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fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, November 28 1997 Volume 01 : Number 369



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In this issue:

need torque spec, please ["J. Oxley" ]
thankgiving [wayside wavecom.net (Robert Patelke)]
Re: Custom Cab Door Pockets [OldTrux aol.com]
Re: WTB Tailgate ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Thanksgiving message [Ken Payne ]
Re: Funny named 4sp OD [Mike Schwall ]
Re: VIN Decode [JVC1968 ]
Re: Funny named 4sp OD [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: VIN Decode [Don Grossman ]
Re: Re: 4 bbl on a 302? [JVC1968 ]
Re: Funny named 4sp OD [Mike Schwall ]
Re: VIN Decode [Mike Schwall ]
Re: Funny named 4sp OD [Steve & Rockette ]
VIN# info [JVC1968 aol.com]
Paint [Sallucido aol.com]
Re: need torque spec, please [Barry Price ]
Re: VIN# info [Barry Price ]
How to detect C6 Slippage ["Michael R. Masse" ]
Re: Paint [Barry Price ]

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:47:09 -0500
From: "J. Oxley"
Subject: need torque spec, please

My crappy Haynes manual doesn't list the torque spec for the front ball
joints, I have a 78 Bronco. Can anyone help.???


Thanks in advance.

OX

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:52:34 GMT
From: wayside wavecom.net (Robert Patelke)
Subject: thankgiving

Thanks to Ken for a great list.

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:48:15 -0500 (EST)
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: Custom Cab Door Pockets

In a message dated 97-11-21 01:54:40 EST, you write:


pockets were an option that was discontinued
sometime prior to '64 >>

They are still shown as an option from Ford in '66

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:48:21 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: WTB Tailgate

Brian,

>A local, good-to-excellent tailgate with the trim would be
>nice to locate -- one with a matching color scheme would be worth its
weight
>in gold. The local wrecking yards have not turned up a decent enough
example
>yet.

Good luck! I found everything around here has rusted out along the bottom,
maybe that's not such a problem in CA.
I bought mine from NAPA for $105, I just moved my old trim to the new
'gate. Looks great!

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M
York, Nebraska

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:31:39 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Thanksgiving message

Thank you to everyone for making the lists the success they
are! Its been great fun! This "little hobby" I started last year
has grown trendously and I have to give credit to the members
who've always been willing to help each other out. Now the
wife is a part of the team!

Have a safe and enjoyable Thanksgiving holiday.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Peggy Payne
Coadministrator, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:51:29 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: Funny named 4sp OD

> The Tremec is a 5 speed trans, rated for about 450# of torque,
>it wouldn't stand a chance behind a 460, or even a well built
>300 I6 for that matter.

What 4 or 5 spd. manual would stay together behind a worked over 460?

Mike

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Email: mikes intx.net
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:07:19 EST
From: JVC1968
Subject: Re: VIN Decode

Can someone point me in the right direction on trying to decode a VIN# and
data plate. I have a '71? F-100 that my brother-in-law and I are trying to
restore and If I could get somebodies E-mail address so I can send the
information too it would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
JVC1968 aol.com

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:12:21 -0800
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Funny named 4sp OD

>
>> The Tremec is a 5 speed trans, rated for about 450# of torque,
>>it wouldn't stand a chance behind a 460, or even a well built
>>300 I6 for that matter.
>
>What 4 or 5 spd. manual would stay together behind a worked over 460?
>
>Mike
>

An NP 435 would, but it's really a 3 speed with a granny gear

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:34:12 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: VIN Decode

JVC1968 wrote:
>
> Can someone point me in the right direction on trying to decode a VIN# and
> data plate. I have a '71? F-100 that my brother-in-law and I are trying to
> restore and If I could get somebodies E-mail address so I can send the
> information too it would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Joe
> JVC1968 aol.com

Anyone here with their Ford Pickup Red Book would be glad to help out.
Just post away.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:43:42 EST
From: JVC1968
Subject: Re: Re: 4 bbl on a 302?

The '65 289 motor was available in 3 different ways as follows:

Code "A" is the 289-4bbl V-8 High Compression/Premium Fuel/Hydraulic Lifter
Code "C" is the 289-2bbl V-8 Low Compression/Regular Fuel/Hydraulic Lifter
Code "K" is the 289-4bbl V-8 High Compression/Premium Fuel/Mechanical Lifter

My 289 was originally the "C" code and was rebuilt it to "K" code specs. which
explains the head swap for the 4bbl. The 2bbl heads were not ported like the
4bbl. Also the lifters had to be changed from hydraulic to mechanical.
The "A" code and the "C" code heads I believe were the same. I will look in
to it some more.

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:30:12 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: Funny named 4sp OD

At 12:12 PM 11/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>> The Tremec is a 5 speed trans, rated for about 450# of torque,
>>>it wouldn't stand a chance behind a 460, or even a well built
>>>300 I6 for that matter.
>>
>>What 4 or 5 spd. manual would stay together behind a worked over 460?
>>
>>Mike
>>
>
>An NP 435 would, but it's really a 3 speed with a granny gear

Is this the one that is on some '73-'79 trucks? I've seen some granny 4
spds at the junk yard. The case on these things are rather big and drop
down low.

What's the torque rating of the NP 435?

Are there any 3spd + OD or 4 spd + OD out there than can handle serious
torque from a worked over 460? (NA and no NOS). I have a 460 laid out on
paper and I am looking at around 550+ HP.

Thanks,

Mike


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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:31:57 -0600
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: VIN Decode

At 12:34 PM 11/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
>JVC1968 wrote:
>>
>> Can someone point me in the right direction on trying to decode a VIN# and
>> data plate. I have a '71? F-100 that my brother-in-law and I are
trying to
>> restore and If I could get somebodies E-mail address so I can send the
>> information too it would be appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
>> JVC1968 aol.com

What's the VIN #?
_____________________________________________

Email: mikes intx.net
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:48:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: Funny named 4sp OD

>Are there any 3spd + OD or 4 spd + OD out there than can handle serious
>torque from a worked over 460? (NA and no NOS). I have a 460 laid out on
>paper and I am looking at around 550+ HP.

The Clark 5 speed is probably the strongest, I used
to drive a 30000# truck that had one.....

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:24:47 -0500 (EST)
From: JVC1968 aol.com
Subject: VIN# info

Here is the information off the door data plate.
F10ANP00189

WB131 / COLOR OM / MODEL F101 / BODY 6_4 / TRANS G / AXL
08

The previous owner said that this truck is a '71 F100 with a 351 engine. I
looked in some service manuals and the 351 was not listed. We are gonna
restore this truck and would like to know all the information before we get
started.
thanks.
Joe
JVC1968 aol.com

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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 00:04:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Sallucido aol.com
Subject: Paint

I'm restoring a 1962 F250 stepside longbed. Should I restore it to it's
original utility green color or can I paint it any color I want..like bright
red..I ask because I don't want to diminish the value of the truck...

Thanks.....Sal

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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 03:48:07 -0500
From: Barry Price
Subject: Re: need torque spec, please

My Chilton's Manual says to tighten them between 50 and 75 ft lbs.

J. Oxley wrote:

> My crappy Haynes manual doesn't list the torque spec for the front ball
> joints, I have a 78 Bronco. Can anyone help.???
>
>

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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:07:14 -0500
From: Barry Price
Subject: Re: VIN# info

What you have is as follows:
F100 (you already knew that).
240 cid 6 cylinder. (150 hp)
Assembled in January or February of 1971
Assembled in Twin Cities, MN (or Norfolk VA, the N and P in the serial number
are throwing me off).
The O in the color code stands for Sea Foam Green and the M stands for Wimbeldon
White (is it two tone?).
The F101 indicates a gross vehicle weight of 4,200 lbs.
The rear end is a 3.5:1
The transmission is a C-6 3 speed automatic.
Not sure what the 6_4 means for the body, this is not listed in my book and not
sure what the WB131 is either.
Hope this helps.

Barry Price


JVC1968 aol.com wrote:

> Here is the information off the door data plate.
> F10ANP00189
>
> WB131 / COLOR OM / MODEL F101 / BODY 6_4 / TRANS G / AXL
> 08
>
> The previous owner said that this truck is a '71 F100 with a 351 engine. I
> looked in some service manuals and the 351 was not listed. We are gonna
> restore this truck and would like to know all the information before we get
> started.
> thanks.
> Joe
> JVC1968 aol.com
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:00:00 -0600
From: "Michael R. Masse"
Subject: How to detect C6 Slippage

I have a C6 myself and I just have a "gut feeling" that it is slipping, but is there
a definate way to tell without taking it into a shop?

>Well, with the long hours I'm working I finally took it
>to a shop I trust. The clutches were shot and one of the
>cooling lines had a kink in it (causing heat problems).
>My milage has, according to my calculations, gone from 8 mpg
>to12 mpg.

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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:09:27 -0500
From: Barry Price
Subject: Re: Paint

Depends on what you are going to do with it. If you are going to restore it for
show, then go original (if you want to enter the original category). Otherwise
it's just your personal preference in my opinion.

Sallucido aol.com wrote:

> I'm restoring a 1962 F250 stepside longbed. Should I restore it to it's
> original utility green color or can I paint it any color I want..like bright
> red..I ask because I don't want to diminish the value of the truck...
>
> Thanks.....Sal....


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