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fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, March 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 127



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In this issue:

Re: Insurance Fraud (was Gas Filler) ["Deacon" ]
Re: VIN # and fan shrouds [George Herpich ]
Re: hot 300 I6 [Gardner ]
Re: Insurance Fraud (was Gas Filler) ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
292/352 swap [am14 chrysler.com]
VIN location on frame [am14 chrysler.com]
Flywheel weight [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: VIN location on frame [Stu Varner ]
Clearance [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Brake Lock ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
brake lock unit [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: 100mph rollover in '67 F100 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: disk brake conversion again [Ken Payne ]
Weight of 292/352 [am14 chrysler.com]
Airborne? [am14 chrysler.com]
RE:Rattling Rocker Arms [tfmf211 murphyfarms.com]
Re: Rattling Rocker Arms [DGholsM ]
Rear brake disc conversion [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Clearance ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law [james oxley ]
Re: electronic ignition [DGholsM ]
Re: electronic ignition [DGholsM ]
Re: Rear disk brakes this time [Don Grossman ]
Re: Airborne? ["Michael Redden" ]
Tips, tricks, and how-tos ["Harry Jennings" ]
RE:Rattling Rocker Arms ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: electronic ignition ["Tero Saarelainen" ]
Re: Rear brake disc conversion [Don Grossman ]
Re: electronic ignition [Dennis Pearson ]
STRONG 360 [DGholsM ]
Re: VIN location on frame [Dennis Pearson ]

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:39:10 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Insurance Fraud (was Gas Filler)

>From Dana
>lets see, I need a new right front fender and a hood. If we hit each
other so it
>would not be more then 50% my fault each of our insurance company's
would fix
>our trucks for us.!!!!!

Sorry, Item 5 in my Lefty Louie Lamont Auto Insurance that only makes
you legal Policy states

If your in an accident it better not be your fault cuz we don't pay
squat!

>JUST A JOKE!!! I WOULD NEVER DO IT FOR REAL, SCOUT'S HONOR!!

Ya, but only because you knew about me having Lefty Louie Lamont Auto
Insurance that only makes you legal! That's what I was talkin bout
Brother! You level of honesty is in direct proportion to what's in it
for you! :)

I've had this problem lately with people believing me when I think
it's obvious I'm joking so I think it's fitting I also put a disclaimer
here. IT"S A JOKE! Give me a brake. Dana and I don't discuss publicly
illegal stuff we're doing. :)
I have a pretty shady history so I hope your reputation doesn't get
tarnished Dana, God only knows it can hurt mine! I think it would be
easier to ruin my credit than it would my reputation and I need to show
three forms of ID to pay cash! :)

On to the real stuff. Any junkyard junkies in So Cal, could you do
me a favor and keep an eye out for a '77 or not much newer bed. My truck
has a 133" wheel base. Anyone know what my options are in beds for a
truck with a 133" wheel base? Do we have any So. Cal. Auto Body people
on the list who could help out a fellow American who's down on his luck.
I'm interest in any input on this, so feel free to let your opinions
fly! I like Tom Hogan's suggestion. I put some new 15X8 modular aluminum
wheels and a set of LT245/70R15's on it to go with my new springs. Today
I carried just over 2,000 lbs to North Hollywood (I don't know, about 40
to 50 miles) with no problems. I'm going to check into an anti-sway bar,
I thing Gary was the one talking about it. So now my truck is no longer
a whuss. A bed and paint to go with the wheels and tires, it won't be
butt ugly anymore either!
Later!


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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 06:42:11 -0500
From: George Herpich
Subject: Re: VIN # and fan shrouds

Stu Varner wrote:
>
> At 09:05 AM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >STU, when you are looking for the VIN on the right frame rail you might
> >have to scrape the paint and/or gunk off of the rail. When I registered
> >my 66 F100 here in CA DMV handed me a wire brush to scrape the junk off
> >my frame rail and I found the VIN just forward of the motor mount
> >John
> >66 F100, 94 Ranger Splash
> >John,
> Thanks! I will look there tonight.
>
> BTW- I wanted to mention to all 68-79 model guys, you can still purchase new
> fan shroud assemblies from Obsoloete Ford on Oklahoma (NOT AFFILIATED, they
> are just the only supplier for this part) I got mine in the mail yesterday,
> finally after months of waiting, $89.96. It is not as "finished" as the
> factory one but it is an exact match with FORD casting impressions and part
> numbers stamped in just like the original. I guess the really strange thing
> was that the box was a Real FORD parts box with a REAL
> Ford part number. I guess Ford is still making this stuff. I ordered it
> on Novemeber 4th, 1997.......go figure!

There is no set number of years that Ford continues to make or stock
parts. It
goes by how popular an item is. When they stop selling they stop
stocking.
When it comes to trucks they tend to stock a lot more stuff. People keep
trucks
running longer.
I would advise everyone to first try your local Ford dealer. You'd be
surprised
to find out how many parts are still available. Try to find a parts man
with like interests and don't be a pest. If possible make a list and
leave it with him to look
up when he's not too busy. These old trucks are'nt on the computer, he
has to drag
out the old micro film. Unless they're a large dealer they probably
going to have to
order it but that is usually only a day to a week wait with no s&h
charge.
I know this is old news to you old timers but may help some new guys.

George

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:45:23 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: hot 300 I6

Eric Strom wrote:
>
> Bruce..
> I am not sure about a "hot" 300 for towing, but as far as just making one
> HOT..
> 1st... Offenhauser makes a really good 4bbl intake and header.
> and 2nd... Balance the hell out of it!!!!
> I saw a 300 that must have run 7000 rpm and absolutly smoked a 4v 351 C
> but that was in a car...so i have no idea about torque curves with the
> modifications...but it is definitly possible to make them go,and go fast!
>
> Berne
> strome ucs.orst.edu
>
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JCWhitney sells the Offenhauser 4 bbl intake and holley carb and linkage
Hope this helps
Chris

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:58:31 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Insurance Fraud (was Gas Filler)

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: Insurance Fraud (was Gas Filler)
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:39:10 -0800

> check into an anti-sway bar, I thing Gary was the one talking about
> it. So now my truck is no longer a whuss. A bed and paint to go with
> the wheels and tires, it won't be butt ugly anymore either! Later!

Anti-sway bars will help even more loaded than empty but help all
the time really. Biggest thing they do is keep the truck from
getting into a body roll contest when loaded or under heavy braking
and in turns. If you have good shocks and suspension they are less
necessary but I like them on my bronco for sure, it handles like a
Ferrari in turns. The only place they are out of place is off road
on really rough terrain where they limit articulation. On the road
you don't need articulation :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:12:19 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: 292/352 swap

Marko: The two engine families share nothing except the length from
the motor mounting holes to the rear of the block, and the heighth of
the motor mounting holes on the blocks. I'm almost positive these are
the same, therefore a "bolt in". If you have an empty stall where a Y
block once sat, and a 352 with bellhousing etc, it won't take up much
time to give it a try. Seems like special hoses for radiator and
something to do with one side of the exhaust was all we had to do to
make a similar conversion, but you got to remember This was back in the
early 60's, and we all know my memory isn't that good.

Let us know if you try it and how it turns out.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:38:44 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: VIN location on frame

Stu writes: >>where on the Frame is the vin located on a 71 ?????? I
was unaware they put the VIN on the frame. Is this a stoopid
question????

No question is stupid!!!. I thought you were a teacher????

Almost directly under where the passengers feet would be, and directly
on the top of the frame. Mine is stamped from the rear toward the front.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:48:49 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Flywheel weight

Jeff writes: >> A solid steel unit is going
to be heavier than the cast unit obviously, but I wonder why McLeod
would make it so much heavier than stock?

Any ideas????

Not really. Back when I was a Kid, dirt track racing was really big in
the part of the country
I grew up in. Chevy's 6 from the larger trucks was the popular engine
of the day and all of
them ran light flywheels. It helped the RPMs to come up very quickly
(less mass). but the light
flywheels didn't work in the trucks because they needed the mass for
momentum. The trucks
didn't care about getting RPMs quickly, but wanted to retain it once it
was reached.

Hope this helps.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:56:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: VIN location on frame

At 08:38 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Stu writes: >>where on the Frame is the vin located on a 71 ?????? I
>was unaware they put the VIN on the frame. Is this a stoopid
>question????
>
>No question is stupid!!!. I thought you were a teacher????
>

Oh yes I am an educator, but Azie, my friend, When I am in the role of a
student, I tend to have the student's mentality. I have always been of the
belief that there are no stupid questions and I preach this to my kids at
school.........
I used to think I knew alot about 67-72 F-100's.......The longer I am on the
list, the more I learn! I have realized, on a daily basis, I am really a
3rd grader when it comes to older Ford trucks. Learning fast though.
Nothing like a frame off resto get baptized in fire really good!
What a refreshing thing to do! I am like a pig in mud!

>Almost directly under where the passengers feet would be, and directly
>on the top of the frame. Mine is stamped from the rear toward the front.
>
I haven't had time to get out to the shop to look. Two sick babies and I
have the sniffles too! I hope to be well by the weekend so I can get back
to work on the truck.
Thanks Azie!

STU
Nuke GM!

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:01:47 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Clearance

Sleddog writes: >>.012" clearance would be really bad. .012" is for
high performance drag cars with forged pistons. .008 is usually the
high limit for street forged pistons and stock pistons are usually
around .006"

What are the normal run of the mill pistons from the factory in a
normal engine (390 428 460 351w 400m)???? Are they cast or forged
aluminum??? Also I know what cast means, but I'm not to sure I know
what forged means. Anyone want to explain it to me.
PS. Forge, as in blacksmith, I grew up with. I hardly think this
applys to forged pistons.

Just for the record, I ran .0075 clearances on my race 428's and had
very good luck. It was a bit loose for the street though.
Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:13:38 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Brake Lock

> From: "Dave Walbeck"
> Subject: Brake Lock
> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:24:18 PST

> (Sorry no Phone # or Zip). It is meant to be used in conjunction
> with the parking brake. And it says "only for use with operator in
> attendance" Hope this helps. Dave Complete and Total FORDNUT,

This was my take on it too, it's not intended to hold the vehicle
indefinately so should not be relied upon to act as a parking brake
for long periods but might be a good antitheft device and handy for
winching etc.. It's sort of like walking around under a load hanging
from a chain..............maybe it will hold, maybe not :-) Might
hold for 20 years but if it doesn't, someone dies so is it worth it
to rely on it? Not in my book, not by itself anyway.

For winching if you set the mechanical brake AND the hydraulic brake
you still have a back up in case the hydraulic bleeds down.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:29:31 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: brake lock unit

Mike writes: >>Your unit was most likely a Mico unit. I don't know if
they're still manufactured or not, but I do know that they were
popular years ago.

Thanks mike. I kmow only one thing about it. It works - and I like
it. I would consider another one for some of my other vehicles, if I
could locate one.

Anyone out there in FOMOCO land know where I can purchase a new one.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:31:25 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 100mph rollover in '67 F100

> From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
> Subject: Re: 100mph rollover in '67 F100
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:36:55 -0600

> After seeing this truck I can't imagine that anyone could survive a
> 100mph rollover! That must have been one wild ride!

I once spun out at 96 mph on I75 near Bowling Green, OH and stayed on
the road. You scrub off speed fairly quickly so that when you
actually start rolling you aren't going 100 mph but it's still fast
enough. I spun 4 times and stopped going backward to the traffic
which was nowhere in sight luckily and broke 8 spokes in my wire
wheels in the process but didn't blow a tire or roll. I wouldn't be
here if it had rolled since it was a rag top.

Sure makes you think about that roll cage you always wanted don't
it?

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:33:40 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: disk brake conversion again

At 11:55 PM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I have one more question concerning the disk brake conversion. Ken says
>that you should keep the kingpins from the donor truck, but then states
>that if you want your truck handling "like new" that you should get a
>kingpin set for a '67-'72, which would obviously not be the donor truck.
>Which should I go with? And is it likely that I will need an oversize set?
> My local Parts America wants $46.99 for a kingpin set for a '68, plus
>$53.99 for a set of brass bushings. Or was it $54 for the oversize set? I
>forget. Anyway, the point remains: which year kingpin to use. Any help
>is appreciated.
>bigric mail.utexas.edu, bigric tamu.edu
>'68 F100 Custom Cab Stepside 360 4bbl

Did you see my reply yesterday?

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:34:05 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Weight of 292/352

Marco writes: >>Also, how much does a Y block weigh in comparison to
the "feathery" 352?

Probably not a whole lot of difference, but I don't know this. The 292
and the 352 both have the extended lower portions of the block (the
crank is fully in the block - not sitting 1/2 in the block). My guess
is that the 352 weighs maybe 50# more than the 292, and most of that is
due to the massave intake on the FE.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:41:23 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Airborne?

Mike Redden writes:

I know this wasn't written to me nor about what I am about to say, but
I just have to say it:

Only 8 years. 1954 to 1962. 11th Abn Div at Ft Campbell, Ky. and
Germany, and 82nd Abn Div at Ft Bragg, NC


Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 9:58:12 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: RE:Rattling Rocker Arms

Thanks Steve,Marko,George, Azie,Gary, Mike, DC and anyone
else I may have missed.

I am going to pick up a mechanical guage today to check my
oil pressure. From what I understand it should be between
40 and 50 lbs, right? If it's less than that, I'll need to change the
oil pump?

I'll install the guage this weekend (I hope, looks like rain) and
let you know what it says.

I've looked at the pan on my 360 and it is very close to the chasis
crossmember. To drop the pan to get to the oil pump, will I need
to lift the motor, or will the pan slide out from underneath?

-Ted

>First, get a gauge and see what pressure you have at idle. I think your
>problem is
>low press causing one or more lifter to collapse.
>I have had this happen with old engines that haven't had regular oil
>changes after changing the oil. You can try straight 40w but it would be
>best to do as Marko said and replace the oil pump.

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:21:31 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: Re: Rattling Rocker Arms

Hey RRA ,
Don't be so bummed out because it's a 360. I bought a 71 F350 that the
owner said had sat in his back yard for 8 years because after putting a timing
chain in he could not get it to start. Needless to say all it needed was a
coil and after about 5 minutes of ticking all I can hear is the RUMBLE coming
from my dual CHERRY BOMBS. So my guess would be the oil pump pressure also.


DMG

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:23:43 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Rear brake disc conversion

Don G. writes:>> I am looking at doing a disk brake conversion on the
rear this time.

Don is this the 63 F100 you are looking into doing??? It has a FOMOCO
9" right??? Lincolns of the '69 and later had Disc as an option, and I
think maybe standard on the Mark series.
Couldn't you adapt one of these???

Azie

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:37 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Clearance

> From: am14 chrysler.com
> Subject: Clearance
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:01:47 -0500

> What are the normal run of the mill pistons from the factory in a
> normal engine (390 428 460 351w 400m)???? Are they cast or forged
> aluminum??? Also I know what cast means, but I'm not to sure I know
> what forged means. Anyone want to explain it to me. PS. Forge, as
> in blacksmith, I grew up with. I hardly think this applys to forged
> pistons.

Forging basically means smashing into a form. It's a forming
operation, usually with hot metal but not always using heavy tonnage
to compress the molecules of the metal into a denser, tougher
material with no voids so the material is both stronger and more
uniform and has more uniform expansion and weight properties etc..

Objects can be cast first and then shaped in the forging process into
the final shape and size or headed (or pressed) from a wire or billet
but I don't think they do pistons that way, I think they are cast
first.

Because of the denser material the forged pistons have a higher
coefficient of linear expansion which means you need more clearance
to make them fit right once warmed up.

To expand on that, higher revving engines for racing are abused and
have a much higher cylinder temp than street engines so there is more
expansion and more clearance needs to be built in.

The denser material is stronger but requires more clearance so is a
mixed blessing for street applications. Cast pistons are good enough
for street and truck applications where compression is moderate and
heavy revving won't be a normal part of it's life. The Hypereutectic
(high silicone, but still cast) pistons are better for this and
overlap into medium severity usage with better strength to weight
ratio than plain cast and allow better clearance for longer lasting
engines but forged are required where abuse is the norm or high
cylinder temps will be reached such as in racing.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:41:03 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law

Hey all

Seems I was slightly wrong in my last posting. It's much worse than I
thought. My original posting on resrictions of lifted trucks was the
original proposal and has since been modified. See below.

Just wanted to pass along some info. Last fall Colorado had a bill
introduced (SB-34) that would make it illegal to change any suspension
component including wheels/tires, ect... This bill was later amended
with help from the offroad commumity to basically apply to lifted trucks
and was finally killed completely by the work of truck enthusiast/offroad
clubs in Colorado.

In NJ, the laws governing lifting trucks is written into what is
called the "Administraive Code". This basically means a bill/law/vote is
not needed to change any part of this code. Well, a change was written to
further restrict lifted trucks. This change escalated into the current
wording that restricts suspension changes to +/- 1 inch. Thats right, +/-
ONE inch. It also supposedly has wording for retrictions on aftermarket
lighting (and even grill guards, nerf bars ect....) I wish I knew more,
but since no actual bill is proposed (it's not needed to change the law),
it's not something that can be looked up.

Richard Kamin (NJ Director of Motor Vehicles) is taking comments until
June 4, 1998. If you ever had a thought about future suspension mods, you
may want to write a letter to Kamin expressing your dissatisfaction.
Being that the state bird of NJ is the Ostrich :-), it seems the
organization that Colorado had to defeat their bill does not exist in NJ.

Sorry to bother the other 49 (although you may be next)

OX

PS, if you belong to another automotive mailing list (even the Ch*bbie
lists), please pass this info along. It's not make specific.

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:41:52 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: Re: electronic ignition

I saw an ad for these in

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:44:03 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: Re: electronic ignition

I saw an ad for electronic ignition coversions just for FORDs inAuto Krafters
magazine theirs web site is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://WWW.auto krafters. com


dmg

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:52:05 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Rear disk brakes this time

danadeb pacbell.net wrote:

> Are you talking for a full floating dana 60 rear?
>
> Dana

Yep.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and on board air.

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:12:25 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Airborne?

Azie:

That's along time to be airborne.

*I hope you had a chance to own, or drive, a Ford truck during that time!


*Ford truck Content

MikeR

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:55:30 CST
From: "Harry Jennings"
Subject: Tips, tricks, and how-tos

Hello All,

I am working on a tips, tricks and how-to section for my web site. If
you have anything you would like th share please let me know. If it is a
bigger tech article (such as how to upgrade to electronic ignition) I
will credit the person for it. The smaller tips will be general things
such as "the best way to free a stuck bolt" or "what to do if you break
off a head bolt." These will be short and in a long list. With the short
tips I would just put something at the bottom of the list that says it
came from the guys at the Ford Truck List or something like that.

Thanks,

Harry.

Visit me at
HREF="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3271/index.html">my new
web page.


______________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:23 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE:Rattling Rocker Arms

> From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 9:58:12 +0000
> Subject: RE:Rattling Rocker Arms

> I am going to pick up a mechanical guage today to check my
> oil pressure. From what I understand it should be between
> 40 and 50 lbs, right? If it's less than that, I'll need to change
> the oil pump?

Not at idle on an older engine.......maybe 20 or so at idle. I'd be
happy to have 20 at idle on an engine with over 100k miles on it,
especially a 335 series engine. Much lower though and you may start
heareing some knocking. Not really sure where it starts to knock but
20 at idle and 40 - 50 at cruise is plenty to keep it out of trouble
for sure.

The two engines I've had knock at idle so far didn't show signs of
knocking till the needle was ar rest on the oil press gauge. Still
don't really know what the pressure was but I'm guessing real close
to zero so any pressure at idle and 40 - 50 at cruise is probably
safe but if it's close to zero at idle the bearings are definitely
very near death.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:07:25 +0200
From: "Tero Saarelainen"
Subject: Re: electronic ignition

There is company called Flat-o-products Inc. and they should sell a
conversion kit to install C4 to Y-block. So I have heard. Their phone
number is (503) 364-6194.

I hope this helps.

Tero Saarelainen
Finland
teros dlc.fi
'61 & '62 F-100 Unibody
'52 Mercury
'36 Ford Pickup

- ----------
> From: Kevin Leone
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: electronic ignition
> Date: 5. March 1998 1:28
>
>
> Hellow there guys. I've been sitten back and finally found someting to
> respond to. I own a 63 f-100 stakebed with a 292 that I have warmed
> over.(ported heads, bigger valves, Isky cam, t-bird intake, 4-v autolite
> carb, and home-made headers) Anyway, I've been looking for a way to
> upgrade to electronic ignition, but haven't had any luck thus far. If
> you fellas figure out where I could get some sort of "kit" It would be
> of much help.
> Also, My truck still has the originall,(YUCK!) cruiso-o-matic 3speed
> automatic in it. I am in desperate need of any helpful info. on whether
> or not I am going to be able to put a c-4 or something equivelant behind
> my Y block and still retain the original engine/tranny mount setup. The
> truck has a dana 44 with 3.73's.
> Thanks!
> Kevin Leone
> 63 F-100
> Y ask Y,
> Y-blocks never die!!

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:15:02 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Rear brake disc conversion

am14 chrysler.com wrote:

> Don G. writes:>> I am looking at doing a disk brake conversion on the
> rear this time.
>
> Don is this the 63 F100 you are looking into doing??? It has a FOMOCO
> 9" right??? Lincolns of the '69 and later had Disc as an option, and I
> think maybe standard on the Mark series.
> Couldn't you adapt one of these???
>
> Azie

Normally yes. But when you swap out the 9" for a Dana 60 not anymore. I
think that the only thing left that is F-100 is the cab and the frame. ;)




- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and on board air.

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:00:47 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: electronic ignition

Thanks for your message at 06:07 PM 3/5/98 +0200, Tero Saarelainen. Your
message was:
>There is company called Flat-o-products Inc. and they should sell a
>conversion kit to install C4 to Y-block. So I have heard. Their phone
>number is (503) 364-6194.
>
>> Also, My truck still has the originall,(YUCK!) cruiso-o-matic 3speed
>> automatic in it. I am in desperate need of any helpful info. on whether
>> or not I am going to be able to put a c-4 or something equivelant behind
>>

OK. We all have "ignorant hot spots" or some such thing. Maybe mine is
just a soft place in my heart (and maybe my head) for the old
Cruise-o-matic. Is the C4 really better? Maybe I could get some comments
on the relative weaknesses of the Cruise-o-matic vs the C4.

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:01:14 EST
From: DGholsM
Subject: STRONG 360

I HAVE A 1971 F350 W/360 AND A NEW PROCESS 4 SPEED TRANNY IT HAS A DUALLY
REAR -END WITH AFTER MARKET SINGLE WHEELS. i NEED TO KNOW IF I CAN SAFELY
PUT SINLE WHEELS ON IT LIKE THE NEWER F-250&350 HAVE TO MATCH THE FRONT WHEELS
AND WHAT CAN I DO TO LOWER THE REAR -END. AND ALSO CNA I PUT A FLEET-SIDE BED
ONTO IT INSTEAD OF A STEP-SIDE. THIS IS THE SAME TRUCK I PURCHASED FOR $400....


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