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Return-Path: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 03:50:22 -0700 (MST) From: owner-fordtrucks61-79-digest To: fordtrucks61-79-digest Subject: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #316 Reply-To: fordtrucks61-79 Sender: owner-fordtrucks61-79-digest fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, October 27 1997 Volume 01 : Number 316 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks61-79-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: distributor update [SARHOG Re: Whazzidoo light [Ken Ahrens ] Re: Whazzidoo light [danadeb '77 Door Hinges [Jerry & Lisa ] Re: 72 Ford/Nfores [Tred123 Re: 5 Speed and an FE ["George Shepherd" ] Re: '77 Door Hinges ["George Shepherd" ] Re: '77 Door Hinges [danadeb RE: Whazzidoo light [DC Beatty ] Torque Specs.... [Brian & Jacque Milbrandt ] Re: Whazzidoo light [Ken Ahrens ] Re: Whazzidoo light [danadeb ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 18:50:21 -0500 (EST) From: SARHOG Subject: Re: distributor update In a message dated 97-10-26 14:05:18 EST, you write: All Ford distributores have this number stanped or cast into them. >> Try this #....C8VF-12131-B31 is on the old one, C8VF-12131-B44 is on the new one. Hmmm...does that last number difference mean anything? work properly since it will fail soon after you run it due to the forces on the bushing etc. >> Apparently, that is what the last owner did. What do you mean by "soon"? The truck ran good for the first 2 months I owned it, with good oil pressure...don't know how long that distributor was in there before that. carbon, aluminum etc. and the bottom hole for burrs, signs of being hammered which may have caused the hole to be out of round etc.. >> Checked both holes for build-up, burrs, damage and they both look good. so that it interferes with the installation. >> Would the engine run like that? Keep in mind, the truck ran o.k. considering the timing was probably moving plus or minus 30 degrees. After seeing that loose gear on the distributor, I'm suprised it ran at all! I could probably just re-pin the gear on the old one, but I figured since I already got a new distributor, I should make it fit by grinding it, or put all the new internals in the old body. What do y'all think? With the weather we been havin' lately, my motorcycle is lookin' forward to the truck gettin' fixed! John Z. 67 F-100 460/C-6 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:25:49 From: Ken Ahrens Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light Steve, I would wager that if you found the other end of the wires, one would be at the brake distribution block, probably on the left frame rail about where the clutch mechanism is. Also, if you take the bezel and lens out, it will have the word "brake" on the lens which is not legible unless it is lit up. If that's what it is, it is to indicate an imbalance between the front/rear "systems". If you rip a brake line or one chamber of the master cylinder is way down for whatever reason, the light is supposed to come on to warn you. - ---------------------------------------------- At 12:43 PM 10/26/97 -0800, you wrote: > Hey Y'all, > My '71 F100 has this red light on the dash, at the extreme lower left > corner, just above the parking brake. > It's about 3/4" diameter with a chrome trim ring around it and matches > the general F100 "decor", but I always thought that some previous owner > had added it for some unknown purpose. > > Soooo, today I was gonna take it out so I could use the hole for > something else. But when I went to disconnect it I realized that it > is stock stuff. The light has a purple wire and a red w/yellow wire > that go right into the stock wiring harness. It's a very factory > looking job, I'm sure now that it was a stock item. > > So does anyone know what this light is 'sposed to indicate? > I'm afraid now that it'll come on some day and I won't know what to do... > > Thanks, > > Steve Delanty > > Measure it with a micrometer, > mark it with chalk, > cut it with an axe... > >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 >| Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks61-79-request >+---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ > > - ---------------------------------------------------------- Ken Ahrens/kahrens presently residing at Magnolia Beach, Texas 72 Bronco, 302-3spd w/Hurst, 266cam, Duraspark. L/S rear 65 Plymouth Sport Fury 383-auto, 40k actual miles - ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:30:23 -0800 From: danadeb Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light Ken Ahrens wrote: > > Steve, > > I would wager that if you found the other end of the wires, one would be > at the brake distribution block, probably on the left frame rail about where > the clutch mechanism is. Also, if you take the bezel and lens out, it will > have the word "brake" on the lens which is not legible unless it is lit up. > > If that's what it is, it is to indicate an imbalance between the front/rear > "systems". If you rip a brake line or one chamber of the master cylinder is > way down for whatever reason, the light is supposed to come on to warn you. > > ---------------------------------------------- Ken, You hit the nail on the head! My distribution block is frozen so my light is on all of the time (well it was on all of the time till I disconnected it from the distribution block ) Dana ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:33:01 -0800 From: Jerry & Lisa Subject: '77 Door Hinges Hi all, got a couple questions for ya. Our old truck has the sag in the doors, guess gravity got the better of them finally. Anyway, we need some ideas on where to get replacements; new or used. What is the best way to go? Do newer model truck hinges work on '70s models or are they different. We are interested basically in the best price. Thanks in advance for any help. Gerald & Lisa '77 F150 351M 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:38:33 -0500 (EST) From: Tred123 Subject: Re: 72 Ford/Nfores Decoded as follows F10 F-100(4x2) Y 360CIDV8 L Assembled Michigan Truck N Built Februuary 1972 Color T Candyapple Red Model F-104 Gvw 5500 Body V Ranger XLT Trans G = C-4 Auto Axle H2 = Limited Slip 3.50 Hope this helps Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:47:37 -0600 From: "George Shepherd" Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE Hey, it held up in an F600--that had to have a bit of twisting. I don't think my Bronco will break it. - ---------- > From: sdelanty > To: fordtrucks61-79 > Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE > Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 10:36 AM > > > > >Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:01:31 -0500 > >From: "George Shepherd" > >Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE > > > >Looks like what I want to do is klug together a 280v for 7.48 first and a > >280vo for .80 fifth. > > > > But You end up with a tranny only rated at 330Ft/lbs. > Is that gonna be enough for You? > Even a relatively stock FE390 is good for 400+ft/lbs. > I think I'd break the 280 series... > > Happy motoring, > > Steve Delanty > > Measure it with a micrometer, > mark it with chalk, > cut it with an axe... > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 > | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks61-79-request > +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:05:33 -0600 From: "George Shepherd" Subject: Re: '77 Door Hinges Those are oilite bearings and pins and should be rebuildable. Might be worth a ream job and oversize pins. - ---------- > From: Jerry & Lisa > To: fordtrucks61-79 > Subject: '77 Door Hinges > Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 12:33 AM > > Hi all, got a couple questions for ya. Our old truck has the sag in the > doors, guess gravity got the better of them finally. Anyway, we need > some ideas on where to get replacements; new or used. > What is the best way to go? Do newer model truck hinges work on '70s > models or are they different. We are interested basically in the best > price. > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Gerald & Lisa > '77 F150 351M 4x4 > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 > | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks61-79-request > +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:07:40 -0800 From: danadeb Subject: Re: '77 Door Hinges Two thoughts: 1) try your local Ford dealer they have alot of parts still the trick is to find a counter person to look in the right books! ( harder then it seems ) 2) Knock out the old pins, drill out the holes and install oversize new ones. At one time I bought a kit from the Ford dealer for this purpose. Parts that, in the past year, are available from Ford: 1970 F250 Left and right window regulators, Cardboard glove box insert, horn button plastic retainer. Be persistent and make sure they look in the book before they look in the computer. good luck Dana ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:39:02 -0500 From: DC Beatty Subject: RE: Whazzidoo light Hey Steve. = It's for the parking brake. The little red piece of plastic should say "BRAKE" on it if it's still there. I guess it's also hooked up to the electric sensor on the master cylinder to tell you if your brakes have qu= it working. Like you need the light, right? = Hey all you guys in the Midwest. Just so you know, the blizzard that just= whacked me is headed your way! Enjoy! = DC Beatty 1967 F100 352 1974 Maverick 302 - ---------- From: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 Sent: Sunday, October 26, 1997 1:44 PM To: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 Subject: Whazzidoo = My '71 F100 has this red light on the dash, at the extreme lower left corner, just above the parking brake. It's about 3/4" diameter with a chrome trim ring around it and matches the general F100 "decor", but I always thought that some previous owner= had added it for some unknown purpose. Soooo, today I was gonna take it out so I could use the hole for = something else. But when I went to disconnect it I realized that it is stock stuff. The light has a purple wire and a red w/yellow wire that go right into the stock wiring harness. It's a very factory looking job, I'm sure now that it was a stock item. So does anyone know what this light is 'sposed to indicate? I'm afraid now that it'll come on some day and I won't know what to do.= =2E. Thanks, Steve Delanty Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with an axe...>>> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 23:13:20 -0500 From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt Subject: Torque Specs.... I can't find my book !! Can someone help me out with the torque specs for the mains and rods on a '71 429/460. This will allow me to get a few things done till I can locate my book !! Thanks, Brian '64 F100 shortbox '78 F150 4x4 '96 F150 4x4 shortbox '97 J**P wrangler ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 03:11:06 From: Ken Ahrens Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light Dana, There is a way to turn it off - I only had to do it once after working on the brakes. Not sure but I think you depress the brake pedal hard and then turn the ignition on and back off - something like thatl Later, Ken>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will - ------------------------------- >> have the word "brake" on the lens which is not legible unless it is lit up. >> >> If that's what it is, it is to indicate an imbalance between the front/rear >> "systems". If you rip a brake line or one chamber of the master cylinder is >> way down for whatever reason, the light is supposed to come on to warn you. >> >> ---------------------------------------------- > > >Ken, > >You hit the nail on the head! My distribution block is frozen so my >light >is on all of the time (well it was on all of the time till I >disconnected >it from the distribution block ) > >Dana >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks61-79 >| Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks61-79-request >+---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ > > - ---------------------------------------------------------- Ken Ahrens/kahrens presently residing at Magnolia Beach, Texas 72 Bronco, 302-3spd w/Hurst, 266cam, Duraspark. L/S rear 65 Plymouth Sport Fury 383-auto, 40k actual miles - ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 01:06:21 -0800 From: danadeb Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light Ken, Thanks for the thought. Tried the brake thing a few times. I traced the wires once and it just goes from ground through the light to the switch then to a 12v source. ( or something like that, it's not a very intelligent thing ) The distribution block has a piston in it that when both brake systems are working correctly stays centered. After a brake bleed you do a final bleed on the rear system (i think) this pushes the piston from the front system toward the rear system and when the light goes out the piston is centered. ( or that's the theory ) I think there is also a tool you can.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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