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fordtrucks61-79-digest Monday, November 10 1997 Volume 01 : Number 345



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In this issue:

Re: Found 69 F250 parting out [Don Grossman ]
How to cut sheet metal? [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Found 69 F250 parting out [shoman p3.net]
Slipping C6 tranny [Ken Payne ]
RE: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #337 351M P [Sleddog ]
Re: How to cut sheet metal? [Don Grossman ]
Sheet Metal [Randy Collins ]
429 connecting rods [mcat epix.net]
RE: Slipping C6 tranny [DC Beatty ]
Air Conditioner Compressor [Keith Srb ]
Re: 351 "M" ??? [DBrents105 aol.com]
Re: Auto Trans [DBrents105 aol.com]
Re: 400 small block [DBrents105 aol.com]
Re: Slipping C6 tranny [DBrents105 aol.com]
RE: Slipping C6 tranny [Ken Payne ]
Re: Slipping C6 tranny [Ken Payne ]
RE: Slipping C6 tranny [DC Beatty ]

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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 10:07:16 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Found 69 F250 parting out

I urge you to stop this madness. Stop the killing! We are here to
protect, not destroy. Wield your blue sword on only the creatures
beyond hope. If life still live in the creature show pity and kindness,
a little body work and coat of paint even.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:48:36 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: How to cut sheet metal?

So, speaking of body damage, my F100 has this big long nasty dent
on the pass side, on the corner just behind the door. the corner is
seriously dented in from nearly the bottom all the way up to door
handle hieght. I can't imagine how THAT happens..? Some kind of weird
high speed reverse accident I guess... !?!

Anyway, the obvious easy cure is to cut out the old corner with a
torch, cutoff wheel, etc, and weld in another from the wreckers.

The *problem* is getting the donor piece. The local wreckers won't
allow torches or gas powered tools...

Has anyone out there had any experiance cutting "real truck" sheet
metal with big tin snips? I might go buy/borrow a set of heavy duty ones
if they would work good...
If it was a new little import truck, It would be easy, but this stuff
looks pretty heavy gauge.
Help, I'm lost without my torch and air tools! )-:

Any good suggestions?

Anyone in the sonoma/mendocino/lake county CA area got that little
hunk of truck laying around that I could come torch? C'mon Don,
You must have a body parts donor truck laying around! (-:

Lost without power tools,

Steve Delanty



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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 16:05:09 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Re: Found 69 F250 parting out

Don.
I would love to save this girl but A)she is rotted in the cab 2)she
has no title 3)you cant be the price for parts..Sorry

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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 16:19:22 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Slipping C6 tranny

I wish this were an engine problem because I probably would know
how to diagnose it....

My C6 tranny is slipping, but only between gear changes. The fluid
level looks good and the color of the fluid is still red and clean.
When in gear it drives fine. Whenever the tranny goes to change
gears it takes a long time (3-4 seconds) and revs high. This started
quite suddenly on the way home Thursday. Before that there were never
any problems. I haven't driven it since except to confirm the
symptons today (ride around the block).

If someone could point me in the right direction I can fix it. I'm
up to just about anything short of a complete rebuild as long as I
have my shop manual. It really stinks that this had to happen on
the same day as the accident. I'm fairly certain that they're not
related as the impact was less than 10mph and the tranny coolant
lines have not broken.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:44:50 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #337 351M P

oh, i see, WFO all the time!

ok, maybe you could describe, on the list, or to me privately how you biult
it - as i have thought many times of building a similiar combination but
haven't found much info on it.

sleddog

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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 1997 7:00 PM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Re:fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #337 351M P

sleddog

I don't know. I never drive it under 2000 RPM.

Dan






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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 14:31:43 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: How to cut sheet metal?

sdelanty sonic.net wrote:
>
> So, speaking of body damage, my F100 has this big long nasty dent
> on the pass side, on the corner just behind the door. the corner is
> seriously dented in from nearly the bottom all the way up to door
> handle hieght. I can't imagine how THAT happens..? Some kind of weird
> high speed reverse accident I guess... !?!
>
> Anyway, the obvious easy cure is to cut out the old corner with a
> torch, cutoff wheel, etc, and weld in another from the wreckers.
>
> The *problem* is getting the donor piece. The local wreckers won't
> allow torches or gas powered tools...

> Has anyone out there had any experiance cutting "real truck" sheet
> metal with big tin snips? I might go buy/borrow a set of heavy duty ones
> if they would work good...

Tin snips? If they work? Uh.....

It takes long enough to cut with a torch!

> If it was a new little import truck, It would be easy, but this stuff
> looks pretty heavy gauge.
> Help, I'm lost without my torch and air tools! )-:
>
> Any good suggestions?
>
> Anyone in the sonoma/mendocino/lake county CA area got that little
> hunk of truck laying around that I could come torch? C'mon Don,
> You must have a body parts donor truck laying around! (-:

If it was a 65-66 you were working on I might be able to help. I do
have one of those cabs laying arround and looking for a good home BTW.
;-)

We could alway look for a parts truck and just cut that sucker up!!!
(Note: small attempt at humor here, I don't really mean anything by it)

A lower rear cab patch panel is available. It is in the Mac's
catalog(finaly) and sells for 26.50. It only goes up 14" but that would
save you some of the work. You could just fix the rest yourself with
another piece of sheetmetal.

See if P-n-P is willing to sell you a complete cab, that whay you can
have lots of extra parts. :P

My next guess would be to do the hack-saw or sawz-all blade thing.

Just keep your eye on the hiway and your bottles handy and look for some
road--kill.

> Lost without power tools,
>
> Steve Delanty

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 16:03:44 -0800
From: Randy Collins
Subject: Sheet Metal

Steve or anyone else...

I have a 1977 cab that I will eventually haul to the scrap heap. If anyone
needs sheet metal, send me a template and I would be happy to cut your
pieces for you.

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck"
(wanna be 460 SUPER COBRA JET)
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
460 C-6 R-CODE :)

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 97 18:58:22 PST
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: 429 connecting rods

Some one was looking for info on 429CJ rods vs truck rods. I have
the info about the bolt head style you were asking about. email me
Garry

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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 11/9/97 Time: 6:58:22 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:15:37 -0500
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: Slipping C6 tranny

Ken, =


Does it slip both times it shifts? I'm wondering if somehow the vacuum li=
ne
to the modulator didn't get screwed up in the wreck. Maybe it popped off =
or
got pinched or something. Or, maybe the hard linkage is off a bit now. Ar=
e
all three gears still there? =


I'd check these things and also make sure it still has three gears. My
Maverick revved high between shifts once, and it was because second gear
was no longer there. Hopefully, your problem is more simple. =


DC Beatty

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From: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 1997 2:18 PM
To: INTERNET:fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: Slipping C6 tranny


I wish this were an engine problem because I probably would know =

how to diagnose it....

My C6 tranny is slipping, but only between gear changes. The fluid =

level looks good and the color of the fluid is still red and clean. =

When in gear it drives fine. Whenever the tranny goes to change =

gears it takes a long time (3-4 seconds) and revs high. This started =

quite suddenly on the way home Thursday. Before that there were never =

any problems. I haven't driven it since except to confirm the
symptons today (ride around the block).

If someone could point me in the right direction I can fix it. I'm =

up to just about anything short of a complete rebuild as long as I =

have my shop manual. It really stinks that this had to happen on =

the same day as the accident. I'm fairly certain that they're not =

related as the impact was less than 10mph and the tranny coolant =

lines have not broken.

Ken




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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 18:01:25 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Air Conditioner Compressor

I need to replace the Air Conditioner Compressor on my 74 F250. Is this
something I could do, or is it better to let the shop handle this one?



Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:05:45 -0500 (EST)
From: DBrents105 aol.com
Subject: Re: 351 "M" ???

The 351M is not a 351C. It is a 400 with a short stroke crankshaft. We all
have our favorites. I am partial to the 390 myself.

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:25:51 -0500 (EST)
From: DBrents105 aol.com
Subject: Re: Auto Trans

There are two versions of the C6. One is for big blocks and the other is for
small blocks. The small block version will fit behind a 302. You will
probably have to change the length of the drive shaft and the transmission
mount.. Also some have floor shift linckage (as in Mustangs) and other have
column shift linkage. The best source I have found for small block C6s is out
of Ford Vans with either small block V8s or IL6s (240, 300).

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:29:40 -0500 (EST)
From: DBrents105 aol.com
Subject: Re: 400 small block

No. But you can drop a 400 crank in a 351M and have a 400.

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:47:37 -0500 (EST)
From: DBrents105 aol.com
Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny

Sounds like worn clutches. How many miles on it? It could be something more
obscure like a bad front pump or just worn internal seals, but slipping
usually means the clutches are not locking due to wear or insufficient fluid
pressure. Sounds like it is going to have to come out and be torn down. Hope
I am wrong. Good Luck.

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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 21:17:47 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: RE: Slipping C6 tranny

At 07:15 PM 11/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Ken,
>
>Does it slip both times it shifts? I'm wondering if somehow the vacuum line
>to the modulator didn't get screwed up in the wreck. Maybe it popped off or
>got pinched or something. Or, maybe the hard linkage is off a bit now. Are
>all three gears still there?
>
>I'd check these things and also make sure it still has three gears. My
>Maverick revved high between shifts once, and it was because second gear
>was no longer there. Hopefully, your problem is more simple.
>
>DC Beatty
>

All three gears are there. I was pretty lazy in my diagnosis and
didn't bother to check the vacuum lines. I'll check them tomorrow.

Ken

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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 21:19:42 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Slipping C6 tranny

At 08:47 PM 11/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Sounds like worn clutches. How many miles on it? It could be something more
>obscure like a bad front pump or just worn internal seals, but slipping
>usually means the clutches are not locking due to wear or insufficient fluid
>pressure. Sounds like it is going to have to come out and be torn down. Hope
>I am wrong. Good Luck.


The tranny has less than 30,000 on it since a rebuild 2 years ago.
If it comes to it, I'm doing the rebuild this time instead of....


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