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fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, December 18 1997 Volume 01 : Number 391



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In this issue:

Re: Tie Rods? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Turn Signals ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: More about my noises!! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Ballast Resistor location ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Aussie D-series [Mark Barry ]
thanks group [jniolon uss.com]
Re: thanks group ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: thanks group ["Deacon" ]
Re: Motorcraft Carbs [John MacNamara ]
Re: Turn Signals [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Turn Signals ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Tie Rods? [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Ballast resistor, again. ["MICHAEL THOMAS" ]
RE: Aussie D-series f-series picts [Sleddog ]
Stuff for Sale... [shoman p3.net]
ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco 2/Explorer list vote [Ken Payne
Re: ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco 2/Explorer list vote [ECampb5214
RE: Turn Signals [DC Beatty ]
Noises [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Noises [shoman p3.net]
Re: Aussie D-series [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: thanks group [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Ballast resistor, again. [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Noises [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: thanks group ["Deacon" ]
Re: Ballast resistor, again. ["Deacon" ]

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:41:50 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Tie Rods?

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:20:54 -0800
> Subject: Re: Tie Rods?

> > The original poster said he noticed the problem after going over
> > some heavy duty bumps. I went bahaing a few months ago in deep
> > south Texas. The right front hit hard enough to knock a plate
> > loose in the battery and practically destroy the bump stop.
>
> Could it be that simple, right there in front of us? missing bump
> stops?

With only 1.5 - 2" of compression travel on most of these old ford
trucks that's a real possibility. Another that comes to me is the
floor or other body panels flexing and "Poping" like a bend hand saw.
The body mounts are designed to move to take up flex in the frame etc
but as they age they get brittle and things start to creak and groan
so it could be any of or many of several things :-)

A guy once asked me to eliminate an anoying squeak and I tried but
how do you isolate and locate the squeak from inside the vehicle when
it only happens under certain conditions? Once under the vehicle to
look around you can't reproduce that squeak to save your life :-( I
put rubber every where metal came together and it still squeaked :-(

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:10:17 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Turn Signals

> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:06:01 -0800
> From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
> Subject: Re: Turn Signals

> >Ok, here's one for ya. My turn signals quit quite suddenly and it
> >appears as though a fuse may have blown but I can't find any bad
> >ones and the brake lights and hazzards work as expected??

> I'm doing this without wiring diagrams so I am not 100% sure that
> the wire in the column switch is hot, only 99%. I could be wrong,
> and anticipate major flames if I in fact am.

Well, here's what I did last night. Spent about 2 hours getting the
wheel off. I think I may have a ballooned carotid (spelled it right
out of the box!) artery after attempting to pull it off in my normal
manner, where's Dave when you need him?? Made a quick puller and
realized there weren't enough threads to do what I planned, threw
that away and grabbed my damper puller with bent shaft (who the heck
used that last anyway!!?) and there was just enough room to get the
pull bolts in but the threads were bad so I grabbed one of my 3/8
taps and went to work, broke 3 taps!! 3/8 Taps?? I've never broken
a 3/8 tap! You have to be a gorilla to break a 3/8 tap! Apparently
someone re-taped the holes from 1/4 or 5/16 to 3/8 and didn't get it
straight so I was trying to straighten it out a bit while I cleaned
them up but must have eaten too many wheaties or something? :-(

Finally got it off and the switch looks like it should work?? Dang!
Before I took it apart I checked the front and rear bulbs with
hazzards and they all work, brake lights and horn work too so the
wiring to the switch is good with one possible exception, the flasher
circuit. Your post got me thinking about that so I'll check it out
tonight but I'm going to get a switch anyway if I can find one. Auto
Zone can't even order one for me, Uhh Ohhhh :-( Hope somebody else
can still get them :-) Haven't called ford yet but I doubt if they
still handle it :-(

Anyway that's where I'm at on it so far, wife is getting a little
worried about not having a car :-( Maybe I'll have to get another
78/79 for a spare just in case I have to work on one :-) My wife
said "IN YOUR DREAMS!!!"

What did she mean? :-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:18:48 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: More about my noises!!

> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:57:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
> Subject: More about my noises!!

> rotted out. The noise always comes from the same spot, but in
> varying intensities. It's always from the front right tire, maybe
> where the tie rods connect to the wheels... :) I'm going to check

My 78 2wd Pu has a noise and thump or clunk when I apply the brakes
under most conditions. I can't find anything loose either so I just
keep driving it hoping it will show itself before I hit something.
With a 460 in there you tend to hit things pretty hard :-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:52:44 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Ballast Resistor location

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:14:26 -0800
> Subject: Re: Ballast Resistor location

> Someone replied that Durasparks do not have resister wires, not quit
> true, Duraspark I doesn't have a resister wire but duraspark II
> does.

I got so busy with my turn signals last night I forgot to look but
one of my 78's has one, either the bronco or the PU. I'll try to
look tonight, again :-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:41:49 +1000
From: Mark Barry
Subject: Aussie D-series

>From: danadeb pacbell.net
>To: Mark Barry
>
>The pictures look as you described and as someone posted on the list
>Isuzus ( I hope I spelled it correctly ) etc. have the market covered
>in that type and size truck.
>
>Dana

Hi Dana, mblazek & RL
Hope all of you got the pics, I also posted the same to the list service
but it got rejected because of the color JPG. I may try again with just
a GIF attachment but I'll wait untill I'm advised that this is OK to do.
So I gather that my Ford is foreign to you all in U.S. I am surprised
that there is nothing similar to the D-series (by Ford) in the U.S.
Or maybe some one can elaborate on what a 78-79 F-series looks like?
Re; Isuzu, they and all the other Japanese manufacurers have similar models
here in Australia, but are regarded as a bit of a joke due to their narrow
chassis. Fitted with a van or truck body they look and handle like top-heavy
giant snails. The only other truly similar model to the D-series here is
the 1970's Bedford. Extremly similar, Do you have Bedfords in U.S.?
Or is this another English import?

Mark.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: thanks group

I've posted this on the old truck list but the same applies to you
guys

I've just finished wading through several digests (on another list) of
"Ford" comments, opinions, diatribes, episitles, flames, burnouts,
epithets and a generous helping of b.s. All over the definition of
blowers...and associated attitudes about them.
and then all the apologies for the flames, names and games they all
played.....Whew !!!

Thanks guys for keeping the bullsh*t factor on this list tolerable

john

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:42:47 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: thanks group

> From: jniolon uss.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:24 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: thanks group

> and then all the apologies for the flames, names and games
> they all
> played.....Whew !!!
>
> Thanks guys for keeping the bullsh*t factor on this list
> tolerable

Deacon, is he picking on us?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:59:22 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: thanks group

>> From: jniolon uss.com
>> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:24 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: thanks group
>
>> and then all the apologies for the flames, names and games
>> they all
>> played.....Whew !!!
>>
>> Thanks guys for keeping the bullsh*t factor on this list
>> tolerable
>
>Deacon, is he picking on us?
>
>Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

He must be talking about Dana or dopie the parts chimp (Who by the way,
should be looking up your turn signal part number). Cause no one calls us
tolerable to our face and gets away with it! Our bullsh*t factor is well
above (or below. Just depends on how you look at it) tolerable.

Sorry about the flame, I didn't mean to call names. I was just
playing.... Hey wait just a dog gone... Is he ...:)



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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:30:36 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Motorcraft Carbs

Dale and Donna Carmine wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> Who can tell me what the difference is between a motorcraft 2150 and the
> 2100???

Dale: Don't know the answer to this exactly but suspect the 2150 has a
removable float bowl which can leak and the 2100 does not.

> What is the basis for Pony Carburetor to claim that the "2100 is the finest
> 2-bbl ever made"?

Dale: Since no one has responded to your question, I will take a stab. The
superiority comes from the ability of the 2100/4100 carbs to atomize the fuel
closer to the vapor state than any other carb. The closer you get to the vapor
state, the better the power and consquently the mileage. Can't vouch for this
claim but this is according to an article written in the January 1996 Mustang
Monthly.

Thanks
John MacNamara

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette

>
>
> later,
> Dale Carmine
> '79 F-150 351M
> York, Nebraska
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:54:01 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Turn Signals

My wife
>said "IN YOUR DREAMS!!!"
>
>What did she mean? :-)
>

Gary,

She meant that if you think that you're going to work on your second bronco,
you're dreaming. At least that's the spin I would put on it.

And about the turn signals: I didn't see the words "test light" in your
post anywhere...Remember: path of least resistance (no pun intended) first!!


marko in vancouver ;^0

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:01:32 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Turn Signals

> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:54:01 -0800
> From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
> Subject: Re: Turn Signals

> And about the turn signals: I didn't see the words "test light" in
> your post anywhere...Remember: path of least resistance (no pun
> intended) first!!

Ahhhhh! Personally I think the coolest way to get spare parts for a
bronco is to buy another bronco and maybe even another one
and..............

Just sent a query to Tom's bronco parts but the last few I've sent to
comercial interests have been returned for some reason. Don't know
why exactly? The message is so full of unix stuff I get eye tied :-(

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:59:46 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Tie Rods?

>I had a problem on my 71 250 with rattling, it was the fender. Just in
front of the door, kind of by the cab mount, at the very bottom lip of the
fender, is a body bolt and a clip. I have had two of these bolts just fall
out, dunno why but they do. So I went to Home Depot and bought a new body
bolt and captive nut and it don't rattle no more.


Check that one out.

There was some jingling on my truck too and I figured out it was the grill.


marko in vancouver 8^0
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4
67 merc m100

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:28:35 -0500
From: "MICHAEL THOMAS"
Subject: Ballast resistor, again.

I'll handle this for my buddy, Bruce.

He has a Durasprk II on a '78 F150 w/ the 400.
He figures the ballast resistor, or resistance wiring is bad because
the coil tends to get fairly hot after running for about 15-20
minutes. I tend to think the same.

We tried to run a straight 12v off the module source from the key
switch and it did'nt help.

We need the help!!!!


M. Dustin Thomas
mdthomas nc.edu
KB9OGG

'77 F150 Ranger 400 cubes
'91 G*C Sonoma 4-popper

Never enough time to do it
right at first, but plenty
of time to do it over.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:24:18 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Aussie D-series f-series picts

check out the pictures on the wed site for the f series trucks. . . .

could someone send me the d series jpeg?

sleddog


Or maybe some one can elaborate on what a 78-79 F-series looks like?

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:14:12 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Stuff for Sale...

I have the followiing parts I'm clearing out....
Four Mickey thompson 39x15x15 on 8 lug ford wheels(tires have 70% tred)
Plus 2 40" Gumbo Mudders asking $500 or best offer
Steering column from a 67-72 f series $50
1970 Grill complete not perfect $75
1967-72-- F-250 Complete power steering setup(slave type)$300
Email me if interested
- --
Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"
1969 F-250 4x4 390 NP435 "Undecided Future"

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:26:48 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco 2/Explorer list vote

The web site vote is complete.

Issue: Should we form a 4th list for Ranger/Explorer/Bronco 2
owners?

Yes No Don't Care
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39 10 1

New list will be up sometime around the middle of next week.
Here we grow again! BTW, we've had over 20,000 visitors to
the site in the past 4 weeks.

If you have any issues or items, bring it to my attention
(kpayne mindspring.com). If its feasible, economical and
has a possible audience it may end up on the voting page.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:18:57 EST
From: ECampb5214
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco 2/Explorer list vote

yes

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:33:06 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: Turn Signals

Gary. Mine quit once and, after replacing the flasher to no avail, I
jiggled the wires that run down along the column. They came back. Obvious=
ly
I have a short somewhere but it's been working for months after my "fix."=
=


Hope this helps.

DC Beatty
1967 F100 352
1974 Maverick 302
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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 10:45 AM
To: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: Turn Signals

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 07:23:53 -0800
> Subject: Re: Turn Signals

> Are they on steady when the turn signal is on or are they off?

They're dead like a blown fuse but the fuses all look good. I'm =

going to pull the wheel tonight and short some stuff to see where the =

problem is. Didn't think to check the front lights when the hazzards =

were on to verify bulbs but will tonight, I think they were working =

so that only leaves the switch or connections. Just thought I'd =

throw it out in case someone had some unique insight I hadn't thought =

of yet :-)

Wonder how Kym's steering wheel is coming along? Last post didn't =

sound too good :-(

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --



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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:42:16 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Noises

I have two noises, I also, can't figure out.

1) Drive along and come to a stop. sit at the stop light, then gust as I
start to accelerate ( fairly easily on the throttle ) there is a "thud"
It can be heard but mostly felt. The u-joints are new the rear and is
newly rebuilt the engine mounts are real good. The only two things I can
think of is the trans mount and the drive shaft center bearing. The
trans mount looks cracked but when I lift up on the tail piece it
doesn't seem to move. The rubber that the center bearing is mounted in
can move in the metal clamp that holds it in place and I figured that
the drive shaft might be winding up when I come to a stop and when I
release the break it unwinds and the bearing support moves and makes the
"thud".

What do you all think?

2) Drive along and come to a stop. sit at the stop light, then gust as I
start to accelerate ( medium to hard ) I hear a metallic ripping sound.
( like a bolt threads being pulled through sheet metal ) Sometimes I
hear the same sound when I just push back on the seat but not as loud or
as pronounced.

What about this one?

Thanks

Dana

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:52:06 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Re: Noises

danadeb pacbell.net wrote:
>
> I have two noises, I also, can't figure out.
>
> 1) Drive along and come to a stop. sit at the stop light, then gust as I
> start to accelerate ( fairly easily on the throttle ) there is a "thud"
> It can be heard but mostly felt. The u-joints are new the rear and is
> newly rebuilt the engine mounts are real good. The only two things I can
> think of is the trans mount and the drive shaft center bearing. The
> trans mount looks cracked but when I lift up on the tail piece it
> doesn't seem to move. The rubber that the center bearing is mounted in
> can move in the metal clamp that holds it in place and I figured that
> the drive shaft might be winding up when I come to a stop and when I
> release the break it unwinds and the bearing support moves and makes the
> "thud".
>
> What do you all think?
>
> 2) Drive along and come to a stop. sit at the stop light, then gust as I
> start to accelerate ( medium to hard ) I hear a metallic ripping sound.
> ( like a bolt threads being pulled through sheet metal ) Sometimes I
> hear the same sound when I just push back on the seat but not as loud or
> as pronounced.
>
> What about this one?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dana
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my 68 had the thud noise You mention..I changed the driveshaft carrier
bearing(had to have it pressed off and on)and the thud went away..

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Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"
1969 F-250 4x4 390 NP435 "Undecided Future"

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:21:39 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Aussie D-series

F-series are the standard full-size pickups ( I hate to refer to this
and I sure hope you know what I am referring to, but....... like the
ones they used in Road Worrier, the one that the big, masked, bald guy
was always standing up in the back of! )

I really want a right hand drive F-series ( let's see $1500 for the
truck,$???????for shipping, $?????? for import taxes ) probably cost
prohibitive!:(

Your right this list does not talk much about big trucks.

Dana

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:25:58 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: thanks group

But where was the truck content?

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:36:51 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Ballast resistor, again.

To test if the resistor wire is bad start the engine and measure the
voltage from the + side of the coil to ground, it should be 6-8 volts.
If it is 12 volts remove the wire from the starter relay that goes to
the coil and check again. still 12 volts, something is wrong, if it is
6-8 than something is wrong in the starter relay I suspect.

Hope it helps

Dana

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:41:00 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Noises

Thanks!

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:25:27 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: thanks group

>But where was the truck content?

Same place you put it Dana!
He who is without sin, cast the first stone. Hey, no stones in my hands Bro!
I'm just answering your question. :)



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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:46:20 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Ballast resistor, again.

>He has a Durasprk II on a '78 F150 w/ the 400.
>He figures the ballast resistor, or resistance wiring is bad because....


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