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fordtrucks61-79-digest Wednesday, October 1 1997 Volume 01 : Number 250



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In this issue:

Re: Noise diagnosis (please) ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]
Re: the smog police are coming ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]
Spare Tire Carrier [JonP27604 aol.com]
Re: Noise diagnosis (please) ["deconblu" ]
Re: the smog police are coming ["deconblu" ]
[Fwd: please tell me i didn't screw something up this time.!!!!] [SLaG
Re: Ammeter Help. [GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)]
Re: Ohm's law [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: 352 Rebuild [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Puzzle [sdelanty sonic.net]
ADMIN: Window sticker info [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re:Noise diagnosis (please) [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Ohm's Law [GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)]
Re: [Fwd: please tell me i didn't screw something up this time.!!!!] [Bri]

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 19:39:01 PDT
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: Noise diagnosis (please)

>Strange thing happened on the way to work today. Pulled out onto the
>highway and "punched it", and then it started: clickita, clickita,
etc....
>Thinking engine problem, I dropped shifter into neutral and revved
engine a
>few times - no noise. Back in drive, under load ie: acceleration or
>climbing a hill, the noise is back. Can even feel it in the
floorboard.


Kevin,

I got the same sickness, but I think mine is a bad head.
I just put in a rebuild trans last month. So I dont think
its the trans. (Hope not... $750 $70 a month.)
Any how, mine just showed up 2 weeks ago, and the head is shot
on the 300c so Ill be changing heads soon. Ill let you know if
anything comes of it.

Mike

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 19:54:20 PDT
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: the smog police are coming

Hello Everyone,

Got a question,

I just went down to the DMV to register my girlfriends Escort,
and was told that I would have to pay a "Impact Fee" ($300) since her
car was from out of state and it would not conform to CA smog laws.

But even when I pay the impact fee, I still have to smog it every year.

Now the car has a sticker under the hood that said it conforms to
U.S. EPA regulation as of that time. (its a '95 4 banger)

OK, now the question.

If it conforms to EPA regs, why the impact fee, and why then would the
EPA have regs, seeing as every other state has its own laws?

And why am I paying the impact fee and then on top, going to smog it
every year?


something smells funny and its not the brake fluid
I wanted to go postal, but I was at the DMV.

Anyone got any ideas about this? Im confused and irritated at this
point.

Thanks
Mike





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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:03:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: JonP27604 aol.com
Subject: Spare Tire Carrier

If anyone is interested I would like to share this bit of information.

When I bought my '65 swb flairside it had the spare tire in the usual place,
in the bed of the truck. A few days ago I took the rack that mounts the tire
under the bed off my '77 F150 parts truck and put it on the '65. Now my spare
is in the factory location. The thing is I have noticed an unexpected
benefit. The back end does not shake as much when going over bumps! I figure
the reason could be a couple of things. The first is having the added weight
behind the axle helps keep it down. The second is the spare acts as a
vibration dampener helping to counteract the "shakes." Could this be Fords
reason for putting it there in the first place?

Any thoughts?


Jon E. Purut
JonP27604 aol.com

1965 F100 Daily Driver
1965 F100 Parts Truck Hoping To Revive As F350 Super Duty
1970 Mustang Fastback
1993 Escort Wagon (wifes car)
1977 F150 Parts Truck

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:15:50 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Noise diagnosis (please)

>Strange thing happened on the way to work today. Pulled out onto the
>highway and "punched it", and then it started: clickita, clickita, etc....
>Thinking engine problem, I dropped shifter into neutral and revved engine a
>few times - no noise. Back in drive, under load ie: acceleration or
>climbing a hill, the noise is back. Can even feel it in the floorboard.
>Oh, by the way - 460/C6. I checked the fluid level and it is up to snuff.
>Crawled underneath and didn't see anything obvious. I don't think it's a
>U-joint noise, they growl and clunk right? Also kind of a sudden onset for
>u-joints. Transmission maybe? I won't be able to work on it until a week
>from Friday (going out of town on business), but hope to get some ideas
>prior to that. TIA
>
>Kevin Lindstedt

Rear end? An Automatic would have more of a tendency to slip and I would
think if it was in the engine, putting it in neutral and gunning it you
would have something noticeable. I wouldn't count out the U-joints. Number 1
they are the cheapest and number 2 you will need to drop the driveline for
both the transmission and rearend. Once my U-joints dried out and the truck
shook like a dog passing a peach seed. When I went under the truck and
checked them, they seemed OK because there was no looseness in them. Turns
out that was the problem, they were solid. So even though they growl and
clunk they also have other cute little ways to let you know they are going
bad.
Good luck on your trip! Don't worry, the problem will still be there
when you get back! :)


Jim Strigas
AKA
Deacon Blues
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage for links to my favorite places on the Web
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
And to the Thunderbird Knights Homepage for a look at my favorite cars
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:38:47 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: the smog police are coming

Did someone say I want alot for my money? :)

Jim Strigas
AKA
Deacon Blues
Visit The Deacon Blues Homepage for links to my favorite places on the Web
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
And to the Thunderbird Knights Homepage for a look at my favorite cars
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/

- -----Original Message-----
From: MICHAEL FRISCH
To: fordtrucks61-79 ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: the smog police are coming



>Hello Everyone,
>
>Got a question,
>
>I just went down to the DMV to register my girlfriends Escort,
>and was told that I would have to pay a "Impact Fee" ($300) since her
>car was from out of state and it would not conform to CA smog laws.
>
>But even when I pay the impact fee, I still have to smog it every year.
>
>Now the car has a sticker under the hood that said it conforms to
>U.S. EPA regulation as of that time. (its a '95 4 banger)
>
>OK, now the question.
>
>If it conforms to EPA regs, why the impact fee, and why then would the
>EPA have regs, seeing as every other state has its own laws?
>
>And why am I paying the impact fee and then on top, going to smog it
>every year?
>
>
>something smells funny and its not the brake fluid
>I wanted to go postal, but I was at the DMV.
>
>Anyone got any ideas about this? Im confused and irritated at this
>point.
>
>Thanks
>Mike
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:12:08 -0500
From: SLaG
Subject: [Fwd: please tell me i didn't screw something up this time.!!!!]

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ps.it's a v8 automatic....anything else you need to know?
just email me
thanks..
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hey..
yes...i am new to this 4wheeling thing...so please bear with me.
i thought i would try and lock down the 4 wheel drive today for the
first time just to make sure i knew how..
so i jumped in the ol' 73 Bronco, took it in the backyard and proceeded
the best i knew how.
i locked the front hubs and everything....

It made a funny kind of tick tick tick noise...
and now i can't get the hubs unlocked ......HELP!!!

please tell me i didn't break something....any advice is greatly
appreciated...

please reply by e-mail
rasberry aaaa.net
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:31:21, -0500
From: GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)
Subject: Re: Ammeter Help.

I suspect your Ammeter is a shunt type. That means it is placed in
parallel with a suitable resistance to allow most of the current to
pass thru the resistor and a small part thru the Ammeter. The meter
is calibrated to give the proper reading. If that is the case then
one of the leads from the ammeter is probably open (disconnected) or
the ammeter itself is burned out. One way to test it is to disconnect
it completely and connect the leads from a ohmmeter to the ammeter,
it should cause some deflection and reversing the ohmmeter leads
should reverse the deflection.

Dan Lee
'53 F100, 351C-4V

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:39:43 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: Ohm's law

>Steve,
>
>5000lbs = F
>
>32 FpS2 = A( assuming this is correct for gravity)
>
>x Stones = M
>
>F = M x A OR M = F / A
>
>- -------156.25 Stones = 5000 Lbs / 32 FpS2-------
>
>(WRONG ANSWER 510.20 = 5000 lbs / 9.8 Newtons ( #$% METRIC))
>
>But where did 7140 come from ?
>
>Im starting to feel mathematically challenged!
>
>Dana
>

Err, I dunno about the F = M x A stuff...

My sources just list it as an old british unit of weight equal
to about 14 lbs.

Your answer looks fancier tho... (-:

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:39:46 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: 352 Rebuild

>I'm going to rebuild my 65 F-100's 352 and I'm considering changing the
>internals. Can you change the crank, rods, and pistons to end up with a 390
>or 410merc? Any and all advice will be appreciated.
>
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You betcha! But going 410 may be a little expensive unless You know
a cheap source for 410/428 cranks...

390 is a breeze. Crank, rods, pistons, like You said. Parts are easy
and cheap to find.

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:39:49 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: Puzzle

>I have a 67f100 short box that I just put a used 300 out of a 74..
>Still need the complete ignition system (Distrubutor etc) Any
>recomendations...

Sure, use the breakerless duraspark setup from a 75 (I think) and
later 240/300. Wrecking yards are full of 'em.
300's in trucks or 240's in passenger cars.
Grab the distributor, the Black box, the coil, and the connectors
with as long of wires on them as You can get.
It's an easy install, and a good working system.
I changed my FE390 to duraspark and love it. Later I added MSD, which
triggers directly from the duraspark distributor.


> I bought a "Parts Truck" Long bed 67 with a good running 352 in it... I
>want to keep my gas miliage high, but is there a big diff between the
>352 and the 300... I will be pulling a 18 foot boat and driving to and
>from work..
>Thanks for any input
>

When I got my '71 F100 it had a broken 240/6 in it.
When I cleaned out under the seat, I found a trashed little booklet
that the previous owner had kept mileage/fuel data in.
There was about 15,000 miles worth of fill-up info, and I calculated
that He was getting 13.2 MPG with the 240 with a T18 and 3.50:1 rear axle.
I have NO idea who this person was or what His driving habits were,
but I'm not too impressed by 13.2 ...

That same truck with same tranny/axle now has an FE390, mild cam,
4-bbl(edelbrock) electronic ign, and headers. I drive it fairly hard
and fast, a mix of city/freeway and get 12+ .
You decide.. Certainly the 390 is more powerful than the 240 was.

A 352 and a 390 will get about the same mileage.

When the 240 in my grandmothers 67 Galaxie blew up, I put a 300 in it.
Grandma kept pretty good records on fuel consumption. I don't remember
any numbers, but She always said it got about the same mileage or maybe
slightly worse after the swap. She said it "had a lot more Zip to it"
tho!

The 302 trucks usually seem to get the best mileage.

Personally I'd go with the FE, but the 300 isn't a bad motor. I'm
kinda partial to big sixes myself.
Well built 6's can *sound* really cool!
If Your boat is very heavy, the FE will probably make You happier.

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:39:53 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: ADMIN: Window sticker info

>Got a quote today and made arrangements for our static cling
>window stickers, quantity 100. Supposed to meet up with them
>tomorrow and give them a disk with the design....
>
>However, at 5:00pm today I joined the ranks of the gainfully
>unemployed. It'll be about a week or two before I'm employed
>again (computer programmer) so the stickers are on hold till
>then.

I'm sorry about Your job Ken. That can be a real bummer. )-:

I'll bet quite a few of us would be willing to send a "donation"
for their stickers up front, with any amount over the cost of the sticker
going to the "Help brother Ken in time of need" fund...

Tell us what the stickers cost, and let those of us who are interested
in one decide what we would like to donate to aquire one.
You've certainly done an awful lot for us, keeping the list running
smoothly, and there's no reason why You shouldn't make a little something
on the stickers for all the trouble You've gone thru to have them made.

That's how I feel about it anyway..
Only 100 stickers? That doesn't sound like very many.

Happy Motoring,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:39:56 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re:Noise diagnosis (please)

>
>
>
>Strange thing happened on the way to work today. Pulled out onto the
>highway and "punched it", and then it started: clickita, clickita, etc....
>Thinking engine problem, I dropped shifter into neutral and revved engine a
>few times - no noise. Back in drive, under load ie: acceleration or
>climbing a hill, the noise is back. Can even feel it in the floorboard.
>Oh, by the way - 460/C6. I checked the fluid level and it is up to snuff.
>Crawled underneath and didn't see anything obvious. I don't think it's a
>U-joint noise, they growl and clunk right? Also kind of a sudden onset for
>u-joints. Transmission maybe? I won't be able to work on it until a week
>from Friday (going out of town on business), but hope to get some ideas
>prior to that. TIA

Exhaust leak? Maybe a hunk of gasket blew out when You got on it.

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:46:32, -0500
From: GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)
Subject: Re: Ohm's Law

How fast will a Chevy go in Furlongs per Fortnight?

Dan Lee
'53 F100 351C-4V

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