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fordtrucks61-79-digest Sunday, October 26 1997 Volume 01 : Number 315



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In this issue:

re: new problem ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: changing engines - hoist height, etc [JRFiero aol.com]
Re: 5 Speed and an FE ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #313 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
distributor update [SARHOG aol.com]
Re: submerged smog pump [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
Re: Smoggy the Weasel and Pipe Size ["Gary, 78 BBB"
Re: 5 Speed and an FE [mcat epix.net]
Re: 5 Speed and an FE [Don Grossman ]
Re: Rear Springs [Don Grossman ]
Re: Rear Springs ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Time change! [Don Grossman ]
Re: 5 Speed and an FE [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: 5 Speed and an FE [Don Grossman ]
RE: new problem [Sleddog ]
RE: Smoggy the Weasel and Pipe Size [Sleddog ]
RE: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #313 [Sleddog ]
RE: new problem [Sleddog ]
RE: distributor update [Sleddog ]
Re: new problem [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Time change! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: distributor update ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 5 Speed and an FE ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Whazzidoo light [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Whazzidoo light ["deconblu" ]
460 heads ["JAMES MERLO" ]
Re: 5 Speed and an FE ["JAMES MERLO" ]
Re: Whazzidoo light ["Robert Mitchem" ]

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:46:14 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: re: new problem

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:49:34 -0700
> Subject: re: new problem

> or so shaft which could easily be chucked into a drill motor. I too
> was concerned as to why the roll pin sheared so I tried turning the
> oil pump by hand, stiff as could be. I hooked up the drill motor and
> started to spin it ( drill lugged down. I had herd of an old timers

Has it occured to anyone that cold oil doesn't pump especially well?
And requires considerably more power to pump than warm oil? And the
mechanical advantage of the cam on the oil pump is considerable
whereas the drill is direct? The oil pump should be hard to turn
when it's pumping cold oil but what usually happens to shear pins is
as I said earlier, dibris gets between the rotors and lockes it up if
only momentarily since the engine doesn't even slow down something
has to give and the theory is that the gear (once the pin is sheared)
won't keep the dist lined up so the engine quits and the eingine is
safe because it can't run now (there's enough splash to get it safely
to a stop generally) but I've seen them run long enough, though very
badly, to completely destroy the engine because the pump shaft was
broken as well and the operator didn't know what was wrong so he kept
trying to coax it home.

If I suspected the pump, I would remove the pan and inspect it since
my engines cost more than I care to throw away :-)

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:14:08 -0500 (EST)
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: changing engines - hoist height, etc

Sorry, wasn't paying attention to the year of the truck or the details of
the thread, but it was about lifting an engine high enough ...
If I recall, on a '52 there are about 12 bolts holding the whole front end
on. Two big ones under the U-shaped radiator bracket, two on each running
board, and several holding the fender/fenderwell to the cab. After
disconnecting the wires and coolant lines, two people could walk the whole
nose - grill, radiator, the works - right off the front of the truck. Then
things get real easy.
I've also done this on later model cars, so maybe its an option on the
subject truck.

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:16:15 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:02:10 -0800
> From: Don Grossman
> Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

> I'll trade you one for a clark. Like I said I keep extras around
> just in case. ;-) -- Don Grossman duckdon pacific.net

I had a ford f-600 with a clark 250 in it but have no idea what
torque rating it had. With a long stroke 330 engine probably pretty
high but don't know?

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:05:02 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #313

> From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:05:19 -0400
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #313

> What is the balance tube for and why would I need it? I was under
> the assumption that with using such short pipes to start with that
> it would not be needed.

The cylinder banks fire unevenly so that they don't fire left, right,
left, right etc so the pulses are uneven coming out of the
collectors. The balance tube does exactly what it's name implies in
that it balances the pulse pressure between the pipes for better
scavenging. I'm not sure at what rpm range this has the most effect
but suspect it may affect the top more than the bottom, not sure.

I haven't installed mine yet and my engine chokes at about 4k rpm but
I think it's more to do with the carb jetting than the balance tube.
My engine needs lots of work so it could be any of several things
right now.

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:33:48 -0500 (EST)
From: SARHOG aol.com
Subject: distributor update

O.K. folks, here's an update on my problem....my old distributor goes in
and engages the cam gear and the oil pump shaft with no problem....my new
(rebuilt) distributor stops short by about an inch, does not engage the cam
gear or oil pump shaft. Both are the same part # ,Motorcraft 12127, and are
visually identical.
Upon further inspection of the old one, it appears that the part of the
housing that locates the distributor into the block has been milled/ filed
down some. I'm guessing here, but I think the hole in the block that the
distributor goes in, and the hole that the oil pump shaft is in are not quite
lined up. If that's the case, filing that part of the housing a little bit
would allow for a little bit of a tilt, enough for the distributor to go in
both holes.
Anyway, the gear on the old one is still attached, it just has about 30
degrees of play in it, maybe the roll pin is just partially sheared (is that
possible?). So...should I file down the new distributor housing so it fits,
or rebuild the old one? Is rebuilding one just a matter of taking the guts
out of the new one, and putting them in the old one? Are there any special
tools involved? Sorry for the length, thanks for the help.

John Z.
67 F-100 460/C-6

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:03:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: Re: submerged smog pump

- -> > What happens when a smog pump is below the waterline?

> Doesn't it get it's air from the air cleaner?

I don't know about the particular vehicle being discussed, but in
general early-style smog pumps had an air filter right on the pump
housing. Nobody ever serviced it, so later setups ran an additional
hose from the main air filter housing.


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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:53:38 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Smoggy the Weasel and Pipe Size

> From: "Brett McCoy"
> Subject: Re: Smoggy the Weasel and Pipe Size
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:11:40 -0500

> One more question. With a Crew Cab would you all exit in front or
> behind the rear passenger side wheel? The only problem with going
> in front that I can think of is it would be a little close to the
> rear passenger door? Wouldn't want anyone to get burned!! Would

All the new trucks have the pipe coming out in front of the rear
wheel for some reason. I figure they must have found some benefit to
it?? (besides cost that is?)

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 97 12:09:10 PST
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

Don
There is no tag on this tranny. I`ve looked at several clarks in
the truck yard and half of them did not have tags either. The only numbers
are cast into the case. The numbers 220248 are all I can find. The bigger
trans have a brass tag as well as casting no.s The smaller trans that
Ilooked at all had casting no,s that started with 220. Any ideas? I`m
wondering if this trans will take the strain from the diesel? I sure don`t
want to find a ZF 5-spd there way to expensive and I`ve been told they
don`t hold up as long as the clarks.
Garry
- --- On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:59:36 -0800 Don Grossman
wrote:

>mcat epix.net wrote:
>>
>> Don ,
>> Any casting no.s in your info list. I`ve got a 56 c600 with
a
>> 390 merc and a clark 5spd od in it. I want to install a6.9IHFord in it
and
>> need to know which model trans it is. By the way any one needing an
FE-FT
>> bellhousing with the rear mounting brkts? I have access to a few of
them
>> at a local truck yard.
>
>All the information should be on the Data plate that is on the side of
>the transmission. Other than that I am not sure where to look.
>--
>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>
>
>63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
>steering, power brakes
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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 10/26/97 Time: 12:09:10 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:23:50 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

sdelanty sonic.net wrote:

> Ack! Only 330 and 405 ft lbs on most? That will never do!
>
> Looks like the 550 series is the only useful one for FE.
> The ratios on the 1551 don't look to good for my tastes.
> Maybe a 1558 or 1557 with a fairly tall (3.0?) rear axle.?
> Not sure I like the 1557 ratios that well either. Hmmm, choices
> are quickly getting limited...
>
>
>
> Steve Delanty

I should have used "L" instead of "l". Sorry about the mix up there.
You can mix and match the gear sets if you like. ;)
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:28:56 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Rear Springs

deconblu wrote:
>
> Hi Gang!
> Well I drove out to the Valley and met Marv! A list member and very cool
> person. I am almost over saying "As if" and "Oh my God" it takes a while for
> the Valley to where off! :) He turned me on to a set of springs off his
> very cool '70 F250.
>
> Gary, he installed the whole 9" rear end from a Lincoln and is using air
> suspension. A nice set-up indeed! Hopefully he will give us the details on
> the truck. (Sorry Marv I think this is called "on the spot"). Marv is a
> knowledgeable and interesting Bro. I hope we get together again. If you need
> a hand with any of your projects just drop me a line and I'll be there, late
> but I'll be there! (I was suppose to be there at 10am, I think I showed up
> at a casual 12:30)
>
> I was looking at my trucks springs and the difference is like night and
> day. I can't wait to see how it handles. I'll do it Monday when my wife is
> at work and I can have the driveway. Not that it's a problem but she still
> remembers the one day header installation that turned into and engine
> rebuild. Maybe I didn't need to park in the middle but that's where I like
> to work. That way I can tell if I'm leaking something or it's a stain from
> where I worked on something! :)
> I'll update as it happens. Until then I'll just ramble and offer
> miss-information to peoples questions.
> Later!
>
> Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net

I picked up a load of pea gravel this weekend. The load was 3400lbs. I
was going to shoot for the 2 ton mark :( The truck actully sat on the
over load springs. Must be time for a redesign.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:29:25 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Rear Springs

> From: "deconblu"
> Subject: Rear Springs
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:21:08 -0700

> Gary, he installed the whole 9" rear end from a Lincoln and is
> using air
> suspension. A nice set-up indeed! Hopefully he will give us the
> details on the truck. (Sorry Marv I think this is called "on the

I'd love to go looking but can't get loose when they're open, darn
it! BTW, the lincolns have 28 spline axles AFAIK so for a truck, a
31 spline upgrade might be in order as well?

I'm off Tueaday, maybe I'll call around :-)

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:32:49 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Time change!

deconblu wrote:
>
> I like this time change and all, but why do they make you do it in the
> middle of the night! Why can't I do it before I go to bed or in the morning!
> The worst thing is going out to my F100 to change the clock in it. It's cold
> and the wind is blowing! This is a free country isn't it! This is a stupid
> law.
>
> Later Gang! :)
>
> Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net From Cuca So. Cal.

They should just set the time to the 1/2 hour and forget about it!

Finally got to upgrade my plug wires, cap and rotor to the newer style
for the Duraspark system. I did make a difference, no more misses.
(for Ford content)
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:36:36 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

>
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:01:31 -0500
>From: "George Shepherd"
>Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE
>
>Looks like what I want to do is klug together a 280v for 7.48 first and a
>280vo for .80 fifth.
>

But You end up with a tranny only rated at 330Ft/lbs.
Is that gonna be enough for You?
Even a relatively stock FE390 is good for 400+ft/lbs.
I think I'd break the 280 series...

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty

Measure it with a micrometer,
mark it with chalk,
cut it with an axe...

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:45:27 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

The torque rattings on the Clarks had to be conservitive. Some of
the trucks that they were used in were pushing arround 20-30K pounds if
not more. I'll try to find some torque specs for the t-98,18 and NP
435's.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:24:44 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: new problem

i have done similiar using kerosene with good results. a friend used it
also without pumping it through the oil pump, just dumping it in and
draining it till it ran clean. took an amazing amount of sludge out of the
oil pan.

sleddog

engine ( a few quarts of diesel in place of some of the oil, drive
around for a few miles and drain. ) so I drained the oil pan took off
the oil filter put a bucket under it. filled the crank case with 5
quarts of diesel and started the drill again. 5 minutes later the oil
pump was free. Drained everything, put everything back together and it
has been running great ever since. ( 3 years and oil pressure is right
where it should be )

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Another disclaimer:

I believe Diesel swells rubber and may even dissolve it so be careful!

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good luck

Dana






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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:38:45 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Smoggy the Weasel and Pipe Size

using the 3" pipe, i don't think there'll be any real change in back
pressure, especially not after the muffler. i don't think it would be much
louder, but -different-. do they have any regs as to the exit? here in
pa, it can exit anywhere behind the passenger area and must exit the side
or back of the vehicle, not just stop underneath somewhere (like mine
does!)

sleddog

One more question. With a Crew Cab would you all exit in front or behind
the rear passenger side wheel? The only problem with going in front that I
can think of is it would be a little close to the rear passenger door?
Wouldn't want anyone to get burned!! Would this set up be much louder than
going out behind the rear wheel? Seems to me that it should flow a little
better by avoiding the bends for the axle clearance. Also seems that just
after the axle is where they rust out first. May make the system last a
little longer. What do ya think?!?

- -B






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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:40:02 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #313

in short, it increase collector volume for better low rpm scavenging

sleddog

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Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V1 #313

What is the balance tube for and why would I need it? I was under the
assumption that with using such short pipes to start with that it would
not be needed.

Duke's
Fine 69





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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:53:34 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: new problem

after the Oktoberfest at OK 4WD in NJ, the employees take there trucks out
behind the store and do hot laps in the fields. my cousin works there and
i rode with him two years ago. he had a 72 ford with a FE. after about
1/2 hour of feeling like i was on the edge of death and about 4 beers
later, the oil pressure droppped to nothing.

although i offered to tow him home, he decided to drive it. well it is a
30 mile drive and he made it home. later, dropping the pan showed us a oil
shaft that was looking more like a pretzel than a shaft.
a new bottom end bearing set was installed with a new oil pump shaft and
this motor went on for many miles. the bearings didn't look as bad as i
thought they would, and may even have worked without replacement.

moral of the story? don't know. it's a pointless story but i like to tell
it anyway even if just to show what a great engine the FE was, and still
is!

sleddog


won't keep the dist lined up so the engine quits and the eingine is
safe because it can't run now (there's enough splash to get it safely
to a stop generally) but I've seen them run long enough, though very
badly, to completely destroy the engine because the pump shaft was
broken as well and the operator didn't know what was wrong so he kept
trying to coax it home.

If I suspected the pump, I would remove the pan and inspect it since
my engines cost more than I care to throw away :-)

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --






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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:55:39 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: distributor update

if only the pin is sheared, then a new pin and maybe a new gear should do it.

sleddog

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From: SARHOG aol.com[SMTP:SARHOG aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 1997 5:33 AM
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Subject: distributor update

O.K. folks, here's an update on my problem....my old distributor goes in
and engages the cam gear and the oil pump shaft with no problem....my new
(rebuilt) distributor stops short by about an inch, does not engage the cam
gear or oil pump shaft. Both are the same part # ,Motorcraft 12127, and are
visually identical.
Upon further inspection of the old one, it appears that the part of the
housing that locates the distributor into the block has been milled/ filed
down some. I'm guessing here, but I think the hole in the block that the
distributor goes in, and the hole that the oil pump shaft is in are not quite
lined up. If that's the case, filing that part of the housing a little bit
would allow for a little bit of a tilt, enough for the distributor to go in
both holes.
Anyway, the gear on the old one is still attached, it just has about 30
degrees of play in it, maybe the roll pin is just partially sheared (is that
possible?). So...should I file down the new distributor housing so it fits,
or rebuild the old one? Is rebuilding one just a matter of taking the guts
out of the new one, and putting them in the old one? Are there any special
tools involved? Sorry for the length, thanks for the help.

John Z.
67 F-100 460/C-6





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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:12:43 -0800
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: new problem

Sleddog wrote:
>................ the oil pressure droppped to nothing.
>
> although i offered to tow him home, he decided to drive it. well it >is a
> 30 mile drive and he made it home. later, dropping the pan showed us >a oil
> shaft that was looking more like a pretzel than a shaft.
> a new bottom end bearing set was installed with a new oil pump shaft >and
> this motor went on for many miles. the bearings didn't look as bad as >i
> thought they would, and may even have worked without replacement.
>
> moral of the story? don't know. it's a pointless story but i like to >tell
> it anyway even if just to show what a great engine the FE was, and >still
> is!
>
> sleddog
>

Now if he was using prolong.....who knows?

Dana

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 14:20:35 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Time change!

> From: "deconblu"
> Subject: Time change!
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:08:04 -0700

> I like this time change and all, but why do they make you do it
> in the
> middle of the night! Why can't I do it before I go to bed or in the
> morning! The worst thing is going out to my F100 to change the clock

In my area the police come around at 5 min before 2am and knock on
your door to check your clocks and if they have been changed early
you go to jail :-)

Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:03:28 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: distributor update

> From: SARHOG aol.com
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:33:48 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: distributor update

> inch, does not engage the cam gear or oil pump shaft. Both are the
> same part # ,Motorcraft 12127, and are visually identical.
> Upon further inspection of the old one, it appears that the
> part of the
> housing that locates the distributor into the block has been milled/

12127 is the base assy number which indicates it's a distributor.
All Ford distributores have this number stanped or cast into them.
Since this is a 460 the pilot hole for the shaft and the base hole
in the top are both in the block casting and have to be lined up as
I'm reasonably sure this operation is done with one cutting tool in
a fixture to ensure alignment. If they are not, no amount of filing
or bending the housing will make it work properly since it will fail
soon after you run it due to the forces on the bushing etc.. There
must be some build up in the hole interfering with the installation.
Look carefully at the top hole for caked on or burnt on grease,
carbon, aluminum etc. and the bottom hole for burrs, signs of being
hammered which may have caused the hole to be out of round etc.. If
it needs scraping I suggest you take the pan off and clean every
thing up and while you're at it take a peek inside the pump too and
replace the pickup tube and screen.

Something just occured to me, the cam may be broken and pushed out
so that it interferes with the installation. This is a long shot but
I just recently heard about just such a situation. If it broke
behind the gear the front part would turn but not the rear portion
and this would allow only one bearing to control the front portion.
Naaaaaaah, too far out! :-(


Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:08:50 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:45:27 -0800
> From: Don Grossman
> Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

> The torque rattings on the Clarks had to be conservitive. Some of
> the trucks that they were used in were pushing arround 20-30K pounds
> if not more. I'll try to find some torque specs for the t-98,18 and
> NP 435's. -- Don Grossman duckdon pacific.net

These are input shaft torque ratings not output. The ZF-547 is rated
at 470 ft/lbs input but uses ATF for lube which isn't truck material
IMHO :-)


Broncos really are supposed
to have brakes aren't they?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:43:38 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Whazzidoo light

Hey Y'all,
My '71 F100 has this red light on the dash, at the extreme lower left
corner, just above the parking brake.
It's about 3/4" diameter with a chrome trim ring around it and matches
the general F100 "decor", but I always thought that some previous owner
had added it for some unknown purpose.

Soooo, today I was gonna take it out so I could use the hole for
something else. But when I went to disconnect it I realized that it
is stock stuff. The light has a purple wire and a red w/yellow wire
that go right into the stock wiring harness. It's a very factory
looking job, I'm sure now that it was a stock item.

So does anyone know what this light is 'sposed to indicate?
I'm afraid now that it'll come on some day and I won't know what to do...

Thanks,

Steve Delanty

Measure it with a micrometer,
mark it with chalk,
cut it with an axe...

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 13:29:03 -0800
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light

> So does anyone know what this light is 'sposed to indicate?
> I'm afraid now that it'll come on some day and I won't know what to do...

Huuummmm! Looks here like it's a heat indicator. If the bulb goes out your
heater won't get warm! :o You built the Delanty Death Cab for nothing. You
needed a new bulb! :)

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:19:45 -0600
From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: 460 heads

What did Ford do to the 460 head in 1988 and later that makes it
incompatible with Edelbrock intake manifolds? Does this apply to the
Weiand Stealth also?


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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:21:07 -0600
From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE

When did that ZF-547 debut?

- ----------
> From: Gary, 78 BBB
> To: fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net
> Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE
> Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 9:08 AM
>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:45:27 -0800
> > From: Don Grossman
> > Subject: Re: 5 Speed and an FE
>
> > The torque rattings on the Clarks had to be conservitive. Some of
> > the trucks that they were used in were pushing arround 20-30K pounds
> > if not more. I'll try to find some torque specs for the t-98,18 and
> > NP 435's. -- Don Grossman duckdon pacific.net
>
> These are input shaft torque ratings not output. The ZF-547 is rated
> at 470 ft/lbs input but uses ATF for lube which isn't truck material
> IMHO :-)
>
>
> Broncos really are supposed
> to have brakes aren't they?
>
> -- Gary --
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 17:43:04 -0600
From: "Robert Mitchem"
Subject: Re: Whazzidoo light

Maybe it the light that tells you the parking brake is set. Many Galaxies
and T-Birds of the 60', and early 70's had this feature. Look for a switch
near the emergency brake assy with those color wires.

- ----------
> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Whazzidoo light
> Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 2:43 PM
>
> Hey Y'all,
> My '71 F100 has this red light on the dash, at the extreme lower left
> corner, just above the parking brake.....

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