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fordtrucks61-79-digest Sunday, November 9 1997 Volume 01 : Number 344



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In this issue:

Frustrating [JonP27604 aol.com]
Re: Frustrating [Ken Payne ]
Re: My baby's wreck.... [SARHOG aol.com]
Tunnel Ram opinions, FT #341 [Alan Mittelstaedt ]
[Fwd: Replacing inner fenders/] [shoman p3.net]
Found 69 F250 parting out [shoman p3.net]
Re: Found 69 F250 parting out [cdkelly juno.com (Christopher D Kelly)]
Re: Found 69 F250 parting out [shoman p3.net]

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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:39:31 -0500 (EST)
From: JonP27604 aol.com
Subject: Frustrating

I emailed the listmaster at aol about holding mail and this was his response.
You aol member may be interested.


In a message dated 97-11-08 11:02:57 EST, you write:


Date: 97-11-08 11:02:57 EST
From: ListMaster
To: JonP27604

>I suscribe to an email list. I receive the list in digest form since AOL
>only lets me save 100 emails in my filing cabnet. I am having problems in
>that some digests are being held so I do not receive them in order.
>Sometime it takes days to receive the next sequential digest. It is very
>frustrating when I are trying to keep up with the content of the digest.
>Is AOL holding the digests (mail) and what should I do to keep this from
>happening? Also the digests I receive are large and AOL converts them to
>.txt files. Could this be the problem?

Thanks for your note, and for your patience. AOL's internet email
gateways are overloaded and some list mail gets temporarily sidetracked
when things get clogged. I'm afraid there's not much in the short term
that can be done until the bottlenecks are removed. As far as I can tell
everyone's experiencing the same problem: some list mail is
near-instant, other stuff takes forever.

Regards,
Dave Phillips AOL iDOT team
>>

Jon E. Purut
JonP27604 aol.com

1965 F100 SWB Daily Driver
1965 F100 Parts Truck Hoping To Revive As F350 Super Duty
1977 F150 Parts Truck
1970 Mustang Fastback
1993 Escort Wagon (wifes car)

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 15:12:03 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Frustrating

>
> Thanks for your note, and for your patience. AOL's internet email
> gateways are overloaded and some list mail gets temporarily sidetracked
> when things get clogged. I'm afraid there's not much in the short term
> that can be done until the bottlenecks are removed. As far as I can tell
> everyone's experiencing the same problem: some list mail is
> near-instant, other stuff takes forever.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Phillips AOL iDOT team
> >>

I have more admin headaches with AOL than any other source. The
short-term and permanent solution is to switch to one of the many
ISPs that offer better connects, personal service, faster systems
and more features for less money. AOL is the MacDonalds of the
Internet.

Having said that....

To everyone:
This list (61-79) goes far off topic quite a bit. Administrative
stuff needs to come to me as I'm sure most of the group doesn't
want to hear it. This group has over 100k of message traffic daily
(50-150 emails) and its membership has been steadily shrinking in
size for two months. The other two groups have grown... but they
don't have all the "fluff." People leave all the time sending me
emails which basically say "I thought we were here to talk about
trucks?"

Our charter is being updated to address these problems. Talking
about your brother-in-laws mini-van, your Tempo, how much your
ISP sucks, etc are **not** acceptable topics. Yes, there are a
lot of friends on the list who like to just chat and I believe
that's okay (I've made many friends through the lists) as long as
we keep it within the context of our purpose. If you want to talk
about other Ford vehicles, join Fordnatics. If you want to talk
about other makes, join any one of the numerous lists out there.

I tend to be very lax about the topicality as I don't want moderation.
However, I believe 95% of the members would agree with me about
off-topic posts. Many lists have a 3-strikes you're out rule, I
won't do that but I will update the charter about the concerns and
email it to everyone.

Climbing off soap box...
Ken, Admin (errr "List Mom"?)

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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:51:08 -0500 (EST)
From: SARHOG aol.com
Subject: Re: My baby's wreck....

In a message dated 97-11-08 15:22:10 EST, you write:


her, yanks the steering back to the right, whips all the way across
the road all the way on to the shoulder, gets it kinda sideways and
just WIPES out a freeway signpost. (-: >>

Every time I picture that scene in my head I can't stop laughing!! Wonder
what kind of story she will make up for her insurance company?

John Z.
67 F-100 460/C-6

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 03:15:47 -0800
From: Alan Mittelstaedt
Subject: Tunnel Ram opinions, FT #341

Bad fire, kemosabe, IMNSHO. A cousin of mine and me installed a 2x600
Weiand setup on his '70 Che*elle/400 SBC combo (he just won't listen
about Fords!) and he was immediately dissatisfied. He lost so much
bottom end, he could hardly drive the car with an auto trans in it. We
had to put in a looser converter (he already had a higher-than-stock
stall speed installed), and up the rear gears to 4.88 from 3.73 to make
it driveable, and then it got 5-8 mpg at best tune.

A couple of cool things about them, however: (1) LOOKS. You are now
certifiably high-falootin', only (possibly) outdone by forced induction!
(2) Top end power is almost impossible to beat with any other normally
aspirated intake. They are excellent for drag racing.

These are a major PITA (Pain in the A*s) on a street driven vehicle
unless: the vehicle weighs next to nothing, never sees cold weather, and
requires little low rpm power (see: T-bucket). Not to mention cutting
a big hole in your hood, and leaving your carbs exposed to the elements,
or installing a giant ProStock style hoodscoop that you can't see
around.

They are a pain to tune, and grumpy about atmospheric changes. Cold
weather is a no-no. Unless they have changed the kit, there are no
chokes on these carbs, as if they would do any good anyway. Anything on
top of the engine other than the carbs probably will need to be
relocated. Vacuum lines will either probably need to be
(re)moved/changed. If you are getting a one, go for the 2x450 setup to
save a little bottom end for street driving. A four speed manual tranny
would probably make life easier for streetability as far as driveline
changes. Matching the rest of your engine to the intake (cam, heads,
exhaust) can *somewhat* offset a lot of the problems that we
encountered. A lot of the problems we encountered, you might be able to
live with, because it is your *toy*.

Good luck, with either direction you decide to take.

> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 01:02:04 -0500
> From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt
> Subject: Tunnel Ram Combo ??
>
> NEED INPUT !!!
>
> What's the "Lists" thoughts on tunnel rams ??,
> gas mileage is not great with the 460 anyway. So I saw this combo in
> the summit catalog offering a Weiand tunnel ram w/450 cfm holleys for
> $560.00 and w/600's for $602.00. I'm not building this motor for a daily
> driver, but more for a toy. I'm not real sure about how these setups are
> to maintain, if there more a pain in the butt, or worth the price.
> I'm sure somebody's had experience with them. let me know the good and
> bad.

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 17:30:42 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: [Fwd: Replacing inner fenders/]

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Well before the first snow hits the ground here in PA I would like
to get my inner fender on the DS changed,What I would like to know
is what years will work on my 68..I know 67-72 but the 73's and on
seem to be very close in resemblance????I saw a 74 that looks like it
has a brand new one in the salvage yard...And I would like to get
these parts of these trucks before they become little square metal
boxes :(
Thanks
Joe 68 F100 4x4 302 np435


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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 20:39:30 -0800
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Found 69 F250 parting out

I found a 1969 F250 4x4 with a 390, 8 lug rears(4.10 gear)39" tires,
also has factory 69 slave type power steering(hard to find??Is he right?)
Truck's been sitting since 1994..He's asking $550 ,I'm basically
interested in the motor and trans..Anybody else interested in anything??
I'm on the east coast near Philadelphia...
Joe
68 F100
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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:56:29 -0500
From: cdkelly juno.com (Christopher D Kelly)
Subject: Re: Found 69 F250 parting out

maybe the rear ..depends on price? posi?
On Sat, 08 Nov 1997 20:39:30 -0800 shoman p3.net writes:
>I found a 1969 F250 4x4 with a 390, 8 lug rears(4.10 gear)39" tires,
>also has factory 69 slave type power steering(hard to find??Is he
>right?)
>Truck's been sitting since 1994..He's asking $550 ,I'm basically
>interested in the motor and trans..Anybody else interested in
>anything??
>I'm on the east coast near Philadelphia...
>Joe
>68 F100
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>Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"
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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 20:58:41 -0800
From: shoman ....

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