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fordtrucks61-79-digest Thursday, October 23 1997 Volume 01 : Number 308



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In this issue:

C6/C4/FMX [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
re:heater ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: C6/C4/FMX ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: re:heater ["George Shepherd" ]
Faxon and service manuals ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
T19 VS NP435 [james oxley ]
Factory Castiron Headers [am14 chrysler.com]
Bolt pattern('s) [am14 chrysler.com]
Re: 351C bellhousing pattern [Don Grossman ]
Bronco psare tire [Litemeup aol.com]
ADMIN: Sticker information [Ken Payne ]
Re: ADMIN: Sticker information [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: ADMIN: Sticker information [Keith Srb ]
351C bellhousing pattern ["Dave Resch"]
Re: Shopping List ??/Timing gears ["Dave Resch"]
Re: 351C bellhousing pattern [William Sabers ]
Re: 351C bellhousing pattern ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 64 f100 power steering? [Ken Payne]
Factory Cruise Control [Tom Hogan ]
Re: 64 f100 power steering? [Don Grossman ]
Found a great source [Ken Payne ]
Re: Found a great source ["deconblu" ]
Re: Autolite 4100 ["Robert Mitchem" ]
Re: Bolt pattern('s) [DBrents105 aol.com]
Re: 351C bellhousing pattern [DBrents105 aol.com]
new problem [SARHOG aol.com]
Smoggy the Weasel and Pipe Size ["Brett McCoy"
Re: mail structure (Answer) [HYDROSMITH aol.com]
Re: 78 F-150 Installing Power Windows and Locks [HYDROSMITH aol.com]
Re: Factory Cruise Control [Randy Collins ]
Re: Bolt pattern('s) [HYDROSMITH aol.com]

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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:02:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: C6/C4/FMX

- -> I've always been under the impression that the FMX had the
- -> 'BELLHOUSING' seperate and the C6 and C4 both had integral
- -> bellhousings

C4 - aluminum bellhousing, aluminum case
FMX - aluminum bellhousing, iron case
C6 - integral aluminum bellhousing and case


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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:28:41 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: re:heater

> From: "art l"
> Subject: re:heater
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:23:41 -0700

> George,Gary: I am not sure what drain would be plugged, I'm
> looking in
> my 78 service manual and it doesn't show a drain. Do you have any
> suggests how I would fix the problem? Thanks for your help. Art
> lutz 78 F-250 XLT Ranger

I don't have mine in front of me either but there should be a tube
running from the heat exchanger area, inside the plenum, down to drip
on the ground to collect the condensation from the coils. If this
gets plugged it will fill up and blow water all over or run out the
sides on to the carpet. I don't fool much with air but that's what
happened to the cougar.

I think I just blew some compressed air up the tube to fix mine as I
recall :-)

Michigan roads, Broncos and
Kidney belts, What a team!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:32:23 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: C6/C4/FMX

> From: am14 chrysler.com
> Subject: C6/C4/FMX
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:45:28 -0400

> I've always been under the impression that the FMX had the
> 'BELLHOUSING' seperate and the C6 and C4 both had integral
> bellhousings. Also was under the impression that the only

C-4 has separate for sure. It also has two bands with visible
adjusters, the C-6 has one band and is more massive than the C-4 as
well.

Michigan roads, Broncos and
Kidney belts, What a team!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:38:16 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: re:heater

78's had in dash a/c. the a/c condenses water out of the air as it cools
it. There is a drain in the bottom of the a/c plenum, if it clogs the water
builds up and drains inside the cab. It is clear water. Radiator water
should show and smell traces of antifreeze(sweet tasting, but
poisonous-don't taste.

- ----------
> From: art l
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: re:heater
> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 3:23 PM
>
> George,Gary: I am not sure what drain would be plugged, I'm looking
in
> my 78 service manual and it doesn't show a drain. Do you have any
suggests
> how I would fix the problem? Thanks for your help.
> Art lutz
> 78 F-250 XLT Ranger
>
> > From: "George Shepherd"
> > Subject: Re: heater
> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:05:42 -0500
> > Sounds like you have water getting in the plenum, but no heater core
> > leak. If you have a/c and the drain is plugged water can build up.
> > If no a/c the plenum is getting water from the outside.
> That's really true. My 86 cougar got plugged up and water ran inside
> all over the place and steamed up the windows as well as I recall.
> Michigan roads, Broncos and
> Kidney belts, What a team!
> - -- Gary --
>
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:16:53 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Faxon and service manuals

I brought in the card they sent with my 78 service manuals so presume
this number will get you to the right place, I wish you success:

Faxon Auto Literature 1-800-458-2734


Michigan roads, Broncos and
Kidney belts, What a team!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:59:30 -0700
From: james oxley
Subject: T19 VS NP435

Howdy

I picked up a extra tranny and transfer case a couple weeks ago for my
1978 Bronco . It turns out I got a T-19 and a NP205 vs the NP435 tranny.
How do they compare. The T-19 came out of a 79 Bronco and it does have
the granny first gear. It has much less milage than mine. I was planning
on doing a total rebuild on the NP435, but should I just use the T-19. Is
the T-19 as beefy as the NP435. They look about the same size physically.

OX

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:17:30 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Factory Castiron Headers

I bought a '61 Starliner with a 390FE/Solids, Three Duece setup, 3speed
wOD on the column, new in August of '61. It had the same Castiron
headers as you are speaking of. I wish I'd kept that car. Would run
with the best of them and got decent economy. Put nearly 200000 miles
on it before I had to do anything to it. Was in the military when I
bought it. Drove it from North Alabama to Oregon 2 weeks after I bought
it. Went across Kansas, Colorado, Utah and Nevada at breakneck speeds
and still got better than 15MPG. Also bought a '69 Cobrajet Mustang
with 428FE. It also had castiron headers, but were different from the
earlier version. I think it breathed as well though. Was satisfied
with both. >If you are interested I have a set of factory cast iron
headers for an FE
> Ford. They were original equipment on 406 and 427 Galaxies of 60-64.


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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:19:49 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Bolt pattern('s)

The 351C uses the Late 289/302/351W bolt pattrern. The 351M uses the
351M/400 (335 series) and the 429/460 (385 series) bolt pattern.
> Uh oh, now I've got one vote for 351C having the same bellhousing
pattern as windsor stuff, and one vote for not... Any tie breakers
out there?

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:22:28 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 351C bellhousing pattern

My Vote,

The 351C has the same bellhousing bolt pattern as the small block
Windsors and the 240-300 six.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:26:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Litemeup aol.com
Subject: Bronco psare tire

Question for everyone out there with more experience than I:

I recently noticed, today in fact. That where the spare tire hanger o nthe
rear tailgate on my bronco attaches. That the panel is cracking from the
weight of the tire i assume. It doesn't seem to be causing severe damage to
the integrity of the hanger or panel however i fear that in the not too
distant future things may go wrong very quickly now that damage has occurred.

I was thinking of changing the tire to be mounted in side.

My questions besides how did some of you handle this are:
1: How can I repair the damage? Welding? Wish I knew how to myself but can
look into getting this done. It is right alongside the tail light.
2: Will an inside holder mount inside my bronco or will there be a large
part of work involved. Any ideas how to locate htis part? Hate to think
what Ford wants for it.

Thanks everyone.

John
litemeup aol.com

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:38:54 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Sticker information

First I need to offer everyone who has been waiting on stickers
my sincerest apologies. I have **not** sent any out yet. The
job search got more hectic than I could have imagined. I flew
out of town twice for interviews, plus I've been doing 2-3
interviews daily (not including spending 90% of my evenings on
the phone with recruiters).

I have received a total of 4 offers, 3 of them yesterday. I have
accepted an offer and will begin working on Monday. Today I fix
the brakes on the truck and my wife's Escort, they're long overdue
(Escort is scraping metal!) and I can't put it off any more.
Tomorrow I mow the lawn (4 weeks overdue) and catch up on all the
things I've promised my wife I would do.

On Saturday I will begin sending out stickers (or I'm going to prepare
a list so my wife can do it on Monday). Please do not send any more
orders for them until I give the group the "okay" as I've really gotten
behind with many things and it will take time to catch up. It will
take several days to send them all out, I've got a ton of orders for
them.

I feel really terrible about this whole sticker thing, it hasn't
gone the way I expected it to.

Sincerely,
(hat in hands)
Ken
Admin

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:22:40 -0700
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Sticker information

>I feel really terrible about this whole sticker thing, it hasn't
>gone the way I expected it to.
>
>Sincerely,
>(hat in hands)
>Ken
>Admin

Ken, no need to apologize. I didn't notice from your message when it was
you were going to sit down, take a breath, and enjoy a tall cool one. Make
sure you don't forget about your obligations to yourself!

keep up the good work and all, we all really appreciate it!


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:37:58 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Sticker information

I totally agree!



At 10:22 AM 10/23/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>I feel really terrible about this whole sticker thing, it hasn't
>>gone the way I expected it to.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>(hat in hands)
>>Ken
>>Admin
>
>Ken, no need to apologize. I didn't notice from your message when it was
>you were going to sit down, take a breath, and enjoy a tall cool one. Make
>sure you don't forget about your obligations to yourself!
>
>keep up the good work and all, we all really appreciate it!
>
>
>marko in vancouver
>marko helix.net
>71 f250 4x4
>
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Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:57:14 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: 351C bellhousing pattern

>From: sdelanty sonic.net
>Subject: 351C bellhousing pattern
>
>snip
>
> Uh oh, now I've got one vote for 351C having the same bellhousing
> pattern as windsor stuff, and one vote for not... Any tie breakers
> out there?
Yo Steve:
I am not very familiar w/ the 289/302/351W small blocks, but I trust Gary
and the others who say the 351C shares their bell housing bolt pattern.
What I meant was that the 351C does not share the bell housing bolt pattern
with the other engines in the 335 series (to which it belongs) and the 385
series.

Dave R (M-block devotee)

> Measure it with a micrometer,
> mark it with chalk,
> cut it with an axe...
BTW: I thought it was -- measure it w/ a laser, mark it w/ spray paint, cut
it w/ a backhoe :-)

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:00:59 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: Shopping List ??/Timing gears

>From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
>Subject: Re: Shopping List ??/Timing gears
>
>snip-o-rama
>
>most of them actually stated "machined for more noise" ???
>Must be racers want to please the crowd :-)
Yo Gary:
I think its for the teenage boys who want to think they are impressing each
other at the stop light. Real racers wouldn't even hear the gear drives
over the 130db short pipe header noise!

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:29:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Sabers
Subject: Re: 351C bellhousing pattern

The 351 Cleveland, 351 Boss, 351 Windsor, 302, etc... all share the same
bellhousing...

Wsabers

I should know I have owned and pulled all of the above. The 351M has the
same heads as the Cleveland, and that is where the confusion sets in,
although the M is a big block.


>
> >> the 351C has it's own pattern except for *a few* 400's? How
> >> inconveniant... Interesting, I'll update my memory banks. (-:
> >
> >351C uses the modern small block pattern, same as 302 etc..
> >
> >Michigan roads, Broncos and
> >Kidney belts, What a team!
>
> Uh oh, now I've got one vote for 351C having the same bellhousing
> pattern as windsor stuff, and one vote for not... Any tie breakers
> out there?
>
> Happy motoring,
>
> Steve Delanty
>
> Measure it with a micrometer,
> mark it with chalk,
> cut it with an axe...
>
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>

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:35:51 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 351C bellhousing pattern

> From: "Dave Resch"
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:57:14 -0600
> Subject: 351C bellhousing pattern

> I am not very familiar w/ the 289/302/351W small blocks, but I trust
> Gary and the others who say the 351C shares their bell housing bolt
> pattern. What I meant was that the 351C does not share the bell
> housing bolt pattern with the other engines in the 335 series (to
> which it belongs) and the 385 series.

I bolted a 351C to a C-6 that was bolted to a 351W with no
modifications. I even used the same flex plate which I found out
later wasn't cool but it worked as long as it was in there :-) Can't
remember about the engine mounts for sure, don't think I had to
change them?

I think they upgraded the 335 series to big block to match the
429/460 flange to reduce the number of transmission configurations
they needed in the larger cars and trucks. the 351/400 proposed
sizes would have been too much for reliable service from the smaller
transmissions anyway. The block was changed in a few other places as
well but don't know all the details.

Michigan roads, Broncos and
Kidney belts, What a team!

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:18:08 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: 64 f100 power steering?

At 10:23 PM 10/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Can anybody tell me where I can purchase complete power steering setup
>for my 64 F-100 or if any unit off later model will work .I have seen
>64s in magazines that have the original straight axle and power steering
>also are there any disc brakes that will adapt to this axle?

Have you tried finding one from a junkyard? Also, I hate mentioning
this but I've heard of many people adapting Chevy truck pumps.

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:07:59 -0700
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: Factory Cruise Control

Has anyone ever tried to pull a complete factory cuise unit from a 73-79
truck (salvage yard) and install it on another 73-79 truck (running)? I
know there are aftermarket units out there but I don't really like the
'kloodged' (pronounced 'tacky add-on piece of ****') appearance of the
control units. If I could get one of the factory units to install I
know I would feel better about the installation. Something about the
controls on the horn button that appeals to me.

The other thing I'm planning on is to swap in the interval wiper unit.
I know that one is a no-brainer. The problem is that the one salvage
yard I asked at wanted $50 for the control unit!! I can get one new at
Kragens for that. The intervals will really be nice here in the bay
area 'cause we get a lot of mist here. Never saw a group of people get
so worked up over ONE INCH of rain fall before!!!! 'Course when we get
one inch of rain here the 'silt mountains' around 'Fisco start to slide
into the ocean!!

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:50:13 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: 64 f100 power steering?

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> At 10:23 PM 10/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >Can anybody tell me where I can purchase complete power steering setup
> >for my 64 F-100 or if any unit off later model will work .I have seen
> >64s in magazines that have the original straight axle and power steering
> >also are there any disc brakes that will adapt to this axle?
>
> Have you tried finding one from a junkyard? Also, I hate mentioning
> this but I've heard of many people adapting Chevy truck pumps.

Or how about a Ch*vy box and a Ford pump?

Power steering was an option that year but I am sure that origional
parts would be hard to find. You might look into using a box from a
67-79 two wheeler.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:54:15 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Found a great source

Just found a great source for wiring diagrams. A friend dropped
off a 1967 F100-F750 Wiring Diagram Manual, Ford reproduction.
Its made by Jim Osborn Reproductions here in Atlanta (770)
962-7556. The manual is fantastic and they produce year specific
manuals. Its got full schematics plus layouts showing wire routing.
I really like this manual. Also gave me a 1967-1968 F100-F250
Illustrated Facts and Feature manual. This company does virtually
every manual, decal, tag and other finishing touches for all makes
and models (even the C-words).

I usually don't make personal recommendations since I admin the
lists but in this case I'm impressed enough that I felt I had to!
Prices are pretty good too.

Anyways, take it for what its worth, but I'm glad I found out about
them.

Ken

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:09:31 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Found a great source

Found them on the Web!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.osborn-reproduction.com/


Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
================================================
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
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- -----Original Message-----
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 5:55 PM
Subject: Found a great source



>Just found a great source for wiring diagrams. A friend dropped
>off a 1967 F100-F750 Wiring Diagram Manual, Ford reproduction.
>Its made by Jim Osborn Reproductions here in Atlanta (770)
>962-7556. The manual is fantastic and they produce year specific
>manuals. Its got full schematics plus layouts showing wire routing.
>I really like this manual. Also gave me a 1967-1968 F100-F250
>Illustrated Facts and Feature manual. This company does virtually
>every manual, decal, tag and other finishing touches for all makes
>and models (even the C-words).
>
>I usually don't make personal recommendations since I admin the
>lists but in this case I'm impressed enough that I felt I had to!
>Prices are pretty good too.
>
>Anyways, take it for what its worth, but I'm glad I found out about
>them.
>
>Ken
>
>
>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 thru 1979 --------------+
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:48:40 -0500
From: "Robert Mitchem"
Subject: Re: Autolite 4100

I have 3 laying in my garage. They are off a 390 65 Galaxie and 428
T-Bird. These carbs are the old shoebox style. They all need rebuilding
if you are interested let me know.

- ----------
> From: John MacNamara
> To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
> Subject: Autolite 4100
> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 7:42 PM
>
> Hello everyone: While we're still discussing "spread bore" carbs and
> intakes, does anyone have an Autolite 4100 carb core out there he'll
> sell cheap. I believe these came on midyear Galaxies and the like.
>
> A previous thread had a gentleman picking one up for $50 and rebuilding
> for $20.
>
> These are supposed to be pretty good carbs but I don't know much about
> them.
>
> Thanks
> John MacNamara
>
> 78 F250 4X4 Supercab
> 67 GT500
> 66 Corvette
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:48:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: DBrents105 aol.com
Subject: Re: Bolt pattern('s)

351C and 351W have the same bolt pattern.

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:52:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: DBrents105 aol.com
Subject: Re: 351C bellhousing pattern

I agree. I have rebuilt transmissions for 289, 302, 351W, 351C, & 240. All of
these share the same bolt pattern. Also the big 240 (300).

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 23:16:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: SARHOG aol.com
Subject: new problem

> Isn't this too much advance too soon? The truck runs awful til I get
about 4000 >rpm, then it runs pretty good. Thanks for any help.

To clarify "runs awful", alot of pinging and no power. While troubleshooting
this, I noticed that I am able to turn my distributor rotor approx. 30
degrees without the engine turning. I put the # 1 piston TDC on the
compression stroke and pulled the distributor. The pin that holds the gear
was sheared, and the gear was turning without the shaft. I bought a rebuilt
Duraspark 2 distributor (the same as the one that came off) and now I can't
get the distributor seated all the way. It sticks up about 1 inch. It seems
as though the bottom of the distributor shaft won't engage the oil pump
shaft. Any ideas? I'm looking forward to getting it back together. With
the new carb and distributor, it should (it better) run good!

John Z.
67 F-100 460/C-6

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 23:04:28 -0500
From: "Brett McCoy"
Subject: Smoggy the Weasel and Pipe Size

Well, had to do the annual smog check today. I thought I may have problems
before I got there so I was expecting the worst. I just got my '79 F250
Crew Cab about six months ago and the guy I bought it from was real evasive
about the smog check. I thought how bad could it be? It has current tabs
on it. I have been doing some tuning work and have many of the ignition
parts replace that were in terrible shape when I bought the truck. I
pulled in and the first thing the test tells me is that I need to go in
side to the office. Not a good sign. Seems it failed last year and was
working on some kind of extension. Got the paper work and pulled back
around to have the test. Technician looks for gas caps. That checks OK.
Looks at the sniff test results. That PASSED. I'm thinking this is great!
I passed! Then the little weasel gets out his stupid little mirror and
said. You don't have a cat. You failed. Go back to the office. Crap!!
Now I have about thirty days to get my rusty old dual exhaust converted
back over to a single cat system in order to met the spec book
requirements. The hard part to swallow is that even with not having
checked the timing yet and a carb that NEEDS a rebuild I past the sniffer
test. So What Do I Need This Stupid Cat For Anyway!!
The guy in the office said, because it is supposed to have one. Well
la-de-da! Guess I have to start that exhaust project about three months
sooner than I wanted. Won't the wife be just THRILLED.

By the way, anybody know what the stock pipe size on a '79 F250 Crew Cab
with a 460 is??

I was thinking about running 2" to the converter and then 2.5" the rest of
the way. Think that will breath well enough with just one muffler and tail
pipe for the 460?
Later.
- -B

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:24:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: HYDROSMITH aol.com
Subject: Re: mail structure (Answer)

In a message dated 97-10-22 04:55:40 EDT, you write:


with mouse pointer at the beginning, hold left mouse button down and drag
pointer to the end of the text and then let go of left button. Now click
the "Reply" button and the text will be placed in the "Compose Mail" window.
>>

Thanks! Simple enough as you can see.

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:30:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: HYDROSMITH aol.com
Subject: Re: 78 F-150 Installing Power Windows and Locks

In a message dated 97-10-22 08:34:22 EDT, you write:


I
I get the insides of a door from another year of a pickup and install them
in mine without much trouble or is there an after market kit that works
well? >>

Get a JC Whitney's and they will have what you need. The power lock
solenoids have been simple to install in my experience.

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:26:34 -0700
From: Randy Collins
Subject: Re: Factory Cruise Control

Ford Folks:

I haven't posted for a long time. My job has been incredibly demanding
lately, I hope that things will settle down to a normal pace soon.

I haven't installed the factory cruise control on my project truck yet but
I will. I have a running 1977 1/2 ton truck that I will rob the controls
from. They will go into my 1975 body and chassis. I already purchased an
early 80's steering wheel pad to go on the small wheel tilt column setup
that I am using. I understand that somewhere in the early 80's they
changed the cruise setup to incorporate a resume feature. I am not certain
what it takes to incorporate this but I believe that the control unit is
the only difference. If you want me to report on any of the hardware I
have around here I would be happy to run out and look things over for you.

BTW, the other day I saw a 1979 Bronco that had a late model steering
column in it. The column incorporated the key switch that locks the
steering and had the cruise stuff in the steering wheel pad. It looked
right at home in the older bronco.

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck"
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
460 C-6

Has anyone ever tried to pull a complete factory cuise unit from a 73-79
truck (salvage yard) and install it on another 73-79 truck (running)? I
know there are aftermarket units out there but I don't really like the
'kloodged' (pronounced 'tacky add-on piece of ****') appearance of the
control units. If I could get one of the factory units to install I know I
would feel better about the installation. Something about the controls on
the horn button that appeals to me.
The other thing I'm planning on is to swap in the interval wiper unit. I
know that one is a no-brainer. The problem is that the one salvage yard I
asked at wanted $50 for the control unit!! I can get one new at Kragens....


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