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fordtrucks61-79-digest Sunday, March 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 133



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In this issue:

Re: 460 aftermarket [Kurt Albershardt ]
300 I-6 ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Re: Posting JPG's [Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)]
Towing The Line, Err Truck [pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)]
Re: 300 I-6 [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Re: '71 F350 [sbest ]
Re: Frenched antennas [danadeb pacbell.net]
61 F-100, Better Bed? [Vogt Family ]
Re: '71 F350 [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: French antennas ["Deacon" ]
Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck ["Deacon" ]
In cab fuel tanks [sbest ]
Re: Ranchero Body Panels ["Admiral J.R.E. Mc Kenzie"

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 18:41:14 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: 460 aftermarket

At 01:00 PM 3/7/98 -0500, Chris Hedemark wrote:
>>as for a 500 horse windsor, it would be
>>cheaper to build an equal 460 by far. it still holds true, no substitute
>>for cubic inches!
>
>There is a substitute, but like everything in life "it depends". It depends
>on if the truck is for drag strip duties or daily useage.
>
>Like you said, it is cheaper to build a 460 to make more power. *However*
>the mileage figures I've heard for the 460 are absolutely in the toilet
>compared to a 500HP blown smallblock (which can easily be above 20MPG).

If you really wanna get iconoclastic, try a blown 300 I-6. Ak Miller
swears by them and no V-8 can match the bottom end on that motor.

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:35:57 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: 300 I-6

>If you really wanna get iconoclastic, try a blown 300 I-6. Ak Miller
>swears by them and no V-8 can match the bottom end on that motor.


Amen. I used to have a 79 F150 with the 300 I6 and an 89 Bronco with the
same motor. They don't have much up top but tons of bottom end torque. My
mother in law has a Bronco with a 351W which is a delight on the highway and
handles towing jobs easier, but has no grunt off idle like the 300 I6 did.

I didn't think that anyone actually took these motors seriously though, in
the way of performance. I mean, a blown 300??? That's something you don't
see every day. I can't say I'd want one for myself but I'd certainly
wonder what the power curve looks like on such an animal.

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:03:54 -0500
From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
Subject: Re: Posting JPG's

I think this would be a great idea the jpgs I recieved privately during
my swap were very helpful and since alot of us are new to this we don't
all have the big books and manuals my vote is yes.

Duke's
Fine 69
F-100
302

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:12:14 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: Towing The Line, Err Truck

Hey guys I have a question for you. I am buying another truck (this will
make my fourth). It is a 1964 F350 dually with a six cylinder and no bed.
It is located about a five hour drive away from me in Maryland. Somehow I
have to tow it back to North Carolina. Anybody have an idea of the best
way to do it (i.e. trailer, tow dolly or tow bar?) I will be pulling it
with my bosses 3/4 ton Chebby with a hitch rated at 1,000 tounge and
10,000 towing. I would like to use my truck but right now it is not up to
the task.

Thanks
Jon E. Purut
Pickup65 juno.com
JCPurut worldnet.att.net

1965 F100 SWB Daily Driver
1965 F100 SWB
1977 F150 LWB
1970 Mustang Fastback
1993 Escort Wagon (wifes car)

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 20:19:35 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: 300 I-6

Actually, the bottom end I was referring to is the seven main bearing crank
and its ability to take serious positive pressure.

Now that you mention it, they do kinda remind me of an old Harley on the
torque curve. Guy I used to work with would drop the clutch on his
Sportster in 2nd gear. The motor would seemingly stall, then
thump...thumpa....thumpathumpa...thumpathumpathumpa....purrrr....it would
just take off. The old '72 F250 300 I-6 I drove one summer in college was
kinda the same way. I didn't have much experience on a stickshift, but it
was real forgiving while I got better with my left foot ;>

The gear driven valvetrain is pretty bulletproof, too. Same motor powers
medium duty trucks, concrete pumps, and innumerable tractors, etc.



At 10:35 PM 3/7/98 -0500, Chris Hedemark wrote:
>>If you really wanna get iconoclastic, try a blown 300 I-6. Ak Miller
>>swears by them and no V-8 can match the bottom end on that motor.
>
>
>Amen. I used to have a 79 F150 with the 300 I6 and an 89 Bronco with the
>same motor. They don't have much up top but tons of bottom end torque. My
>mother in law has a Bronco with a 351W which is a delight on the highway and
>handles towing jobs easier, but has no grunt off idle like the 300 I6 did.
>
>I didn't think that anyone actually took these motors seriously though, in
>the way of performance. I mean, a blown 300??? That's something you don't
>see every day. I can't say I'd want one for myself but I'd certainly
>wonder what the power curve looks like on such an animal.

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:22:21 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck

You can go to any U-Haul and rent for a weekend a flatbed trailer. They
have several trailer types. Most will only lift the front of the towed
vehicle but for anything "fragile", definitely spend the extra on the
flatbed trailer. You have to reserve them in advance so they can get the
trailer to your location in time. Whereabouts in North Carolina are you?
We're in Hillsborough.

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jon E Purut
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Saturday, March 07, 1998 11:13 PM
Subject: Towing The Line, Err Truck


>Hey guys I have a question for you. I am buying another truck (this will
>make my fourth). It is a 1964 F350 dually with a six cylinder and no bed.
>It is located about a five hour drive away from me in Maryland. Somehow I
>have to tow it back to North Carolina. Anybody have an idea of the best
>way to do it (i.e. trailer, tow dolly or tow bar?) I will be pulling it
>with my bosses 3/4 ton Chebby with a hitch rated at 1,000 tounge and
>10,000 towing. I would like to use my truck but right now it is not up to
>the task.
>
>Thanks
>Jon E. Purut
>Pickup65 juno.com
>JCPurut worldnet.att.net
>
>1965 F100 SWB Daily Driver
>1965 F100 SWB
>1977 F150 LWB
>1970 Mustang Fastback
>1993 Escort Wagon (wifes car)
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 05:13:59 -0400
From: sbest
Subject: Re: '71 F350

>Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:59:42 -0800
>From: Richard Cherico
>Subject: Re: '71 F350

>Somebody on this list a few months ago put the Edelbrock Performer intake
>on his 390 which he said resulted in much crisper throttle response. I put
>electronic ignition in my 360 which is always a good idea, plus put in an
>RV cam for a little more bottom-end. At the same time, I put on a 4bbl
>intake and a 600cfm Edelbrock carb. I'm rethinking that setup, but it
>works pretty well. Several headers were made which fit FEs in truck
>applications; the manufacturers slip my mind at the moment though.

I installed a stock Ford 4bbl manifold on a friends sluggish (76?) 360
several years ago (that is one heavy intake!). We were disappointed that
it made no difference at all to his weak power output. It has been my
experience (as Richard suggests here) that you have to look at the the
whole picture, intake, cam, compression, and exhaust.

Although I have never tried it on a 360, a 4 degree cam advance on
my mid 70s 250, 302, and 351c engines really picked up bottom end torque.
Dual exhaust and headers have always been my firststep, and never regretted.

Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
6.9 litre diesel Ford van, full-time 4 wheel drive
"Hang on kids, we're going through..."
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 21:17:15 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Frenched antennas

Deacon wrote:

>
> Wish Someone said this earlier, before I started thinking about it and
> almost choked to death on a 76 antenna ball! :)
>

You have to be careful with antennas, you never know where they have been you
might catch VAN-AERIAL disease. ;-)

Dana

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 22:16:07 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: 61 F-100, Better Bed?

I am the proud owner of a '61 F-100 4x4 with a style (or lack thereof)
side long box. The box is trashed and I was looking to put on one I
have from a '71 but found the wheel base is about 8" longer. That being
done, with much cursing and swearing, I went and measured my '66, and
found it has a longer wheel base, too. I am looking to swap for a bed
that is the full width of the cab and has a real tail gate, instead of
that dual-latch, chain thing. I do not want to convert to short box
because I need every inch I can get. Is there any bed that will fit
these criteria, or am I stuck with the first-generation kind?

Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 22:24:43 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: '71 F350

At 05:13 AM 3/7/98 -0400, sbest wrote:
>4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest

This is a pretty cool site, guys. Have a look when you get a chance...

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:33:54 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: French antennas

>Thanks, Deacon, I needed that today!..............
>
>Lee

I feel lucky the original post was for the antenna and not French
taillights. Who knows the damage I could have done. :)


Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
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http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:43:59 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Towing The Line, Err Truck

If it's not currently registered, you may need the put it on a
trailer. I have seen people remove the outer wheel on a dually so it
will fit an a trailer.
Good luck. My next door neighbor has one around the same year with a
flatbed.


Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 07:43:07 -0400
From: sbest
Subject: In cab fuel tanks

While looking at this site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.autosafetyexpert.com
belonging to Byron Bloch, I came across this:


COURT-QUALIFIED as an AUTO SAFETY EXPERT

For more than 20 years, 1971 through 1995, 1 have repeatedly qualified in
Federal
and State Courts across the nation as an independent "Auto Safety Expert" in
motor
vehicle "defective design" cases. The central focus is the allegation that the
accident vehicle was needlessly unsafe and defectively designed, and thereby
either
caused the accident, or caused the severity of injuries to the vehicle's
driver or
passengers. Such cases include:

Bratton vs. Chrysler, 1971, Texas... on occupant movements and forces
(kinematics) during the rear-impact collision.

Biehle vs. Ford, 1974, California... on the design of pickup trucks with the
inside-the-cab fuel tank and protruding filler tube.


Isn't this about the time we stopped seeing in cab fueltanks?

Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
6.9 litre diesel Ford van, full-time 4 wheel drive
"Hang on kids, we're going through..."
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 02:45:53 -0800
From: "Admiral J.R.E. Mc Kenzie"
Subject: Re: Ranchero Body Panels

Dear John:

Hello and allow me to introduce myself, I'm John Mc Kenzie ( located
in Burnaby BC )... I'm also a Ranchero owner ( 1975 GT 500 ).

Sheet metal well dear John, perhaps I can offer you some assistance.
Actually I've located a sourse which is reliable! Please e mail me directly
at Fugitive Intergate.bc.ca and I'll forward you additional information.

Yours Truly

Admiral John Mc Kenzie
Owner of " The El Ranchero "

At 11:46 AM 3/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone:
>
>I am a new member to the list but am quite active on a number of others. I
>have a '76 Ranchero 500 which is a low mileage original but needs new
>sheetmetal around the rear wheel openings. Does anyone have anything or
>any leads to new or good used metal? I also need the correct badge/chrome
>molding for the tailgate - mine is blank. Any leads would be deeply
>appreciated.
>
>John McEwen....


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