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fordtrucks61-79-digest Tuesday, December 16 1997 Volume 01 : Number 389



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In this issue:

Re: Trailer-Hitches ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
D-series & Utilities [Mark Barry ]
RE: Trailer-Hitches [Sleddog ]
Re: D-series & Utilities [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re Trailer-Hitches ["Hogan, Tom" ]
4100 carb [Stuart Varner ]
Re: D-series & Utilities ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Trailer hitches [BULL229 ]
Re: 66 Power steering pump ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dana 44 ball joints ["Deacon" ]
Re: Dana 44 ball joints ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Tie Rods? ["Daniel H. Jenkins" ]
Test [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: Tie Rods? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: D-series & Utilities [mcat epix.net]
Re: Motorcraft Carbs ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: Tie Rods? ["Daniel H. Jenkins" ]
Re: 66 Power steering pump [Don Grossman ]
Re: Dana 44 ball joints [Don Grossman ]
Re: Tie Rods? [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Tie Rods? ["Daniel H. Jenkins" ]
Re: D-series & Utilities [Mike Blazek ]
Re: Tie Rods? [danadeb pacbell.net]

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:06:44 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Trailer-Hitches

> From: "mei home.com"
> Subject: Trailer-Hitches
> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:13:06 -0000

> Why bolt and not weld isn't welding stronger or does it weaken the
> frame inquiring minds need to know thanks

Bolting is almost always better due to the fact is allows the frame
to flex in it's designed fashion. It also puts less stress on the
hitch welds for the same reason, the hitch tends to move within the
frame without bending itself. There is less likelyhood of bolts
being stress cracked and most hitch shops do not have certified
welding staff on hand to do the welding either which makes the
security of the job suspect IMHO. I'm not certified either but I
knwo what it takes to get it and trust me, most of these guys don't
know the fine points of weldment construction.

I've welded stuff simply because I can and drilling holes from an
awkward position is a pain but bolting is still better IMHO :-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:22:53 +1000
From: Mark Barry
Subject: D-series & Utilities

Hi to all you F-100 drivers, The questions in my first posting remain
unanswered, ie; do any of you know anything regarding the ford D-series
trucks?
For those of you who were interested I did define the D-series
(in my second posting, Dec 12) but when I proposed that perhaps the
D-series is a breed developed outside of the U.S. It seems I raised some
ire regarding the General Motors Holden Utility!
I quote:
>Incidentally Holden developed/invented the Utility (the Ute) which is a
>pick-up based on a car chassis.
>
>Mark.
>> I dont know about this, i always thought it was the american farmer
>>who dreamed up the truck-on-car chassis....
>>Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
>>'63 F100 Longbox
>>My grand daddy was using model A's for tractors long before I was
>>born and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had one with a flat bed
>>on it too :-) This was back in the 20's BTW, how long ago did you
>>say he "invented" it?
>>Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

I would like to elaborate that I believe Holden (Aus) invented/developed/
produced the first PRODUCTION CAR Utility.
I think we are arguing semantics here as I don't dispute that there were
model-A Ford flat-bed TRUCKS well before 1950. I also understand that
many good old boys were probably using the blue-flame-wrench to modify
cars into utilities. But in my books a popular modification is not a
production car! I also believe any Cab-Chassis vehicle would normally
be regarded as a truck. The point I was making is that; just as General
Motors Holden developed a range of cars in Austalia, then pehaps British
Ford or Ford Australia? developed the D-series truck range. Once again I
ask, does anyone know?
Mark
P.S.
Let's be clear about my definition of a utility, the tray is an integral
part of the whole car body and therefor the cab is not separate.
P.P.S I don't know if a 78-79 F-series Ford looks like a D-series.
- --
*************************************************
Mark BarryMob. Phone:041 999 3966
B. S. Sound Phone:03 9531 1403
P. A. Hire (Aus) Fax:03 9531 2688
Web-site http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bssound.com.au
New emailmark bssound.com.au
Also still atbssound ozemail.com.au
*************************************************

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:04:41 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Trailer-Hitches

my personal opinion is that bolting is better. i use a receiver hitch with
a flat plate on my pull truck for the sled's chain to hook too also, and it
is bolted. my "tow" truck - same thing. i have found that it is easier
to bolt and just as strong - plus i don't like welding onto the frame
anything i don't have to. welding tends to distort things a bit, mistakes
are worse when lining up the parts, and it is too "permanant". bolting
(grade 8 or better) is strong enough and replaceable/servicable. on no
truck have i ever had a problem related to bolting, or any problem really,
and i am very close to 17,000 gvw or more when going to a truck pull. the
pullttruck pulls the sled hard, and the sled is #35,000 or more (that is
what i was told at least.)

bolting also allows some movement of the frame (flexxing) that welding
tries to limit - ceating higher stress concentrations.

so, for me, bolting works and welding is a waste of time. and if welding
is done wrong, it can weaken the frame. done right, there is not really a
problem. just watch out for the fual tank, wiring, etc.

sleddog

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Sent: Friday, December 12, 1997 4:13 PM
To: 'fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net'
Subject: Trailer-Hitches

Why bolt and not weld isn't welding stronger or does it weaken the frame
inquiring minds need to know
thanks







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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:45:19 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: D-series & Utilities

Where's the gif, jpg etc?

danadeb pacbell.net

Thanks

Dana

PS. Don't mind the "good old boys" on the list they don't mean any harm!

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:41:39 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: Re Trailer-Hitches

Yes, It will weaken the frame. As I remember the Ford truck frame is
made of a spring steel to allow it to flex as it goes over bumps etc.
Welding to the frame will create stresses in the metal at the weld and
weaken it there. Having said that I have seen some welders attaching
brackets to large (18 wheel) truck frames. They recommended that if you
had to weld to a frame to weld parallel to the frame at the top or
bottom. NEVER weld perpendicular to the frame from top to bottom. All
the hitches I have seen are set up as bolt on any way.



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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:13:06 -0000
From: "mei home.com"
Subject: Trailer-Hitches

Why bolt and not weld isn't welding stronger or does it weaken the frame
inquiring minds need to know
thanks

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:09:41 -0800
From: Stuart Varner
Subject: 4100 carb

Someone mentioned a few weeks ago about having 2 4100 carbs for sale....
anyone have one or know who it was that had the cores sitting around.
If I am really lucky maybe one of them will have a build date of 1965
or 1966......IMHO, the two best years for 4100's. Private email ok.
Nuke GM! STU

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:32:21 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: D-series & Utilities

> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:22:53 +1000
> From: Mark Barry
> Subject: D-series & Utilities

> define the D-series (in my second posting, Dec 12) but when I
> proposed that perhaps the D-series is a breed developed outside of
> the U.S. It seems I raised some ire regarding the General Motors
> Holden Utility! I quote: >Incidentally Holden developed/invented the

I don't know about the others but I was just kidding! :-) From your
description it almost sounds like the old van/pickup we had or maybe
it was called the econoline pickup?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:46:23 EST
From: BULL229
Subject: Re: Trailer hitches

You should always bolt on in my opinion. If something bad happens, the bolts
will shear and not bend the frame.

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:41:32 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 66 Power steering pump

> From: "Brian Forbes"
> Subject: 66 Power steering pump
> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:12:56 -0600

> I need some help. I'm planning to install a power steering gear box
> in my 66. I already know about shortening the steering column. The
> problem I've got is, what type of pump do I need. Will a pump off
> another model Ford, ie. Mustang, fill the bill?

I haven't seen a reply to this yet so I'll just say I don't think it
matters. They all pretty much put out around 1500 psi. Just make
sure the hoses will bolt up :-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:07:18 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Dana 44 ball joints

>Another thought I've had, seriously, for parking brake, not emergency

I have a theory on the term "emergency brake". When braking systems went
from mechanical to hydraulic, Salesmen would tell flat earth people, that
the mechanical parking was there encase of hydraulic failure. Or was it
called an emergency brake at one time?
Because most parking brakes use the rear wheels, makes a parking brake
dangerous in an emergency. Once back when I was a teen, a friend and I got a
hold of this van that didn't run. We worked on it and got it running then
decided to take it out for a spin. Typical youthful thinking, get it to go
and don't think of how to stop it. The parking brake made us loose control
(see next paragragh) Luckily it was a field a tree and a short wall that
stopped us and not people. Well that ended any aspirations of us having a
van.
Another youthful "only because we're immortal" trick we did with our
parking brake was bend the brake release so the parking brake wouldn't lock
down. Then we could do those nifty 180 deg turns by locking the back brakes
and giving the wheel a little turn. Locking the back brakes doesn't stop
you, as a matter of fact, the rear end will start going faster than the
front.


>is one of those theft proof dodads that lock your hyeraulic brakes.
>Only problem I see with that is if the wheel cylinders bleed down
>over night


I've seen the ones used on some forklifts. They seem to hold pretty
good. You push down the brake peddle and pull out the lever. The next time
you step on the peddle the valve releases. I've thought about one of those.
I don't use my parking brake because I forget to release it. Then I smoke
the rear brakes. That couldn't happen with one of those.
I had a motor home that had the parking brake on the driveline. It
looked like a transmission band. When you pulled up on the brake handle it
would clamp on the driveline. Worked good until I smoked the band. :)

>Course that still doesn't give me "emergency" stopping power??

No worries Bro! Remember, you can't stop anyway. :~)

>I often get behind cars going so slow I just can't stand it and blurt
>out "watch out for falling anchors!" implying that to go any slower
>he would have to toss out an anchor. Need I say more?

Why is it they risk their lives with some Dukes of Hazard move from a
parking lot to get in front of me just to go 25 mph, when they could have
waited and came out at 25 mph after I passed. I do the Dukes of Hazard move
from a parking lot, I just don't slow down after that.
Later!


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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:43:17 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Dana 44 ball joints

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: Dana 44 ball joints
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:07:18 -0800

> Because most parking brakes use the rear wheels, makes a parking
> brake
> dangerous in an emergency. Once back when I was a teen, a friend and

I've relied on them more than once to stop me and had no problems
except that they really aren't designed to stop a moving vehicle with
any efficiency but they will eventually stop you. Trick with
newfangled vehicles with the foot lever is you got to hold the pull
handle out while doing it or lock up the rear end and not be able to
unlock it. If you hold the release out it acts like a foot brake but
in a few years I won't have enough dexterity to put my foot on the
pedal and hold the release at the same time :-)

> I've seen the ones used on some forklifts. They seem to hold
> pretty
> good. You push down the brake peddle and pull out the lever. The
> next time you step on the peddle the valve releases. I've thought

I've seen them on large trucks, dump trucks I think but they usually
only rely on them for temporary parking assistance etc..

> looked like a transmission band. When you pulled up on the brake
> handle it would clamp on the driveline. Worked good until I smoked
> the band. :)

Military trucks had those back in the 60's and we caught one on fire
that way. Burned the tarp off the back of the bed before we could
find a fire extinguisher :-)

Actually the emergency part is built into the dual resivoir master
cylinders now days but I think the law still requires a manual brake
of some kind so a tranny brake may be the only solution unless you
are lucky enough to find an OEM setup like the 78 lincolns for 9"
fords.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:59:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
Subject: Tie Rods?

I just got done replacing my front shocks in an attempt to remedy
the noises coming from my front, right tire when I go over bumps (Lots of
potholes here in Reno! :)) Anyway, it still isn't fixed. My steering
wheel does have a lot of free play, but the wheels, in my opinion, don't
move excessively when I jack up the vehicle and grasp them. Is it my tie
rods? It seems to me that the wheels not moving excessively would
eliminate the tie rods... ANy ideas? Thanks.

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel H. JenkinsFood for thought: John Milton
djenkins honors.unr.eduwrote _Paradise_Lost_; When his
Honors Programwife died he wrote _Paradise_
University of Nevada, Reno_Regained_...

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:07:43 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Test

Got kicked off the Co. mailing network. Just wanted to check and see
if I was still in good standing or had been BOOTED off. Just got back
on. Reply directly please.
AM14 Chrylser.com

Azie

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:14:09 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Tie Rods?

> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:59:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
> Subject: Tie Rods?

> I just got done replacing my front shocks in an attempt to remedy
> the noises coming from my front, right tire when I go over bumps
> (Lots of potholes here in Reno! :)) Anyway, it still isn't fixed.

Is it two wheel or four wheel drive? In any case it could be wheel
bearings, king pins, spring clamps or bolts radius arm bushings,
antisway bar attachments etc.. Tell us more about your truck?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 97 17:55:53 PST
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: D-series & Utilities

Mark,
I think the D-series is unique to your neck of the woods.I
remeber seeing a Duran duran video several yrs back and they had a rhd
F100 in it, At first I thought the film was reverced but after looking at
it a couple of times it was a rhd. You could read the hood emblems and
they were on right. The truck was a67-72. Dont remeber the yr for sure.
Garry
- --- On Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:22:53 +1000 Mark Barry
wrote:

>Hi to all you F-100 drivers, The questions in my first posting remain
>unanswered, ie; do any of you know anything regarding the ford D-series
>trucks?
>For those of you who were interested I did define the D-series
>(in my second posting, Dec 12) but when I proposed that perhaps the
>D-series is a breed developed outside of the U.S. It seems I raised some
>ire regarding the General Motors Holden Utility!
>I quote:
>>Incidentally Holden developed/invented the Utility (the Ute) which is a
>>pick-up based on a car chassis.
>>
>>Mark.
>>> I dont know about this, i always thought it was the american farmer
>>>who dreamed up the truck-on-car chassis....
>>>Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
>>>'63 F100 Longbox
>>>My grand daddy was using model A's for tractors long before I was
>>>born and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had one with a flat bed
>>>on it too :-) This was back in the 20's BTW, how long ago did you
>>>say he "invented" it?
>>>Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --
>
>I would like to elaborate that I believe Holden (Aus) invented/developed/
>produced the first PRODUCTION CAR Utility.
>I think we are arguing semantics here as I don't dispute that there were
>model-A Ford flat-bed TRUCKS well before 1950. I also understand that
>many good old boys were probably using the blue-flame-wrench to modify
>cars into utilities. But in my books a popular modification is not a
>production car! I also believe any Cab-Chassis vehicle would normally
>be regarded as a truck. The point I was making is that; just as General
>Motors Holden developed a range of cars in Austalia, then pehaps British
>Ford or Ford Australia? developed the D-series truck range. Once again I
>ask, does anyone know?
>Mark
>P.S.
>Let's be clear about my definition of a utility, the tray is an integral
>part of the whole car body and therefor the cab is not separate.
>P.P.S I don't know if a 78-79 F-series Ford looks like a D-series.
>--
>*************************************************
>Mark BarryMob. Phone:041 999 3966
>B. S. Sound Phone:03 9531 1403
>P. A. Hire (Aus) Fax:03 9531 2688
> Web-site http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bssound.com.au
> New emailmark bssound.com.au
>Also still atbssound ozemail.com.au
>*************************************************
>
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- -----------------End of Original Message-----------------


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 12/15/97 Time: 5:55:53 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:41:14 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Motorcraft Carbs

Hi list,

Who can tell me what the difference is between a motorcraft 2150 and the
2100???
What is the basis for Pony Carburetor to claim that the "2100 is the finest
2-bbl ever made"?

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M
York, Nebraska

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:45:18 -0800 (PST)
From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
Subject: Re: Tie Rods?

OK, some more information about by truck: It's a 1977 F150 Super
Cab. It's two wheel drive. The wheel bearing were just recently
professinally repacked, so I truly doubt that is it. The mechanic who did
them is one of the best and most reputable in the area. I did manage to
chew up the unerside of my truck one night on some BIG rocks, but the
truck juts recently started making the noises, so I doubt that's it. Hope
all this info helps! Thanks.

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel H. JenkinsFood for thought: John Milton
djenkins honors.unr.eduwrote _Paradise_Lost_; When his
Honors Programwife died he wrote _Paradise_
University of Nevada, Reno_Regained_...

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:24:29 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 66 Power steering pump

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
> > From: "Brian Forbes"
> > Subject: 66 Power steering pump
> > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:12:56 -0600
>
> > I need some help. I'm planning to install a power steering gear box
> > in my 66. I already know about shortening the steering column. The
> > problem I've got is, what type of pump do I need. Will a pump off
> > another model Ford, ie. Mustang, fill the bill?
>
> I haven't seen a reply to this yet so I'll just say I don't think it
> matters. They all pretty much put out around 1500 psi. Just make
> sure the hoses will bolt up :-)
>
> Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --

What motor does the 66 have in it? You should be able to find factoy
brackets for your engine application. If you already have the box
great!

Any of the Ford pumps will drive the box.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:32:35 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Dana 44 ball joints

Deacon wrote:
>
> >Another thought I've had, seriously, for parking brake, not emergency
big SNIP..
>
> >is one of those theft proof dodads that lock your hyeraulic brakes.
> >Only problem I see with that is if the wheel cylinders bleed down
> >over night
>
> I've seen the ones used on some forklifts. They seem to hold pretty
> good. You push down the brake peddle and pull out the lever. The next time
> you step on the peddle the valve releases. I've thought about one of those.
> I don't use my parking brake because I forget to release it. Then I smoke
> the rear brakes. That couldn't happen with one of those.
> I had a motor home that had the parking brake on the driveline. It
> looked like a transmission band. When you pulled up on the brake handle it
> would clamp on the driveline. Worked good until I smoked the band. :)

Hey Deacon, that little dodad is a Micro-Lock. I have one on the front
brake of my truck. I works great for smok'n them tires. I pull the
vaulve and step on the brake and the truck goes nowhere. It wont help
if the brake seals are gone or no fluid is present and is not intended
for parking. It could leak down over time. It is great for temporary
holding power for loading a trailer or wenching someone out of a ditch.
*g*

> >Course that still doesn't give me "emergency" stopping power??
>
> No worries Bro! Remember, you can't stop anyway. :~)
>
> >I often get behind cars going so slow I just can't stand it and blurt
> >out "watch out for falling anchors!" implying that to go any slower
> >he would have to toss out an anchor. Need I say more?
>
> Why is it they risk their lives with some Dukes of Hazard move from a
> parking lot to get in front of me just to go 25 mph, when they could have
> waited and came out at 25 mph after I passed. I do the Dukes of Hazard move
> from a parking lot, I just don't slow down after that.
> Later!

Did we go to the same driving school, Cracker Jack?
> Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
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- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:52:23 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Tie Rods?

If the noise is a jingle sound then it's just Santa! ;)

No really, if it jingles then check the nut inside the coil spring. Mine
was loose and no matter how many times I looked at it, it seemed fine.
Then I lifted the body and let the axle hang ( or something like that
)and sure enough the hut was loose enough to allow the large washer to
move, creating the jingle! Can't tell you how many of our type trucks I
hear with the same jingle.

Hope it helps. If not describe the noise, too much info is better then
not enough!

Dana

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:14:37 -0800 (PST)
From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
Subject: Re: Tie Rods?

Well, if that is the case, how would I go about fixing it? Just
tightening the nut a bit? Hope that it... it's cheaper than putting in
new tie rods! :) Of course, I don't know that it's a jingling noise. I
would describe it more as a... I don't know how I'd describe it. I'll
get some friends to answer what the noise is like... :) I'll post more
later. Thanks.

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel H. JenkinsFood for thought: John Milton
djenkins honors.unr.eduwrote _Paradise_Lost_; When his
Honors Programwife died he wrote _Paradise_
University of Nevada, Reno_Regained_...

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:28:27 -0600
From: Mike Blazek
Subject: Re: D-series & Utilities

Hello, Mark;

Sorry about the delay in replying, but what you're describing sounds
like what we called the C series here. It seems like they built them
forever, and they were available with gas/diesel engines, single/
tandem axles, box bodies/fifth wheels, whatever..A lot of the freight
carriers around here used them for local and LTL deliveries. It seems
though, that most of the jobs you used to see them do are now being
done by Nissans, Isuzus & Hinos.. If you can forward a picture, I'll
take a look and see how they compare...

Happy
Trucking,
Mike
Blazek
Baton
Rouge, LA
'73 Ford
F-100
460
C.I.D./C6

Mark Barry wrote:....


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