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fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, November 13 1997 Volume 01 : Number 350



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In this issue:

C-6 weight [am14 chrysler.com]
429/460 rods [am14 chrysler.com]
RE Slipping C6 [Tom Hogan ]
Re: What's the timing for FE engine? [Tom Hogan
429/460 rods [Randy Collins ]
RE Gauges [Tom Hogan ]
Re: Slipping C6 tranny ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Gauges 73-79 Tach [STCLASSICS aol.com]
Re: Slipping C6 tranny [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: 300 distributer problem [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Stumbles on takeoff [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Stumbles on takeoff [Keith Srb ]
Hi i need some tips to know what i've bought [Thierry Delattre
Re: Gauges [mark heims ]
Re: c6-weight ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
CustomBodyWork [RCCRAZZZY aol.com]
Re: Slipping C6 tranny ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: c6-weight [DC Beatty ]
Re: Hi i need some tips to know what i've bought [Barry Price
Re: What's the timing for FE engine? [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Gauges ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: Slipping c6 ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Tire sizes ["Daniel H. Jenkins" ]
Re: Tire sizes [Don Grossman ]
Clark update [Don Grossman ]
re: c6 weight ["mei home.com" ]
RE: Stumbles on takeoff [GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)]
Re: Gauges [Randy Collins ]

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:38:05 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: C-6 weight

My educated guess is somewhere in the neighborhood of 150/160lbs with
torque convertor installed. I've pulled/installed a few - never
actually weighed one.

>>Hopefully this weekend will be free. Next question... just how
heavy is a C6???


Azie

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:45:36 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: 429/460 rods

Does this mean any truck 460 after 1976 would have these rods installed
from the factory??? (D='60 thru '69,and 6 being year specific for 1st
year production) Right??????

>>>I found a set of the heavy duty Ford 429-460 rods that I was looking
for.
I am still not certain if the later heavy duty rods are identical to
the
early Cobra Jet rods, but I think they are. For those that are
interested
the late model rods are D6VE.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:48:38 -0800
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: RE Slipping C6

Ken,
In order to find out how much your C6 weighs why don't you put psycho
b!+ # under the truck and let it drop!!!!

BTW are you having to deal with her directly?? When I had a similar
claim I dealt directly with the insurance adjuster; never talked to the
woman that hit me after I got the insurance information from her.

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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:49:52 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Slipping c6

Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I still haven't
had a chance to check it out. The truck has been parked since
last week.

I've been dealing with a insane woman with this accident I had.
In addition to claiming that I rammed her she also says that I
called her racial slurs. Within 2 minutes of the impact a police
officer drove by and stopped. Neither myself nor this &*(^&( ^(*!
woman had even been out of our vehicles before the cop showed up
so there's no way I could have said anything to her.

At least she's insured (I'm surprized). I filed a claim against
her today.

I hope to get this tranny taken care of this week. I really
want to do the work myself but I may be faced with having
to trust someone else to do it as I'm extremely short on time.

Hopefully this weekend will be free. Next question... just how
heavy is a C6???

Ken

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:59:16 -0800
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: Re: What's the timing for FE engine?

I recently set the timing on my '76 390. The mechanic had set it to 6
degrees when I took it in for smog. Before that it had run really well.
When I got it back the throttle response was way down. The sticker on
my valve covers lists 16 degrees as the spec. I set it there and the
motor really woke up!! Remembering the same advice that Gary is giving
below I startet to experiment. I got all the way to 34 degrees before I
got a SLIGHT knock. I backed it back down to 28 degrees and have been
running it there. I'd say experiment with it as Gary describes. I
don't know of any other basic adjustment that can free up available
power more that the timing.

Question, If I can run this much advance then could the motor handle an
increase in static compression ratio if I back the timing off? Not
something I'm going to do tomorrow but will keep in mind for the next
rebuild.



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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:47:47 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: What's the timing for FE engine?

> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 18:19:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Paul
> Subject: What's the timing for FE engine?

> the shop manual refers me to, you guessed it, the decal. Whats the
> usual timing figure for a 1975 390? I'm just looking for a ballpark
> figure that I can start from. The vacum advance diaphram on the

Older systems had more advance and it's actually gone up and down but
usually if you start with about 8 deg initial with vac disconnected
it will run, then you test for spark knock and just keep advancing it
till you get knock at low rpm with load and back off a degree or so.

One clue is if it kicks when you crank it you need to back it off
(retard it some). If the exhaust manifolds get red you need to
advance it some :-)


Do we have the right
spares in our beast?

- - -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:07:38 -0800
From: Randy Collins
Subject: 429/460 rods

Does this mean any truck 460 after 1976 would have these rods installed
from the factory??? (D='60 thru '69,and 6 being year specific for 1st year
production) Right??????

You are partially correct. C=60, D=70 and E=80. The second digit is the
year.

When I first heard of the rods I though maybe that they were only installed
the in the BIG truck. But I think you are correct, they were installed in
all trucks after 1976. They are identical to the Cobra Jet rods because
those rods would have a C9xx or D0xx number. The passenger car rods that
came in most 429's and 460's are numbered D0OE. I think that all of these
rods have the same C9xx cap.



Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck"
(wanna be 460 SUPER COBRA JET)
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
460 C-6 R-CODE :)

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:08:21 -0800
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: RE Gauges

Check out:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x4now.com/4wsupply.htm

Lood under the electrical section. You can access the AutoMeter web
page and see the online catalog. They have more gauge type available
than you may want to deal with!!

The only way I can think of to put an indash tach in is to ditch the
stock instrument cluster and replace it with aftermarket gauges. You
would have to design a panel for them to go in and then rewire them in.
I've been wanting to do this but when I do I want to use as much of the
stock wiring harness as possible.

Another idea that just came to me, If you don't have air conditioning
you may be able to mount a mini tach above the headlight/windshield
wiper switch panel.


Tom H
San Francisco, California
76 F-150 SuperCab 390FE
96 Windstar 200 hp 3.8L (Wife's Hot Rod)


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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:26:07 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Gauges

Keith said;
>Hello All,
>If you were going to put a set of after market gauges in your truck:
>1. What gauges would you put in, Tach, Oil Pressure, Water Temp, ETC.
>
>2. Which brand would you use.

Keith,
I would go for all of the above! I agree with Sledogs' comment's about
cheap gauges, I've never had one quit but the accuracy is really poor
on
the cheap stuff.
I have a related question. Does anyone have suggestions for a clean
looking in dash tach for a 73-79? There's gotta be a better way than
hangin' a big old tach on the steering column, (no offense to those who
like
that look).
later,
dale c

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:19:58 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny

> From: DBrents105 aol.com
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:39:54 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny

> I do not agree with the vacuum line and modulator valve causes
> suggested for your symptoms. If you totally disconnect the vacuum

> pressure. Low fluid pressure is generally because of one of the
> following: stuck valve in the valve body, worn internal seals,
> clogged filter, low fluid, worn or damaged front pump, bad torque
> converter. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think it is

I agree, the modulator shouldn't cause this problem. Clogged passage
is more likely IMHO :-)

Do we have the right
spares in our beast?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:38:46 -0500 (EST)
From: STCLASSICS aol.com
Subject: Re: Gauges 73-79 Tach

If your truck has air conditioning, there is'nt anywhere in the dash that
you can put a tach other than way down low where it would'nt be seen. A
non-air cond. truck has a few good spots, Just to the left of the glovebox is
a good place. You can mount 2 or 3 gauges in this spot (small gauges) or
right above the wiper switch is enough room for 1 small (2 inch) gauge. Both
of these areas are where the air cond. vents would be. Your best bet is a
Hood Tach. It looks like a factory setup, it mounts to the hood where you can
see it without taking your eyes off the road and you dont have to cut up your
dash. They come in black or you can paint them to match your truck. J.C.
Whitney sells them and they look almost exactly like the Ford hood tach that
was available back in the late 60's on Mustangs and Torinos. It looks like a
little hood scoop and cost around $ 50.00 in their catalog. I've got one on
my 79 and it looks and works great. Kenny / Street Classics

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:31:59 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny

>
>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:39:54 -0500 (EST)
>From: DBrents105 aol.com
>Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny
>
>I do not agree with the vacuum line and modulator valve causes suggested for
>your symptoms. If you totally disconnect the vacuum line on a C6, it will
>simply stay in first gear. No shift. Maybe a very late shift at about 60MPH
>when you let up on gas. The modulator valve causes similar problems on a C6.
>No shift or late shift. I have never seen one that caused slipping clutches.

A bad sucuum modulator can DEFINATELY cause the symptoms Ken describes,
slipping clutches and all...
I've been there, owned it, driven it, and fixed it before.

Happy motoring,


Steve Delanty



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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:32:03 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: 300 distributer problem

>
>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:25:01 -0500
>From: "s"
>Subject: 300 distributer problem

>He suggested looking for a aftermarket electronic
>or stock points distributer for it..Now I am having problems with the
>distributer not advancing so I am going to replace it.. Anyone have any
>suggestions on what
>distributer to run on it. I havent had any luck finding any aftermarket
>distributers.

A friend of mine just got a nice duraspark2 dist for Her '67 300/6.
We got the distributor, spark box, coil, connectors and wire from
a junk.. err, "experianced auto parts yard" in sacto.
She paid $26 for EVERYTHING!!
Check the dist shaft for side play before You buy, we looked at
about 6-7 before we found one in really nice shape.
Probably will get time to install it in a week or 2...
I love the d-spark dist in my FE!

>Also I will be putting on headers and a Clifford intake.Am not sure what
>carb I will use?? Any input would be helpful.

Cool, We've been thinking of the clifford intake and stuff also,
do You have any prices yet?
Please keep me posted on any info You get from clifford about 300/6
parts!
Does anyone know if Clifford has a website?

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty



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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:32:07 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: Stumbles on takeoff

>>>
>>My 66 F100 has a problem pulling away from stop lights. It stumbles,
>>sometimes will die. I have to rev the engine up to 1500 RPM's or so
>>before
>>I let the clutch out. (yes I know how to drive a vehicle with a with a
>>clutch, I learned to drive in this pickup in 1974.) If I don't, I run
>>the
>>risk of killing the engine. The truck has had this problem for as long
>>as
>>I can remember. I have put several rebuilt carb's on it. I have rebuilt
>>the carb my self several times. I have had the shop hook it up to the
>>"engine analyzer", they said everything appeared to be with in spec for
>>this engine, whatever that means. I have tried advancing the time a
>>little,
>>I have tried retarding the timing a little. I have double and triple
>>checked the distributor to make sure the advance was working, it is.
>>
>>A week and half ago I replaced the stock style muffle with a two
>>chamber,
>>turbo muffler. Now it stumbles worse than it ever did.
>>
>>Anybody got any other suggestions???
>>

Hey Keith, a friend of mine is having very similar trouble with
her 300/6. Rather rough idle and a *very* bad stumble off idle.
She rebuilt the old carb once, bought a new one once, and I rebuilt
the new one once. No difference.
Did a thorough vacuum leak check. Nothing.
The accelerator pump squirts good and the vacuum advance is working
fine...
I found that connecting the dist vacuum advance to manifold vacuum
instead of carb/ported vacuum helped quite a bit.
Her dist shaft has *lots* of side play in it, so we will replace with
d-spark setup soon. At this point it's my feeling that the worn shaft
is causing the points dwell and timing to be all over the place and
may be a big part of the problem.
As the vacuum advance moves the breaker plate, that changes dwell also,
so things may just get too crazy with a badly worn distributor.

We got all the d-spark goods at the wreckers already for $26 (-:
Will probably install it in the next week or 2.
Keep me posted on Your progress, and I'll do the same.
Oh yeah, don't forget to check for a bad PCV valve...

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty



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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:51:24 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: Stumbles on takeoff

At 09:32 AM 11/13/97 -0800, you wrote:
snip

> Hey Keith, a friend of mine is having very similar trouble with
> her 300/6. Rather rough idle and a *very* bad stumble off idle.
> She rebuilt the old carb once, bought a new one once, and I rebuilt
> the new one once. No difference.
> Did a thorough vacuum leak check. Nothing.
> The accelerator pump squirts good and the vacuum advance is working
> fine...
> I found that connecting the dist vacuum advance to manifold vacuum
> instead of carb/ported vacuum helped quite a bit.
> Her dist shaft has *lots* of side play in it, so we will replace with
> d-spark setup soon.

I am going to assume that you got the duraspark parts from a newer 300/6,
correct. Other than that does everything else hook up the same way the V8
setup does?


> At this point it's my feeling that the worn shaft
> is causing the points dwell and timing to be all over the place and
> may be a big part of the problem.
> As the vacuum advance moves the breaker plate, that changes dwell also,
> so things may just get too crazy with a badly worn distributor.
>
> We got all the d-spark goods at the wreckers already for $26 (-:
> Will probably install it in the next week or 2.
> Keep me posted on Your progress, and I'll do the same.
> Oh yeah, don't forget to check for a bad PCV valve...

I just replaced the PCV, plugs, points, wires, rotor and cap less then 5
months ago. When I did that, I checked for side play in the shaft, there
wasn't any "noticeable" play. Since the parts only cost $26.00 Dollars in
your part of the country, I think I will try the new setup anyway.

Thanks Steve.

Later.

Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:36:36 -0500
From: Thierry Delattre
Subject: Hi i need some tips to know what i've bought

Hi, i just bought a 79 F100 for 200$ canadian,
I want to be sure of which engine is in there, i would like to know
where i can fin the I.D. number on the engine because i don't know if
it's a 302 or 351 ?????

And i want some advice,

There's some white sludge on the oil filler cape ( i assume it's a
broken head gasket.

And i would also like to know what is the payload for this truck..

I'll be able to put a picture of this baby on my web site soon..

Thank you in advance for you're help, i'm new to the ford family and i
need this help to start....

I'm located in eastern Canada (Quebec).
- --
Thierry Delattre
thierry hybride.com
F100 wannabe F350 4X4 crew cab some day!!!!

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:52:47 -0700
From: mark heims
Subject: Re: Gauges

When I got my 78, somebody had installed a clock in the area to the left
of the glovebox door, it didn't work and was quite ugly! I removed it,
cut a round hole in the dash for the tach. To angle the tach to the
drivers side, I took an insulated coffee mug (which was the same
diameter as the tach) and cut it at an angle (About 1/2" on the near
side and about 1 1/2" on the far side) to make a bezel (I painted it
black to match my dash), slid the tach in to the homemade bezel, then
the dash and modifed the rear bracket to hold it in place. This made a
neat looking install and is easy to see without blocking the view of the
orginal gauges.

Mark
1978 F150 4x4


- - -----Original Message-----
>I have a related question. Does anyone have suggestions for a clean
>looking in dash tach for a 73-79? There's gotta be a better way than
>hangin' a big old tach on the steering column, (no offense to those who
like
>that look).
>later,
>dale c

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:01:51 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: c6-weight

> From: "mei home.com"
> Subject: c6-weight
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:50:48 -0000

> Got one in my garage they are pretty light---with no fluid of
> course---I can pick it up without putting much strain on my back.

We're not just talking about the housing you know? I used to lift
wieghts and can't remember a time in my life I could just reach down
and pick up a C-6? You're joking right? Course I have chain hoist
for that so maybe I never really tried either :-)

Do we have the right
spares in our beast?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:36:19 -0500 (EST)
From: RCCRAZZZY aol.com
Subject: CustomBodyWork

I own a 78 For bronco fullsize. The first thing I want to do to it is have
the body work taken care of so I was wondering if anyone knows of a good
bodyshop in the massachusetts area that would do custom work also. Any imput
would be appreciated.

Michael
RCCRAZZY AOL.COM

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:23:53 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny

> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:31:59 -0800
> Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny

> A bad sucuum modulator can DEFINATELY cause the symptoms Ken
> describes, slipping clutches and all... I've been there, owned it,
> driven it, and fixed it before.

Yea! I now have the solution to my electronic AOD chatter problem
when shifting into OD. It's the converter clutch, only $650 worth of
parts and labor to fix a Ford screw up. It appears some of the holes
aint big enough to let the oil through fast enough to slam the clutch
home before it slips burning the clutch and eventually ruining it.

BTW, I don't understand how the modulator can affect clutch
pressures? My understanding is that it only pressurizes the piston
that controls the shift but the piston would fully open the valve
when pressurized? Can it be partially pressurized so the valve
doesn't fully open?

Do we have the right
spares in our beast?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:14:18 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: c6-weight

Confirm that. 2 C-6's would be lighter than 1 FMX. Mine tried to kill me
when I took it out last year, and, like a dummy, I went and put it back!!=


DC Beatty
1967 F100 352--FMX of pain.
1974 Maverick 302

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From: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 1997 12:57 AM
To: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re: c6-weight


Probably lighter then an FMX!

Dana

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:07:48 -0500
From: Barry Price
Subject: Re: Hi i need some tips to know what i've bought

If it is a 302 (not very familiar with a 351) it will be on the
passenger side near the rear of the engine next to the oil pan. If you
think that it is the original engine, look on the door and send me the
warranty numbers and I'll look that up for you.

Barry Price

Thierry Delattre wrote:

> Hi, i just bought a 79 F100 for 200$ canadian,
> I want to be sure of which engine is in there, i would like to know
> where i can fin the I.D. number on the engine because i don't know if
> it's a 302 or 351 ?????
>

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:13:18 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: What's the timing for FE engine?

Tom Hogan wrote:
>
> I got all the way to 34 degrees before I
> got a SLIGHT knock. I backed it back down to 28 degrees and have been
> running it there. I'd say experiment with it as Gary describes. I
> don't know of any other basic adjustment that can free up available
> power more that the timing.


Are you saying that you have the initial advance at 28 deg?
If so how does the engine crank. I was playing around with the initial
similarly and when it got up to about 20 or so it would almost not
crank.

Dana

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:54:11 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Gauges

>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:49:00 -0600
>From: "Bear"
>Subject: Re: Gauges
>A good idea that I have seen is to mount it in the bare spot above the
>headlight and wiper switches, there is a bare plastic area that is just
>"screaming" tach or something of the sort. I have seen it but I haven't
>done it... but I know it looks nice and there is plenty of room behind it.

Bear,
Thanks for the idea. I think it would be great for an non-A/C truck.
Unfortunately that area is filled with an air vent on my '79. I have been
thinking of something low profile that would mount above the speedo, round
gauges would definitely not fit though. I've looked in the Whitney and
Summit catalogs and come up with nothing. Seems like I've seen digital
gauges that would fit there but I can't remember where I saw them.
Am I correct in assuming that Ford never offered a factory tachometer in the
73-79 trucks? I don't think I've ever seen one.

later,
dale c

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:20:18 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Slipping c6

>Hopefully this weekend will be free. Next question... just how
>heavy is a C6???
>Ken

Pretty heavy! Many years ago I worked with a guy who changed automatic
transmissions without a jack. He would position himself on a creeper
beneath the tranny and unbolt it, dropping the pan down onto his chest!
Then he would slide out from in under the transmission and lower it to the
ground. He would also put them back in the same way.
I've never been into this form of self abuse and have always used a
jack........but it is possible!

later,
Dale Carmine
'79 F-150 351M

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:00:09 -0800 (PST)
From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
Subject: Tire sizes

Well, I've got two questions. First, I've got an option to buy
four mag wheels for $100. Good deal? Second, what are the biggest tires
I can fit on a 1977 F150 supercab? On 15x7 rims? On 15x8.75 rims?
Thanks to all of you who answer?

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel H. Jenkins Food for thought: John Milton
djenkins honors.unr.edu wrote _Paradise_Lost_; When his
Honors Program wife died he wrote _Paradise_
University of Nevada, Reno _Regained_...

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:40:58 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Tire sizes

Daniel H. Jenkins wrote:
>
> Well, I've got two questions. First, I've got an option to buy
> four mag wheels for $100. Good deal? Second, what are the biggest tires
> I can fit on a 1977 F150 supercab? On 15x7 rims? On 15x8.75 rims?
> Thanks to all of you who answer?

12 or 12.5"s would be pushing it on the 15x7 but would work on the
15x8.75. The tires you are looking at should have some kind of specs
for rim size. The counter guy might have to look that information up
for you in his books. I found a set of 16.5x9.5 (or what ever they are)
slot mags for $150. I am going to pick them up soon.


- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:58:12 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Clark update

I did some crawling around under a 76' F-700 and found a clark. It
was packing a 391. Does the 391 have the same bellhousing pattern as
the 390? howabout the crank flange to bolt on the flywheel? It
definatly had the 13" clutch. The bolt spacing looked the same as the
truck four speeds. I didn't have a tape with me, but I did the old
bailing wire trick. The shifter also looked to be about the same
location inside the cab. The Clark is also much longer. If someone
has a 390 and 391 crank to compare I would like to know. I will just
have to settle moving up to a NP435 for right now, as soon as I replace
the rear pinion seal. If it's not one thing it's another.

BTW: if there are any 71-73 Mustang experts in the list please contact
me via private eMail. I need help with my soon to be new toy right
after January 1. SB42 goes into effect here in CA. he he he
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:47:23 -0000
From: "mei home.com"
Subject: re: c6 weight

That is the entire trans except for fluid and tc. thanks you make me feel strong.



> From: "mei home.com"
> Subject: c6-weight
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:50:48 -0000

> Got one in my garage they are pretty light---with no fluid of
> course---I can pick it up without putting much strain on my back.

We're not just talking about the housing you know? I used to lift
wieghts and can't remember a time in my life I could just reach down
and pick up a C-6? You're joking right? Course I have chain hoist
for that so maybe I never really tried either :-)

Do we have the right
spares in our beast?

- -- Gary --




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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:04:28, -0500
From: GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)
Subject: RE: Stumbles on takeoff

The Carter troubleshooting instructions that I got with my AFB lists
the following solutions for "Loads up or stumbles on acceleration"

Check float level and drop. Reset to specifications.

Excessively rich. Requires leaner rods or jets.

Increase accelerator pump stroke.

Check choke setting, may require richer or leaner setting.

Replace carburetor filter.

You don't say what engine or carb you have, and I doubt that you have
a Carter AFB, but your symptoms should have the same solutions.
(except for the metering rods). Generally "loading up" is caused by a
rich mixture, your float level could be too high, or your needle
valve leaking, or too much fuel pump pressure. Starving on the other
hand can produce similar symptoms. This can be corrected by changing
the accelerator pump stroke and/or resetting the float level.

Dan Lee
"53 F100 351C- 4V

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:29:48 -0800
From: Randy Collins
Subject: Re: Gauges

Thanks for the idea. I think it would be great for an non-A/C truck.
Unfortunately that area is filled with an air vent on my '79. I have been
thinking of something low profile that would mount above the speedo, round
gauges would definitely not fit though. I've looked in the Whitney and
Summit catalogs and come up with nothing. Seems like I've seen digital
gauges that would fit there but I can't remember where I saw them.
Am I correct in assuming that Ford never offered a factory tachometer in....


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