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fordtrucks61-79-digest Wednesday, November 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 335



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In this issue:

RE: Engine RUST !! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
"M" [am14 chrysler.com]
Mercury 2V w/Automatic [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: 351 ?"M"? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: Seats ?? [Sleddog ]
RE: Engine RUST !! [Sleddog ]
Re: It's a York ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: It's a York [Don Grossman ]
Re: 351 ?"M"? ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: Engine RUST !! ["deconblu" ]
335 Series Engines [Keith Srb ]
Re: '78 E250 not starting after towing ideas? ["Gary, 78 BBB"
RE It's a York [Tom Hogan ]
Re: 351 ?"M"? ["Dave Resch"]
Re: 351 ?"M"? ["Jason K. Schechner" ]
Re: Engine RUST !! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
NP435 [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: It's a York [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: NP435 ["George Shepherd" ]
RE: 335 Series Engines [Sleddog ]
Duraspark retro question [shoman p3.net]
Re: RE It's a York [Don Grossman ]
Re: It's a York [Don Grossman ]
I found the problem! ["deconblu" ]
Re: Duraspark retro question ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: RE It's a York [Keith Srb ]
Re: 335 Series Engines [SARHOG aol.com]

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:37:48 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Engine RUST !!

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Engine RUST !!
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:25:09 -0500

> setting this way or hung as you said. but, a crank may sit for much
> longer than a couple of minutes on its side.

Sorry, I was just emphasizing that it shouldn't be stored that way
:-) Got carried away :-(

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:39:26 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: "M"

M=Modified
>What does the "M" in 351"M" stand for, plane "M", "Midland",
"Michigan", or
"Modified"
Azie

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:43:47 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Mercury 2V w/Automatic

This is an educated guess, but one I believe to be fairly close.
1961-1967. approx 250 to 275 hp.
>Can anybody tell me what years and what horsepower did the Mercury have
the
390 2V Engine

Azie

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:02:25 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 351 ?"M"?

> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:48:04 -0800
> From: abbott
> Subject: 351 ?"M"?

> I want to clear this up once for all, I've heard too much
> contadictory talk. What does the "M" in 351"M" stand for, plane "M",
> "Midland", "Michigan", or "Modified"? Thanks -Tyler- Tyler

The consensus now seems to be that the 351C was upgraded with larger
mains, 4" stroke and taller deck height but retained the SB bore
spacing to create the 400. When 351W became a sourcing problem they
de-stroked the 400 to create the 351M or modified. Some of these
were made in the Midland plant thus the confusion but they are still
cleveland blocks and all 3 are 335 series engines :-)

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:53:21 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Seats ??

uh, well, uh, i don't know what to say . . . . . . .at least i am average?

anyway, amazing what difference that little thing like that makes. i mean the apostrophe-quotation mark thing.

sleddog

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From: Dale and Donna Carmine[SMTP:dcarmine inetnebr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 1997 11:38 PM
To: Ford Trucks
Subject: Re: Seats ??

Sleddog said;
>they are very large, very wide and fit in so that i (6"+)
>can fit in, but would like 1-2 inches more room.

um...ah....let's see now....6 inches plus????.......what part of the
anatomy are we referring to???? :-)

later
dale c





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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:01:40 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Engine RUST !!

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 3:37 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: RE: Engine RUST !!

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Engine RUST !!
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:25:09 -0500

> setting this way or hung as you said. but, a crank may sit for much
> longer than a couple of minutes on its side.

Sorry, I was just emphasizing that it shouldn't be stored that way
:-) Got carried away :-(

i thought as much, but i didn't want to see someone too worried to put it
down to take a rest while trying to build their engine. those things are
heavy, especially the 460! i know the weight is much less, but i had a 4
cyl yamaha 600 crank sitting around on its side for at least 6 monthes. no
measurable creep set in and it worked fine (never should've sold that drag
bike). like i said, the crank was ALOT lighter. i always thought they
would store nicely in a box completely surounded by that spray foam packing
stuff, but don't really want to try it.

sleddog


Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --






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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:56:20 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: It's a York

> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 18:16:45 -0800
> From: Don Grossman
> Subject: It's a York

> problem turning that pump. If you are looking for a source of air
> for your truck I think this is about the best set up there is. You
> can be up and running for about $60 bucks from the P-n-P and a few
> little parts from the store. I need to pick up a pressure switch
> just for insurance and clean up the wiring. It is really getting to
> look like a pot of noodles under the hood.

Ok, Don, what pump did you use. I have 3 or 4 A/C compressors but I
understand they don't oil very well as air compressors? Thought
about a truck air brake compressor but most of them are way to slow
to suit me. The next idea was to get an air compressor like Campbell
Housfeld and adapt and A/C clutch to it. Which way did you go?

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 08:10:28 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: It's a York

deconblu wrote:
>
> >I finally got it installed on the engine and a power source via jumper
> >wire and fired it up. I had to fix the little brush deal to get it
> >power. they are still available new $35 a pop. A little electrical
> >tape and it was good as new until I get to P-n-P and grap all of them.
> >That little sucker pumps out some air. At idle it takes about 3 min. to
> >fill a 10 gallon tank. give her a little gas and you better watch the
> >guage. I gave it a little rev for about 10 sec. and it went from 40 psi
> >to 55 psi in a hurry.
>
> What kind of pump is this Don. I've been trying to come up with an idea
> to be able to use my air tools running off my truck. I'm not really ready to
> start putting it together yet (having enough crap going now to last the rest
> of my life) but I was contemplating a compressor of some sort and using an
> air conditioner compressor clutch and pulley on it.

Deacon, It's a York!

Really it is a York compressor used for air conditioning in the 60-70
and I think in some cars until the 80's so there should be lots of them
arround. Next time you go to the "Used Automotive Parts Store" (sound
better than Junk Yard?) Loot for a 60 or 70's F truck with an air
compressor and grab the compressor, brackets and the pully off the
crank. Some with the air option came with power steering so you could
grab that too. I really should have replaced the water pump before
putting all these extra brackets on cus' they all have to come off to
replace the pump ;-(

> On another note:
> I would like some tire suggestions. I'm looking for something that can
> handle heavy loads. I've also been considering white spoke wheels. The truck
> will be doing a lot of freeway driving and will not be going off road. I
> think it will need a tire that is narrower than these rims are made for. If
> you really do want these rims Don, let me know. I'll be up there next Labor
> day for a visit.

When you go tire shopping just look at the rating on the side of the
tire. There is also a load rating for the wheels also. Remember that
the rating is for each tire. so if your tires have a rating of 3100 lbs
( that would be in the D range I think) x 4 tires =12400 lbs that your
tires could support. This is in a perfect world here. Anyway, this
is also at max inflation say 60 psi. If you don't plan on running fully
loaded air the tires down a bit. The max inflation on my Dunlop Mud
rovers is 50psi, I think, and I only run about 35 on the back. This
softens up the ride a little but the tire is still a little over
inflated. You want the contact patch to just reach from the outside
edge of the tread to the inside edge of the tread for equal wear and
load distribution. I did a little burn out the other day( not enough to
smoke'em just see how much tire was touching the ground) and there was
about an inch on each side that was untouched. With that utility bed on
there loaded down with tools I think you will be running max psi in the
tires. Just keep looking the the max load rating on any wheels and
tires you buy.

YES I do want those rims. Gona do the Hog Farm thing hu? I'll tell
Wavy to save a Peace Pop for ya.
> Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:10:06 -0600
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: 351 ?"M"?

400 M is modified from 302 C specs.
351 M is 400 M, destroked to 351 with a Windsor crank.

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> From: Don Grossman
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: 351 ?"M"?
> Date: Tuesday, November 04, 1997 7:58 PM
>
> "Mostly junk" ;-)
>
> I just couldn't resist.
>
> My vote is for Modified
>
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
>
> 63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
> steering, power brakes, and ON BOARD AIR!!!
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:21:09 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Engine RUST !!

>> From: Sleddog
>> Subject: RE: Engine RUST !!
>> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:25:09 -0500
>
>> setting this way or hung as you said. but, a crank may sit for much
>> longer than a couple of minutes on its side.
>
>Sorry, I was just emphasizing that it shouldn't be stored that way
>:-) Got carried away :-(
>
>Broncos really are supposed
>to have brakes aren't they?
>
>-- Gary --

Hey, this is the first time. Your forgiven. This is the first time isn't it?
:)


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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:54:44 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: 335 Series Engines

>cleveland blocks and all 3 are 335 series engines :-)

What does the 335 designate?

Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:51:05 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: '78 E250 not starting after towing ideas?

> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 21:00:42 -0600
> From: Nathan Lane
> Subject: '78 E250 not starting after towing ideas?

> can't look at tag from out of state). I tried and tried to start
> it...it just wouldn't catch but would fire and stumble for a few
> seconds then die. I'm heading back to Montana and I'd like to get it
> running. Could it be that it is a hill facing UPhill whereas before
> it was on level ground?

What I do is spray Hot shot in the carb with air cleaner off and if
it trys to start I make sure I have plenty of battery and fuel in the
tank, check the hoses to make sure there are no leaks. Found one in
the inlet side of the fuel pump after I put on a new fuel pump and it
still didn't work, Duuuuuuh! Couldn't work cuz is was sucking air
through the break in the inlet hose!

Make sure you have plenty of battery if you use any kind of fuel
through the top of the carb so you can suck the fire back in if it
back fires and ignites spilled fuel etc.. Just keep cranking till
the fire goes out and have some large heavy rags available to toss on
top if that doesn't work. For God's sake don't spill too much! It
can get ugly!

If you use gas, pour in about 2 - 3 Oz at a time and set the gas can
out of the way, jump in, hold it to the floor and crank til it goes
or obviously aint going.

What you have is probably no accellerator pump, old fuel pump and
leaky lines, sticking float needles etc. which make it hard to start
if it's not run every day.

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:35:48 -0800
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: RE It's a York

Don,
Great idea!! I remember my dad did something similar for our shop air
compressor. You have to use a piston style compressor like the York.
Definately put the pressure cutoff switch in, I'd hate to see what would
happen if the compressor just kept pumping. One thing I do remember
about this conversion is that you have to put refrigerant oil in the
compressor or it will sieze. I can't remember where but maybe someone
on the list knows.

One question, do you have air conditioning in addition to this
conversion? Or did you use the stock location for the A/C compressor
for the air compressor? (Ok so two questions!)


Tom H
San Francisco, California
76 F-150 SuperCab 390FE
96 Windstar 200 hp 3.8L (Wife's Hot Rod)




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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 18:16:45 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: It's a York

NO not the little peppermint thing, the air compressor.

I finally got it installed on the engine and a power source via jumper
wire and fired it up. I had to fix the little brush deal to get it
power. they are still available new $35 a pop. A little electrical
tape and it was good as new until I get to P-n-P and grap all of them.
That little sucker pumps out some air. At idle it takes about 3 min. to
fill a 10 gallon tank. give her a little gas and you better watch the
guage. I gave it a little rev for about 10 sec. and it went from 40 psi
to 55 psi in a hurry.

When the pump comes on at idle the engine doesn't miss a beat. You have
to listen real close to here the rpm drop. The 390 has no problem
turning that pump. If you are looking for a source of air for your
truck I think this is about the best set up there is. You can be up and
running for about $60 bucks from the P-n-P and a few little parts from
the store. I need to pick up a pressure switch just for insurance and
clean up the wiring. It is really getting to look like a pot of noodles
under the hood.

Happy trucking
- - --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

- ------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:49:42 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: 351 ?"M"?

>From: abbott
>Subject: 351 ?"M"?
>
>I want to clear this up once for all, I've heard too much contadictory
>talk. What does the "M" in 351"M" stand for, plane "M", "Midland",
>"Michigan", or "Modified"?
>Thanks
>- -Tyler-
You guys...

I'm on the digest at the office and I go home for the night, figurin' all's
right w/ the world and day dreamin' about next weekend's automotive
projects (whatever I can squeeze in between the obligatory garage
"cleaning" work), and all Heck breaks loose w/ you guys bad-mouthin' my
very favorite Honkin' Henry motor... Sheeesh!!

According to Tom Monroe in the epic book "How to Rebuild Ford V8 Engines"
that tells all you could ever want to know about the great 335 series
(351C/351M/400) and 385 series (429/460) engines, the "M" stands for...
nothin'

No Michigan, no Modified, no Mojo, no Mo-Betta, or whatever.

Ford used the "M" just to differentiate between the 351C, 351W, and 351M
engines, all of which share the same displacement, but are different
engines.

M-block engine (351M/400) blocks were cast at both the Cleveland foundry
and the Michigan Casting Center, as were the cylinder heads. M-block
engines share only the heads with their 351C brother, they have different
blocks, manifolds, cranks, rods, and pistons. There are a handful of small
parts that will interchange, but the only major components that interchange
between the 351C and M-blocks are the heads.

The 351M is actually a de-stroked 400, using the same block, heads,
manifolds, and rods, but a different crank (0.50" shorter stroke) and
pistons. The 351M does not use the 351W crank, as someone suggested. The
351M crank is a unique casting. In the mid-to-late '70s, Ford marketing
literature claimed some Torinos were equipped with the 351 Cleveland engine
(which was last produced in 1972), but it was actually the 351M engine,
which lead some people to refer to it as the "Modified Cleveland."

Unfortunately, the 351M was a child of the '70s (with the EPA as
Godparent), so it was shipped with a weenie 8.0:1 compression ratio and
rated at only 5 hp more than a 302 of that time. However, with the careful
application of some Cleveland goodies and proper treatment, you can build a
400 that will go toe to toe with a 460 big block, with about 200 lbs less
weight.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:53:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jason K. Schechner"
Subject: Re: 351 ?"M"?

On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Don Grossman wrote:

> "Mostly junk" ;-)
>
> I just couldn't resist.
>
> My vote is for Modified

I still think it's for Mutilated.

- -Jason
79 Bronco (351M, C6, 33" BFG AT's) GRN GYNT - offroad monster
79 Bronco (400M, C6, 31" Wranglers) blue - BGHOSS (coming soon)
95 Mustang GT - LTLHOS - Eibachs, 3.55's, K&N, 13deg timing
84 Kawasaki GPz550 - TNYHOS - to make up for the Broncos' appetite

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:45:11 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Engine RUST !!

> From: "deconblu"
> Subject: Re: Engine RUST !!
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:21:09 -0800

> Hey, this is the first time. Your forgiven. This is the first time
> isn't it? :)

WeeeeeEeeelllllllL.................................

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:09:14 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: NP435

Don't know what the 'N' means, but if you have an
NP435, it will take the 360/390. I have two (2) F350's with NP435's
and have found them to be very reliable and TOUGH.

>While under my 68 F100 I noticed a "N" with what looks like a sun
around it would this be the NP435 tranny?????Being that its
hooked up to a small block will it handle a 360/390 if

Azie

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:46:14 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: It's a York

>
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 18:16:45 -0800
>From: Don Grossman
>Subject: It's a York
>
>NO not the little peppermint thing, the air compressor.
>
>I finally got it installed on the engine and a power source via jumper
>wire and fired it up. I had to fix the little brush deal to get it
>power. they are still available new $35 a pop. A little electrical
>tape and it was good as new until I get to P-n-P and grap all of them.
>That little sucker pumps out some air. At idle it takes about 3 min. to
>fill a 10 gallon tank. give her a little gas and you better watch the
>guage. I gave it a little rev for about 10 sec. and it went from 40 psi
>to 55 psi in a hurry.
>

Gee, I like the little peppermint ones...

So what's the max PSI You can get out of it?
You're not gonna get 'em all... I'm headed to P'n'P now! (-:

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty

Measure it with a micrometer,
mark it with chalk,
cut it with an axe...

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:32:37 -0600
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: NP435

NP stands for New Process(a gear making company)


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> From: am14 chrysler.com
> To: Fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: NP435
> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 1:09 PM
>
> Don't know what the 'N' means, but if you have an
> NP435, it will take the 360/390. I have two (2) F350's with NP435's
> and have found them to be very reliable and TOUGH.
>
> >While under my 68 F100 I noticed a "N" with what looks like a sun
> around it would this be the NP435 tranny?????Being that its
> hooked up to a small block will it handle a 360/390 if
>
> Azie
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:02:12 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 335 Series Engines

the stroke of the crank i believe, as the 385 series (429-460) the 385 denotes the crank stroke.

sleddog

- ----------
From: Keith Srb[SMTP:herbie netvalue.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 11:54 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: 335 Series Engines

>cleveland blocks and all 3 are 335 series engines :-)

What does the 335 designate?

Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"







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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 15:38:28 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Duraspark retro question

While junkyard hunting I found a 82 Lincoln with a 302 and duraspark II
I proceded to remove all items and went to work on my 68 302
My problem is that the distributor gear on the 82 is just a bit taller
then the 68's...When I compared the 82's to the 69 351 i have
on a stand the gears are identical in size...Can I switch the
68's gear over to the 82 durasprak dist?????
Joe
68 F100 No SPARK right now

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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:05:09 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: RE It's a York

Tom Hogan wrote:

> One question, do you have air conditioning in addition to this
> conversion? Or did you use the stock location for the A/C compressor
> for the air compressor? (Ok so two questions!)

No and Yes
> Tom H
> San Francisco, California
> 76 F-150 SuperCab 390FE
> 96 Windstar 200 hp 3.8L (Wife's Hot Rod)

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:11:48 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: It's a York

sdelanty sonic.net wrote:

>
> Gee, I like the little peppermint ones...
>
> So what's the max PSI You can get out of it?
> You're not gonna get 'em all... I'm headed to P'n'P now! (-:
>
> Happy motoring,
>
> Steve Delanty

I only ran it up to about 80 psi last night. It hasn't been run for a
while and just wanted to make sure it ran. I will probably pull it up
to 120 this afternoon, after I get to some of that wiring.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:18:04 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: I found the problem!

Hi Gang!
I don't understand! I did my positive confession. I spoke highly of the
old FE! Why, I just want to know why? How could it do this to me? OK, so
this morning I pull the cap, rotor, plugs and wires. I do a compression
check and when I get to #5 nada! OK, so I'm not getting my high tech SunPro
Compression tester in there good enough. So I stick my thumb over the hole
and hit the remote starter, suck in, blow out, suck in, blow out. Hey, that
not be right! So I pull the valve cover off and laying there like it had
nothing to do was the exhaust rocker arm with the end of the rocker arm
shaft still in it. Next to it, the intake rocker arm is pointing it's head
down in the pushrod hole and it's butt in the air like some kind of Greek
bar mitzvah. Hey now, I know there's suppose to be a pushrod there keeping
you safe from sneakers! So I look down the hole... There it is, well half of
it anyway! Dang nabit! I got to pull this heavy sum bit intake off to find
the rest of the dang gum pushrod!
I called the parts house and the rocker arm shaft is $11.ea. and
pushrods are $5.ea. so no big expense to repair, add gaskets and $400. of
Ford blue and gloss black rattle can. I be done!
So any words of wisdom, tips, pointers, warnings, fingers, grins,
giggles or belly laughs, lets have em! I'm all beers! I've taken 7
Polaroid's to mark the vacuum lines. I know tape with numbers on them is a
lot more fun but hey, I would like to get through this one without the
little grease covered tape I can no longer read or the line #7 that means
absolutely nothing to me any more.
Hey Ken I did this whole post with out any foul or abusive language. Do
I get a star? Hey, what the hell, it's worth a try!
Later! :)


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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:51:53 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Duraspark retro question

> From: shoman p3.net
> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 15:38:28 -0800
> Subject: Duraspark retro question

> problem is that the distributor gear on the 82 is just a bit taller
> then the 68's...When I compared the 82's to the 69 351 i have on a
> stand the gears are identical in size...Can I switch the 68's gear
> over to the 82 durasprak dist????? Joe 68 F100 No SPARK right now

Are they the same diameter? The bottom of the gear (teeth toward the
bottom) should measure 4" to the bottom of the base flange where is
sits on the block. If they are the same diameter and have the same
tooth count and this dimension is within 0.010" either way it should
bolt right in.

The gear should be inverted (smaller hub is up) so the teeth are
toward the the bottom on both distributors, if not the new design may
not work as is. Since the gears are drilled at assy. after being
pressed on the shaft the holes are not to a standard and thus they
are not readily interchangeable but they can be interchanged with a
little forthought and ingenuity. Usually all it takes is to press
them on and rotate them 180 from the unmatched position to get them
close enough to get a pin in but not always. You may need to find
the best fit and run a 1/8" (as I recall, mic the pin to be sure)
drill through them assambled to open up the hole for the pin. It's a
press fit roll pin so it needs to be close or the pin will fall out
in operation.

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 15:02:02 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: RE It's a York

At 01:05 PM 11/5/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Tom Hogan wrote:
>
>> One question, do you have air conditioning in addition to this
>> conversion? Or did you use the stock location for the A/C compressor
>> for the air compressor? (Ok so two questions!)
>
>No and Yes

So does anybody have any suggestions as to mounting the air compressor if
you have A/C? My 74 has A/C but l wouldn't mind having an air compressor
with me at the lake, to blow up all of water toys I pull behind my boat (be
nice now.)

>> Tom H
>> San Francisco, California
>> 76 F-150 SuperCab 390FE
>> 96 Windstar 200 hp 3.8L (Wife's Hot Rod)
>
>--
>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>
>
>63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
>steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!
>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+....


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