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fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, October 10 1997 Volume 01 : Number 276



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In this issue:

Re: Ford Red Book ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 360 mileage ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
ADMIN: Sept archives on web site [Ken Payne ]
Label Information [RICHARD_GARBER HP-USA-om21.om.hp.com]
79 F250 4x4 ["Bill Beyer" ]
Re: 79 F250 4x4 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 79 F250 4x4 [John MacNamara ]
Re: Ford Red Book ["George Shepherd" ]
How do I get off this [Kevin Matheson u ]
Shop Manuals [Alan Mittelstaedt ]
INFO on 64 truck [Chris Kelly ]
Re: IS THIS A GREAT LIST OR WHAT? ["deconblu" ]
[Fwd: Exempt From Smog Check II] [danadeb pacbell.net]
gasoline [Sleddog ]
Re: ADMIN: Sticker design ready, now goes to press. [Ken Payne
Re: Label Information [Ken Payne ]
Re: gasoline [Ken Payne ]
Yahoo for SB-42! [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Yahoo for SB-42! ["deconblu" ]

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:42:11 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Ford Red Book

> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 11:03:56 -0500
> From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt
> Subject: Ford Red Book

> and handling. But I then found out that there store is only about 15
> miles from me ! So I would be willing to pick up a copy for anyone
> who'd like one and send it out from the post office here for I'm
> sure alot less than the $4.95 they want.

That's a lot of work Brian and the postal costs may be higher than
you think along with your time and shipping materials :-) $10 for a
book this usefull isn't much of a deterent to me for sure :-) Course
I paid $120 for my shop manuals for my 78 Bronco too cuz I though it
was pretty important. Course that also covers my 78 PU as well :-)



My back hurts, my teeth may
fall out at any moment, Do they make
4WD Lincolins? With air suspension?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:27:05 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 360 mileage

> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 14:09:20 -0700
> From: Stuart Varner
> Subject: 360 mileage

> Before rebuilding my carb I got between 6 and 8 mpg (city).......now
> after the rebuild on a long trip I get as good as good as 12.6 -

What carb do you have?

My back hurts, my teeth may
fall out at any moment, Do they make
4WD Lincolins? With air suspension?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 09:05:46 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Sept archives on web site

September archives are on the web site. I changed the
archive page over to a table based page so the archives
(and the list splits) make more sense to newcomers.

http://www.ford-trucks.com

Archives are in ZIP format, using maximum compression (Mac
users make sure your "Zipper" supports maximum compression)
and long filenames (sorry 16-bit Window users). Our archives
go back to the very beginning of the list - only the first
two weeks of the list aren't archived (which is a shame).

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 97 15:08:55 -0400
From: RICHARD_GARBER HP-USA-om21.om.hp.com
Subject: Label Information

Item Subject: Text Item
Hello All,

I posted this to the 60 and older list and since it pertains to all
here goes. I've been looking for the cost clipper 6 valve cover label
for a while.None of the suppliers I've found carry it. Happy to say
I've found a supplier got my label and it's perfect. This place makes
nothing but labels(who'd think you could make a living that way).
Their catalog is 160 pages and covers all makes. Alot of ford stuff.
Great way to detail an engine. For all interested:

Jim Osborn Reproductions
101 Ridgecrest Dr.
Lawrenceville GA 30245

770-962-7556
770-962-5881 Fax

Rich


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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:08:59 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: 79 F250 4x4

I have the chance to purchase a one owner 79 F250 4x4. It has 123k on the
original 400 with a C6 and NP205. It was mostly used for towing a 17 ft
fishing boat around in the Pacific NW, very little actual four wheeling. It
has a little surface rust on the hood where the paint has gone south but no
other visible rust. I checked the rear fenderwells and cab corners and it
seems to be pretty solid. I'm looking for a reliable daily driver which
could handle some camping up in the mountains. It also has a shell and
carpeted bed kit in it. The guy wants $3200 for it. Is this a good deal?
The only bad thing I've heard about this series is that the ram (?) type
power steering is a little dicey. Any comments would be greatly
appreciated.

Bill Beyer

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:43:49 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 79 F250 4x4

> From: "Bill Beyer"
> Subject: 79 F250 4x4
> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:08:59 -0700

> I have the chance to purchase a one owner 79 F250 4x4. It has 123k
> on the original 400 with a C6 and NP205. It was mostly used for

I'm already drooling, course I only want the axles :-)

> kit in it. The guy wants $3200 for it. Is this a good deal? The only

Seems a bit stiff to me, but if it's in really good shape it could be
a fair price. I just paid $3k for a 78 bronco in similar condition
with a solid tail gate and window that works but the floors are rusty
and a little bondo above the rear tires but I wanted it because it
had all the chasis and power train items I wanted and paid the price.
It was no deal but it was a fair price I thought based on others
I'd seen and various blue books prices :-)

> bad thing I've heard about this series is that the ram (?) type
> power steering is a little dicey. Any comments would be greatly
> appreciated.

Not sure what ram power steering is but the 79's have integral units?
Pretty good ones too I think, same as the broncos except different
housing.

My back hurts, my teeth may
fall out at any moment, Do they make
4WD Lincolins? With air suspension?

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:15:35 -0700
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: 79 F250 4x4

Bill Beyer wrote:

> I have the chance to purchase a one owner 79 F250 4x4. It has 123k on the
> original 400 with a C6 and NP205. It was mostly used for towing a 17 ft
> fishing boat around in the Pacific NW, very little actual four wheeling. It
> has a little surface rust on the hood where the paint has gone south but no
> other visible rust. I checked the rear fenderwells and cab corners and it
> seems to be pretty solid. I'm looking for a reliable daily driver which
> could handle some camping up in the mountains. It also has a shell and
> carpeted bed kit in it. The guy wants $3200 for it. Is this a good deal?
> The only bad thing I've heard about this series is that the ram (?) type
> power steering is a little dicey. Any comments would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Bill Beyer

Bill: I paid $3200 for a 78 F250 4X4 Supercab so this sounds like a good deal
to me. Great trucks and you will love it!

John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:40:13 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: Ford Red Book

Yea, Book rate is about $.50.

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> From: Brian & Jacque Milbrandt
> To: Fordtrucks
> Subject: Ford Red Book
> Date: Thursday, October 09, 1997 11:03 AM
>
> Hey everybody... If your interested in getting a copy of the Red
> book let me know. I just called them and found out that the book is
> priced at $6.98. And then I found out they want $4.95 for shipping and
> handling. But I then found out that there store is only about 15
> miles from me ! So I would be willing to pick up a copy for anyone who'd
> like one and send it out from the post office here for I'm sure alot
> less than the $4.95 they want.
>
> Brian
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:21:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Matheson u
Subject: How do I get off this

Sorry but this mail is just too much... Does anyone know how to
get my name taken off this mail list??
Your assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you


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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 19:03:28 -0700
From: Alan Mittelstaedt
Subject: Shop Manuals

I am looking for shop manuals. I need part three (the electrical
section) of the 1968 Ford Truck Shop Manuals, I already have parts one
and two. I am also looking for a complete set for my dad's car too (a
1963 1/2 Ford Galaxie 500 XL R-code). He has been looking for a
complete set of shop manuals for his car for a long time, and I would
like to find him a set for Christmas. If you, or anyone you know, has
any of these in GOOD condition, and are willing to part with them, let
me know your terms.

Thanks in advance.

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 20:09:53 -0400
From: Chris Kelly
Subject: INFO on 64 truck

Yes the motor is a 302 out of a van. It is mounted but never hooked
up...my dad bought it to fix up but just never had the time! It is a 3
speed, and I don't know anything about the rear. It resides in MD! You
can e-mail me personally if you have anymore questions.

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:24:28 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: IS THIS A GREAT LIST OR WHAT?

From: Dale
>Thanks to all who responded to my original post about cooling fans,
>especially Steve and Dave R.. I asked for options and we got plenty of
>them!

I agree, we have some of the best!

>Remember, the point is not to agree on everything (wouldn't that be
>boring), but to exchange ideas, opinions, and experience. Nothing is right
>for every situation, but the discussion here offers everyone the chance to
>chose what's right for them. It's the discussion that makes this LIST
>GREAT!

You are absolutely correct. One of my problems is I take things to
personally at times. When I do get mad I type a letter holding nothing back.
I can usually calm down by the time it's finished (some need to be long for
adequate cooling) then I delete it. When a reply is in order my second
letter is a little more controlled. Needless to say I've blown it at times!
When I do blow it I send an apology, not that it needs to be accepted or
justifies the first, but it's better than nothing! I also try and keep in
mind that it's not just who I'm are replying to, but a list.
If people disagree it's OK to post their disagreements and should always
include why, if you have a reference, include it, if you can't remember
where you seen it don't include it (one of my pet peeves). One thing that is
hard to except is no one is right and no one is wrong, there just different
opinions and there's always a better way. One of the things that gets to me
is when someone thinks I'm mad when I'm not. There's no mistaking when I'm
mad. I have the diplomacy of an MX.

>I haven't decided what I'll do fan wise. If money was no object then I'd
>like to try electric fans, but money is always an object! And when it
>comes down to spending the $$$ I'll probably put them where I get the best
>value. Right now I have other priorities, like fixing the body cancer and
>getting this thing painted.

I didn't take into consideration that I didn't have air-conditioning in
my truck and others may. I wasn't concerned about overloading my alternator.
I'm not sure what the fan draws but worth looking into if it is a concern.
If you get an electric fan from a "Pick a Part" type of junkyard it would be
a cheap way to see if you like the benefits and if you don't, with a 12v
converter you'll have a nice exhaust fan for the shop! I'm really
impressed with the difference the electric fan made in my '73 F-100 and
would recommend one. Next thing I want to change is the fuse box. I hate
glass fuses! Good luck with your truck.



Jim Strigas
AKA
Deacon Blues deconblu gte.net
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage for links to my favorite places on the Web
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
And to the Thunderbird Knights Homepage for a look at my favorite cars
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:02:06 -0700
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: [Fwd: Exempt From Smog Check II]

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I just thought all of us Californians would like to know this!


YEA!

Dana
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Dear Friends of SB 42:

The Governor today signed SB 42 exempting 1973 and older
vehicles from the biennial smog check requirement.

Chapert #801, the legislation will take effect January 1, 1998.

Thanks for your unwavering support!

Sincerely yours,

QUENTIN L. KOPP

QLK:SS


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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:01:01 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: gasoline

i do not remember if this link has been posted before. i apologize if it has but here it is. good info on fuel.

www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcnuts/rt-fuel1.html

and a good one on detonation too:

www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcrob/rt-fuel2.html

sleddog

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 22:28:53 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Sticker design ready, now goes to press.

At 09:47 AM 10/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
>How soon before they come out, can i order 3? and where do I send the Check?
>
>Mike in Seattle

I had posted a notice saying they were going to press this
morning. I made a mistake. I got my days mixed up and thought
today was Friday. The screen gets set up on Friday and they
print it either Friday afternoon or Monday morning. You
can order as many as you want. I'm getting 100 printed for
the first batch, so far I have commitments for about 50.
The address is:

(make it out to me as I don't have a seperate account for the
list since its a hobby not a business)

Kenneth Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts
P.O. Box 422
Lilburn, GA 30048

Stickers will get mailed out first thing next week on a
first come first serve basis. Everyone who orders will
get them as more will go to press if I run out.

Thanks,
Ken

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 22:33:18 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Label Information

At 03:08 PM 10/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Item Subject: Text Item
> Hello All,
>
> I posted this to the 60 and older list and since it pertains to all
> here goes. I've been looking for the cost clipper 6 valve cover label
> for a while.None of the suppliers I've found carry it. Happy to say
> I've found a supplier got my label and it's perfect. This place makes
> nothing but labels(who'd think you could make a living that way).
> Their catalog is 160 pages and covers all makes. Alot of ford stuff.
> Great way to detail an engine. For all interested:
>
> Jim Osborn Reproductions
> 101 Ridgecrest Dr.
> Lawrenceville GA 30245
>
> 770-962-7556
> 770-962-5881 Fax
>
> Rich
>

This place is literally 5 miles away and I never knew they
were there! I'll stop by there and give everyone the "scoop."

Ken

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 22:41:03 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: gasoline

At 11:01 AM 10/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
>i do not remember if this link has been posted before. i apologize if it has but here it is. good info on fuel.
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcnuts/rt-fuel1.html
>
>and a good one on detonation too:
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcrob/rt-fuel2.html
>
>sleddog
>

Added to our links page. Very informative.

Ken

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 20:37:28 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Yahoo for SB-42!

Good news!
Those of us Who live in California and own 65-73 trucks should
take our hats off for a moment for governor Pete Wilson!
Today He signed SB-42 into law!!!
This can only be a good example for other smog states also...

See below:
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Dear Friends of SB 42:

The Governor today signed SB 42 exempting 1973 and older
vehicles from the biennial smog check requirement.

Chapert #801, the legislation will take effect January 1, 1998.

Thanks for your unwavering support!

Sincerely yours,

QUENTIN L. KOPP

QLK:SS

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My '71 F100 is REALLY happy to hear this good news!
Overnight, it's suddenly become smog exempt!!!! YIPPEEEE!!!!!!!!

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty
"So many idiots, so few meteors."



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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:21:53 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Yahoo for SB-42!

Steve Delanty

> Good news!
> Those of us Who live in California and own 65-73 trucks should
> take our hats off for a moment for governor Pete Wilson!
> Today He signed SB-42 into law!!!
> This can only be a good example for other smog states also.......


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