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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, December 23 1997 Volume 01 : Number 398

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In this issue:

Cab floor repair panels [A66f100 ]
Re: Clutch Plate and Clutch... ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Lemans Rods [am14

chrysler.com]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #396 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Lemans Rods [John MacNamara ]
Re: dodge rods into ford 460? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Cab floor repair panels ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Clutch [am14

chrysler.com]
Test [John Pajak ]
360 Conversion [John Pajak ]
Re:Stereo Speakers/Gas Tanks [Keith Srb ]
RE: 66 gas tank ["kingw" ]
Gas Tank Filler Tubes [Keith Srb ]
Re: 360 Conversion [marko ]
Re: 360 Conversion [John Pajak ]
'77 F-150 [BlueOval77 ]
RE: Limited Slip Questions [Sleddog ]
RE: 460? stroker [Sleddog ]
RE: big bore 460 stoker - - was dodge rods [Sleddog ]
RE: 460 stroker [Sleddog ]
OIL PAN ?? [Brian & Jacque Milbrandt ]
model of a 1976 (1973-1977 is okay) Ford pickup ["Terry Sherman"
Re: Motorcraft 2150 tips ["Dale and Donna Carmine"
Re: Season's Greetings ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Three on the tree [Tyler Abbott ]
Re: 460? stroker [Firrer ]
Book [Alan Mittelstaedt ]
Re: Season's Greetings [HYDROSMITH ]

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 06:13:53 EST
From: A66f100
Subject: Cab floor repair panels

Hello everyone. Pulled up the floor mat in my truck the other day and found
several rusted out split areas in the cab floor. Does anyone know if there is
a manufacturer of repair panels for a 66 f100? If not any suggestions on how
to repair the damage and prevent it from happening in the future? Thanks.
Mike B.

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 07:36:28 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Clutch Plate and Clutch...

> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 01:40:53 -0600
> From: "Dennis K. Austin"
> Subject: Clutch Plate and Clutch...

> Every town has one. Well, I buy a performance clutch pressure plate
> and clutch from him that he says will fit my 302 V8 in my '66 F100.
> Now I know that this engine is not original, because its been
> reworked. The new 9 inch pressure plate has 3 fingers for the
> throwout bearing. When I yanked mine out I found an 11 inch
> pressure plate with 18 fingers that reminds me of the guts of an old
> typewriter. The old clutch is also 11 inches.

I can't imagine a 9" clutch being for performance?? sounds like the
one's they used in the 4 bangers to me. Fact is you can use the 4
banger clutch in the mustang with 302 cuz I did it when I couldn't
afford the super GT clutch. Can't remember if the size was different
tho. Bigger is always better with clutches and anyone who tells you
different is after your money with no morals. It's the diameter of
the friction surface that give it it's torque ability along with more
pressure but I've never seen a 3 pronger super clutch?? The one you
say has lots of fingers is called a diaphram spring clutch which is
the normal set up in automotive circles.

The flywheel determines the max and min sizes you can use. They have
a recess in the center so you can't use anything smaller than what
will line up to the inside of the disk pads with no overlap (pads
over recess) or any larger than will fit within the pressure plate
bolt patterns. Properly set up the pressure plate and clutch disk
should exactly match and both pretty much fill up the space on the
flywheel with just enough left over to allow for the pressure plate
bolts etc..

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 07:48:49 -0500
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: Lemans Rods

John: By any other means of robery this would be termed a criminal
act!! You stole those things brother!!!Santa came a few days early,
huh!!

>>By the way just picked up a set of 427 Lemans this weekend all
shotpeened
resized with ARP bolts for $400.

Merry Christmas

Azie

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:31:45 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #396

> From: A64F100
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 21:31:45 EST
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #396

> However, I do wonder about that tank behind the seat. Mine is
> located there too. I am a little uncomfortable about it being so
> near my buttocks, but the only way to get around it would be to
> remove it and >>get something mounted between the frame rails. What
> do you guys thinks?

If I were doing this I'd get a poly tank from JCW for the auxilary
position in a two tank pickup. They are usually a bit smaller than
rear main tanks so will probably fit easier but only hold about 15 -
18 gal. I put a 75 van tank in place of an aux tank on my 78 and it
was almost twice as tall but the same width and length so I had to
get new perf straps and make up some longer spacers for the bolts and
of course longer bolts but it fit higher than the rear axle so was
somewhat protected. Took a little monkeying but very doable.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 06:24:23 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Lemans Rods

am14

chrysler.com wrote:

> John: By any other means of robery this would be termed a criminal
> act!! You stole those things brother!!!Santa came a few days early,
> huh!!

Yea, got to take them back as it turns out he had a medium riser side oiler
motor for sale that I made an offer on and he accepted yesterday. It
already has the lemans rods.

If anybody needs or wants these rods for that price, speak up as I pick up
the motor Saturday.

Thanks
John

>
>
> >>By the way just picked up a set of 427 Lemans this weekend all
> shotpeened
> resized with ARP bolts for $400.
>
> Merry Christmas
>
> Azie
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:36:40 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: dodge rods into ford 460?

> From: Firrer
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:09:44 EST
> Subject: Re: dodge rods into ford 460?

> heck i dont know,but u can change the stroke on the crank by
> grinding the throws but the journals will be undersize maybe it
> matches the dodge rods dont know but want to find out i have a old
> 460 and a crank that needs turned and a pair of 429 dove a heads
> that have been cc ed to add 10cc to the chamber so they will run
> with pump gas just want to through the darn thing together just to
> see what it does

Has it occured to anyone that this will also require wrist pin height
change in the pistons? The crank regrind will fix the rod fit but it
will still push the piston higher due to longer rods. Now if you
went to a ford rod of the same length but 2.250 instead of 2.312
journal dia and maintain the outer limit of the rod journals and
grind to them (which I'm sure they do anyway) you will only move half
the stroke higher so might get away with it but you may need to notch
the piston skirts.

To get 517 you need a stroke of 4.33" with stock bore. Bore it out
to 4.420 and you can get away with 4.220 stroke which is still .370
more than stock or a pistion height difference of .185" which is a
bunch. There are 2.75 main cranks for 460's and stroker cranks too
but if you're going to have a stock crank stroker ground you need to
change the journal centers by .185" which means grinding off TWICE
that so a rod journal of 2.312 will be 1.942". That's kind of scary
to me? This kind of change may work with a billet steel crank but
not with cast or nodular iron I shouldn't think??

Did I figure this suff right? Man! How do they get 600"???

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:43:21 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Cab floor repair panels

> From: A66f100
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 06:13:53 EST
> Subject: Cab floor repair panels

> Hello everyone. Pulled up the floor mat in my truck the other day
> and found several rusted out split areas in the cab floor. Does
> anyone know if there is a manufacturer of repair panels for a 66
> f100? If not any suggestions on how to repair the damage and prevent
> it from happening in the future? Thanks. Mike B. +--------------

Lots of places make repair panels for older trucks including
autokrafters and JCW. I plan to rhino line or maybe one of the DIY
types but no floor mat. Moisture stays under floor mats and rots out
the steel. Going to try to get to some of it this holliday but the
Dana comes first :-) Good maintenance is the only way to keep it
that way. Wash the underside often and keep the moisture out of the
cab.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:04:16 -0500
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: Clutch

Dennis: Looks like you have an aftermarket pressure plate. The stock
FOMOCO pressure plate has just 3 fingers. MY guess is 'ZOOM' or
'CENTERFORCE'. I'd rather have the 11" than anybody's 9". Try to
"surface" the pressure plate and maybe even pull the flywheel and
"surface" it, go buy a new 11' clutch with matching splines for the
inputshaft and keep the 11". All this is JMOH.

>> The new 9
inch pressure plate has 3 fingers for the throwout bearing. When I
yanked mine out I found an 11 inch pressure plate with 18 fingers that
reminds me of the guts of an old typewriter. The old clutch is also 11
inches.

Azie

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 07:06:08 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak
Subject: Test

test message

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 07:19:26 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak
Subject: 360 Conversion

I have a 360 in a 75 F100. I want to convert it to 390. I have a
390 crank and rods. Anybody done this swap before?

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75 F100
68 Fairlane SW
And a bunch of Oldsmobiles
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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:39:30 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re:Stereo Speakers/Gas Tanks

At 01:24 AM 12/21/97 -0600, you wrote:

>Keith Srb wrote:

>>

>> Has anyone install after market stereo speakers in their trucks? What

>> brand. What Type. Where?

>

>Keith... brands don't matter. Placement is what matters. Choose what

>you like and can afford. I have a 1966 F100 too. Now you just go out

>there and open the driver's door on your EFFIE. See that large plate in

>the lower door?

Yes

>Take it off and roll the window down. All the way.

>Measure your clearance and get a hole cut in the plate that will allow

>your speakers to clear the window and sit as flush as possible.

I was hoping to avoid cutting holes in any part of the cab.

>I have

>large oblong polypropalene (sp?) speakers like those used in a car's

>rear deck mounted in both doors. I also know an individual that prides

>himself on placing speakers in vehicles. He enters contests on this

>kinda stuff. Call David Creger of Audio Plus at 318-742-9806 and he

>will advise you how to get speakers under the seat or other places.

>

>However, I do wonder about that tank behind the seat. Mine is located

>there too. I am a little uncomfortable about it being so near my

>buttocks, but the only way to get around it would be to remove it and

>get something mounted between the frame rails. What do you guys thinks?

>

A friend of mine suggested that I take the Tank out of the cab, mount it in the front of the bed, and then build a box around it. I haven't decided if I am going to attempt this or not.

Keith Srbherbie

netvalue.net

Mesa, AZ

1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi
5-Speed.

1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.

1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long
Box, Style Side.

1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.

My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:47:07 -0600
From: "kingw"
Subject: RE: 66 gas tank

Keith
Like you, I wanted to get the gas tank out of my cab (I have a 68
F100). I had a hard time finding anything that would fit between the
rear frame rails (didn't know about the 77-78 Granada fix : - (
I ended up getting a 20 gal Ch**y tank from a full size pickup. You
may recall this is the imfamous 'exploding' gas tank that would
rupture when you got side-swiped hard enough (of much TV news
hype and the resulting law suits).
Anyway, the 20 gal will fit with a little cutting and bending (you have
to rework a little of the driver's side floor under the seat and cut some
metal from the bed-cab juncture). If you go with a 16 gal Ch**vy truck
tank (from a shortbed or stepside), which is shorter, you can avoid this
cutting part but won't increase tank size over what you now have.
The filler neck comes right to the
rear wheel well (I didn't want to cut a hole in the side of my bed to make
it 'normal' so I just stick the gas nozzle into the wheel well to fill it
up.
The drawbacks to this, besides cutting some
sheet metal, are that the tank is mounted outside the frame rails (thus
replicating the aforementioned 'exploding' gas tank scenario if I get
side-swiped hard enough). The tank also sits a little low (if you go
4 wheeling I wouldn't suggest doing it, but I have never bottomed it out
driving around town and I have 2wd). The upside is that I have much more
room in my cab, won't take a gas bath in the event of a bad crash, don't
smell gas fumes all the time, and can hold 20 gals as opposed to 16 gal.

I hope that this helps.

Bill

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:18:51 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Gas Tank Filler Tubes

Hi all,

1974 F250, Dual Tanks, Filler tubes that splash gas back out when pumping gas. Has anyone every tried to replace the filler tubes with filler tubes and swing out doors that are on the newer Trucks?? I should be able to snag all of the need parts from a Salvage Yard. Unless I am forgetting something, I don't think it would be to hard to fit this stuff into my 74, would take some time to do though.

What do you think?

Happy Holidays!

Keith Srbherbie

rocketmail.com
>Lexington Park, Maryland http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak
>

John:

get yourself the book "how to repair your big-block Ford" for all the
details. Basically everything else is the same except the pistons. 360
pistons have a full skirt and 390 pistons have a slipper skirt so as they
don't bash the crank.

marko in vancouver
marko

helix.net
71 f250 4x4
67 merc m100
66 merc 410

all being combined.

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:29:53 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak
Subject: Re: 360 Conversion

- --marko wrote:
get yourself the book "how to repair your big-block Ford" for
all the details. Basically everything else is the same except the
pistons. 360 pistons have a full skirt and 390 pistons have a slipper
skirt so as they don't bash the crank.

>>Thanks Mark! I guess I need new pistons also! I seen the book
advertised before and I will definitely order a copy :)

===
John Pajak JSPajak

aol.com)

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:44:18 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Limited Slip Questions

well, i just got these new bfg muds, and needed to see how well they
work...

anyway, i ended up with one front wheel hung up (axle on rock in deep mud)
and after alot of digging, filling in with junk (the hole), and stuff, i
powered off of it (the rock) using mostly the front wheel on the ground.

i think this is what did it. i also "abused it" other days, but this must
have been the last straw. the carrier cam out in 2 pieces, and the worm
gears were no longer gears. the one end of the carrie that holds a bearing
also sheared off and the bearing cap of the axle broke in 2. there was
alot of broken pieces in the bottom of the axle.

i still have it as a reminder how to break things.

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3

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Sent: Monday, December 22, 1997 7:02 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79

ListService.net
Subject: RE: Limited Slip Questions

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Limited Slip Questions
> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:15:08 -0500

> i mentioned the torson. i had one (HAD!) in my dana 44 front for a
> few years. it was not a locker, but worked better than anything i
> ever had on the front before or since. i didn't really beleive the
> guy i bought the truck from when he said it had one, but it worked
> so good. then i completely destroyed the thing. such a pity, it
> was a wonderful diff.

How did you trash it?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Sent: Monday, December 22, 1997 8:43 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79

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Subject: Re: dodge rods into ford 460?

In a message dated 97-12-22 19:18:11 EST, you write:

little
crank grinding
and u are suposed to come up with about 513 cid useing stock parts
yep they do sell stroker kits etc. but they are to rich for my blood
just like playing around anyway >>

Someone correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but changing rod length is
not
the same as "stroking" the motor. The c.i.d. will stay the same, only the
compression ratio will change. For instance, the stock stroke for a 460 is
3.85". With a longer (or shorter) rod, the stroke is still 3.85". The
crankshaft has to be changed to change the stroke.

John Z
67 F-100 460/C-6

yes, the crank would be offset ground to fit the smaller rod dia of the
rod. the dodge rod is used for the smaller rod dia and all mopar rods i
have ever seen are very sturdy pieces. i have heard of using dodge rods
before in a 460, but did not know it was the 6 cyl. rod. i thought it was
the big block rod.

sleddog

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:16:20 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: big bore 460 stoker - - was dodge rods

To get 517 you need a stroke of 4.33" with stock bore. Bore it out
to 4.420 and you can get away with 4.220 stroke which is still .370
more than stock or a pistion height difference of .185" which is a
bunch. There are 2.75 main cranks for 460's and stroker cranks too
but if you're going to have a stock crank stroker ground you need to
change the journal centers by .185" which means grinding off TWICE
that so a rod journal of 2.312 will be 1.942". That's kind of scary
to me? This kind of change may work with a billet steel crank but
not with cast or nodular iron I shouldn't think??

Did I figure this suff right? Man! How do they get 600"???

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

REALLY BIG BORES! a fellow truck puller ran for many years a iron crank.
he turned over 9,000 rpm with it (i saw the memory tach) every pull.
(don't try this at home)

the block was cemented fully, and bored very big. i do not know the
numbers though. the motor was at least a 514 cid, but more likely a 560 or
so cid.

BTW, there is a company selling all aluminum big block ford blocks, capable
of 815 cubes. they also are seling better heads, the hemi heads, and many
other very expensive parts!

raceparts distribution
19500 zion st
po box 1203
cornelius NC 28031
704-892-8688

if you got the money, they got the motor for you!

sleddog

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:15:40 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 460 stroker

many times after all the parts, and machine work is done, it is cheaper to buy a stroker kit. my '68 460 ran on pump gas with 11.5:1 CR.

sleddog

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From: Firrer[SMTP:Firrer

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Sent: Monday, December 22, 1997 11:09 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79

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Subject: Re: dodge rods into ford 460?

heck i dont know,but u can change the stroke on the crank by grinding the
throws
but the journals will be undersize maybe it matches the dodge rods dont know
but
want to find out i have a old 460 and a crank that needs turned and a pair of
429
dove a heads that have been cc ed to add 10cc to the chamber so they will run
with pump gas just want to through the darn thing together just to see what it
does
mike

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:37:04 -0500
From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt
Subject: OIL PAN ??

Hello and Happy Holidays to all !!

Now for the Ford content.

I was wondering if anyone know's if my rear sump oil pan for my 460 is
going to fit alright into my '64 ??? It appears to be real close and I'd
rather get a different one now than be installing the engine and find it
doesn't fit !

Next question...I did a stupid thing. I installed my harmonic balancer
on my new crank with my impact...( yeah I now know that it was wrong) I
seemed to have screwed up the threads alittle. the bolt will still go
on, but is very loose at first and you can see the threads are chewed
up. what's the best repair at this point. engine is still on the stand
awaiting the new intake and rocker arms.

Thanks for your help, as it it always good.

And yes...I have my flame suit on for the stupidity of the impact !!

Brian

'64 F100 shortbox
'78 F150 4x4
'96 f150 4x4 shortbox
'94 Chr*sler LHS

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:34:02 -0600
From: "Terry Sherman"
Subject: model of a 1976 (1973-1977 is okay) Ford pickup

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prefur as much detail as possible. Built or as kit is fine.=20

Thank you,
Terry Sherman
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:47:00 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Motorcraft 2150 tips

Dave,
I did get a chance to work on the idle this weekend. Basically, what I did
was hand choke the engine to find out if I was lean/rich. Choking the
engine caused the rpm to increase so I knew I was lean. I backed the mixture
screws out another 1 1/2 turns and got a better idle and response. Haven't
driven it enough yet to tell if the flat spot is completely gone, but it is
much better. What bothers me is that I'm now backed out about 5 turns from
seated on the mixture screws, this is way past where it's supposed to be but
it runs better there. Could be a vacuum leak, but if so I can't find it.
Pulls about 17" vacuum at idle.

Dave said;
>Here are a couple of 2150 tuning tips for you.
>When you describe a problem as "missing," I am inclined to think of
>ignition problems, not carb problems.

Don't think that I have any ignition problems. Plugs are about 1 year old,
not many miles.....everything else looks good and runs good under load and
cruise conditions.

>Hesitation (just at the beginning of
>acceleration, especially from standing start) is a common carb problem,
>though. Sometimes, hesitation is caused by injecting either too much fuel
>(usually) or not enough fuel (rarely) with the accelerator pump.

Good idea! I'll try a few different settings on the accelerator pump
linkage. I think that when I put the carb kit on I set it rich, (more HAS
to be better!!!!! STUPID of me)

>P.S. Truck parked in driveway while I save up for brake parts and figure
>out how to convert from 2.5" shoes & drums to 3" shoes & drums. So far,
>I've determined that the 3" shoes & drums will fit w/ my backing plates,
>but not sure about the wheel cylinders.

Good luck with your brake project. My other current project, (besides
driveability problems), is replacing the cab corner and lower door skin on
the drivers side. Got the cab corner cut off and all the patchwork
fabricated and 'tek'screwed to the truck but I need to get it down and have
everything welded together before I can finish it. I wish one of you guys
with a MIG welder lived around the corner.
BTW I bought my cab corner from NAPA, Taiwanese junk, "legion" was the brand
name. The price was cheap but the fit was poor, I don't recommend them.

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M
York, Nebraska

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:49:57 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Season's Greetings

Well said, Tom!

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:12:23 -0800
From: Tyler Abbott
Subject: Three on the tree

My Uncle was looking at a truck as a "wheel barrow" on his farm. I didn't
get all the detales but it's a 76 or 77 F100 4X2 with a 300 I6 and a Three
speed manual transmission. As soon as I heard about the three speed I was a
little turned off. Since the truck will be pulling a load, does the three
speed have a low eneough first gear for pulling (anyone know the ratios)? I
have never had personal experence with a three speed, are they reliable?
Thanks
- -Tyler-

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:21:47 EST
From: Firrer
Subject: Re: 460? stroker

Sled dog it maybe the big block rods,dont know but some one out their knows ??
like the x files heheh also the only reason i took 10cc out of the 429 heads
was here in
it gets hot and muggy in the summer and was haveing a overheating problem with
the motor,btw ya could tell the difference in the power of the motor espessaly
on a cool
day mike hey every one have a good x-mas

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