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fordtrucks61-79-digest Wednesday, December 31 1997 Volume 01 : Number 406



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In this issue:

69 F-100 VIN [BDWorman ]
69 F100 VIN [BDWorman ]
re: 63 custom cab [A66f100 ]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: 292 V8 [Jesus Cardoso ]
Re: 292 V8 ["Ron" ]
Re: 63 custom cab ["JAMES MERLO" ]
Re: 292 V8 ["JAMES MERLO" ]
Re: 69 F-100 VIN [Barry Price ]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion []
Re: 9" Disc Conversion []
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [Don Grossman ]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [danadeb pacbell.net]
carb advice, blue ovals [marko ]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [Kurt Albershardt ]
ADMIN: Request for articles [Ken Payne ]
Re: carb advice, blue ovals [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion ["Deacon" ]
Re: carb advice, blue ovals []
Re: 9" Disc Conversion []
Re: 9" Disc Conversion [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 9" Disc Conversion ["Deacon" ]

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:34:09 EST
From: BDWorman
Subject: 69 F-100 VIN

Hi,

I am curious what year truck I have. The title and paper work states
it is a 69, but I was loking at the owners manual. The owners manual is for a
68 ,a nd the orignal sell date listed for the truck on the inside flap is June
20, 1968.

I was hoping that someone could tell me what it is by the VIN, which
is F10YCD82653.

Thanks in advance,
Brian Worman
Hurst, Texas

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:40:00 EST
From: BDWorman
Subject: 69 F100 VIN

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could tell by VIN what year my truck is. The
title says it is a 69, but the owners manual is for a 68 and it has an
original puchase date of June 20, 1968.

Thank you in advance,
Brian

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:58:03 EST
From: A66f100
Subject: re: 63 custom cab

Thanks for the responses on this truck. Heard it run yesterday, sounded good.
Did not have time to drive it. Anyone have any experience with 292V8s i.e.
reliability, parts availability, etc.? Thanks. Mike B.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 07:12:21 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

O.K. your right!

Lets see:

First I'll switch out the engine!
Then the trans will have to go!!
Then the drive line!!!
Then the wheels!!!!
Then the steering!!!!!
Them the frame!!!!!!
Then the ( what the heck ) I'll switch the cab!!!!!!!
Then the bed!!!!!!!
Then the front fenders!!!!!!!!
Then it will be all chevy!!!!!!!!!!
Then we could change the list name to "chevy truck" list!!!!!!!!!
( BIG, THICK, flame suit on now!!!!!!!!!!!!! )



On a serious note, put in what fits, but stay as loyal as you can!

Dana

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:58:30 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

- ----------
> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 7:12 AM
>
> O.K. your right!
>
> Lets see:
>
> First I'll switch out the engine!
> Then the trans will have to go!!
> Then the drive line!!!
> Then the wheels!!!!
> Then the steering!!!!!
> Them the frame!!!!!!
> Then the ( what the heck ) I'll switch the cab!!!!!!!
> Then the bed!!!!!!!
> Then the front fenders!!!!!!!!
> Then it will be all chevy!!!!!!!!!!
> Then we could change the list name to "chevy truck" list!!!!!!!!!
> ( BIG, THICK, flame suit on now!!!!!!!!!!!!! )
>
>
>
> On a serious note, put in what fits, but stay as loyal as you can!
>
> Dana

Sheesh! I can almost see your consternation if someone was talking about
putting a corporate rear end in a Ford, I mean that would have been made by
GM. But to say that a set of rotors is not staying "loyal" is a little bit
over the top...OK a lot over the top. GM doesn't make rotors and neither
does Ford. OEMs make the majority of parts for the big 3. Some of them are
even ....GASP...imported! As long as the truck has a blue oval on the front
who really cares what the guts look like?

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 13:14:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Jesus Cardoso
Subject: Re: 292 V8

Hey Ya'll,

I just picked up my truck (63 F100) from the mechanic....I had my
292 rebuilt. It seems that the valves are louder now than before the
rebuilt. Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them? Did they get
quiter once the engine was broken in?

Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy
Graduate Research Assistant (Power System Automation Lab)
Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-3128
w: 409-845-4623, h: 409-775-0737, fax: 845-6259
Personal Address: P.O. Box 2214, College Station, TX 77841-2214
e-mail: cardoso ee.tamu.edu, url: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ee.tamu.edu/~cardoso

Keep in mind the following:
- Minds are like parachutes, they only work when there are open.
- Todos en el mundo sonreimos en la misma lengua.
"All of us in the world smile in the same language."



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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:43:48 -0500
From: "Ron"
Subject: Re: 292 V8

Right Tom,
The 239 was one of the first overhead valve design that Ford produced, I
think! It was (this design) one of the toughest engine I ever ran across.

North Carolina Ridge Runner Ron

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:18:07 -0600
From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: Re: 63 custom cab

I have bought the following at NAPA or Autozone:waterpump, fuel pump, coil,
points, rotor, belts, lower radiator hose (flexible was the only available
- - note that water pump and radiator have different diameters), head gasket
set, oil pressure sending unit, freeze plugs, spark plug wires. Complete
rebuild parts are available from Kanter (sp?). Much more of a challenge
was to find a replacement for a cracked head. This was all for a 62 292.

- ----------
> From: A66f100
> To: fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net
> Subject: re: 63 custom cab
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 8:58 AM
>
> Thanks for the responses on this truck. Heard it run yesterday, sounded
good.
> Did not have time to drive it. Anyone have any experience with 292V8s
i.e.
> reliability, parts availability, etc.? Thanks. Mike B.
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:22:58 -0600
From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: Re: 292 V8

Mine quieted down a lot when I made sure the engine was truly "hot" when I
did the adjustment. The cold adjustment on these solid lifters got it
going OK, but the hot adjustment got rid of much noise.

- ----------
> From: Jesus Cardoso
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: 292 V8
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 1:14 PM
>
> Hey Ya'll,
>
> I just picked up my truck (63 F100) from the mechanic....I had my
> 292 rebuilt. It seems that the valves are louder now than before the
> rebuilt. Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them? Did they
get
> quiter once the engine was broken in?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy
> Graduate Research Assistant (Power System Automation Lab)
> Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
> College Station, TX 77843-3128
> w: 409-845-4623, h: 409-775-0737, fax: 845-6259
> Personal Address: P.O. Box 2214, College Station, TX 77841-2214
> e-mail: cardoso ee.tamu.edu, url: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ee.tamu.edu/~cardoso
>
> Keep in mind the following:
> - Minds are like parachutes, they only work when there are open.
> - Todos en el mundo sonreimos en la misma lengua.
> "All of us in the world smile in the same language."
>
>


>
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:58:14 -0500
From: Barry Price
Subject: Re: 69 F-100 VIN

Based on your VIN number it is a 1969 with the following options:
It should have a 360 V8,
Built in either Chester, PA or Ontario Canada.
And unless I'm reading the codes wrong it was built in August of 1998 and it
appears to be a Bronco.
Maybe someone else can verify my interpretation of the codes????

BDWorman wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am curious what year truck I have. The title and paper work states
> it is a 69, but I was loking at the owners manual. The owners manual is for a
> 68 ,a nd the orignal sell date listed for the truck on the inside flap is June
> 20, 1968.
>
> I was hoping that someone could tell me what it is by the VIN, which
> is F10YCD82653.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Brian Worman
> Hurst, Texas
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:41:37 -0800
From:
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

danadeb pacbell.net wrote:

> O.K. your right!
>
> Lets see:
>
> First I'll switch out the engine!
> Then the trans will have to go!!
> Then the drive line!!!
> Then the wheels!!!!
> Then the steering!!!!!
> Them the frame!!!!!!
> Then the ( what the heck ) I'll switch the cab!!!!!!!
> Then the bed!!!!!!!
> Then the front fenders!!!!!!!!
> Then it will be all chevy!!!!!!!!!!
> Then we could change the list name to "chevy truck" list!!!!!!!!!
> ( BIG, THICK, flame suit on now!!!!!!!!!!!!! )
>
> On a serious note, put in what fits, but stay as loyal as you can!
>
> Dana
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
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> | List removal information is on the web site. |
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I'm with ya! sure its a pain to dig out the FoMoCo parts that will work,
especially when the industry is so pointed at the bow tie crowd, but there
is a lot of pride in knowing that my truck is as Ford as it can be. Sure I
could take the easy way out but if I had wanted to do that, I would have
bought brand X to begin with.

Rick Brewster
"Diamonds are forever and those old Fords, they just keep movin on"

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:42:41 -0800
From:
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

Bill Beyer wrote:

> ----------
> > From: danadeb pacbell.net
> > To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> > Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion
> > Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 7:12 AM
> >
> > O.K. your right!
> >
> > Lets see:
> >
> > First I'll switch out the engine!
> > Then the trans will have to go!!
> > Then the drive line!!!
> > Then the wheels!!!!
> > Then the steering!!!!!
> > Them the frame!!!!!!
> > Then the ( what the heck ) I'll switch the cab!!!!!!!
> > Then the bed!!!!!!!
> > Then the front fenders!!!!!!!!
> > Then it will be all chevy!!!!!!!!!!
> > Then we could change the list name to "chevy truck" list!!!!!!!!!
> > ( BIG, THICK, flame suit on now!!!!!!!!!!!!! )
> >
> >
> >
> > On a serious note, put in what fits, but stay as loyal as you can!
> >
> > Dana
>
> Sheesh! I can almost see your consternation if someone was talking about
> putting a corporate rear end in a Ford, I mean that would have been made by
> GM. But to say that a set of rotors is not staying "loyal" is a little bit
> over the top...OK a lot over the top. GM doesn't make rotors and neither
> does Ford. OEMs make the majority of parts for the big 3. Some of them are
> even ....GASP...imported! As long as the truck has a blue oval on the front
> who really cares what the guts look like?
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
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I do!!

Rick Brewster
another "over the top" Ford owner

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:10:24 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

Bill Beyer wrote:

> Sheesh! I can almost see your consternation if someone was talking about
> putting a corporate rear end in a Ford, I mean that would have been made by
> GM. But to say that a set of rotors is not staying "loyal" is a little bit
> over the top...OK a lot over the top. GM doesn't make rotors and neither
> does Ford. OEMs make the majority of parts for the big 3. Some of them are
> even ....GASP...imported! As long as the truck has a blue oval on the front
> who really cares what the guts look like?

So what are you saying about MY truck! I don't have a blue oval in the
front but it's still a Ford. So if I don't have a blue oval, my truck
isn't good enough for you! Is that what your are saying. *g*

The previous is all in fun. Please don't read any deeper. I'm just
playing with you.

Anyone put disk brakes on an older Dana 60? I was thinking about
finding some disks to fit on the hubs and them using a set of twin
piston F-250 2x front calipers. Some people say that they have made
brackets out of 1/4" steel. Would that be HD enough?
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:53:44 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

Bill Beyer wrote:
> As long as the truck has a blue oval on the front
> who really cares what the guts look like?



O.K. last one I promise!

so if I buy a chevy truck and stick a Ford oval on it, its a Ford,
right?????????? ;)

Dana

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:57:51 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

Caradawc concentric.net wrote:

> I'm with ya! sure its a pain to dig out the FoMoCo parts that will work,
> especially when the industry is so pointed at the bow tie crowd, but there
> is a lot of pride in knowing that my truck is as Ford as it can be. Sure I
> could take the easy way out but if I had wanted to do that, I would have
> bought brand X to begin with.
>
> Rick Brewster
> "Diamonds are forever and those old Fords, they just keep movin on"
>



Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

Dana

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:00:18 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

> > As long as the truck has a blue oval on the front
> > who really cares what the guts look like?
> >


> I do!!
>
> Rick Brewster
> another "over the top" Ford owner
>


Thanks Again!!!!!!!!

Dana

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:12:02 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

Don Grossman wrote:

>
> Anyone put disk brakes on an older Dana 60? I was thinking about
> finding some disks to fit on the hubs and them using a set of twin
> piston F-250 2x front calipers. Some people say that they have made
> brackets out of 1/4" steel. Would that be HD enough?
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>


Don't know for sure but disks from the front of a 4x4 ( if they exist )
might fit with mods. to the rear hubs. I used the drum backing plates as
a starting place for a swap I did many years ago. Cut most of it away
and it left me with a cup shaped part to weld more mounting parts to.
look at a stock type and try to duplicate the engineering. One kit I saw
used a flat 1/4" plate to mount calipers to the rear ( don't remember
the rear type or application )


Dana

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:42:12 -0800
From: marko
Subject: carb advice, blue ovals

Hey y'all.

Well, just updating you from the great wet north. Lettuce is $2.00 a head!!
All of you seem to have got our winter weather, and we yours, sort of. The
sunshine is all of the liquid variety though.

Anyway, enough talk about blue ovals already! Most of us 67-72'ers have
block letters, doncha know. I happen to have two sorts: Ford and Mercury!!

I have been phoning around engine builders. Piece of advice to those of you
also shopping: become knowledgeable! Happily I have an oddball engine
(410) to rebuild so most people really don't know it's an FE. Those that
do, tend to know a lot. Those that know off the tops of their heads are
probably the ones to go to. Steve Christ's book (is he related to Jesus
Cardoso? :-0) was really helpful. Evidently, basically everything is
available, including new rocker arm/shaft assemblies. I am dropping it off
next week so will keep you all posted.

Also, I picked up a spacer, wide cap, and wires for my Duraspark 360. Every
little bit helps I guess, I'll let you know if I notice a difference.

Does anybody have any experiences good or bad with different brands of
batteries? I'm in need of a new one and am wondering what's what.

I looked at the website for that roll-on bedliner stuff--looks interesting.
Has anybody ever tried it? I would think it'd make an excellent stone guard
on the cab mounts and wheel wells. Any thoughts?

Finally, since I am building a motor I might as well bite the bullet and
pick up a proper new carb. I bought a new Holley (sat in a box for years
but was otherwise new) and have had nothing but ups and downs with it. Fuel
consumption went up, my degree of happiness went down. Somebody please
explain to me what the difference is among the Holley, Edelbrock and Carter
designs (the builder recommended the Edelbrock, said "you bolt it on and
forget about it") and the plusses and minuses of each. Also, please explain
to me what cfm rating I shud use. The volumetric charts say you don't need
700+ cfm until over 5000 rpm (which I never do) but what about lower-end
performance, fuel atomization, etc.

Thanks in advance for all of your help! Here's wishing all of you a safe,
happy, and prosperous new year!

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4
67 merc m100
66 merc 410
some assembly required!

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:59:20 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

At 06:12 PM 12/30/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Don't know for sure but disks from the front of a 4x4 ( if they exist )
>might fit with mods. to the rear hubs. I used the drum backing plates as
>a starting place for a swap I did many years ago. Cut most of it away
>and it left me with a cup shaped part to weld more mounting parts to.
>look at a stock type and try to duplicate the engineering. One kit I saw
>used a flat 1/4" plate to mount calipers to the rear ( don't remember
>the rear type or application )

Might try getting them from a front D60 axle from a late-model F-350 or
(much easier to find) any Dodge 1-ton from 1975-present. Ch*bby also used
them but I don't know how consistently.

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:09:34 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Request for articles

If you have a talent, have done an upgrade, engine swap,
performance enhancement, repair, added an alarm system,
etc.... whatever it is you can share your experience
with others via the web site.

I recently put an article on the web site describing
upgrading 67-72 Ford trucks to front disc brakes. Another
list member has submitted an article on Ford C6/NP205
transmission removal and re-installation which will soon
appear on the web site.

You'll get full credit for an article, I won't edit it and
you keep the copyright (there will be a copyright notice on
it). I can't offer financial gain because, frankly, the web
site ain't making money. We come out a little above the
break even point. I will, however, send you one of our window
stickers.

I'm searching for experience with any Ford truck/van model,
any year and virtually any area (an article on changing
tires is probably not a good idea!). If you're interested,
let me know (kpayne mindspring.com) browse the conversion
guide on the web site to get a basic idea of the format.
The C6/NP205 guide has a similar format.

Thanks,

Ken
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:02:13 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: carb advice, blue ovals

At 09:42 PM 12/30/97 -0800, marko wrote:
>Does anybody have any experiences good or bad with different brands of
>batteries? I'm in need of a new one and am wondering what's what.

Three words:

Buy an Optima. Period. If you can spring for the $120-150, you'll never
regret it.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:25:14 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

>I'm with ya! sure its a pain to dig out the FoMoCo parts that will work,
>especially when the industry is so pointed at the bow tie crowd, but there
>is a lot of pride in knowing that my truck is as Ford as it can be. Sure I
>could take the easy way out but if I had wanted to do that, I would have
>bought brand X to begin with.
>
>Rick Brewster
>"Diamonds are forever and those old Fords, they just keep movin on"

This is your right. It is also my choice to keep all three of my Fords
equipped with Ford parts. I feel if a person wants to discuss installing
something other than a Ford part, it's worth discussing. Making a Ford truck
a Chevy is foolishness and not the point of the discussion.
One of the biggest upgrades for the older F100s is installing a Vaga
front-end. Now I'm not sure if that's a generic name or they use a front-end
from a Vaga. It's the best way to lower them (from what I've read). If we
can't discuss things of this nature, what's the point.

>> who really cares what the guts look like?

>I do!!
>Rick Brewster

I do believe your speaking of your own truck. Correct? I feel the same
way. But I can't chastise a person going for cost effective mods on their
trucks. I do like reading of peoples mods. Not that I wish to do them, but I
love wrenching and reading of others experiences.
I find opinions that condemn for no better reason than it will
bastardize Ford, as insecurity. If the better choice is using Ford
components lets hear the reasons.

Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
================================================
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:41:24 -0800
From:
Subject: Re: carb advice, blue ovals

marko wrote:

> Hey y'all.

snip...

> The volumetric charts say you don't need
> 700+ cfm until over 5000 rpm (which I never do) but what about lower-end
> performance, fuel atomization, etc.
>
> Thanks in advance for all of your help! Here's wishing all of you a safe,
> happy, and prosperous new year!
>
> marko in vancouver

A 600 or 650 CFM would work very well for your application. The smaller
venturisand throttle bores will increase your low-speed response. If, as you
say, you wont be exceeding 5000
you will not see any significant performance loss with the smaller carb but the
driveability will be
enhanced.

I have two carbs for my street/strip 460 powered p/u. A 780 CFM holley I use at
the drag strip, and a 600 I put on for street use. (I have done this so much its
a 10 minute job). Both are vacuum secondary.

Hope this helps

Rick Brewster
73 F-100, 460 by Lincoln

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:25:28 -0800
From:
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

Deacon wrote:

> >I'm with ya! sure its a pain to dig out the FoMoCo parts that will work,
> >especially when the industry is so pointed at the bow tie crowd, but there
> >is a lot of pride in knowing that my truck is as Ford as it can be. Sure I
> >could take the easy way out but if I had wanted to do that, I would have
> >bought brand X to begin with.
> >
> >Rick Brewster
> >"Diamonds are forever and those old Fords, they just keep movin on"
>
> This is your right. It is also my choice to keep all three of my Fords
> equipped with Ford parts. I feel if a person wants to discuss installing
> something other than a Ford part, it's worth discussing. Making a Ford truck
> a Chevy is foolishness and not the point of the discussion.
> One of the biggest upgrades for the older F100s is installing a Vaga
> front-end. Now I'm not sure if that's a generic name or they use a front-end
> from a Vaga. It's the best way to lower them (from what I've read). If we
> can't discuss things of this nature, what's the point.
>
> >> who really cares what the guts look like?
>
> >I do!!
> >Rick Brewster
>
> I do believe your speaking of your own truck. Correct? I feel the same
> way. But I can't chastise a person going for cost effective mods on their
> trucks. I do like reading of peoples mods. Not that I wish to do them, but I
> love wrenching and reading of others experiences.
> I find opinions that condemn for no better reason than it will
> bastardize Ford, as insecurity. If the better choice is using Ford
> components lets hear the reasons.
>
> Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
> ================================================
> Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/

How nice of you to respond in such a positive way! The first instance where you
quoted me was a response to Dana in support of his statement. I condemned no
one,
unless you take the case that if I support one position I then, by default,
condemn all
others. In no place in the first instance did I imply or state that I was
refering to anyone
else's truck except my own. I did imply that it was a case of personal, ie my
own, pride
that drives me to keep my truck as Ford as possible. I didn't say you had to or
that Bill Beyer
(the person I responded to in the second instance) had to feel that way. It was
an affirmation
of solidarity with Dana. No more, no less.

In the second instance I was responding to an interrogative statement by Mr.
Beyer. He asked
"...who really cares what the guts look like?" I do care and stated so. How is
that "chastising" him?
If Mr Beyer had not expected answers to his interrogative statement, either yes
or no, then the
question should not have been asked.

To paraphrase, I find opinions that condemn for no better reason than one shows
a preference
for one brand of parts over another, as insecurity.

Rick Brewster
73 F-100, 460 by Lincoln

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:52:57 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

Let me end this here and now!!!


I ( as in me ) prefer to keep it all Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone else can do what ever they want.

( I will recommend that everyone use Ford parts, and I will say it every
chance I get! )

If I remember this thread started as a ford 9" and disk breaks not dana
60/70 full floating with disk breaks, which is a whole different ball
game. There are many FORD kits for the Ford 9" and there are stock ford
parts that can be adapted with minimal work ( I have done it )

original post:

>Has anyone done a disc brake conversion to a Ford 9"? I
just >replaced my whole brake system except the rear brakes. I
need >Everything for the back brakes so i figured if i'm
spending all that >money maybe i should spend a little more and
convert to disc. I've >seen a lot of guys around here do it. Has
anyone done this or know >anything about this conversion? I would
appreciate any info you >could give as to worth, Price, Brands,
difficulty, etc... Thanx!


Tyler If your still out there, you have my apologies for my part in the
"Great Ford vs. chevy debate"!

I know I and at least one other responded with info! Did you get
anything useful?

Dana

P.S. Thanks to the other loyal Ford Folks for support!
- --- Deacon I just had to ;) ---

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:09:47 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

>How nice of you to respond in such a positive way! The first instance where
you
>quoted me was a response to Dana in support of his statement. I condemned
no
>one,
>unless you take the case that if I support one position I then, by default,
>condemn all
>others. In no place in the first instance did I imply or state that I was
>refering to anyone
>else's truck except my own. I did imply that it was a case of personal, ie
my
>own, pride
>that drives me to keep my truck as Ford as possible.

I'm in total agreement with Dana and you as far as my truck is concerned
and by no means believe in the "agree with it all or none non of it"
standpoint. As for me it's not pride that keeps my trucks genuine Ford but
through my experience, Ford is the best I can buy. I have had the others and
hopefully well not have them again.
I took it you were speaking of your truck. I asked just to be sure. I
didn't imply you were doing anything else. Sorry if I miss-worded what I was
trying to say.

>I didn't say you had to or that Bill Beyer
>(the person I responded to in the second instance) had to feel that way. It
was
>an affirmation of solidarity with Dana. No more, no less.

First let me say I consider Dana a friend. I not only like him for his
personality I also respect his opinions and his knowledge. Rick, I believe
you have your head on straight and didn't intend to take your affirmation of
solidarity with Dana out of context. If I did I apologies.

>In the second instance I was responding to an interrogative statement by
Mr.
>Beyer. He asked
>"...who really cares what the guts look like?" I do care and stated so. How
is
>that "chastising" him?

Once again I was referring to a mindset that flatly refuses to except
another opinions and did a piss poor job at making my point. You were not
chastising him by stating you care.

>If Mr Beyer had not expected answers to his interrogative statement, either
yes
>or no, then the
>question should not have been asked.

Mr. Beyer made no comment on your post, I did. He more than likely did....


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