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fordtrucks61-79-digest Sunday, November 30 1997 Volume 01 : Number 371



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In this issue:

Questions on 69 f250 [shoman p3.net]
Re: F350 Centurion ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: Mom & Dad ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: Neat places that might be of interest for parts.... ["Michael Redden"]
Re: Questions on 69 f250 [Don Grossman ]
351 W/M [abbott ]
Re: Exempt or not, DMV's reply [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Questions on 69 f250 ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: Chrome & Mom & Dad [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: How to detect C6 Slippage [Ken Payne ]
Re: chrome [Ken Payne ]
Re: Mom & Dad [Ken Payne ]
Re: Paint ["JAMES MERLO" ]
62 steering box seals ["Dave Walbeck" ]
Re: Mom & Dad [danadeb pacbell.net]
Speaking of bumpers! [danadeb pacbell.net]
Ford Options [Randy Collins ]
swap I6 for 302 [Duane Richards ]

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:39:21 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Questions on 69 f250

I have some questions on the 69..1)Is there a conversion for power
steering box type in stead of the slave type I have now???2)I heard that
slave type is an expensive item to find????Is it strong or like i said
is there a box and linkage i can use????3) Is there a front axle that
i can swap that will have disc brakes/and 8 lugs?????I know its
a dana 44 now and i could do that Che*y swap...any other late model
saxles work??
Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"
1969 F-250 4x4 390 ????? "Undecided Future"

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:42:54 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: F350 Centurion

Bill said;
>everyone starts pointing fingers at each other, the dealer, FoMoCo and the
>conversion company. The end result is your truck in the shop for many days
>over and over for the same problem.

Sounds like your typical dealer service experience, just check out the 80-up
list for the horror stories. That's why I'll never give my "old" truck for
a new one! It is definitely "Tried and True"

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M
York, Nebraska

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:50:24 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Mom & Dad

Dana said;
>Thanks to all who responded. and to "dad" Deacon for the wisdom!

Let's see now......Ken is the "list Mom".......Deacon is the "list
Dad".........no wonder the kids are so strange. :-)

BTW Dana did you R&R the windshield, or just pull the chrome? I need to
change my windshield and am looking for tips, I've had mixed results in the
past.

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M
York, Nebraska

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:02:33 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Neat places that might be of interest for parts....

FORDTRKNUT:

Thanks for the addresses of the salvage yards. I should be able to use
them, as I live in the general area. My old F-250 Heavy Duty Special ('71),
is in pretty good shape. For $100, I think I got lucky! I also got the Mac
and Obselete Ford catalogues. That should help too.

Thanks to everyone for my VIN help.

mike

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:08:07 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Questions on 69 f250

shoman p3.net wrote:
>
> I have some questions on the 69..1)Is there a conversion for power
> steering box type in stead of the slave type I have now???2)I heard that
> slave type is an expensive item to find????Is it strong or like i said
> is there a box and linkage i can use????3) Is there a front axle that
> i can swap that will have disc brakes/and 8 lugs?????I know its
> a dana 44 now and i could do that Che*y swap...any other late model
> saxles work??
> Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"
> 1969 F-250 4x4 390 ????? "Undecided Future"

I will skip #1

#2 is yes, kind of and yes

#3 Yep. you can use a 76-79 Dana 44 or 78-79 Dana 60 out of a Ford. If
you have the small 6" knuckles you could just swap for Che*y parts or
Do*ge parts for that mater. Changing out the entire axle for a Do*ge or
Che*y would require a t-case change as well.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:29:22 -0800
From: abbott
Subject: 351 W/M

In the years of 351 W/M (both Windsor's & M's offered), what were the
deciding factors that put each engine in a truck? Was it a total Customer
option, or were there diferent resions.
Thanks.
- -Tyler-
Tyler

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:41:47 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Exempt or not, DMV's reply

GMPACHECO wrote:
>
> Its about time ! Tho it did pass with flying colors its just another cost



Huh????????????????

Dana

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:44:24 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: Questions on 69 f250

>3) Is there a front axle that
> i can swap that will have disc brakes/and 8 lugs?????I know its
> a dana 44 now and i could do that Che*y swap...any other late model
> saxles work??

How 'bout a late model Ford? My 79 F250 has 8 lugs and disc brakes. Just be
sure that when you get a newer axle you check on the lug stud size. Newer
Ford axles have 9/16" studs and yours probably has 1/2" so you will need
new lug nuts.

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:50:31 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Chrome & Mom & Dad

I just pulled the chrome. I am going to order a new seal. The rope trick is the
only way I know to put in a windshield and seal.

Even though every thing I read says no sealer is needed I think I am going to
use some. Any pros or cons?

Dana

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:21:33 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: How to detect C6 Slippage

At 12:00 PM 11/28/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a C6 myself and I just have a "gut feeling" that it is slipping, but is there
>a definate way to tell without taking it into a shop?

In my case it took 3-4 seconds to shift gears, unless it was
coasting and I let off the gas.


>
>>Well, with the long hours I'm working I finally took it
>>to a shop I trust. The clutches were shot and one of the
>>cooling lines had a kink in it (causing heat problems).
>>My milage has, according to my calculations, gone from 8 mpg
>>to12 mpg.
>
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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:22:59 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: chrome

At 08:50 PM 11/28/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Well I got brave and pulled the chrome out of the windshield rubber.
>The chrome pieces are really well built. Even with some prying from a
>screwdriver not even a single ding!
>
>Ken no rust on the chrome! yea! Also I have seen a few 73-up and the windshield
>rubber is not as I had thought it was it looks exactly like the 72-down even the
>chrome looks the same!
>
>While I had the chrome half off I stepped back and took a look!
>
>The result: No chrome looks better! ( to me! )
>
>Dana
>
>
>Thanks to all who responded. and to "dad" Deacon for the wisdom!

Great to hear. I'm going to replace the windshield on my truck this
spring and I'll check out the chrome on the 73+ trucks.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:28:18 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Mom & Dad

At 08:50 AM 11/29/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Dana said;
>>Thanks to all who responded. and to "dad" Deacon for the wisdom!
>
>Let's see now......Ken is the "list Mom".......Deacon is the "list
>Dad".........no wonder the kids are so strange. :-)
>
>BTW Dana did you R&R the windshield, or just pull the chrome? I need to
>change my windshield and am looking for tips, I've had mixed results in the
>past.
>
>later,
>Dale Carmine
>'79 F-150 351M
>York, Nebraska

Ur, um... perhaps I oughta explain "list Mom" to the new people.

When we were a new list there was an ongoing Slick 50, carburator
and milage war going on. Being a new list administrator I didn't
know how to handle it or if I should. I found some mailing list
FAQs and they said this was normal growth. The FAQ suggested I
take the "Den Mother" approach and practice some patience. I
jokingly referred to myself as the "List Mom" since the FAQ said
many admins are called by this name. It stuck.

Now that my wife helps behind the scenes perhaps she oughta be
the list mom and I'll be the list pop.

Ford truck content: does anyone know where to get NOS painted
bumpers? I can find chrome but my truck was a Custom Cab and
came with painted.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:02:24 -0600
From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: Re: Paint

Sal
I have a 62 F350. Are you going for pure restoration? If not, have you
dealt with the issues of front discs or new steering box/system? I am
assuming you are not going to change the whole front clip.I would
appreciate any info you have discovered in these areas. If there is
anything I can do, please ask.

Jim

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> From: Sallucido aol.com
> To: fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net
> Subject: Paint
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 1997 11:04 PM
>
> I'm restoring a 1962 F250 stepside longbed. Should I restore it to it's
> original utility green color or can I paint it any color I want..like
bright
> red..I ask because I don't want to diminish the value of the truck...
>
> Thanks.....Sal
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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:09:33 PST
From: "Dave Walbeck"
Subject: 62 steering box seals

Hi All.
Wondering where to get a seal for the steering box on a 62 manual
gear.(The input seal where the column hooks on) or is the column oil
filled and i'm being stupid. Any help would be appreciated. I'm not that
familiar with these older ones. BTW I'm putting it in a 65 2WD (should
be the same)
Please Email direct
Dave Complete and Total FORDNUT

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:44:18 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Mom & Dad

Ken Payne wrote:
>
>
> Ford truck content: does anyone know where to get NOS painted
> bumpers? I can find chrome but my truck was a Custom Cab and
> came with painted.
>
> Ken
>



My front bumper's chrome is peeling off! I could ship you mine and you ship me
yours! ( just a joke!) (unless you like the idea!)

Dana

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:44:55 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Speaking of bumpers!

Does anyone know if there was a "NON" step type rear bumper for 1970 trucks?

Most of the bumpers I have seen are the step type. I did see a truck with a
bumper that looked like a front bumper on the rear. (it fit correctly so I
assume it was stock.)

Dana

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:04:50 -0800
From: Randy Collins
Subject: Ford Options

List members,

I spent some time today installing a few Ford options in the project truck
today. It now proudly boasts intermittent wipers and cruise control. I
pulled the options from a 1977 2WD and installed them in the 1975 Supercab.
The intermittent wipers installed easily. I followed pointers from the
list and the switch and the control box simply plugged into the line.

The cruse control is a little more complicated but it also unplugs and
installs into the earlier wiring harness just fine. It was so thoughtful
of Ford to center punch the necessary holes simplifying the installation.

Anyone familiar with the differences in the pre '79 cruise control and the
post '79 cruise setups? I heard that the post '79 setups have the resume
feature. Since I already have the resume button on my steering wheel pad
do I just need one of the post '79 control boxes? Is it as simple as just
getting the later model control box and plugging it in? Sounds too easy!

If anyone needs more information on the installation of these drop me a
note and I would be glad to help.


Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins ....


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