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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, November 17 1997 Volume 01 : Number 356



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In this issue:

Re: gas tanks.. FYI.. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Pomona Swap Meet [John MacNamara ]
Re: Dist Won't seat ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure [Sleddog ]
Re: NEW CARD [John MacNamara ]
the dead and a flat tire [Sleddog ]
Re: gas tanks.. FYI.. [Keith Srb ]
rearend id [jniolon uss.com]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: the dead and a flat tire ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
rearend id [jniolon uss.com]
Re: C-6 weight ["Jason K. Schechner" ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #355 [Marv Miller ]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Dist Won't seat [SARHOG aol.com]
figureing CID [am14 chrysler.com]
CID [am14 chrysler.com]
Clutch fan [am14 chrysler.com]
low oil pres. [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: C-6 weight [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Hear, hear...misc ford ramblings..... [marko helix.net (marko marynia]
Black Center Caps 1976-1982 [John Strauss ]
'73 F250 Ranger XLT 390 [LeeCraner aol.com]
351M trouble [Adam Clever ]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts ["deconblu" ]
Re: gas tanks.. FYI.. [A64F100 aol.com]
Re: ADMIN: Please read... [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
Chrome Grille [Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)]
69 f250 question/74 frame? [shoman p3.net]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts [danadeb pacbell.net]
390 and duraspark [shoman p3.net]
Re: figureing CID ["Kevin Fowler" ]
Re: Kingpin and misc. ["Mike & Evan" ]
RE: '73 F250 Ranger XLT 390 [DC Beatty ]
RE: 351M trouble [DC Beatty ]

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:34:35 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: gas tanks.. FYI..

> From: A64F100 aol.com
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:30:44 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: gas tanks.. FYI..

> neck, I'm considering the filler options, but I'll probably just get
> a straight neck and put it up through the bed. Well, good luck to
> anyone else who's doin this or something similar.

Can't you use the original filler neck and relocate it to the back?
Then just patch up the old location to look like it was never there?

Do you spend more time looking
for tools than using them???

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:53:11 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Pomona Swap Meet

MICHAEL FRISCH wrote:

> >>Wanted to let everyone know that the Pomona Swap Meet, at the
> >>Los Angeles County Fair Grounds in Pomona, is this Sunday
> >>the 23rd of November.
> >>
> >>Its every 6 Sundays. But have not seen a date for January.
> >>Ill post the Info. number on Monday.
> >>
> >>dopie
> >
> >Great! If other members are going, perhaps we can meet. Does anyone
> want to
> >pick a place we can meet at?
> >
> >
> >Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
>
> Deacon,
>
> Sounds great!!
> Pick a time? (about 8:30 I gota drive from West Hills in the Valley)
> Place? Umm how about the main ticket gate?

I have to go to the swap meet also to pick up some 429 heads for someone
else on the list. The gentleman is bringing them up from San Diego. I can
also meet you guys there at the main entrance.

Thanks
John MacNamara

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette

>
>
> dopie
> parts chimp by trade
>
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:54:11 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Dist Won't seat

> From: SARHOG aol.com
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:55:05 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: Dist Won't seat

> the #1 plug is still fouling. Heck, I may trash the current intake
> (Offie Port-O-Sonic) in favor of a Weiand Stealth.

Is that the one with the separate secondary plane? (Offy that is)

Do you spend more time looking
for tools than using them???

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:46:40 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure

the HP loss can be measured for sure. i do agree in using lighter oils,
and would never use 10-40. windage is a big problem, and robs alot of
power i have heard estiamtes toward 20 hp, but don't know if i believe it.

just for trivia...if you put a drop of oil on a flat plate, and hit it with
a flat plate, the oil will dent the metal. under extreme pressure the oil
molecules line up (they are long like a snake) side by side. this doesn't
allow them to move except lenthwise and they can't "slither out". this is
what stops metal to metal contact. this is one of many aspects that make
one oil different from another. a better oil has longer molecules, and
they have stronger atonic bonds so that the "snakes" won't break. as i
said, this is how i understand it. any petrolium engineers out there?

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 1997 9:48 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:22:45 -0500

> i thought it was for economy (gas mileage) as the thinner oil robs
> less HP.

That may be true but I doubt if you could measure the HP differnece.
What does rob HP is windage. I've had people tell me they saw a
video of a 460 at high rpm through a glass port in the crank case and
the the oil looked like a horizontal hurricane wrapped around the
crank with almost none in the pan. This phenomena does two things,
robs the engine of the oil's cooling effects and risks cavitating the
pump and thus the bearings as well as adding rotating mass to the
crank.

It's the oil film STRENGTH which actually protects the engine not
it's thickness and if it doesn't get there because it's too thick it
can't protect the parts or cool them.

If you build a high rpm engine whch will mostly see high rpm the
tolerances are different to allow for heat expansion of parts but
mostly to allow the use of the high volume oil pump for better
cooling. I believe this is also the primary reason they use larger
oil pans. It ensures the pump won't cavitate due to windage and
helps with cooling.


Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
with no oil in the front end?

- -- Gary --






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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:56:05 -0800
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: NEW CARD

Rick, Teri, and Kevin Christ wrote:

> Have a 75 Ford 3/4ton van, 460 engine. I need a new carb,
> street legal in Calif. Any ideas? Price?

Rick,Teri, and Kevin: I put a smog legal Holley on mind. It wasn't cheap,
around $400 I think. It has the vent tubes on the float bowl and whatever
else comes with it. If you want I can try to find a part number.

Thanks
John MacNamara

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette

>
>
> Rick
> Redding, CA
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:29:19 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: the dead and a flat tire

i was sitting here thinkin' bout my ford, wondering exactly how was i gonna
get 650 hp on a 300 hp budget and listening to Tampa 12/19/73 when not only
did the voice of jerry glow like the golden sunshine, but his words started
playing before my eyes and since i don't remember the sixties i must of
been there so i thought maybe too much of everything was really just enough
so now i'll get some ben & jerry's ice cream (cherry garcia of course) and
ponder the ripples of that long strange drip as i gotta get back truckin'
on....

oh, about that high HP wish on a low HP budget, i think nitrous is out of
the question. the rules don't let me run it and my truck makes people
laugh enough already. (must be the dead stickers)
;)_? (smoking cigarette)

and the question - i don't know how but...

i got a flat tire - my 33" bfg mud is sitting on the rim. any idea how to
find the leak in a 33" tire? i don't have a tub big enough to sink it and
if i use the bath tub the ! #$ will hit fan.

sleddog
>
>P.S.
>
>which is your new hobby:
>
>Song lyrics or stating the obvious ;)

Truckin', like the do-dah man
Once told me "Gotta play your hand.
Sometimes your cards ain't worth a dime
If you don't lay'em down."

Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me.
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me
What a long, strange trip it's been.

Is there a limit on how many one has? ;)


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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:43:56 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: gas tanks.. FYI..

At 08:34 AM 11/17/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Do you spend more time looking
>for tools than using them???

Yes

>
>-- Gary --

Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: rearend id


who says I don't know my rearend from a hole in the ground ? I do...

found this one looking for a 9" 28 spline limited spline the tag
sas:

WEV-R1 6CE
3.00 9 711A

I know the 3.00 is ratio and the 9 is diameter

I see no "L" to show limited slip

can anyone decifer quickly...email direct please at jniolon uss.com

got to know this a.m.


thanks group

john

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:56:20 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

John Travolta playing Vinnie Barbarino on Welcome Back Kotter.

(Why do I know this stuff????!!!!!)

>
> "I'm so confused"
>
> ( A imaginary $1.00 to the first person to correctly identify who and on
what TV
> show the above quote is known from)
>
> Dana
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:01:27 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: the dead and a flat tire

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: the dead and a flat tire
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:29:19 -0500

> i got a flat tire - my 33" bfg mud is sitting on the rim. any idea
> how to find the leak in a 33" tire? i don't have a tub big enough to
> sink it and if i use the bath tub the ! #$ will hit fan.

All I listen to is 50/60's stuff and that one doesn't ring a bell??
I just use a little soapy water to find them myself. Course since
the whole dang thing is covered with bubbles you have to develop an
eye for it :-) (don't use low sudsing detergent, it don't work too
good :-))

Do you spend more time looking
for tools than using them???

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: rearend id


who says I don't know my rearend from a hole in the ground ? I do...

found this one looking for a 9" 28 spline limited spline the tag
sas:

WEV-R1 6CE
3.00 9 711A

I know the 3.00 is ratio and the 9 is diameter

I see no "L" to show limited slip

can anyone decifer quickly...email direct please at jniolon uss.com

got to know this a.m.


thanks group

john

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:25:32 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jason K. Schechner"
Subject: Re: C-6 weight

On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
> Come on over to my house and I'll give you my bronco if you can pick
> up my 205 with your bare hands and walk away with it! Remember,
> Jason, they used to make them right :-)

Actually, when I did my tranny swap about a year ago I managed to
move my 205 by hand. It wasn't easy, but not as heavy as I expected
either.

- -Jason, the "walking away" may be a problem, though!
79 Bronco (351M, C6, 33" BFG AT's) GRN GYNT - offroad monster
79 Bronco (400M, C6, 31" Wranglers) blue - BGHOSS (coming soon)
95 Mustang GT - LTLHOS - Eibachs, 3.55's, K&N, 13deg timing
84 Kawasaki GPz550 - TNYHOS - to make up for the Broncos' appetite

- -----
Jason K. Schechner - check out www.cauce.org and help ban spam-mail.
===The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has bounds===

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:51:38 -0800
From: Marv Miller
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #355

> From: A64F100 aol.com
> Subject: gas tanks.. FYI.

> Hey, I thought I'd share a tip with everybody.. I'm in the process of
> relocating the gas tank on my '64 Effie.
(snip)
>It came out of a late 70's Ford Granada and fits right between the
> framerails behind the rear axle.

Speaking of tanks, I've got the AUX tank from a '70 Camper Special
(the primary one was, too, in the cab) laying around. It's free to
anyone who comes and picks it up. It's in Reseda, CA. I don't want to
mess with shipping, so ya' gotta' pick it up. It mounts inside the
rails, under the bed's left front side. It's at least 22 gallons.
E-mail me privately if you want it.

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 10:35:08 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

>John Travolta playing Vinnie Barbarino on Welcome Back Kotter.
>
>(Why do I know this stuff????!!!!!)


Oh!! Oh!! Oh!!! Oh!!! (arm waving up in the air frantically)

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:28:04 -0500 (EST)
From: SARHOG aol.com
Subject: Re: Dist Won't seat

In a message dated 97-11-17 10:57:29 EST, Gary writes:

>

No, it is a high rise (6") single plane.

John Z
67 F-100 460/C-6

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:33:15 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: figureing CID

Pie2 X R X L= CID.

>>Ok, can anyone give me the formula, or answer as to what CID my engine
is now that its been bored .30 over ?? Its a 460, and I've been
questioned by my 15 year old son as to what this now makes the engine
size. I never really thought about it and don't have a clue as to how
you would figure this out.

Azie

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:37:16 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: CID

I SCREWED UP THE PREVIOUS POST. ITS PIE X R2 x L= CID.

Azie

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:44:06 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Clutch fan

I've had very good luck at the salvage yards. Yes I like the clutch
fans. Most all V8 FOMOCO engines use a common Clutch bolt pattern.
You don't have to have one from a 460 to do the job.

>> I have a clutch fan on my 460, but the clutch is shot.
Should I replace the clutch or buy a new fan? Do I really need a clutch
fan? Anybody have one laying around they want to get rid off?

Azie

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:53:30 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: low oil pres.

This is a very good possibility. >>

>>If for some reason the oil might be draining too slowly back to the
oil
pan. Under this condition the engine would have oil pressure for a while
then suddenly lose pressure, you shut off the engine and the oil has
time to drain back, start it up and the whole process starts all over
again! At low engine speeds there may be just enough time for the oil to
get back to the pan but at higher speeds maybe not?

Also a loose pickup tube or a hole in the pickup tube at some distance
up from the filter.. ie
covered with oil when idling not covered when at some RPM off idle. I
had a pickup filter almost completely clogged up with the remains of
the valve stem seals that got brittle from heat on a MOPAR once and it
caused the exact condition you describe. Might want to pull the pan
and check it out.

GOOD LUCK

Azie

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:21:38 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: C-6 weight

>Actually, when I did my tranny swap about a year ago I managed to
>move my 205 by hand. It wasn't easy, but not as heavy as I expected
>either.
>

Try moving a 435 by hand! I "jacked" mine by hand out of my truck, then
lifted into my friend's trunk for transportation to the tranny shop. Now
that thing was heavy....


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4
67 merc m100

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:24:06 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Hear, hear...misc ford ramblings.....

> this stuff was apart why not do something about
>my ignition system." I've got the stock ford electronic system but how do
>I tell this from the dura-spark? I know the dura-spark cap is of a larger
>two piece design with the posts placed farther apart but what about the
>rest. I've got the small cap with breakerless ignition. Is it the same as
>dura-spark but without the improved cap design? I see lots of dura-spark
>dist. in the local junk yard and they don't look much different then mine.
>Which dura-spark dist. will be a drop in fit on an FE engine?

If you have electronic already you have dura-spark. If your ignition is
okay then the rule of ain't broken, don't fix applies. Once your
wires/cap/rotor, (probably your wires since the'yre the most expensive) go,
then buy the adaptor, wide cap, rotor, and different wires (from like a 460
or something) for your engine. Basically Ford switched to electronic
ignition on the 360/390 in late years for mileage, but for some reason
didn't switch over the cap configuration. They musta had a whole bunch of
spares of the old kind of cap they needed to use up...



marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4
67 merc m100




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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:07:48 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: Black Center Caps 1976-1982

Does anybody have a set of the BLACK center caps that Ford used on the
factory wagon wheels from 1976-1981 (in 1982 they chromed 'em) that they
would part with? These are the ones with that are held on by 3 screws with
the red center.


_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, _} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:18:13 -0500 (EST)
From: LeeCraner aol.com
Subject: '73 F250 Ranger XLT 390

I just picked up this F250. The vertical trim piece in the center of the
grill is missing. What did it look like and where can I get a replacement?

Secondly, I remember seeing one F series (pre '80, but don't remember how old
it was) that had 390 emblems on the front fenders. Did Ford ever put the
engine displacement emblems on their pickups?

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Lee

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 97 09:12:00 -0800
From: Adam Clever
Subject: 351M trouble

Well gang it may be time for major surgery.

A 'clacking' sound has developed in the '79 351M. At first I didn't worry,
I expected the water pump to die off soon. Over the weekend I used the
garden hose stethoscope to try to pinpoint the noise and it was not around
the pump. I was in a hurry so I didn't do a complete enough job but, the
only noise I picked up on was at the distributor cap. I don't know if this
is telling or not.

The noise is metallic, as opposed to the softer lifter sound, and changes
tone slightly when idle speed changes similar to the sound in a sheetrock
wall as you approach a stud. It is present at different times, and
different engine speeds. Most consistently it appears at cruise speed
(moderate engine load) and goes away or diminishes either under power or at
coast. At times, I will drive (at great risk, probably) only by
accelerating and coasting to minimize the noise, and hopefully the
damage/wear.

Any opinions, are there any rules-of-thumb for certain noises under certain
conditions indicating certain problems. I'd like to see if its possible to
attack the condition and avoid a rebuild for now. Otherwise, I'll be
reporting on a 351M back to 400 project.

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:14:50 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

>>John Travolta playing Vinnie Barbarino on Welcome Back Kotter.
>>
>>(Why do I know this stuff????!!!!!)
>
>
>Oh!! Oh!! Oh!!! Oh!!! (arm waving up in the air frantically)

Bill, Marko;
Let us not forget, the list has rules. Post must contain Ford truck
content. I can only say:

Good morning, The Worm, Your Honor,
The Crown will plainly show,
The prisoners who now stand before you,
Were caught red-handed showing feelings.
Showing feelings of an almost human nature.
This will not do.

Call Deacon Blues!

I always said they'd come to no good,
In the end, Your Honor.
If they'd let me have my way,
I could have flayed them into shape.
But my hands were tied.
The bleeding hearts and artists,
Let them get away with murder.
Let me hammer them today.

The correct reply would be as follows:

Dana I would forget the chrome strip and replace the rubber without it! If
you don't live in the wetlands, perhaps you can use RTV to fix the old
rubber and not hassle any of this.

John Travolta playing Vinnie Barbarino on Welcome Back Kotter

Oh!! Oh!! Oh!!! Oh!!! (arm waving up in the air frantically)

I believe a majority of the list would agree with me when I say, these
rules are in place for more than hammering AOLers. So please let us not
forget our Ford truck content when posting. :)

ftpcp by:
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:38:05 -0500 (EST)
From: A64F100 aol.com
Subject: Re: gas tanks.. FYI..

In a message dated 97-11-17 08:36:38 EST, you write:


Then just patch up the old location to look like it was never there?

Do you spend more time looking
for tools than using them???
>>
that's always a possibility, there's a lot of things I wanna try to see how
it looks, so I'm not quite sure yet...

I do as much work and get as many goodies as time and money restraints
allow...

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 06:55:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please read...

- -> In short I'm on two lists and share what I learn from both with

*Two* lists? Pfaugh! I'm on twenty...

====dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us========================DoD#978=======
can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
==5.0 RX7 -> Tyrannosaurus RX! == SAE '82 == Denizens of Doom M/C '92==


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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:49:45 -0500
From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
Subject: Chrome Grille

Hi all I am looking for a Chomed tube style grille for my 69 F100 and
have been for some time I was recently at a show and saw a guy who had
one but claimed he did'nt remember where he got it my question is this I
came across one in J.C. Whitney but they only have them for 75 -77 ( 75
is as far as they go back) will a 75 grille fit a 69? Thanks for the
help.

Duke's
Fine 69

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:22:52 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: 69 f250 question/74 frame?

Well folks,
i just bought the 69 f250 4x4 that i posted i was going to part out
well I have a few questions...The frame is a 74 with a 69 Body on it..
my questions start with 1)while reading the red book on f-series they
say the 73 -up trucks have a longer/wider frame???But the body mounted
fine??Is this true???The body is a 70 camper special with dual tanks
but it is missing the tank for under the bed..Hard to find???
2)the drive train is a 390 with a 4speed???But it also has a divorced
transfer case..When did the t-case move or is it like this on all
big blocks????3)Would it be better to build my 68 f100 or build a f-250
with my 68 body(pretty rust free)4)I would like to keep the ford blue
torch away if possible and make this a running truck But the
cab and fenders are trash...The bed and tailgate only have surface
rust..is the camper special bed hard to find ,due to the fuel neck???
I havent climbed around the truck much since its cold and dark by 5pm est
Would like some response from anybody and everybody....

- --
Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"
1969 F-250 4x4 390 ????? "Undecided Future"

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:35:34 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

Bill Beyer wrote:
>
> John Travolta playing Vinnie Barbarino on Welcome Back Kotter.
>
> (Why do I know this stuff????!!!!!)


Bill,

You are the lucky winner!

Here is your buck! $1.00

Dana

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:30:23 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: 390 and duraspark

Well being an owner of a FE engine finally I was wondering where
can I get Duraspark for a 390???Can a donor 360 work???Any other
engines that will work????I assume its wired the same way as the small
block i just did?

- --
Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:07:01 -0600
From: "Kevin Fowler"
Subject: Re: figureing CID

Engine size times over size bore .30 (.030),.60 (.060), .90 (.090) etc.....)
divided by 2 plus engine size.

460 x .030 = 13.8 2 = 6.9 + 460 = 466.9

It seem to work on any engine size.



- -----Original Message-----
From: am14 chrysler.com
To: Fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Monday, November 17, 1997 3:21 PM
Subject: figureing CID



>Pie2 X R X L= CID.
>
>>>Ok, can anyone give me the formula, or answer as to what CID my engine
>is now that its been bored .30 over ?? Its a 460, and I've been
>questioned by my 15 year old son as to what this now makes the engine
>size. I never really thought about it and don't have a clue as to how
>you would figure this out.
>
>Azie
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:24:48 -0600
From: "Mike & Evan"
Subject: Re: Kingpin and misc.

Thanks to everyone who gave me some insight on my problems!

I will try tearing it apart this weekend and I'm sure I will run into
problems, this being my first time at this, and will surely have more
questions.

One more question: What would the advantage of a NP205 vs. a NP203 with
the part time conversion and lockouts be? Someone mentioned a lower low
range, anything else? What is the going rate for a used one? Is it a
easy swap?

Thanks again!!

Mike Vonhof
yasky netins.net

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:06:19 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: '73 F250 Ranger XLT 390

Lee,


he
grill is missing. What did it look like and where can I get a
replacement?>>

I think it's just a hunk of black rubber. =



ow
old
it was) that had 390 emblems on the front fenders. Did Ford ever put the=

engine displacement emblems on their pickups?

Some '68 and '69 trucks had a badge down low on the fender. I thi=
nk
it's the same one the Galaxie's had, with three angled red bars with the
360 or 390 across it. =


Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Lee>>

DC Beatty
1967 F100 352
1974 Maverick 302

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:06:25 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: 351M trouble

I hate mystery engine noises. Could it be the fuel pump shaft/eccentric?
This might sound like a lifter, at least at the same tempo, and it would
come from the front of the motor. Or maybe the Thrust washer for the fron=
t
of the cam is coming loose and the cam is walking back and forth in there=
=2E =


Let us know if you come across any more detail. Hope this helps.

DC Beatty
1967 F100 352
1974 Maverick 302

Well gang it may be time for major surgery.

A 'clacking' sound has developed in the '79 351M. At first I didn't worr=
y,

I expected the water pump to die off soon. Over the weekend I used the =

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