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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, March 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 154



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In this issue:

Re: Matched set of Lincolns [George Herpich ]
Re: Today, not quite the day! ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Morning sickness [am14 chrysler.com]
Tow [am14 chrysler.com]
460, guess how much?? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Gas Prices [pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)]
Re: Morning sickness [ROSITCH SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU]
RE: gas prices ["Gillespie, John D." ]
Re: Gas Prices [Chris Hedemark ]
RE: Ranchero info ["Gillespie, John D." ]
RE: Towing ["Gillespie, John D." ]
FE Distributor/Ignition [BDIJXS ]
Re: Shorter Oil Filters ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Ignition Changeover ["Gillespie, John D." ]
RE: Engine Wars - Clear the water [Sleddog ]
RE: 460, guess how much?? [Sleddog ]
RE: 351's [Sleddog ]
Oil Problems ["Arnold Gladwell" ]
Re: Engine Wars - Clear the water [Chris Hedemark ]
Mix n Match [am14 chrysler.com]
For sale up North [Rab Rawlins ]
RE: Ranchero info [mmcewen gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (John McEwen)]
Oiling hole [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: IGNITION IGNORAMUS [Brian ]
Oil Pressure Problem [tfmf211 murphyfarms.com]
391 manifold [Dennis Pearson ]
Re: gas prices [Brian ]
Re: IGNITION IGNORAMUS [Chris Hedemark ]
300 6cyl [Brian ]

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:05:20 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: Matched set of Lincolns

Dennis K. Austin wrote:
>
> Sorry George..
> Checked with my old man. He says that Towncar was one half of a matched
> set that was special ordered and a Special Edition at that. He had a
> Mark and a Towncar ordered to match. His Lincolns were Special Edition
> Cartiers He still had his '59 Bentley show car at that time.
> (This was the period where Lincoln offered about 5 different special
> order cars based on some special designers names. These particular cars
> came in a soft grey non-metallic paint with red pin strips and grey
> matching interior. He mentioned the special door molding was at that
> time $100.00 per foot too.(Somebody swiped a section of it off the
> Towncar.)
>
> He was offered the 477, in that car, so he ordered it. (and I remember
> the breather with the label that stated so). I think my neighbor (who
> owned Hurricane Engines, an engine rebuilder) had the 512 or bigger in
> his Caddy.
>
> I also, remember cleaning up the mess under the Towncar hood when the
> battery exploded one day. My father did say that car would hold 55
> gallons of gas. A real killer for these days. I was pumping gas
> into my '58 Fairlane 500 at 48 cents per gallon back then. (A note for
> you guys up on the East coast...Yesteday, I bought gas here in
> Shreveport, Regular Unleaded at 98.9 cents per gallon from Mobil.)
>
> And to quote someone else on this post. There were a lot of thing Ford
> did, but not officially. So, Ford/Lincoln historians could there have
> been a special order 460 bored to 477, sometime in the '75-'76 year?
>
> -=DENNIS=-
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I only know of the 477 truck engine and I worked on many of them. They
are twice the size of the 460.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:45:37 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Today, not quite the day!

>Chris, $1200.00 is not too much if the truck is in good shape and runs
>well. I paid $975.00 for mine from a used car lot in Durham. It ran
>poorly and needed work but it had three things going for it that made it
>worth the money to me.


I would agree. But what I am afraid of is all the work this guy put into
the truck only served to make it worse, and unsafe at that. It would be far
more (and tougher) work for me to find and undo everything he did and redo
it right than it would be to find an original truck that is not in running
condition and do it all from the bottom up. Not to mention the frame was
broken!!!!!

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:05:34 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Morning sickness

Don writes: >>morning sickness" (the transmission is a little balky in
the morning - - doesn't shift into third gear until it covers about
three miles or so and won't go into reverse until it's warmed up
also).

A fluid/filter change can sometimes cure this. If you haven't done it
lately, it would worth a try. The seals do get brittle with time, but
the filter gets clogged with derbis over time and causes low fluid
pressure to the valves, clutches, etc and sometimes causes this exact
same thing.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.



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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:18:47 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Tow

Dan writes: >>Should I risk it and just 2-wheel dolly an obviously
heavier Ford truck behind my Isuzu?

Or, should I tow the Isuzu behind the F100 with it's newly installed
390? (i'll have put at least 1000 miles on it and made the adjustments
already)

Now Dan, what type answers did you really expect from a Ford Truck
enthuasist list???

Tow the IZ - Drive the FOMOCO.


Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:58 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: 460, guess how much??

Well, I went shopping for a race car Saturday and found a 70'ish
Torino with no doors but I think I might take it and try to find
doors for it but I bought a car with a 460 in it, 78 Lincoln town car
for.............$64 and drove it home! Sad thing is the body's in
excellent shape but all I want is the engine, tranny and maybe the
rear end. It appears to have drum brakes tho so it wasn't all that
much of a bargain but maybe I can adapt the steering column and
cruise control and use the power brake system which should be a vast
improvement over the bronco's. Just ideas, but most probably won't
pan out. I'll keep all the window motors of course and maybe the
intermitant wipers etc.. Shame about the body though, hate to scrap
a good piece of sheet metal, must be the pack rat in me :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:50:40 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: Gas Prices

Here in Raleigh I pay 56 cents a gallon plus tax (40 cents per gallon.)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: ROSITCH SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: Re: Morning sickness

Thanks Azie, I tried changing the fluid and filter soon after this
problem started..... no difference.

Thanks for the input,
Don Rositch
'66 F250
'68 Mustang coupe

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:27:15 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: gas prices

San Diego $1.11 for 87; and 1.31+ for 92 or better

John
66 F100, 240-I6
82 LTD 305AOD
94 Ranger Splash, 4.0L (I hate Liters)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:31:36 -0500
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: Gas Prices

Jon E Purut wrote:
>
> Here in Raleigh I pay 56 cents a gallon plus tax (40 cents per gallon.)

Attribute it to monday morning mental retardation (a temporary ailment
to be sure, but I suffer a relapse approximately every week at this
time. I understand this condition is quite widespread), but for a
second there I didn't get that. :-) 56 cents in raleigh... was making
me consider the drive into raleigh there for a bit but then the brain
engaged. :-)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:56:37 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: Ranchero info

John,
You might want to try MAC'S Antique auto parts (716) 433-1500
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.macsautoparts.com/ and
Dennis Carpenters in NC (sorry my catalog is at the house and I'm at
work)



I would also like to find a picture of this '76 Ranchero taken
from the
rear. I can't find any information as to the correct rear badge
and chrome
for the tailgate. Does anyone have a picture or something from
an original
brochure that might show this? There are several possibilities
but know
one I have talked to is certain what is correct for '76.

Hope this helps

John
66 F100, 240-I6
82 LTD, 302AOD
94 Ranger Splash, 4.0L (I hate liters)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:07:20 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: Towing

Tow the Wanna-be and drive the F100

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Koster [SMTP:rumpus1 yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 2:00 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Towing


I have a '92 Isuzu Rodeo and am picking up a '63 F100. The
rodeo,
with a V-6, will allow me to tow up to 5500 lbs (acc. to the
manual).

Should I risk it and just 2-wheel dolly an obviously heavier
Ford
truck behind my Isuzu?

Or, should I tow the Isuzu behind the F100 with it's newly
installed
390? (i'll have put at least 1000 miles on it and made the
adjustments
already)

John
66 F100, 240-I6
82 LTD, 302AOD
94 Ranger Splash, 4.0L (I hate liters)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:25:41 EST
From: BDIJXS
Subject: FE Distributor/Ignition

Hi Sean,

Well, I can add one more to your list, the Mallory Unilite. I bought one of
the Unilite point conversion deals about 6 years ago, and it ran great the
whole time. But, the stock FE distributors (at least the rebuilt ones with
"lifetime" warranties) kept wearing out the top bushing, so I went with a
whole Mallory distributor (with vacuum advance). Whats strange is that the
little ignition unit inside the new distributor went out after a month or so,
but since I still had my old one, I replaced it with that and Mallory sent me
a new one.

Other than that little episode, it has really smoothed the idle out and run
quite a bit better. I always keep a spare Mallory unit with me....just in
case.

I know that the Duraspark units (the box) seem to have a habit of going out as
well...ask any Ford mechanic, they've all replaced a million of these.

Also, while on the topic of spare stuff, for those FE guys....ALWAYS ALWAYS
carry a spare fuel pump with you....for whatever reason, these units have a
propensity for going out....I had my truck towed twice in 20 years, both times
because of fuel pumps. The second time was even with a brand new Holley unit,
so I wasn't prepared! Got to spend the night in Winnemucca, Nevada though!

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:31:17 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Shorter Oil Filters

> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:11:48 -0800
> From: Marv Miller
> Subject: Re: Shorter Oil Filters

> > Apparently shorter oil filters are available to get around this
> > problem, but I don't know what number they are.
>
> PH-43 is a little shorter, PH16 is even more so.

For shame! Fords use MotorCraft filters part# Fl-300A or FL-1A or
Fl-400A for the later ones with small engines like the V-6's.

I used an Fl-300 on my 460 in the van due to space but use the Fl-1
on the PU since I have lots of room. The bronco uses the Fl-1.

Fl-1 and Fl-300 are interchangeable, the 400 is a smaller diameter so
won't fit the same adapter.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:35:20 -0800
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: Ignition Changeover

Okay gang,
I have been reading and replying to the list for a while now and now I
need some help/information. The 240-I6 in my 66 F100 is starting to eat
distributors I have had to replace it twice in the last year Both times
w/rebuilts: bearings shot and loose shaft. Now this engine and vehicle
has been rebuilt by the previous owner and badly abused/ jury-rigged.
What I want to know is there a aftermarket or stock electronic ignition
available for the 240 engine. And 2 what is the difference/ difficulty
of upgrading from a 240 to a 300? Also getting ready to do a frame up
resto and plan on doing the disk brake upgrade off the web/list (thanks
Ken and all).

Sorry about the run-on type of sentences. (Government employee)
Thanks for the information in advance.

John
66 F100, 240-I6
82 LTD, 302AOD
94 Ranger Splash, 4.0L (I hate liters)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:22:46 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Engine Wars - Clear the water

you beat him? nice. i smoked off a mid seventies corvette a while ago in
my dudge v10. it always ran well compared to my 460 C6 77 f150. (never
lined 'em up, but by seat of the pants they were close). the ford took
many muscle cars when it saw use every day. but, i only get about 3 miles
a gallon more with the v10 and overdrive. i think that really is a
testament to the "old" way of making power. all that fuel injection and
overdrive tranny and lockup converter and stuff and it makes 30% less
power, but gets 30% more mpg. no better efficiancy there! ok, i know, the
77 is 1500 lbs lighter, but it has a high stall speed and mudders and a
holley that is not known for mileage, and seems to like full throttle more.

sleddog
- ----------
From: SuperMagot[SMTP:SuperMagot aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 1998 4:47 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: Engine Wars - Clear the water


Old Ford Lover (Trucks and Cars),
Mike

P.S. A good friend of mine just bought a new Dodge Full size with the V-10.
Beautiful truck. If I had $25,000 to throw around, I might buy one too.
But when we raced, my mild 460 stomped him bad. Newer is not necessarily
better, and bigger is not necessarily better. Its all a matter of
perspective. Course, when he told me the gas mileage he got, my smile
faded a
little...:)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:40:49 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 460, guess how much??

maybe that good body needs a home on top of a 4x4 truck chassis with 33" muds and wild 460?

sleddog

- ----------
From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:41 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Cc: bigbroncos unix.off -road. com
Subject: 460, guess how much??

Well, I went shopping for a race car Saturday and found a 70'ish
Torino with no doors but I think I might take it and try to find
doors for it but I bought a car with a 460 in it, 78 Lincoln town car
for.............$64 and drove it home! Sad thing is the body's in
excellent shape but all I want is the engine, tranny and maybe the
rear end. It appears to have drum brakes tho so it wasn't all that
much of a bargain but maybe I can adapt the steering column and
cruise control and use the power brake system which should be a vast
improvement over the bronco's. Just ideas, but most probably won't
pan out. I'll keep all the window motors of course and maybe the
intermitant wipers etc.. Shame about the body though, hate to scrap
a good piece of sheet metal, must be the pack rat in me :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --





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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:37:55 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 351's

with a 2 bolt main block the max is about 8K. beyond that a 4 bolt main is
a good choice. the cast iron crank is good for 6500 according to the co's
that sell steel cranks, but the guy i got my heads from spun his cast iron
crank well pat 9000 for many years, with aluminum rods, with no crank or
bearing related trouble. in fact that crank went thru many broken rods
and similiar things each time being checked, cleaned, etc. and used again.

i intend to turn a cast crank at 7000-7500 this year and 8000 next year.

the main size is good for a big block, even a mild one, but too large a
main in a small block slow the engine down from parasitic
friction-viscosity losses. in a small block the parts are lighter, and do
not need the beefy bottom end of a big block normally. the extra cubes
help offset the larger journal sizes as far as that goes. but, even a
small block can turn the rpms if it has the flow, and capacity to do so
with larger mains. remember, that 9000 rpm big block made over 900 hp and
used something like 4 gallons of fuel just backing off the hauler, on to
the scales, and back into the pits.

sleddog

- ----------
From: sdelanty[SMTP:sdelanty sonic.net]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 1:27 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: 351's


So they are about 3" aren't they? Isn't that about the same
bearing size
as the 460's ?
People spin 460's to pretty high RPM's with not much trouble...
What, 8K? Sleddog? How fast to folks spin 460's?



Steve

Opportunity may knock only once,
but temptation leans on the doorbell.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:41:54 -0600
From: "Arnold Gladwell"
Subject: Oil Problems

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Howdy, this my 1st post.

I have been reading all the e-mail with great interest. And have been =
impressed with the suggestions that y'all have.

Here is my problem:
I have changed oil on many different types of vehicles for many years =
now, and had no problems. But, Sunday morning, I changed the oil on a =
96 Sunfire. Up to this point the vehicle was under a "care package" =
with Pontiac, they changed the oil, etc. After changing the oil and =
filter, and having breathed in the fumes off the oil (which didn't smell =
"right") I got extremely nauseous for about twenty minutes. Does anyone =
have any suggestions to what oil they use (they claim standard oil, no =
name brand). Or had any thing similar happen to them. Any suggestion =
or tips would help.

Thanks

Oh, yes, Gas prices $0.95 unleaded, $ 1.05 Plus, $ 1.15 Premium.

Arnold
79 F250, 400 4x2 Custom Cab
(searching for a good F100, fixer up for my son)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:47:45 -0500
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: Engine Wars - Clear the water

Sleddog wrote:

> you beat him? nice. i smoked off a mid seventies corvette a while ago in
> my dudge v10. it always ran well compared to my 460 C6 77 f150. (never
> lined 'em up, but by seat of the pants they were close). the ford took
> many muscle cars when it saw use every day. but, i only get about 3 miles
> a gallon more with the v10 and overdrive. i think that really is a
> testament to the "old" way of making power. all that fuel injection and
> overdrive tranny and lockup converter and stuff and it makes 30% less
> power, but gets 30% more mpg. no better efficiancy there! ok, i know, the
> 77 is 1500 lbs lighter, but it has a high stall speed and mudders and a
> holley that is not known for mileage, and seems to like full throttle more.

I remember fondly dusting many cars and pretty much all trucks with my
95 Dudge V10. Unfortunately I also dusted my transmission inside of a
year. The V10 is a fine engine and doesn't deserve such a lousy trans.
If it weren't so heavily corked from the factory I am sure there would
be absolutely no comparison to a 460. Sorry guys but that V10 had to be
severely detuned from the factory before being put into the truck. The
V10 in the Viper is even a very mild build for that motor. I'll bet we
see more of the V10 in the future on the hot rod scene once more
aftermarket parts are available to unleash the beast and a suitable
transmission is found to harness all of that power reliably.

Has anyone here had experience with the Ford V10? Comparison to 460?

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:23:34 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Mix n Match

Colorado Jeff:
Your '74 NP435 and the '77 NP205 ahould bolt together OK since got the
adaptor with the NP205. You may have to shorten/lengthen the
driveshafts, and the Dana could possibly carry different output
splines/shafts than the NP, so be prepared to go get the yokes from the
'77. Might also have to relocate the crossmember, but I don't think
so. Not rocket science anyway. You really need to pull the speedo
from the Xfercase and plug the hole in the tranny. This way you'll
have the correct speedo reading whether in Low or High.

Good luck. You just picked up the toughest xfer case made IMHO.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:31:38 -0700
From: Rab Rawlins
Subject: For sale up North

A few more goodies to whet your appetite:

56 Ford 1/2 t. Stepside, exc. body, needs engine. $3500 c.
58 Ford 1/2 t. fleetside $400c
38 Ford p/u $1200
69 Ranchero, good body, mags, $750
61 Merc p/u M100,all org. daily driver, $1500
67 Merc p/u 352, 3 sp. $500
50 Merc 1/2 t. exc. original, needs paint $5000
51 Merc Frame off resto $2400

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:42:16 -0700
From: mmcewen gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (John McEwen)
Subject: RE: Ranchero info

Hello John:

Thanks for the information and for taking the time to provide it.

John McEwen



>John,
> You might want to try MAC'S Antique auto parts (716) 433-1500
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.macsautoparts.com/ and
>Dennis Carpenters in NC (sorry my catalog is at the house and I'm at
>work)
>
>
>
> I would also like to find a picture of this '76 Ranchero taken
>from the
> rear. I can't find any information as to the correct rear badge
>and chrome
> for the tailgate. Does anyone have a picture or something from
>an original
> brochure that might show this? There are several possibilities
>but know
> one I have talked to is certain what is correct for '76.
>
>Hope this helps
>
>John
>66 F100, 240-I6
>82 LTD, 302AOD
>94 Ranger Splash, 4.0L (I hate liters)
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:51:21 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Oiling hole

Marv writes:>> Since it's on the stand, don't forget to open up the
hole where the oil enters the block from the pump to a 1/2 inch hole.
This is a standard rebuild thing, but often overlooked. The factory
sized hole is woefully too small. I believe it's a stock 3/8 inch.
MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE TO GET ALL THE DRILL SHAVINGS OUT!!! Even if it
means disassembling the
entire engine to flush out the galleries. This is best done before the
engine goes to the hot tank in the first place.

Must be an FE. I didn't get the 1st of this thread, but if we're
talking FE here, while you're at it lay an old half shell bearing in #4
main in the block and you will see that the oil hole is half covered up
with the bearing. Scribe the block using the half bearing as a
template and open this hole up, too. I made this a standard practice
long ago, and have never lost a crankshaft in an FE except once, and it
wasn't this. I litterally sucked the oil pan dry (6 quarts) running
down the Interstate WOT in one of my 428SCJ's. Too much clearance
and too hi volume/pressure pump for just a 6 quart pan. Leadfoot
experience, as my Dad used to say.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:06:37 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: Re: IGNITION IGNORAMUS

Chris Hedemark wrote:
>
> >I vote for the ford duraspark. no mater where you are you can always get
> >replacement parts.
>
> Just keep in mind if you go the Duraspark route, always keep a spare module
> under the seat. I went to an MSD on another truck because of the poor
> reliability of the Duraspark modules.
>
> Take note that there are different grades of modules....if you look on the back side of the FORD module, you'll see that it is a very thick clear coating seal. If you look at a no name brand you'll see that it doesn't have much sealer. Just My .02 but it was pointed out to me that these after market tend to heat up and die sooner.

Brian

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:44:01 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: Oil Pressure Problem

>Something wrong here. Me thinks you better look closer at the oil
>pressure gage, tubing, or sending unit if electrical. If your oil pump
>is worn out, or your bearings are worn out, you won't get oil pressure
>sometimes and not others when the engine is at operating temperature.
>Before you open up that bottom end, make sure you've checked out
>everything on top. You may be fixing something that ain't broke.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.

This weekend I checked the guage out. Guess what! I had a hard kink
in it...(I hate when that happens). Since, I have replaced the tube that
feeds the guage and I still have about 20lbs cold idle out of gear,
50lbs cold at 2k RPM, 5lbs cold idle in gear, 10lbs hot idle out of gear,
40lbs hot idle at 2k RPM and 0lbs (least I can't see the change) hot
idle in gear. My idle in gear is at 700 RPM and drops to 500 when in
gear.

Even cold with 20lbs of pressure and I shift in to gear and the RPM
drops(and pressure to 10lbs) It starts ticking right away.

I currently have Main Bearings, new Melling Oil Pump, Rear Main Seal
and a new Fel-Pro Pan Gasket. I will be driving the truck to my Dad's
shop about 2hrs away and will begin. He has a lift and cherry picker
which should make things easier. Any parts missing? I think I have all
the bases covered. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Thanks to everyone on the list that have helped me out and
to Ken especially for making this list possible.

-Ted
'68 Ranger (with an annoying ticking sound)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:18:16 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: 391 manifold

Levi ( http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm )just picked up a '67
crewcab with a 391 industrial. It has an aluminum Edelbrock intake. It
looks awful close to the 429/460 in size. Any chance they are the same?

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:20:14 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: Re: gas prices

Minnestota..87 octane 98...90 octane 98...92 octane 1.07

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:15:55 -0500
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: IGNITION IGNORAMUS

Brian wrote:
>Take note that there are different grades of modules....if you look on the back side of the FORD module, you'll see that it is a very thick clear coating seal. If you look at a no name brand you'll see that it doesn't have much sealer. Just My .02 but it was pointed out to me that these after market tend to heat up and die sooner.


Brian,

I've had just the opposite experience. The OEM module had a lot of this
resin in the back. Other replacement modules from Ford were much the
same. Much of the problem is with the electronics within expanding and
contracting due to heat. This frequent expansion and contraction does
the same thing to the solder joints as temperature changes can do to the
asphalt. When the unit heats up the electronics break away from their
solder joints, but then when it cools down the memory of the leads
brings them back close to their joints and the circuit closes again.
This is why it can confound those who haven't dealt with these modules
before because it doesn't *act* like an electrical problem with the
symptoms seeming to be related to whether the engine is warmed up or....


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