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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, December 29 1997 Volume 01 : Number 404



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In this issue:

Re:fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #403 ["Chris Findlay" ]
which carb - which rear - how can I tell? ["THE PAVIES'"
Re: 9" Disc Conversion ["J. Oxley" ]
63 custom cab [A66f100 ]
Re: Chat Room ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re:360 to 428 conversion [leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #403 [DHooper322 ]
Front sump...No Good !! [Brian & Jacque Milbrandt ]
Re: 63 custom cab [Don Grossman ]
Re: which carb - which rear - how can I tell? [Don Grossman
Re: Front sump...No Good !! [Don Grossman ]
Disc brake conversion guide now on web site [Ken Payne
Re: 63 custom cab [A66f100 ]
Re: carburetor/intake advice ["Jason K. Schechner" ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #403 [GMPACHECO ]
Slip Yolk? [reedg ns2.cetlink.net]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #399 [garchap webtv.net (Gary Chapman)]

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 03:55:38 -0700
From: "Chris Findlay"
Subject: Re:fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #403

I will be out of the office on Vacation until December 29th.
You can contact DeeDee Van Lenten (dvlenten) for any questions.

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Re: 9" Disc Conversion ["J. Oxley"
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Gearbox & T-case info [Kurt Albershardt
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Re: 9" Disc Conversion [danadeb pacbell.ne=
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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:13:54 -0500
From: "J. Oxley"
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

danadeb pacbell.net wrote:

> I have seen many kits on the market and would recommend that you go with
> I complete kit. Keep in mind the fewer custom parts the better. ( break
> a stock part in the middle of nowhere and you might be able to find a
> replacement. break a custom part and your in deep doo doo!

I went with TSM. I originally ordered the 9" kit, but then I decided
to go with a dana 60 rear and finally installed that kit. Both kits use
custom made caliper brackets, 1/2 or 1 ton Ch*bbie front rotrs and Olds
toranado rear calipers (if you want a praking brake). I also got SS
lines to allow caliper removal. I would recommend getting brackets and
from TSM and getting the rest of the parts locally. TSM will tell you
exactly which parts to get. I know is sucks to have ch*bbie parts on
your rig, but as mentioned, at least you could find a part out in the
middle of no-where and axle shafts are stock. The calipers brackets are
1/4 inch steel plate and will definately never break. I still have a
mushy pedal, but at least I can lock up the rear brakes again. I have 38
inch tires and the brakes were getting weak. I have also heard that the
brake booster/master cyl from a 79, F350, 2WD will bolt up to that year
Bronco/F-150. This combo supposedly gives a much shorter stroke
(although more pressure needed) for braking. =20

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> One more thing:
> The break balance is tricky so you will need an adjustable >proportioning=
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I didn't seem to need one, and I have bigger disk brakes out back than
in the front at this point. Probably because I need all the brakes I
can get. Maybe with smaller tires it might be a problem.=20

>And remove the back check valve from your master cylinder (
> easier said then done=20

I was told by TSM to leave this in with the toranado calipers as they
have had complaints about the calipers not being adsjusted up enough to
the rotors. Part of this problem is keeping E-brake adjusted up and
using it as GM's rear calipers freeze up consistantly if E-brake is not
used. The residual 10 lbs of pressure helps keep the pads adjusted up,
supposedly. =20


OX

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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:02:48 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Gearbox & T-case info

I'd like to start compiling a (reasonably) comprehensive reference on this
stuff.



I've got a model referenced below, but its info is outdated and incomplete.=

Anybody with info or suggestions for organization please reply.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fourwheeler.com/facts/tranxspec.html

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 00:15:08 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

> Both kits use
> custom made caliper brackets, 1/2 or 1 ton Ch*bbie front rotrs and Olds
> toranado rear calipers



No don't do it!=20

Keep it all Ford!!!!!!!=20

Don't be a Chevy sell out!!!!! ( Flame suit ready! )

The kits are out there!!!!!!!

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 08:06:30 -0500
From: "THE PAVIES'"
Subject: which carb - which rear - how can I tell?

What's the secret to finding out what carb I have on my 360? And can I
tell which rear/gear ratios is on my 76 F-250?
Thanks to all who ans my post about carb heat and the JCW front coil
springs. Actually nobody commented on the coil springs so I'm going to
order a pair today to see what I get. $44/pair seems pretty cheap
though. Best wishes for a great New Year to
everybody!
Jack P.

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:14:46 -0500
From: "J. Oxley"
Subject: Re: 9" Disc Conversion

danadeb pacbell.net wrote:
> No don't do it!
>
> Keep it all Ford!!!!!!!
>
> Don't be a Chevy sell out!!!!! ( Flame suit ready! )
>
> The kits are out there!!!!!!!

I agree, but who makes all Ford, bolt on, rear disc kits for a dana
60. I also haven't seen any bolt on kits using Ford parts for a 9". Who
makes these??

OX



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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:23:27 EST
From: A66f100
Subject: 63 custom cab

Was wandering around the car lots this morning and found a 63 custom cab for $
875. Body and interior are in fair shape. Popped the hood on it and it has a
V8. The engine appears to be different than a FE. Dist is in back of the air
breather at an angle and there is an exhaust cross over tube on the top front
of the engine. Is this possibly a 292 V8? Looks to be original and the truck
has not been modified in any way that I can see. Any ideas on the engine and
the price? Thanks. Mike B.

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:44:01 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Chat Room

After going to the chat room many times and not finding anyone there this
weekend has been very different. Chatted for about 3 hours Saturday night
and again on Sunday morning. Had a great time! If you've tried it without
success......give it another try, it's worth it.

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M
York, Nebraska

BTW Ken, hope you get the script fixed soon......it's a pain to scroll down
to see the messages and then back up to post.

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:52:06 -0800
From: leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)
Subject: Re:360 to 428 conversion

>Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 13:41:46 EST
>From: BDIJXS
>Subject: 360 to 428 bore
>
>Hello
>
>I'm gathering info on the 360 to 428 conversion, and it looks like it
>=
>won't be
>too much trouble. Does anyone know for sure if I can bore out the 360
>=
>block to
>the 428 specs without getting the jacket too thin?

Jeff, it's not quite that easy the only way to know for sure if your
block can be punched out that far is to take it down and have it sonic
checked at a reputable rebuilder some will bore that far and some won't .

>If so, this is a 68 block, can I just go to Ford and buy the 428 crank?
=
>so,
>anyone have a part number???

The crank is another sticking point while their were a lot 410's and
428's built {they used the same crank } the crank's are getting harder to
find and more expensive. And no Ford dosen't carry them any more, even if
they did it would probably cost prohibitive
to buy one from them.
I would check with a local rebuilder and see if he might locate one for
you.
I hope this helps
Mark.
>Thanks!
>
>Jeff Schulz
>bdijxs aol.com
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:51:40 EST
From: DHooper322
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #403

I'm trying to find a book on 66 F100.

Any suggestions?

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:07:09 -0500
From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt
Subject: Front sump...No Good !!

Ok guy's....I tried a front sump pan this weekend on my 460. This
different pan still does not allow the engine to fit the cross member.
Is it maybe my motor mounts ? They are the L&L conversion mounts to fit
a '79 f150. They are basically flat to the block. Is there a car type
mount I should be using ? Do the car type or stock truck type stick out
farther from the block ? The ones I'm using are only about
2" from the side of the block...I need about 4" to clear the oil pan.
If anyone has a pair they could measure for me it would be a great help
as I now am not sure what to do. Possibly custom make a new cross member
to fit.

Thanks...Brian

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 15:29:10 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 63 custom cab

A66f100 wrote:
>
> Was wandering around the car lots this morning and found a 63 custom cab for $
> 875. Body and interior are in fair shape. Popped the hood on it and it has a
> V8. The engine appears to be different than a FE. Dist is in back of the air
> breather at an angle and there is an exhaust cross over tube on the top front
> of the engine. Is this possibly a 292 V8? Looks to be original and the truck
> has not been modified in any way that I can see. Any ideas on the engine and
> the price? Thanks. Mike B.

If it is clean and runs well, I'll take 10! I would turn around and
sell 9 of em for $1200 *g*

It sounds like the 292 to me.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 15:42:02 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: which carb - which rear - how can I tell?

THE PAVIES' wrote:
>
> What's the secret to finding out what carb I have on my 360? And can I
> tell which rear/gear ratios is on my 76 F-250?

There should be a tag on the carb if it is the stock unit and hasn't
been played with.

For the rear end the sure way is to pop the rear cover and look for a
set of numbers on the ring gear. next best would be to look at the tag
on the rear cover and last would be to count the number of turns of the
pinoin to the wheels.

The most positive way to be sure is to look at the ring gear and since
it is a 76 it is mostlikely time to change the gear lube.

> Thanks to all who ans my post about carb heat and the JCW front coil
> springs. Actually nobody commented on the coil springs so I'm going to
> order a pair today to see what I get. $44/pair seems pretty cheap
> though. Best wishes for a great New Year to
> everybody!
> Jack P.

You get what you pay for.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 15:47:46 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Front sump...No Good !!

Brian & Jacque Milbrandt wrote:
>
> Ok guy's....I tried a front sump pan this weekend on my 460. This
> different pan still does not allow the engine to fit the cross member.
> Is it maybe my motor mounts ? They are the L&L conversion mounts to fit
> a '79 f150. They are basically flat to the block. Is there a car type
> mount I should be using ? Do the car type or stock truck type stick out
> farther from the block ? The ones I'm using are only about
> 2" from the side of the block...I need about 4" to clear the oil pan.
> If anyone has a pair they could measure for me it would be a great help
> as I now am not sure what to do. Possibly custom make a new cross member
> to fit.
>
> Thanks...Brian

Are we fitting this into a 4x4 or a 2 wheel drive. I believe for a 4x
you will need to get the rear sump oil pan. There is an 8 qt available
but I'm not sure who makes it.
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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 19:15:47 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Disc brake conversion guide now on web site

For those of you with 1967-1972 (the article applies in many ways to
earlier 60s trucks but it was not written with them in mind) F100-F250
trucks...

The front drum to disc conversion guide is now on line. This detailed
article should come in handy for anyone considering this modification.

Enjoy,
Ken, Admin
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 19:52:59 EST
From: A66f100
Subject: Re: 63 custom cab

Thanks Don. Was not familiar with any trucks older than 66. Hope to hear it
run tomorrow. Will let you know if it is decent. I agree the price seems
pretty low. Mike B.

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:21:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jason K. Schechner"
Subject: Re: carburetor/intake advice

On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, Adam Clever wrote:

[snip]
> In general, is a 4 barrel carb any real benefit if I never go over 4500 rpm?

Yep. A 4bbl is going to have four smaller venturis (venturae?) as
opposed to a 2bbl's two larger pipes. Those smaller holes make for better
throttle response and better mixing of the air-fuel mixture, improving
performance. If you go with a spread-bore carb (small primaries and
bigger secondaries) that effect is amplified because you've got two huge
venturae (hehe) that only open up at higher RPM's.

- -Jason
79 Bronco (460 coming soon, C6, 33" BFG AT's) GRN GYNT - offroad monster
79 Bronco (400M, C6, 31" Wranglers) blue - BGHOSS (coming soon)
95 Mustang GT - LTLHOS - Eibachs, 3.55's, K&N, 13deg timing
84 Kawasaki GPz550 - TNYHOS - to make up for the Broncos' appetite

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:38:01 EST
From: GMPACHECO
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #403

REGARDING A BOOK FOR A 66 YOU COULD TRY
IRV BISHKO AUTO LITERATURE, HE HAS A FEW DIFFERENT YEARS, HE'S NOT CHEAP, BUT
WHAT IS NOW DAYS... TELEPHONE NUMBER IS
440/338-4811. HE ANSWERS THE PHONE PERSONALLY...

GOOD LUCK
MIKE IN SEATTLE

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:50:34 +0000
From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
Subject: Slip Yolk?

I have a '78 f150 4x4 with a NP203 transfer case. On the front axle
there is a slip yolk on the drivers side that connects the axle to
the hub which rotates the front tire. I think it is called the slip
yolk. FoMoCo has it for an arm, leg, and my first born, where can I
buy it cheaper?

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