fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, November 6 1997 Volume 01 : Number 337
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In this issue:
Re: Twin I Beam Caster&Camber [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 351 ?"M"? [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Re:I found the problem! ["deconblu" ]
Re: I found the problem! [danadeb pacbell.net]
What am I doing on line at 12:15 am ? [danadeb pacbell.net]
351M Power? [Jim Craig ]
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 23:56:20 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Twin I Beam Caster&Camber
Both caster and camber ARE adjustable! It takes special axle bending and
twisting tools that most shops don't have. Try a frame shop. Also I saw
at Pep Boys (just kidding ) at Winston Tire that there is a kit that
allows caster adjustments by putting a special bushing in where the bolt
goes through the axle and radius rod, or something like that.
Now I not saying that Dave is wrong. ( I'm sure that his book is just
mistaken) I just hate to be wrong!( gee I guess you all have figured
that out by now ) and when I have a book that has sooooo much accurate
info in it, it can't be wrong! ( it predicted my 289 timing chain going
out at 160000 miles, If only I had bought the book a month earlier )
Oh well I'll let it die now ( right or wrong )
> You tell em Dana!
> Dave Resch must think we're stupid. Nothing starts with an "N" so why
> would "M" stand for nothing! Gez, some people think they can say anything!
> Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
> Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage
> -----Original Message-----
> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re: 351 ?"M"?
> >Dave Resch wrote:
> >> >From: abbott
> >> >Subject: 351 ?"M"?
> >> >
> >> >I want to clear this up once for all, I've heard too much contadictory
> >> >talk. What does the "M" in 351"M" stand for, plane "M", "Midland",
> >> >"Michigan", or "Modified"?
> >> >Thanks
> >> >- -Tyler-
> >> You guys...
> >> I'm on the digest at the office and I go home for the night, figurin'
> >> right w/ the world and day dreamin' about next weekend's automotive
> >> projects (whatever I can squeeze in between the obligatory garage
> >> "cleaning" work), and all Heck breaks loose w/ you guys bad-mouthin' my
> >> very favorite Honkin' Henry motor... Sheeesh!!
> >> According to Tom Monroe in the epic book "How to Rebuild Ford V8 Engines"
> >> that tells all you could ever want to know about the great 335 series
> >> (351C/351M/400) and 385 series (429/460) engines, the "M" stands for...
> >> nothin'
> >> No Michigan, no Modified, no Mojo, no Mo-Betta, or whatever.
> >> Ford used the "M" just to differentiate between the 351C, 351W, and 351M
> >> engines, all of which share the same displacement, but are different
> >> engines.
> >> M-block engine (351M/400) blocks were cast at both the Cleveland foundry
> >> and the Michigan Casting Center, as were the cylinder heads. M-block
> >> engines share only the heads with their 351C brother, they have different
> >> blocks, manifolds, cranks, rods, and pistons. There are a handful of
> >> parts that will interchange, but the only major components that
> >> between the 351C and M-blocks are the heads.
> >> The 351M is actually a de-stroked 400, using the same block, heads,
> >> manifolds, and rods, but a different crank (0.50" shorter stroke) and
> >> pistons. The 351M does not use the 351W crank, as someone suggested.
> >All I can say is see page 15, in Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl, S-A
> >Publishing Co.
> >This book covers Small block, Big block FE and Cleveland and they say it
> >uses, and I quote "...Ford engineers 'modified' the 400 by installing
> >351W crankshaft in the 400 block"
> >Also the 400 has the same crank journal diameters as the 351w crank. the
> >351c has smaller ones.
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:40:18 -0800
Subject: Re: Re:I found the problem!
> Well Deacon, it's your punishment for trying to pose as me on
> the 'natics list last week... THAT otta teach You!
I have no idea what you are talking about!
> Wow, there's one I haven't seen before...
> I think before You put it back together You need to make sure the
> valve isn't stuck shut. I dunno what else would break it unless
> it was just a bogus rocker shaft.
It's got me. The valve moves everything looks normal. Can't see any Abby
Normal spot in the metal. Crap oil? Poor maintenance? there's signs of this
> You can probably fish it out with a magnet on a stick, but it's
> probably best to pull the intake to make sure the lifter isn't
> damaged also.
I found the exhaust lifter had come out and jammed up the intake pushrod and
that's how it broke.
> Now's a great time change the cam and lifters!
> How about a nice 4-bbl manifold while You're at it. (-:
OK, no one had more fun than you with the "Teddi won't let you have tires"
digs. Now you suggest this? Well that leaves me with two questions:
1) Which room is mine?
2) Does she have a sister?
> Yeah, wear Your back brace!
> My condolences dude...
> Hippie motoring,
Come on Bro. It's not that far of a drive! Look, you drive 60 miles for a
part. 200 miles for a date. Couldn't you just come down here to help a
friend? I'll buy a 12 pack. You drink Lucky don't you?
Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 00:08:51 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: I found the problem!
My '56 273 "Y" block ran on 15 push rods for years!
Just leave it alone and save your self some time! :)
No flames please!
I am just kidding about not fixing it!
The 273 part is true though!
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 00:12:47 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: What am I doing on line at 12:15 am ?
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 04:17:21 -0600
From: Jim Craig
Subject: 351M Power?
I bought a used '77 with a 351M. The first thing that I did was to
rebuild the engine. I have heard that this one is essentially a "torque"
motor, but you play with what you have lying around. I am searching for
horsepower and have already had the bore enlarged, shaven a hair off the top
of the block added an, Edelbrock cam, manifold, and carb. I added a Jacobs
ignition when I rewired the truck(that was not fun). I am throughly pleased
with the noticable torqe increase--the truck will smoke the tires for a good
ways even with 3.08s spinning 31s; however, I use this truck to commute to
Clemson and desire more top end horsepower without losing the low end torque.
I am thinking about swapping in higher compression pistons along
with new heads and a more radical camshaft. With all this talk about my....To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User
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