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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, October 27 1997 Volume 01 : Number 316



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In this issue:

Re: distributor update [SARHOG aol.com]
Re: Whazzidoo light [Ken Ahrens ]
Re: Whazzidoo light [danadeb pacbell.net]
'77 Door Hinges [Jerry & Lisa ]
Re: 72 Ford/Nfores [Tred123 aol.com]
Re: 5 Speed and an FE ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: '77 Door Hinges ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: '77 Door Hinges [danadeb pacbell.net]
RE: Whazzidoo light [DC Beatty ]
Torque Specs.... [Brian & Jacque Milbrandt ]
Re: Whazzidoo light [Ken Ahrens ]
Re: Whazzidoo light [danadeb pacbell.net]

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 18:50:21 -0500 (EST)
From: SARHOG aol.com
Subject: Re: distributor update

In a message dated 97-10-26 14:05:18 EST, you write:


All Ford distributores have this number stanped or cast into them. >>

Try this #....C8VF-12131-B31 is on the old one, C8VF-12131-B44 is on the new
one. Hmmm...does that last number difference mean anything?


work properly since it will fail soon after you run it due to the forces on
the bushing etc. >>

Apparently, that is what the last owner did. What do you mean by "soon"?
The truck ran good for the first 2 months I owned it, with good oil
pressure...don't know how long that distributor was in there before that.


carbon, aluminum etc. and the bottom hole for burrs, signs of being
hammered which may have caused the hole to be out of round etc.. >>

Checked both holes for build-up, burrs, damage and they both look good.


so that it interferes with the installation. >>

Would the engine run like that? Keep in mind, the truck ran o.k. considering
the timing was probably moving plus or minus 30 degrees. After seeing that
loose gear on the distributor, I'm suprised it ran at all! I could probably
just re-pin the gear on the old one, but I figured since I already got a new
distributor, I should make it fit by grinding it, or put all the new
internals in the old body. What do y'all think? With the weather we been
havin' lately, my motorcycle is lookin' forward to the truck gettin' fixed!

John Z.
67 F-100 460/C-6

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:25:49
From: Ken Ahrens
Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light

Steve,

I would wager that if you found the other end of the wires, one would be
at the brake distribution block, probably on the left frame rail about where
the clutch mechanism is. Also, if you take the bezel and lens out, it will
have the word "brake" on the lens which is not legible unless it is lit up.

If that's what it is, it is to indicate an imbalance between the front/rear
"systems". If you rip a brake line or one chamber of the master cylinder is
way down for whatever reason, the light is supposed to come on to warn you.

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At 12:43 PM 10/26/97 -0800, you wrote:
> Hey Y'all,
> My '71 F100 has this red light on the dash, at the extreme lower left
> corner, just above the parking brake.
> It's about 3/4" diameter with a chrome trim ring around it and matches
> the general F100 "decor", but I always thought that some previous owner
> had added it for some unknown purpose.
>
> Soooo, today I was gonna take it out so I could use the hole for
> something else. But when I went to disconnect it I realized that it
> is stock stuff. The light has a purple wire and a red w/yellow wire
> that go right into the stock wiring harness. It's a very factory
> looking job, I'm sure now that it was a stock item.
>
> So does anyone know what this light is 'sposed to indicate?
> I'm afraid now that it'll come on some day and I won't know what to do...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Delanty
>
> Measure it with a micrometer,
> mark it with chalk,
> cut it with an axe...
>
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Ken Ahrens/kahrens tisd.net
presently residing at Magnolia Beach, Texas
72 Bronco, 302-3spd w/Hurst, 266cam, Duraspark. L/S rear
65 Plymouth Sport Fury 383-auto, 40k actual miles
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:30:23 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light

Ken Ahrens wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I would wager that if you found the other end of the wires, one would be
> at the brake distribution block, probably on the left frame rail about where
> the clutch mechanism is. Also, if you take the bezel and lens out, it will
> have the word "brake" on the lens which is not legible unless it is lit up.
>
> If that's what it is, it is to indicate an imbalance between the front/rear
> "systems". If you rip a brake line or one chamber of the master cylinder is
> way down for whatever reason, the light is supposed to come on to warn you.
>
> ----------------------------------------------


Ken,

You hit the nail on the head! My distribution block is frozen so my
light
is on all of the time (well it was on all of the time till I
disconnected
it from the distribution block )

Dana

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:33:01 -0800
From: Jerry & Lisa
Subject: '77 Door Hinges

Hi all, got a couple questions for ya. Our old truck has the sag in the
doors, guess gravity got the better of them finally. Anyway, we need
some ideas on where to get replacements; new or used.
What is the best way to go? Do newer model truck hinges work on '70s
models or are they different. We are interested basically in the best
price.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Gerald & Lisa
'77 F150 351M 4x4

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:38:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Tred123 aol.com
Subject: Re: 72 Ford/Nfores

Decoded as follows

F10 F-100(4x2)
Y 360CIDV8
L Assembled Michigan Truck
N Built Februuary 1972
Color T Candyapple Red
Model F-104 Gvw 5500
Body V Ranger XLT
Trans G = C-4 Auto
Axle H2 = Limited Slip 3.50

Hope this helps

Fred

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:47:37 -0600
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

Hey, it held up in an F600--that had to have a bit of twisting. I don't
think my Bronco will break it.

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> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE
> Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 10:36 AM
>
> >
> >Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:01:31 -0500
> >From: "George Shepherd"
> >Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE
> >
> >Looks like what I want to do is klug together a 280v for 7.48 first and
a
> >280vo for .80 fifth.
> >
>
> But You end up with a tranny only rated at 330Ft/lbs.
> Is that gonna be enough for You?
> Even a relatively stock FE390 is good for 400+ft/lbs.
> I think I'd break the 280 series...
>
> Happy motoring,
>
> Steve Delanty
>
> Measure it with a micrometer,
> mark it with chalk,
> cut it with an axe...
>
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:05:33 -0600
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: '77 Door Hinges

Those are oilite bearings and pins and should be rebuildable. Might be
worth a ream job and oversize pins.

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> From: Jerry & Lisa
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: '77 Door Hinges
> Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 12:33 AM
>
> Hi all, got a couple questions for ya. Our old truck has the sag in the
> doors, guess gravity got the better of them finally. Anyway, we need
> some ideas on where to get replacements; new or used.
> What is the best way to go? Do newer model truck hinges work on '70s
> models or are they different. We are interested basically in the best
> price.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Gerald & Lisa
> '77 F150 351M 4x4
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:07:40 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: '77 Door Hinges

Two thoughts:

1) try your local Ford dealer they have alot of parts still the trick is
to find a counter person to look in the right books! ( harder then it
seems )

2) Knock out the old pins, drill out the holes and install oversize new
ones. At one time I bought a kit from the Ford dealer for this purpose.


Parts that, in the past year, are available from Ford:

1970 F250 Left and right window regulators, Cardboard glove box insert,
horn button plastic retainer.


Be persistent and make sure they look in the book before they look in
the computer.

good luck

Dana

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:39:02 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: Whazzidoo light

Hey Steve. =


It's for the parking brake. The little red piece of plastic should say
"BRAKE" on it if it's still there. I guess it's also hooked up to the
electric sensor on the master cylinder to tell you if your brakes have qu=
it
working. Like you need the light, right? =


Hey all you guys in the Midwest. Just so you know, the blizzard that just=

whacked me is headed your way! Enjoy! =


DC Beatty
1967 F100 352
1974 Maverick 302

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From: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 1997 1:44 PM
To: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Whazzidoo =




My '71 F100 has this red light on the dash, at the extreme lower left
corner, just above the parking brake.
It's about 3/4" diameter with a chrome trim ring around it and matches
the general F100 "decor", but I always thought that some previous owner=

had added it for some unknown purpose.

Soooo, today I was gonna take it out so I could use the hole for =

something else. But when I went to disconnect it I realized that it
is stock stuff. The light has a purple wire and a red w/yellow wire
that go right into the stock wiring harness. It's a very factory
looking job, I'm sure now that it was a stock item.

So does anyone know what this light is 'sposed to indicate?
I'm afraid now that it'll come on some day and I won't know what to do.=
=2E.

Thanks,

Steve Delanty

Measure it with a micrometer,
mark it with chalk,
cut it with an axe...>>>

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 23:13:20 -0500
From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt
Subject: Torque Specs....

I can't find my book !! Can someone help me out with the torque specs
for the mains and rods on a '71 429/460. This will allow me to get a few
things done till I can locate my book !!

Thanks, Brian

'64 F100 shortbox
'78 F150 4x4
'96 F150 4x4 shortbox
'97 J**P wrangler

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 03:11:06
From: Ken Ahrens
Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light

Dana,

There is a way to turn it off - I only had to do it once after working on
the brakes. Not sure but I think you depress the brake pedal hard and then
turn the ignition on and back off - something like thatl

Later, Ken>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will

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>> have the word "brake" on the lens which is not legible unless it is lit up.
>>
>> If that's what it is, it is to indicate an imbalance between the front/rear
>> "systems". If you rip a brake line or one chamber of the master
cylinder is
>> way down for whatever reason, the light is supposed to come on to warn you.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>
>
>Ken,
>
>You hit the nail on the head! My distribution block is frozen so my
>light
>is on all of the time (well it was on all of the time till I
>disconnected
>it from the distribution block )
>
>Dana
>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
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>
>
- ----------------------------------------------------------
Ken Ahrens/kahrens tisd.net
presently residing at Magnolia Beach, Texas
72 Bronco, 302-3spd w/Hurst, 266cam, Duraspark. L/S rear
65 Plymouth Sport Fury 383-auto, 40k actual miles
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 01:06:21 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light

Ken,
Thanks for the thought. Tried the brake thing a few times. I traced the
wires once and it just goes from ground through the light to the switch
then to a 12v source. ( or something like that, it's not a very
intelligent thing )

The distribution block has a piston in it that when both brake systems
are working correctly stays centered. After a brake bleed you do a final
bleed on the rear system (i think) this pushes the piston from the front
system toward the rear system and when the light goes out the piston is
centered. ( or that's the theory ) I think there is also a tool you can....


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