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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, November 17 1997 Volume 01 : Number 355



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In this issue:

Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Kingpin and misc. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: ADMIN: Please read... ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Dust Cap for Full Time Hub? [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts [danadeb pacbell.net]
'65 Radio parts [Floyd Terrell ]
RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure [Sleddog ]
RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Pomona Swap Meet ["deconblu" ]
duh ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts ["deconblu" ]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: duh [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Dist Won't seat [SARHOG aol.com]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts ["deconblu" ]
Re: duh ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: Dist Won't seat ["deconblu" ]
gas tanks.. FYI.. [A64F100 aol.com]
Re: Pomona Swap Meet ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]
Re: duh ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]
Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: duh [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Mac's and rubber parts ["deconblu" ]
Hear, hear...misc ford ramblings..... [Paul ]

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 07:44:00 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:08:38 -0800
> Subject: Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure

> I had a thought that would act as you described regarding oil
> pressure loss.
>
> If for some reason the oil might be draining too slowly back to the
> oil pan. Under this condition the engine would have oil pressure for
> a while then suddenly lose pressure, you shut off the engine and the
> oil has time to drain back, start it up and the whole process starts
> all over again! At low engine speeds there may be just enough time
> for the oil to get back to the pan but at higher speeds maybe not?

There is a thing called windage but this usually isn't a factor ttll
you get way up there like 6 grand or so but your comment reminded me
that there is another reason, plugged drain holes in the lifter
gallery or heads will slow the return or hold so much oil in the top
end that the pump cavitates. If the pump cavitates for 5 seconds
every 30 seconds the oil gauge would read low but would be steady
since it's response time is slow. You can't see a cavitating pump in
the gauge, any gauge IMHO unless it's just plain out of oil.

Pull the valve covers off and take a look. If it's sludged up this
could be the problem. Now you have to decide whether to take a
SERIOUS chance of destroying the engine with flushing compounds or
taking it apart to clean it up.

Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
with no oil in the front end?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:49:15 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:59:58 -0800
> Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

> Gary,
> My truck is a 1970 with the a "real" windshield rubber ;)
>
> I used to work on a 89 E350 and the way the windshields mount in
> those is strange, sounds like the 76-79 you described. ( I think it
> was double stick foam tape between the body and glass then the
> rubber over that, or something like that.

The newer ones, I understand, are sort of glued in but the 76 - 79's
have moulded rubber gaskets like the mid 70's van side windows and
can be peeled out and reused with no sealer as far as I know. You
don't have to cut anything, it just pulls out. I like the idea
myself.

Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
with no oil in the front end?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:03:21 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Kingpin and misc.

> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:50:30 -0800
> From: Don Grossman
> Subject: Re: Kingpin and misc.

> Go ahead and get the locking hubs and put them on now. You can
> drive the truck with the front hubs unlocked. Just put the t-case
> into HI-LOCK. This will lock the center diff and away you go. As

With hubs unlocked and the xfer case locked this will spin the guts
out of the spider gears in the front diff. OTOH if you don't lock
the diff you will spin the guts out of the planetary gears in the 203
and the truck won't go anywhere. As I said before you can put the
hubs on and leave them locked or buy them and leave them off till you
get the part time kit or you can just get a 205 (I understand they
bolt right in) along with the hubs and really have a tough truck.
I think the 203 has a lower low range tho so that might be a
consideration as well.

If you need to do them one at a time I suggest either the 205 swap or
part time kit for the 203 first and then the hubs. That way there
won't be as much likelyhood of making a mistake and damaging your
front diff spiders.


Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
with no oil in the front end?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 10:25:18 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please read...

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:46:28 -0800
> Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please read...

> > 6. Item Six - New mailing lists
> > Voting for a Bronco 2/Explorer/Ranger list will begin one day
> >
> With too many lists will come redundancy. Gary talks about another
> list where they have been talking about some of the same topics as
> our list. We all can learn a thing or two from model years and types
> other then our own.

Deacon, get a life! :-)

Dana I agree, there was another big bronco list that started up with
the idea that it would be more on topic but got little response
because we all enjoy having a little fun while we share ideas so I
think it may be dead now, not sure. Since trucks are trucks and the
broncos and F-150's share so much of the body and power train a pure
truck list is a good forum and for those with little time to brows
mail the specific model lists can be nice such as big broncos or baby
broncos etc but there is already a baby bronco list and a bronco II
list and since they fall into the various year catagories of trucks
already they are included in our truck forums so why do we need a new
one?? Besides the broncoII's rust so fast they won't be around much
longer anyway so why bother?? (just kidding :-))

In short I'm on two lists and share what I learn from both with
either as it seems appropriate but I have lots of browsing time. If
you have specific needs and little time to browse, join one of the
specific lists and expand to generic ones if you have the time.
Course I have a bronco and a PU and I've had vans (Ohhhh, I loved my
4x4 van!) and my son had a broncoII so maybe I just have a wider
interest :-)

Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
with no oil in the front end?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:59:26 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Dust Cap for Full Time Hub?

MICHAEL FRISCH wrote:
>
> >
> >Hi, anyone know of a place where I can get a new dustcap for my '78
> 150?
> >The caps are apparently not available for the full time hubs any more
> >through Ford.
>
> Give them another chance. I tried 4 times and 2 dealers before I found
> someone that could help me find the oil cap on my 70 F100.
>
> I was told it was superseded to another number that was obsolet.
>
> What do you expect for $6hr ??
>
> dopie
> Parts Chimp By Trade
>

I have found the same to be true. You really have to find a counter person
who is willing and able to dig deep, but when you do it is amazing what
Ford has in their warehouses.

Dana

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:09:58 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:

> The newer ones, I understand, are sort of glued in but the 76 - 79's
> have moulded rubber gaskets like the mid 70's van side windows and
> can be peeled out and reused with no sealer as far as I know. You
> don't have to cut anything, it just pulls out. I like the idea
> myself.
>


Right, It can be pulled out as an assembly with the glass attached,
and you have to use the rope trick to put it back in. But since mine is
sooooo bad I think it will be much easier to cut the rubber from inside
the cab and lift the glass and remainder of the rubber off the truck. (
less chance of cracking it like a back window I did once.

So far I have one vote for keeping the chrome and one vote for loosing it!

Come on folks let me know what you think!

Dana

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:34:47 -0600
From: Floyd Terrell
Subject: '65 Radio parts

I am restoring a '65 with a 240-6 to original. I have managed to find
and recondition an AM radio, but......................

This radio is mounted thru 2 holes about 1/2 inch in diameter for the
vol and tuning shafts, there is no hole for the dial. The dial is a
separate unit that attachs to the dash with 2 screws. There is a
plastic/nylon gear that fits between the dial and the dash on the tuning
knob, it makes the needle move as you change stations. I NEED THE
GEAR!!!!

As it is now, the radio works, I can change stations, but the needle
doesn't move. Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Floyd Terrell
Saraland, Alabama
Floydt earthlink.net

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:22:45 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure

i thought it was for economy (gas mileage) as the thinner oil robs less HP.

sleddog


Unless I were continuously driving in Death Valley at 120+ degrees I
would never use 20w50 in anything except perhaps a heavy truck diesel
and I'm not even sure that's appropriate. New vehicles all come with
5w30 recommendation including trucks. The reason is that the oil has
to be thin enough to get into all the cracks and crannys in the
engine with sufficient volume to cool and lubricate the parts.
Cooling is the oil's second most important function and it can't do
it if it isn't flowing.

Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
with no oil in the front end?

- -- Gary --





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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:48:51 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:22:45 -0500

> i thought it was for economy (gas mileage) as the thinner oil robs
> less HP.

That may be true but I doubt if you could measure the HP differnece.
What does rob HP is windage. I've had people tell me they saw a
video of a 460 at high rpm through a glass port in the crank case and
the the oil looked like a horizontal hurricane wrapped around the
crank with almost none in the pan. This phenomena does two things,
robs the engine of the oil's cooling effects and risks cavitating the
pump and thus the bearings as well as adding rotating mass to the
crank.

It's the oil film STRENGTH which actually protects the engine not
it's thickness and if it doesn't get there because it's too thick it
can't protect the parts or cool them.

If you build a high rpm engine whch will mostly see high rpm the
tolerances are different to allow for heat expansion of parts but
mostly to allow the use of the high volume oil pump for better
cooling. I believe this is also the primary reason they use larger
oil pans. It ensures the pump won't cavitate due to windage and
helps with cooling.


Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
with no oil in the front end?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:02:09 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Pomona Swap Meet

>Wanted to let everyone know that the Pomona Swap Meet, at the
>Los Angeles County Fair Grounds in Pomona, is this Sunday
>the 23rd of November.
>
>Its every 6 Sundays. But have not seen a date for January.
>Ill post the Info. number on Monday.
>
>dopie

Great! If other members are going, perhaps we can meet. Does anyone want to
pick a place we can meet at?


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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:14:34 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: duh

>A blonde & brunette are in an elevator. On the third floor a man gets in
>who's perfect: 3-piece suit, great build, nice butt. The bad part is they
>both noticed he had dandruff.
>
>The man got off on the 5th floor. Once the doors closed the brunette
>turned to the blonde and said, "Someone should give him Head & Shoulders."
>To which the blonde replied, "How do you give Shoulders?"

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:46:55 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

>So far I have one vote for keeping the chrome and one vote for loosing it!
>
>Come on folks let me know what you think!
>
>Dana

Why don't you just do what ever it is you want to do with it!
SORRY, IT'S MY NEW HOBBY!

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:10:23 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

I just can't decide I have seen them with and I have seen them without.
I also don't want to go to alot of trouble to try to save the chrome if
most of the time it is un-saveable.

P.S.

which is your new hobby:

Song lyrics or stating the obvious ;)

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:12:08 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: duh

Strikes 1 and 2?

Dana

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:55:05 -0500 (EST)
From: SARHOG aol.com
Subject: Re: Dist Won't seat

In a message dated 97-11-16 09:53:09 EST, you write:


seat properly????

>> the distributor seated all the way. It sticks up about 1 inch.
Azie >>

I think that was me. I just got the distrinutor to seat the other day.
After spending countless hours comparing and measuring the new and the old,
my buddy came over, looked at it for a minute, beveled the end of the shaft
with a file just a little bit and it dropped right in! The truck still runs
bad though. I think my next move will be checking the intake manifold seal
down by the lifter valley 'cause the #1 plug is still fouling. Heck, I may
trash the current intake (Offie Port-O-Sonic) in favor of a Weiand Stealth.

John Z.
67 F-100 460/C-6

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:00:52 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

>I just can't decide I have seen them with and I have seen them without.
>I also don't want to go to alot of trouble to try to save the chrome if
>most of the time it is un-saveable.

If you take the chrome off you will know if it's salvageable. Then you can
make an educated decision on whether you should or shouldn't keep it.
>
>P.S.
>
>which is your new hobby:
>
>Song lyrics or stating the obvious ;)

Truckin', like the do-dah man
Once told me "Gotta play your hand.
Sometimes your cards ain't worth a dime
If you don't lay'em down."

Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me.
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me
What a long, strange trip it's been.

Is there a limit on how many one has? ;)


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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:19:58 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: duh

SORRRY!

That was meant for my brother in law. I guess I gave a wrong click.

Never made a mistake like that in the years I've been on the net.

I grovel for forgiveness...

Mike

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:37:00 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Dist Won't seat

>with a file just a little bit and it dropped right in! The truck still
runs
>bad though. I think my next move will be checking the intake manifold seal
>down by the lifter valley 'cause the #1 plug is still fouling. Heck, I may
>trash the current intake (Offie Port-O-Sonic) in favor of a Weiand Stealth.
>
>John Z.

There's a neat trick I learned on the fordnatics list for checking
vacuum leaks, using a propane torch. Turn the gas on as low as you can and
run it along all the mating faces. If you come across a vacuum leak the RPMs
will increase. BTW don't light the torch!
I have used this method a number of times with great success. Best of
all there's no mess to clean-up when your finished.
Later!


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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:30:44 -0500 (EST)
From: A64F100 aol.com
Subject: gas tanks.. FYI..

Hey, I thought I'd share a tip with everybody.. I'm in the process of
relocating the gas tank on my '64 Effie. Didn't like the cab tank, so I did
like a lot of others do and threw it out, and began my search for a good
tank. After 2 to 3 weeks of searching boneyards and comparing gas tanks, I
found one. It came out of a late 70's Ford Granada and fits right between the
framerails behind the rear axle. However, I did have to relocate the spare
tire, and I have to cut out a crossmember there, but all in all it's a good
fit. The tank is aproximately 22 gallons, and has a bent filler neck, I'm
considering the filler options, but I'll probably just get a straight neck
and put it up through the bed. Well, good luck to anyone else who's doin
this or something similar.

Later,
Scott Loechel

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:51:02 PST
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: Pomona Swap Meet

>>Wanted to let everyone know that the Pomona Swap Meet, at the
>>Los Angeles County Fair Grounds in Pomona, is this Sunday
>>the 23rd of November.
>>
>>Its every 6 Sundays. But have not seen a date for January.
>>Ill post the Info. number on Monday.
>>
>>dopie
>
>Great! If other members are going, perhaps we can meet. Does anyone
want to
>pick a place we can meet at?
>
>
>Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net

Deacon,

Sounds great!!
Pick a time? (about 8:30 I gota drive from West Hills in the Valley)
Place? Umm how about the main ticket gate?

dopie
parts chimp by trade


______________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:57:28 PST
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: duh

>SORRRY!
>
>That was meant for my brother in law. I guess I gave a wrong click.
>
>Never made a mistake like that in the years I've been on the net.
>
>I grovel for forgiveness...
>
>Mike
>

Dont fell to bad about it.
I thought it was pretty good.

dopie
parts chimp by trade

______________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:18:03 -0600
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure

I've done a quick and dirty job of it--better than flushing-- take off the
oil pan, the valve covers and the intake manifold and steam clean it top
and bottom. Oil it immediately. Put on new pickup tube. Replace pan, covers
and manifold. Put in fresh oil, prime. Put distributor back in and fire up.

More work than a flush, safer also. Less work than a complete teardown.

- ----------
> From: Gary, 78 BBB
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure
> Date: Sunday, November 16, 1997 1:44 AM
>
> > From: danadeb pacbell.net
> > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:08:38 -0800
> > Subject: Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure
>
> > I had a thought that would act as you described regarding oil
> > pressure loss.
> >
> > If for some reason the oil might be draining too slowly back to the
> > oil pan. Under this condition the engine would have oil pressure for
> > a while then suddenly lose pressure, you shut off the engine and the
> > oil has time to drain back, start it up and the whole process starts
> > all over again! At low engine speeds there may be just enough time
> > for the oil to get back to the pan but at higher speeds maybe not?
>
> There is a thing called windage but this usually isn't a factor ttll
> you get way up there like 6 grand or so but your comment reminded me
> that there is another reason, plugged drain holes in the lifter
> gallery or heads will slow the return or hold so much oil in the top
> end that the pump cavitates. If the pump cavitates for 5 seconds
> every 30 seconds the oil gauge would read low but would be steady
> since it's response time is slow. You can't see a cavitating pump in
> the gauge, any gauge IMHO unless it's just plain out of oil.
>
> Pull the valve covers off and take a look. If it's sludged up this
> could be the problem. Now you have to decide whether to take a
> SERIOUS chance of destroying the engine with flushing compounds or
> taking it apart to clean it up.
>
> Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
> with no oil in the front end?
>
> -- Gary --
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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:26:01 -0600
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: Sudden loss of oil pressure

Newer engines hold tighter factory tolerances, read less emissions. This is
one of the reasons for lighter oil recommendations out of Detroit. If it is
an older or rebuilt engine, then requirements may be different. Many will
have a viscosity- temperature chart which shows 20w50 for extreme
temperatures.

- ----------
> From: Sleddog
> To: 'fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net'
> Subject: RE: Sudden loss of oil pressure
> Date: Sunday, November 16, 1997 12:22 PM
>
> i thought it was for economy (gas mileage) as the thinner oil robs less
HP.
>
> sleddog
>
>
> Unless I were continuously driving in Death Valley at 120+ degrees I
> would never use 20w50 in anything except perhaps a heavy truck diesel
> and I'm not even sure that's appropriate. New vehicles all come with
> 5w30 recommendation including trucks. The reason is that the oil has
> to be thin enough to get into all the cracks and crannys in the
> engine with sufficient volume to cool and lubricate the parts.
> Cooling is the oil's second most important function and it can't do
> it if it isn't flowing.
>
> Is a 4 wheeler really a 4 wheeler
> with no oil in the front end?
>
> -- Gary --
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>
>
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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:26:55 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

Deacon

If you could only send WAV's!

Dana

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:36:23 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

deconblu wrote:
>
>
> If you take the chrome off you will know if it's salvageable. Then you can
> make an educated decision on whether you should or shouldn't keep it.


That's my point! I don't think I could get the chrome off now without bending it
up but if I wait until I have a new seal then I could cut the rubber a save the
chrome. But if it is rusted out then there is no point!

What do I do????????????

"I'm so confused"

( A imaginary $1.00 to the first person to correctly identify who and on what TV
show the above quote is known from)

Dana

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:40:13 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: duh

One day without driving your truck or using your PC!

Dana

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:24:09 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Mac's and rubber parts

>That's my point! I don't think I could get the chrome off now without
bending it
>up but if I wait until I have a new seal then I could cut the rubber a save
the
>chrome. But if it is rusted out then there is no point!


I wonder what tomorrow has in mind for me?
Or am I even in it's mind at all?
Perhaps I'll get a chance to look ahead and see.
Soon as I find myself a crystal ball.
Soon as I find myself a crystal ball.

But tell me, tell me where I'm going,
I don't know where I've been,
Tell me, tell me, wont you tell me
And then tell me again.

My heart is breaking,
My body's aching,
And I don't know where to go.
So tell me, tell me, wont you tell me
I just gotta know.

Crystal Ball

You have come to one of many crossroads in life my son. One may worry
about how to remove it without messing it up only to trash it putting it on.
Just think how old it will look next to the new windshield. Sorry, the Magic
8 Ball says... Hey, you don't believe in Magic 8 Balls do ya? :)

>What do I do????????????
>
>"I'm so confused"
>
>( A imaginary $1.00 to the first person to correctly identify who and on
what TV
>show the above quote is known from)
>Dana

And you lose the imaginary $1.00 if you don't know the songs name and the
band that played it. Hey, it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp
Styx!


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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:55:46
From: Paul
Subject: Hear, hear...misc ford ramblings.....

I'll be doing some wrench turning on the ol'truckster soon and was
contemplating changing the intake manifold with something that would give
better performance. I read the lists regularly and see the Weiand Stealth
mentioned the most but was told by the parts dudes it was no longer
available for an FE engine but I could get a Weiand Hi-rise. Anyone have
experience with this particular manifold? How does it compare with the
stealth? I want to stay away from the single plane stuff and keep the low
end torque of the dual plane.
A dual exhaust system with headers is in the works (2-1/2 pipe) but I've
got an aux fuel tank mounted on the left side in between the frame rails
behind the cab. This will force the left exh-pipe to the right of the
drive shaft along side the right exh-pipe and got me thinking of having....


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