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fordtrucks61-79-digest Sunday, December 7 1997 Volume 01 : Number 380



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In this issue:

Dana 44 ball joints, torques etc. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dana 44 ball joints, torques etc. [Don Grossman ]
Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!! [Firrer ]
Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!! [Don Grossman ]
ADMIN: the working mat [Ken Payne ]
Bed Cover [shoyt haleys.net (Steven Hoyt)]
Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Seats ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: Seats [ECampb5214 ]
Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!! [Firrer ]
Re: FS '64 Books [GMPACHECO ]

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 07:45:38 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Dana 44 ball joints, torques etc.

I think it was OX who asked about this so here's the skinny right
from the service manual. You pull the yoke assy up into the tapered
sockets with the bottom joint. Use what ever means necessary to get
the pin to hold while you tighten it. Ford has a puller to put
pressure on it, I just use a pry bar and some wood blocks usually if
I have trouble getting it to stay put long enough to tighten the nut.
Torque the bottom to 70 - 90 ft/lbs which is more than I would have
guessed with such a thin self locking nut.

Now you need a special spanner like the one for the wheel bearing
nuts for the split bushing to tighten it down till it seats on the
tapered pin in the top ball joint with 40 ft/lbs of torque which
again is more than I would have guessed and a lot more than I've
been doing so I guess I better get a spanner made up. It just
occured to me that all I need is a deep socket of the right outside
diameter to fit the bushing and cut the notches in it for a spanner.
Maybe I could borrow one of Tom's nice thinwall Snapon deep
sockets...............:-) I'll let you know how it turns out. I've
been using screw drivers and punches to guestmate this position.
Then tighten the castelated nut to 100 ft/lbs and continue tightening
it to the next slot for the cotter key to fit.

The hub to rotor to hub nut torque is 30 - 35 ft/lbs. All other
torques for front end are as follows:

7/16-20 = 35 - 45#
1/2-20 = 50 - 70#
5/8-18 = 100 - 120#
3/4-16 = 150 - 200#

The spindle flange nuts may be either 7/16 or 1/2" so check before
you torque them, I can't remember right now.

BTW, I see they use a neat method to remove the old ball joints with
the yoke still in the axle. They leave the bottom one tight, take
the nut off the top one and use a puller to press it out right on the
truck then they take the yoke off and use a device similar to the
dana seal insertion tool with nuts at each end of a threaded rod and
we can use sockets for the pushers etc. to push the bottom one out
using the top portion of the yoke as the anchor to push against. Why
the heck didn't I think of that???


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64 Plug Gapper, 78 PU & Bronco
97 barn, 97 compressor.........

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 09:29:39 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Dana 44 ball joints, torques etc.

I know it's more fun to make your own tools but they do make the spanner
for the adjuster sleve.

Laters
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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:28:44 EST
From: Firrer
Subject: Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

it sounds like maybe u have a power valve gone bad did the motor back fire
lately
if so that will take out the power valve also the gas milage will be very
pore like 4-5 instead of the reglar 10-12 also ckec if u have gas in the oil
mike

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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 09:37:25 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

Firrer wrote:
>
> it sounds like maybe u have a power valve gone bad did the motor back fire
> lately
> if so that will take out the power valve also the gas milage will be very
> pore like 4-5 instead of the reglar 10-12 also ckec if u have gas in the oil
> mike

Could you expand on this power valve thing? How can a back fire take it
out? Is there an improved replacement? Should I just pick up an
Edlebroke carb?

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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 12:43:33 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: the working mat

Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts:

We have a new advertiser on our web site. As we did for Macs,
we're going to make a brief announcement for 2 days. Please
show your appreciation to them for helping to support the web
site and lists by checking out their site:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/workingmat.shtml
(This is an "anchor" page that will forward you to theirs)

Arizona Working Mat Sales has a truly unique product, the
"Working Mat". It protects your pickup bed and holds cargo
in place (you've got to visit the site to view how it does this).

We would like to have them know that you heard about them via
the Ford Truck Enthusiasts group.

Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program...

Ken Payne
CoAdmin,
Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 12:45:48 -0800
From: shoyt haleys.net (Steven Hoyt)
Subject: Bed Cover

Anyone on the list know where I can pick up a bed cover to poperly fit
my '62 Unibody long bed? I like the roll top one's made by Pace, but
$700 is a little steep.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Steve
'62 F100 Unibody
292 & Ford-O-Matic

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 14:24:01 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 09:37:25 -0800
> From: Don Grossman
> Subject: Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

> Could you expand on this power valve thing? How can a back fire
> take it out? Is there an improved replacement? Should I just pick
> up an Edlebroke carb?

Power valve mitigates fuel mix under various degrees of manifold
pressure changes, mostly there, as the name implies, to enrichen the
mix under power. It has a small port to the manifold which can also
carry high pressure surges from a back fire to the diaphram in there.
I'm not sure yours has one but if it does it would cause the symptoms
you described if blown. The diaphram pulls it closed and as pressure
rises it opens.

There is a check valve kit to prevent the pressure from reaching it
and if you don't already have one and if it's not proprietary to the
OEM version carb you should get a two stage valve with 5 and 10 in/hg
stages or there abouts for best economy and performance.

If you have the bucks available tho I'd get the edelbrock and if you
have even more available I'd get a spread bore manifold (not ford
OEM, they're different) and ThermoQuad or Rochester replacements
edelbrock sells. They can be tuned easily and meter ever so much
better than any Holley at low rpms for better economy with no loss in
performance.

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64 Plug Gapper, 78 PU & Bronco
97 barn, 97 compressor (50 amp breaker)

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 14:58:17 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Seats

Gary:

Hi

Just thought I'd ask you about the adjustable seats. Are they REAL
expensive. I checked out the website and saw no prices. Before I call the
800 #, and am told that they're $2K, and given the sales pitch, I thought I
might ask you what you know about price, etc..

Thanks,

Mike

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 21:03:24 EST
From: ECampb5214
Subject: Re: Seats

Micheal I am not a seat sales man were did you get my E-mail from?

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 22:23:16 EST
From: Firrer
Subject: Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

there ya go,the answer but i like hollies

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 23:17:22 EST
From: GMPACHECO
Subject: Re: FS '64 Books....


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