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fordtrucks61-79-digest Saturday, December 6 1997 Volume 01 : Number 379



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In this issue:

Re: Weird speedo problem [shoman p3.net]
C6 trans cooler ports, which is which? ["John F. Bauer III"
Engine / Door [John Strauss ]
Steering wheels [John Strauss ]
Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!! [John MacNamara ]
'64 Door Seal Q's [Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)]
Re: C6 trans cooler ports, which is which? [John MacNamara
Door handles [am14 chrysler.com]
Rich 460 [am14 chrysler.com]
Brake adjustment question [Keith Srb ]
Re: Brake adjustment question [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Brake adjustment question ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!! ["Hogan, Tom"
Seats ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Hello [Owen Bly ]
Thanks for the Speedo help ["Daniel H. Jenkins" ]
Re: Rich 460 [Chekerdpst ]
Re: Square Headlights ["J. Oxley" ]

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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 07:26:12 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Re: Weird speedo problem

For that bouncing speedo check the plastic gear thats in the tranny,
Usually worn gears will cause it to skip or BOunce...
joe
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 07:30:01 -0500
From: "John F. Bauer III"
Subject: C6 trans cooler ports, which is which?

Group:

If anyone knows this one off the top of their head, I would apprecaite it
(also be darned impressed!):

Standing by the passenger door, kneeling down, looking at my C6 ... there is
a port to the trans cooler towards the front of the engine and one towards
the rear of the van, could someone tell me which one is the out port and
which one is the in port?

Thanks,
John

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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 08:14:18 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: Engine / Door

>Doesn't the switch that turns the inside light on when the door is
>opened furnish a ground to the lamp - not current/voltage???? How in
>the world could this effect the performance of the Ignition
>Module???????? I'm lost on this one, unless the truck(Bronco) has
>some very bad grounds throughout.

No, on Fords the door switch is "hot". I seem to remember in the mid-70s
Ford had a problem on some trucks where if you opened the door while the
engine was running it would sometimes kill the ignition module. Don't know
what the resolution was or why it did this.


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\( Texas Fight!
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 08:10:42 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: Steering wheels

>Are you absolutely sure they changed the steering wheels from '76 to
>'79. I have both, and I've never tried to interchange them, but I
>thought they were the same. I've been wrong before and I'm probably
>wrong here, but I'm kinda HARD HEADED.
>
I think it changed in 1977. I know I once tried to put a '78 wheel on my
Dad's '74 and it wouldn't work.


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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 06:15:20 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

Brett McCoy wrote:

> Now that I have your attention. My '79 F250 with a stock 460 is running way
> rich. Just put on a cat for the smog police and it smells like I am towing
> a chicken coop!! How do I adjust the mixture and get this thing leaned out!

Brett: Located in the front of the carb at the base or two adjusting screws one
for each bank of cylinders, to lean the mixture you screw these in. Located
inside the front bowl are two jets. These screw out and can be replaced with
smaller ones. I had to have my carb redone to pass smog and when they were done
it ran like # $%! To get it to pass smog you might have to have it adjusted
on the machine so that you know it passes otherwise you will have to keep
playing with it. The large nut on the top is for adjusting the height of the
float. If the float is to high it will flood out and if it's to low you could
starve the engine.

If your not mechanically inclined this is best left to the mechanic smogging the
vehicle.

Thanks
John MacNamara

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette

> Have a stock 460 with factory Holly 4bbl on it. Found the idle speed screw
> but the only other obvious adjustment seems to be float related. 9/16" nut
> with adjusting screw on top of each bowl. Any help or reference that I may
> be able to get at the library would be great.
>
> -B
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 06:20:10 -0800
From: Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)
Subject: '64 Door Seal Q's

I am in need of replacing the door seals in my '64
CrewCab. Fortunately only the front ones!

I know that there can be significant differences between
manufacturers of seals in size, shape, stiffness,
longevity, price, etc.

I'd like some recommendations on seals, suppliers,
installation assistance, etc. Real tales of installation
problems, solutions, material problems, vendor problems,
etc.

It's raining inside my truck! help!

Thanks -

- - Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab

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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 06:22:42 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: C6 trans cooler ports, which is which?

John F. Bauer III wrote:

> Group:
>
> If anyone knows this one off the top of their head, I would apprecaite it
> (also be darned impressed!):
>
> Standing by the passenger door, kneeling down, looking at my C6 ... there is
> a port to the trans cooler towards the front of the engine and one towards
> the rear of the van, could someone tell me which one is the out port and
> which one is the in port?

I'm no expert in trans but considering the pump is located behind the front
plate of the trans I would guess this is the output to the cooler/radiator,etc.
The rear port would be the return obviously.

If I'm wrong there will be a correction to follow.

Thanks
John MacNamara

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette

>
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:28:44 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Door handles

The handles should be interchangeable

>>The interior handles are
different. Does anybody know if I can simply change out the door guts
and=

install the correct '67 handle

Azie
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:35:47 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Rich 460

I think the smell is sulfur content in your gasoline - not necessarily
a rich condition. I often times get this same smell when stopped in
traffic behind certain vehicles and the air or heat is on and sucking
in air from the outside. JMHO

>>Now that I have your attention. My '79 F250 with a stock 460 is
running way
rich. Just put on a cat for the smog police and it smells like I am
towing
a chicken coop!! How do I adjust the mixture and get this thing leaned
out!
Have a stock 460 with factory Holly 4bbl on it. Found the idle speed
screw
but the only other obvious adjustment seems to be float related. 9/16"
nut
with adjusting screw on top of each bowl. Any help or reference that I
may
be able to get at the library would be great.

Azie
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 07:49:36 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Brake adjustment question

I have been told several different things by several different people, so I am going to ask the group and see what you say.


When adjusting Drum Brakes, with the wheel raised off the ground. Should you feel any resistance from the brake shoes as you turn the wheel with your hand???


Later




Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net

Mesa, AZ

1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi
5-Speed.

1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.

1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long
Box, Style Side.

1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.

My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"

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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 07:45:42 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Brake adjustment question

Keith Srb wrote:
>
> I have been told several different things by several different people, so I am going to ask the group and see what you say.
>
> When adjusting Drum Brakes, with the wheel raised off the ground. Should you feel any resistance from the brake shoes as you turn the wheel with your hand???
>
> Later
>


I have always tightened them till there is a slight scrape sound when
they are rotated. I always apply the brake and readjust a few times to
be sure they are seated correctly.

Trick-O-The-Day:

Raise both rear tires with jack stands so they don't touch the ground
and let the engine idle in gear to rotate the tires while adjusting.
Alot easier on the arms! ( Always use all safety precautions when doing
this and it is important to raise both rear wheels at the same time! )

As a side note:
In found that my rear break shoes ( 70 f250 Dana 60 ) had been installed
incorrectly ( "this side out" pointing in ) and the parking break cable
was too tight which caused the shoes to ride on the E-break cam rather
then the backing plate pivot.

Just things to look out for!

Dana
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:02:49 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Brake adjustment question

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 07:45:42 -0800
> Subject: Re: Brake adjustment question

> Raise both rear tires with jack stands so they don't touch the
> ground and let the engine idle in gear to rotate the tires while
> adjusting. Alot easier on the arms! ( Always use all safety
> precautions when doing this and it is important to raise both rear
> wheels at the same time! )

If you have 4wd be carefull with this one! I've done this too and it
works especially well with auto's which you can simply pump the brake
pedal to adjust them once you get close by putting it in reverse but
as has been mentioned before the self adjusters do not always get
them tight enough for a good pedal feel. Pumping them ensures
everything is seated and in it's running position and is mandatory
while adjusting to get the best pedal :-) It's really cool if you
can get a helper to pump while you adjust so you don't have to work
off so much of that table muscle getting up :-)


Must be gettin senile, can't
think of anything smart to say

- -- Gary --
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:09:22 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

Brett,

Is the carb original? It may need a rebuild. Another possibility is
the power valve may be ruptured. If the engine backfires through the
carb it causes a pressure spike that will tear the diaphram in the
valve. The valve is located in the metering block. Holley says the
valve is more robust than its reputation, but it's in their interest to
say that. Also if the valve is 20 years old it may be worn out.

The idle mixture screws only adjust that -- the idle mixture. When the
engine is above idle the mixture is controlled by the jets. If someone
else has "tuned" the carb the jets may be richer than stock. T he jets
are also located on the metering block. To adjust them they must be
replaced. There is a company named Percy's that was featured in last
month's Hot Rod magazine that makes an adjustable metering plate that
replaces the jets on a Holley carb. They cost $80-100 each. Your carb
may need one or two depending on the carb. The advantage to the plate
is they are externally adjustable. You don't have to remove the fuel
bowls to change the jetting.

Holley has a decent web page at www.holley.com

Good luck.


Tom H
San Francisco, California
76 F-150 SuperCab 390FE
96 Windstar 200 hp 3.8L (Wife's Hot Rod)




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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:36:09 -0600
From: "Brett McCoy"
Subject: Put my Carb on a diet PLEASE!!

Now that I have your attention. My '79 F250 with a stock 460 is running
way
rich. Just put on a cat for the smog police and it smells like I am
towing
a chicken coop!! How do I adjust the mixture and get this thing leaned
out!
Have a stock 460 with factory Holly 4bbl on it. Found the idle speed
screw
but the only other obvious adjustment seems to be float related. 9/16"
nut
with adjusting screw on top of each bowl. Any help or reference that I
may
be able to get at the library would be great.

- - -B

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 14:02:54 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Seats

Someone asked about after market seats and I went out and found this:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.globalautonet.com/visionresearch.html

This is the company I was refering to who make the adjustabel
suspension seats. :-)

Must be gettin senile, can't
think of anything smart to say

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Date: 05 Dec 97 11:33:25 -0800
From: Owen Bly
Subject: Hello

I just subscribed to this fine list...so hi everyone.

I'm the very proud owner of a '66 Ranchero that I'm restoring, and was =
curious if there were any other 60's Ranchero owners out there...

Owen
Oakland,CA
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:24:21 -0800 (PST)
From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
Subject: Thanks for the Speedo help

Well, as my truck is wont to do, the speedo is now working. But,
I'm not going to wait for it to break again. Next time I make it to the
bon eyard, I'm going to pick up an instrument cluster or two to tinker
with. Thanks to all of those who posted. Maybe if I avoid going over any
more bumps my speedo will continue to qwork... :) Thanks once again to
all those who helped.

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Daniel H. JenkinsFood for thought: John Milton
djenkins honors.unr.eduwrote _Paradise_Lost_; When his
Honors Programwife died he wrote _Paradise_
University of Nevada, Reno_Regained_...

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:28:20 EST
From: Chekerdpst
Subject: Re: Rich 460

Occasionally a cat will smell very similar to rotten eggs. this happens when
I do alot of stop and go driving in my cat-equipped vehicles. Not much you
can do about it that I know of.
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 00:30:59 -0500
From: "J. Oxley"
Subject: Re: Square Headlights

Greg Charney wrote:
> or the trim level? or

My 78 Bronco Custom had round. I converted to square. Fords original
78 brochure shows square with the XLT.

OX

> did someone do me a favor and switch them for me. :-)
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