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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, December 23 1997 Volume 01 : Number 397



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In this issue:

Re: dodge rods into ford 460? [Firrer ]
ADMIN: small truck list and web pics [Ken Payne ]
Re: dodge rods into ford 460? [SAR HOG ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #396 ["Dennis K. Austin"
Clutch Plate and Clutch... ["Dennis K. Austin" ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #396 [A64F100 ]
Re: dodge rods into ford 460? [Firrer ]
Re: Posi rear [mikepacheco juno.com (MIKE PACHECO)]
: Bout that carb! [leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #395 [leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)]
1963 4X4 [Tom Shay ]
Re: ADMIN: small truck list and web pics [danadeb pacbell.net]
1963 4X4 [Tom Shay ]
RE:carb heat;front coil springs for 76 [CAT LN7 ]

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:12:36 EST
From: Firrer
Subject: Re: dodge rods into ford 460?

well i think that the dodge 6cyl rods will fit on the 460 crank with a little
crank grinding
and u are suposed to come up with about 513 cid useing stock parts
yep they do sell stroker kits etc. but they are to rich for my blood
just like playing around anyway thanks mike

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:16:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: small truck list and web pics

I'll be unavailable through the first of the year because of
"crunch time" with a project I'm one. The small truck list
will not go on line until after the 1st.

To those who were wondering about the web pics used without
permission... only if your truck is a 73-79 do you need to
worry. The web site is: www.73-79 fordtrucks. com

It turns out that he also stole the graphic from the Big
Bronco page. I'm sure they'll take action since they are
hosted by Offroad.com (a huge site with money to back themselves
up). I've notified the vice-president of Offroad about this
copyright violation.

Well, back to work (no kidding... I'll be here late),

Ken

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:43:31 EST
From: SAR HOG
Subject: Re: dodge rods into ford 460?

In a message dated 97-12-22 19:18:11 EST, you write:


little
crank grinding
and u are suposed to come up with about 513 cid useing stock parts
yep they do sell stroker kits etc. but they are to rich for my blood
just like playing around anyway >>

Someone correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but changing rod length is not
the same as "stroking" the motor. The c.i.d. will stay the same, only the
compression ratio will change. For instance, the stock stroke for a 460 is
3.85". With a longer (or shorter) rod, the stroke is still 3.85". The
crankshaft has to be changed to change the stroke.

John Z
67 F-100 460/C-6

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 01:24:45 -0600
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #396

Keith Srb wrote:
>
> Has anyone install after market stereo speakers in their trucks? What
> brand. What Type. Where?

Keith... brands don't matter. Placement is what matters. Choose what
you like and can afford. I have a 1966 F100 too. Now you just go out
there and open the driver's door on your EFFIE. See that large plate in
the lower door? Take it off and roll the window down. All the way.
Measure your clearance and get a hole cut in the plate that will allow
your speakers to clear the window and sit as flush as possible. I have
large oblong polypropalene (sp?) speakers like those used in a car's
rear deck mounted in both doors. I also know an individual that prides
himself on placing speakers in vehicles. He enters contests on this
kinda stuff. Call David Creger of Audio Plus at 318-742-9806 and he
will advise you how to get speakers under the seat or other places.

However, I do wonder about that tank behind the seat. Mine is located
there too. I am a little uncomfortable about it being so near my
buttocks, but the only way to get around it would be to remove it and
get something mounted between the frame rails. What do you guys thinks?

- -=DENNIS=-

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 01:40:53 -0600
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: Clutch Plate and Clutch...

Alright...what gives? You know that old guy in town who used to build
Ford race cars and has a shed full of old Ford race parts? Every town
has one. Well, I buy a performance clutch pressure plate and clutch
from him that he says will fit my 302 V8 in my '66 F100. Now I know
that this engine is not original, because its been reworked. The new 9
inch pressure plate has 3 fingers for the throwout bearing. When I
yanked mine out I found an 11 inch pressure plate with 18 fingers that
reminds me of the guts of an old typewriter. The old clutch is also 11
inches.

What happened here? Is this standard in F series trucks or what?
Should I keep the original setup or switch? My F100 is for street
cruising. The clutch alignment tool fits both just fine.

Also, I have been watching you guys in the debate of F250 vs F350 and
axles. I found a '67 F250 Custom Cab. This thing had huge hubs on it.
There was ten bolts in each hub. The rear, minus wheels, looked to be a
dually setup. So when in the sixties did a 250 go from 3/4 ton to 1
ton?

Needless to say I stripped this junkyard hulk of evey piece of chrome I
could carry. If anybody is interested in the axles, body, etc. I will
tell you where to find it.

- -=DENNIS=-

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 21:31:45 EST
From: A64F100
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #396

> Has anyone install after market stereo speakers in their trucks? What
> brand. What Type. Where?

>>Keith... brands don't matter. Placement is what matters. Choose what
you like and can afford. I have a 1966 F100 too. Now you just go out
there and open the driver's door on your EFFIE. See that large plate in
the lower door? Take it off and roll the window down. All the way.
Measure your clearance and get a hole cut in the plate that will allow
your speakers to clear the window and sit as flush as possible. I have
large oblong polypropalene (sp?) speakers like those used in a car's
rear deck mounted in both doors. I also know an individual that prides
himself on placing speakers in vehicles. He enters contests on this
kinda stuff. Call David Creger of Audio Plus at 318-742-9806 and he
will advise you how to get speakers under the seat or other places.

However, I do wonder about that tank behind the seat. Mine is located
there too. I am a little uncomfortable about it being so near my
buttocks, but the only way to get around it would be to remove it and
>>get something mounted between the frame rails. What do you guys thinks?

I have a 64 F100, and I moved the gas tank under the back, behind the
differential. I had to cut one of the 3 crossmembers out where the spare tire
was to make the gas tank fit up in between them. I also had to trim an inch
off of the bottom lip of the rear crossmember to make the tank fit right. I
took a tank out of a 77-78 granada. It only set me back 50 bucks, and worked
without ant major modifications. Since I moved the tank under the back, I
have plenty of room for speakers behind the seat. I have 2 10" sonys in a box,
and 2 pioneer 6x9s. I also had a friend make me a custom wood console for the
front which holds a sony stereo/cass. and 2 jensen 6" rounds in the sides. I
was lucky enough to get all these stereo components from a friend who didn't
"need them anymore" but he's got money to throw around so I'm not complaining.
One thing about putting the speakers behind the seat, is the seatt muffles ths
sound a little bit, especially when moved all the way back.

hope this helps.

Keep it Ford Blue,
Scott Loechel

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:09:44 EST
From: Firrer
Subject: Re: dodge rods into ford 460?

heck i dont know,but u can change the stroke on the crank by grinding the
throws
but the journals will be undersize maybe it matches the dodge rods dont know
but
want to find out i have a old 460 and a crank that needs turned and a pair of
429
dove a heads that have been cc ed to add 10cc to the chamber so they will run
with pump gas just want to through the darn thing together just to see what it
does
mike

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 21:43:29 -0800
From: mikepacheco juno.com (MIKE PACHECO)
Subject: Re: Posi rear

THANKS, I MUST BE BRAIN DEAD, DON'T REMEMBER LIKE I USED TO...

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 22:28:11 -0800
From: leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)
Subject: : Bout that carb!

Hey Don here's a little more on that holley-motorcraft carb. The one that
I'm partial to is off an "85" 460 the part no. is E5HE-9510-MC the LIst
no. is50262-2. It has a two stage power valve along with the boosters
that I spoke of prior.The both aid in more precise fuel metering.
see ya Mark
>------------------------------
>
>
>Hey Mark do you think you could fill us in with some more carb
>details.
>As a person running an FE and was just in the market for a new carb ;)
>in the 600c.f.m. range even, I could use a little more information,
>like P#'s.
>
>Thanks
>- --
>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>
>
>63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44,
>power
>steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!
>

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 22:44:20 -0800
From: leadmic juno.com (Mark L Williams)
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #395

Here's a good cam for any FE it's a Crane 260 it has split lift and
duration. The advertized working R.P.M. is 1500-4000. I have one and am
very happy with it. It works very well in a 4x4 or heavy pickup.
hopes this helps Mark

>From: "J. A. Knapper"
>Subject: 1968 F100 driveline modifications.
>
>Can anyone give me the specs on an RV cam? I've had it mentioned to me
>a
>couple of times as being a good cam to use in an FE engine. I'm
>building
>a 390 for my 68 F100, the parts I've got so far are: 390 block(bored
>out
>.030), stock 390 crank and rods, GT 390 heads and intake, and a 5.8L
>HO
>holley 4bbl. I plan to use headers, the truck already has dual
>exhaust.

>
>Jim Knapper
>1968 F100
>various other Ford bits
>(too many my wife says)
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:01:26 -0800
From: Tom Shay
Subject: 1963 4X4

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>
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 05:08:18 -0800
> From: Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)
> Subject: FS: '63 4x4 Sacramento area
>
> Spotted this one in a freebie car rag
> and thought it rare enough to pass
> on to this group -
>
> 1963 1/2 ton Ford 4X4. Very clean & orig., very good
> mechanically, 289 V-8, 4-spd., 389 gears. $3500
> 530-533-4121, 532-0189
>
> Picture shows a '64 truck, raised a little with a small
> camper on it, looks to be in great shape. Looks to
> be a long bed.
>
> Did Ford offer a 4X4 in '63, or is this cobbled together?

Ford offered 4X4s at least as far back as 1959. I'm sure of
this because Dad had a '59. His had a 223 cid 6 engine. I'm
almost certain that the only V-8 offered in 1963 or 1964 was
292 cid and that they never offered a 289 in a pickup.

Tom Shay '78 F-100, '78 E-250, '79 Bronco, '83 Ranger

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 00:40:52 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: ADMIN: small truck list and web pics

What a joke the pirate's web page is! It would appear that he has never
heard of "Spell Checker"! I also wonder if he got permission from Ford
to use the Ford logos! Why would you show a truck you didn't work on and
then say if I did work on it that is what it would look like! ( IQ=4.5 )


Any hackers out there who could fix his site for him? ( JUST a joke! )

Enough ranting!

Dana

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:01:26 -0800
From: Tom Shay
Subject: 1963 4X4

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>
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 05:08:18 -0800
> From: Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)
> Subject: FS: '63 4x4 Sacramento area
>
> Spotted this one in a freebie car rag
> and thought it rare enough to pass
> on to this group -
>
> 1963 1/2 ton Ford 4X4. Very clean & orig., very good
> mechanically, 289 V-8, 4-spd., 389 gears. $3500
> 530-533-4121, 532-0189
>
> Picture shows a '64 truck, raised a little with a small
> camper on it, looks to be in great shape. Looks to
> be a long bed.
>
> Did Ford offer a 4X4 in '63, or is this cobbled together?

Ford offered 4X4s at least as far back as 1959. I'm sure of
this because Dad had a '59. His had a 223 cid 6 engine. I'm
almost certain that the only V-8 offered in 1963 or 1964 was
292 cid and that they never offered a 289 in a pickup.

Tom Shay '78 F-100, '78 E-250, '79 Bronco, '83 Ranger

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 05:38:54 EST
From: CAT LN7
Subject: RE:carb heat;front coil springs for 76

On Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:21:49 ,you wrote

>My 76 F-250 360 is missing the hot-air tube coming up from the exhaust
>manifold to the air cleaner. A set of headers replaced the manifold and
>I guess all that good stuff was tossed out with the original manifold
>(I'm a SAVER so it wasn't me!). Anybody have any ideas how to get the
>carb warmed up before starting? I have trouble keeping it running until
>the engine is warm.
>Also, the front end is sagging and I'd like to replace the coil springs.
>Whitney has springs on sale for $43.95/pair. Any comments on Whitney....


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