oil pressure with this arrangement.

And Steve wondered:

> I've got that filter adapter with a PH8A on my '71 F100 !?!?
> There's not a lot of room to spare, but there's enough to get the filter
> on and about 3/8" clearance to the Xmember once it's on...
> I wonder what's different?

It's the manifold Steve! You've finally found something it's good for!
With the aluminum replacing that 80 lb chunk of cast iron, your motor
sits higher!

Told ya' I've been lurking a while....

Pat Brown
Sebastopol, CA
patb sonic.net

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:23:22 EST
From: FR8RMECH
Subject: F-250 Highboy steering conversion

Hello Ford truck fans. I'm new to the list and the internet in general. I've
found this interesting and informative. I have owned several ford trucks over
the years, all 4x4s, a 78 f150 (351M), 83 Bronco (302), and a 86 f250HD (6.9L
diesel). Currently I have a 76 f250 with a 390FE and NP435 4speed. It has
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