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fordtrucks61-79-digest Saturday, September 27 1997 Volume 01 : Number 243



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In this issue:

OK, its my turn to ask..... [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams]
Re: Fuel tank coatings [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: BTU's 'R' us.. [sdelanty sonic.net]
OK, its my turn to ask..... [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Fuel tank coatings [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: weatherstriping [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: OK, its my turn to ask..... [boomboom mich.com (Scott in Michigan)]
Re: Ohm's law [danadeb pacbell.net]
re: need help! ["Payne, Kenneth" ]
Re: Ohm's law [Kevin Lindstedt ]
Re: need help! [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: OK, its my turn to ask..... [rick adc.com (Rick Larson)]
Re: need help! [Ken Payne ]
Re: OK, its my turn to ask..... ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]
Re: OK, its my turn to ask..... ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]
Re: OK, its my turn to ask..... ["MICHAEL FRISCH" ]

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:39:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: OK, its my turn to ask.....

- -> 4) Stearing question. Did the F100 come w/ power stearing? or assist?
- -> My girlfriend likes big arms, but this is getting out of hand.
- -> If not, can I rape a later chassie? Am I going to get in over my head
- -> w/ this type of project? If not, is this something a novice can

My '68 has been retrofitted with the power steering from a '75. Used
the whole column, in fact. The steering box bolts right up, the wiring
on the column took some head-scratching. It also has the I-beams, brake
booster, and front discs from the '75, which all bolted up. It was
cheaper to convert to discs than it was to find new '68 drums!


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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:08:25 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: Fuel tank coatings

>> Any advise on fuel tank coatings? (favorite types, etc?)
>> Should I even bother?
>
>Why not get a polypropyline tank and be done with it? By the time
>you take it off and buy all the coating stuff and recoat and recoat
>you could have this solved forever. It will out last the truck and
>it's owner no doubt?

Well, Yeah, but this is a "special application" tank...

It only holds 2 gallons, and it's custom built to fit where I need
it to live. Just got it finished yesterday. It's for my "new" heater.

If it was the stock tank I was fixin, I'd go with polypro...

Thanks,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:08:28 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: BTU's 'R' us..

>A quick check on the bypass hose is to clamp a pair of appropriately sized
>vice-grips to squeeze the hose to the desired restriction and test drive
>it.... just a thought.
>

Ahhh, I wish life was so simple!!

On FE, the bypass hose is about 2" (yes, inches) long. A nipple comes
out of the front of the intake manifold and goes straight into a nipple
on the back of the H20 pump.
There's only about 1/2" between the ends of the nipples.
Not much space for vise grips.
On any other motor that would be a good idea tho...

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:08:30 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: OK, its my turn to ask.....

>This is what I got:
>'70 F100 stepside short bed (I do mean short!!..;)
>300cid S6 w/ a c-4 (3 on the tree)
>
>So to make this quick.. here we goooo...
>
>1) What I would like to do is get rid of the vacume lines.
> Possably put an electrical ignition. Get rid of some of the
> smog devices, like the block under the carb w/ 3 outlits 2 of
> which are already pluged.

Later 300's had duraspark ign. One of these distributors would
drop right into YOur block. Be a little careful about removing the
smog stuff, in case the smog gestapo comes to Your state soon...

>2) Does anyone have an opinion on monoleaf springs on the rear?

Monoleaf? Dunno, I got a whole stack of springs back there..

>3) I got a ticking noise. (everyone does, dont they?)
> I beleave its from the valves. But I have been told that
> they are hydraulic. I have no idea what this means, every head
> I have worked on needed adjusting sooner or later.

Yes, they are hydraulic, but they are also adjustable on 240/300


>4) Stearing question. Did the F100 come w/ power stearing? or assist?
> My girlfriend likes big arms, but this is getting out of hand.
> If not, can I rape a later chassie? Am I going to get in over my
>head w/ this type of project? If not, is this something a novice can
>do over the weekend w/ a Chilton manual?

Yes, PS was available. Gonna do mine someday. A 71 F100 with FE390
is a little heavy in the front. (steering by armstrong!!)

>
>5) And last one..
> I there an easyer way to replace the wood slats in the bed, other
> then taring the whole thing apart?
>
> And just what kind of wood did Ford use? Any others that you guys
> have used?

Yeah, toss a sheet of plywood in = easy.
Replacing the wood requires raising the bed, and looks like a chore.
I need to do mine next year. I have a beautiful set of oak boards, all
custom milled to fit, but haven't had the energy to jack up the
bed yet. I'll replace my beat up metal strips with stainless steel
when I do mine.

I think the origional boards were oak...

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:08:34 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: Fuel tank coatings

>
>Steve--
>
>Try a local motorcycle shop for a tank sealer. I can't remember the
>name of the one I used, but it seemed to clean up a rusty KZ tank well,
>and is still in good shape. The one I used was a three part: (1)
>chemical etchant to remove all traces of rust, (2) solvent, probably MEK
>(Methyl Ethyl Ketone) to remove the etchant, and (3) plastic/polymer
>goop to roll around the inside of the tank and seal it. It takes a
>little while, and it will get you high as a kite if you don't watch it,
>but the stuff is awfully tough, and supposed to last forever. If you
>can't find it, let me know, and I'll make a couple of calls.
>

Thanks, I haven't tried any MC shops yet. Good idea.
If I don't find anything local I'll come askin Ya for more info
on what You used.

Thanks,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:08:36 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: weatherstriping

>Hi Everyone,
>
> I am planning to do the door weatherstriping on my '63. Does
>anyone have any tips? What to do what not to do, etc.
> I have never done this before so a little advice would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
>

No tips, but if You get any good ones please pass them along.
This is something I also need to do soon also.

Thanks,

Steve Delanty


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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:27:17 -0400
From: boomboom mich.com (Scott in Michigan)
Subject: Re: OK, its my turn to ask.....

Sounds alot like my '65! Power steering by armstrong, and all! On the bed,
tho: I've replaced the slats with wolmanized lumber (stained). Looks great,
and I know it's gonna outlast the truck! Just a thought!
Scott in Michigan>
>>This is what I got:
>>'70 F100 stepside short bed (I do mean short!!..;)
>>300cid S6 w/ a c-4 (3 on the tree)
>>
>>So to make this quick.. here we goooo...
>>
>>1) What I would like to do is get rid of the vacume lines.
>> Possably put an electrical ignition. Get rid of some of the
>> smog devices, like the block under the carb w/ 3 outlits 2 of
>> which are already pluged.
>
> Later 300's had duraspark ign. One of these distributors would
> drop right into YOur block. Be a little careful about removing the
> smog stuff, in case the smog gestapo comes to Your state soon...
>
>>2) Does anyone have an opinion on monoleaf springs on the rear?
>
> Monoleaf? Dunno, I got a whole stack of springs back there..
>
>>3) I got a ticking noise. (everyone does, dont they?)
>> I beleave its from the valves. But I have been told that
>> they are hydraulic. I have no idea what this means, every head
>> I have worked on needed adjusting sooner or later.
>
> Yes, they are hydraulic, but they are also adjustable on 240/300
>
>
>>4) Stearing question. Did the F100 come w/ power stearing? or assist?
>> My girlfriend likes big arms, but this is getting out of hand.
>> If not, can I rape a later chassie? Am I going to get in over my
>>head w/ this type of project? If not, is this something a novice can
>>do over the weekend w/ a Chilton manual?
>
> Yes, PS was available. Gonna do mine someday. A 71 F100 with FE390
> is a little heavy in the front. (steering by armstrong!!)
>
>>
>>5) And last one..
>> I there an easyer way to replace the wood slats in the bed, other
>> then taring the whole thing apart?
>>
>> And just what kind of wood did Ford use? Any others that you guys
>> have used?
>
> Yeah, toss a sheet of plywood in = easy.
> Replacing the wood requires raising the bed, and looks like a chore.
> I need to do mine next year. I have a beautiful set of oak boards, all
> custom milled to fit, but haven't had the energy to jack up the
> bed yet. I'll replace my beat up metal strips with stainless steel
> when I do mine.
>
> I think the origional boards were oak...
>
> Happy motoring,
>
> Steve Delanty
>
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 07:10:58 -0700
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Ohm's law

Steve,

Hay, My truck has a mass of about 510 stones! (assuming I remembered the
acceleration due to gravity correctly)

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:10:45 -0400
From: "Payne, Kenneth"
Subject: re: need help!

At 09:39 AM 9/25/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Do you mean your site or the numbnuts with the www.fordtrucks.com site?

My site.

>I stumbled across the other guy's site while looking for one like this
>one. Like you said, no value to that site at all. All I can think is
>he wants to sell the site to FOMOCO.

When I first emailed him about it he really thought $100,000 was a deal.

>Good luck. They probably found
>out what he was doing and told him to *!$ and went and registered
>another url. Oh well, maybe he'll get tired of paying to register a
>space no one wants to buy from him and either give it up or do
something
>productive with it. Seems funny that he still has his site and you got
>a major offer from a company wanting something with substance. Even if
>you decided not to take them up on it, it shows you've done something
>good and others recognize it. Way to go Ken!!
>

One of the main reasons I choose to get the new domain was precisely
because "big players" are entering the field. I wanted to establish
a solid base so the big commercial guys wouldn't knock us out. The
new domain has already made a difference, traffic and
subscriptions immediately doubled.

Ken

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 07:31:28 -0500
From: Kevin Lindstedt
Subject: Re: Ohm's law

> Wow, You get an "A" just for being awake in class!
> I know some people don't use this stuff often enough to remember it,
> and many have probably never learned it at all... Many don't care,
> but it can be really handy if You need it! (got a truck to fix...)
>
> For those of You who "forgot", here's ohms law in its various forms:

>

> Oh well, enough fun. Class dismissed...
>
> (Next weeks homework question: "How many Angstroms in a Furlong"?)
>

2.01168e+012 (give or take)

Kevin Lindstedt

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:23:31 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: need help!

On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:39:39 -0700 Tom Hogan
writes:
>Do you mean your site or the numbnuts with the www.fordtrucks.com
>site?
>I stumbled across the other guy's site while looking for one like this
>one. Like you said, no value to that site at all. All I can think is
>he wants to sell the site to FOMOCO. Good luck. They probably found
>out what he was doing and told him to *!$ and went and registered
>another url. Oh well, maybe he'll get tired of paying to register a
>space no one wants to buy from him and either give it up or do
>something
>productive with it. Seems funny that he still has his site and you
>got
>a major offer from a company wanting something with substance. Even
>if
>you decided not to take them up on it, it shows you've done something
>good and others recognize it. Way to go Ken!!

...... http://www.ford-trucks.com
>Someone else got www.fordtrucks.com before I did and all they want
>the address for is to sell it. The chump actually believes someone
>will pay $100,000 (yes, 5 zeros) for it! Let me know what you think
>of the site.


Remember that you also have .net .org and others. I checked into all of
these before getting ford ranger. com I was looking into a "ranger" domain
but all extensions were taken.

silent.bob juno.com
95 Ranger 2.3L and hoping to bring back a deer in the bed this weekend.

Bow season has begun!!!

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:38:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: rick adc.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: Re: OK, its my turn to ask.....

Scott in Michigan writes:
> >
> > Yes, PS was available. Gonna do mine someday. A 71 F100 with FE390
> > is a little heavy in the front. (steering by armstrong!!)

This reminded me of my '71 F100. A neighbor wanted to borrow the
truck to pick up a table at her parents house. "Sure!". She is
one of those "modern dancer"/actress/skinny things. She climbs
in and drives to the end of the cul-de-sac. She didn't turn
fast enough and backs up. A few minutes later she is still down
there. Finally she gets it turned around and parks it in front
of my house. She is too tired to get out of the neighborhood.

Maybe I need power steering too :-).

rick
'66 Mustang coupe
'71 F100

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 01:17:42 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: need help!

I checked into them. "net" is okay, but from my experience it
seems that people have a hard time remembering org addresses.
All the variations (other than my hypenated version) of
fordtrucks/fordtruck were taken, except for the org designations.
I guess, like myself, no one wants them.

>
>
>Remember that you also have .net .org and others. I checked into all of
>these before getting ford ranger. com I was looking into a "ranger" domain
>but all extensions were taken.
>

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 22:46:22 PDT
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: OK, its my turn to ask.....

>>Im new but have answered a few posts. So I just wanted to say HI!
>>and ask my Newbie questions..
>
>Hi Mike!
>
>>1) What I would like to do is get rid of the vacuum lines.
>> Possibly put an electrical ignition. Get rid of some of the
>> smog devices, like the block under the carb w/ 3 outlets 2 of
>> which are already plugged.
>
>I thought smog control started in '73! Anyway IMHO -H= I think your
>best bet will be figure where they all go. Is the plate an EGR plate
>or is it just a spacer. Is this the original engine? An electronic
>ignition was the best thing I've done to my truck. I got it at pick a
>part for $21.00.

I belive the spacer is for the EGR. Its a California truck and CA
law starts at '68.

As for it being the original engine, I belive so.

What kind of electronic ignition did you use? From what?


>>3) I got a ticking noise. (everyone does, dont they?)
>> I believe its from the valves. But I have been told that
>> they are hydraulic. I have no idea what this means, every head
>> I have worked on needed adjusting sooner or later.
>
>Yes and no! My 302 if there is a gap I need to buy a longer pushrod.
>Maybe one of your rockers is loose. A Hydraulic lifter is a cylinder
>with a piston in it. The cylinder fills with oil allowing a marginal
>Clarence and dampening. Every head you worked on was a Chevy I bet!

I hang my head in shame, they were chevy..;(

>>4) Steering question. Did the F100 come w/ power steering? or >>
assist? My girlfriend likes big arms, but this is getting out of >>
hand.
>> If not, can I rape a later chassie? Am I going to get in over my
>> head w/ this type of project? If not, is this something a novice >>
can do over the weekend w/ a Chilton manual?

>Anything is possible but never in a weekend!

Im soon finding this out...*G*

>>5) And last one..
>> I there an easier way to replace the wood slats in the bed, other
>> then tarring the whole thing apart?
>
>Get a piece of plywood cut to size and use wood screws to attach it >to
the old wood! It's going to cost some bucks replacing the wood
>restoring it to look original.

I tried this, but the original wood is so shot, my foot keeps
falling through the floor. And plywood looks so tacky going to
pick a parts on the weekend..;)

>>'70 F100 stepside short bed (I do mean short!!..;)
>
> FYI, stepside is Chevy, Flairside is Ford. But you have added weight >
to my bet on the heads! :) Good luck.

Im still learning, so give me a chance.

>Deacon Blues


Mike

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 22:55:18 PDT
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: OK, its my turn to ask.....

>-> 4) Stearing question. Did the F100 come w/ power stearing? or >->
assist?
>-> My girlfriend likes big arms, but this is getting out of hand.
>-> If not, can I rape a later chassie? Am I going to get in over >->
my head w/ this type of project? If not, is this something a >->
novice can
>
> My '68 has been retrofitted with the power steering from a '75. >
Used the whole column, in fact. The steering box bolts right up, >
the wiring on the column took some head-scratching. It also has the >
I-beams, brake booster, and front discs from the '75, which all >
bolted up. It was cheaper to convert to discs than it was to find >
new '68 drums!

Dave,

You hit more then one nail with this post. I was wondering about the
disk braks and power booster.
How do you determan what you can get parts from?
Now all I got to do is find a '75 or so..

Thanks
Mike

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 23:05:37 PDT
From: "MICHAEL FRISCH"
Subject: Re: OK, its my turn to ask.....

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>>This is what I got:
>>'70 F100 stepside short bed (I do mean short!!..;)
>>300cid S6 w/ a c-4 (3 on the tree)
>>
>>So to make this quick.. here we goooo...
>>
>>1) What I would like to do is get rid of the vacume lines.
>> Possably put an electrical ignition. Get rid of some of the
>> smog devices, like the block under the carb w/ 3 outlits 2 of
>> which are already pluged.
>
> Later 300's had duraspark ign. One of these distributors would
> drop right into YOur block. Be a little careful about removing the
> smog stuff, in case the smog gestapo comes to Your state soon...

Duraspark ign? Is this another one of Fords upgrades?

>>2) Does anyone have an opinion on monoleaf springs on the rear?
>
> Monoleaf? Dunno, I got a whole stack of springs back there..

I was reading about them in a mag a bit ago, and was wonderin what
the deal was w/ them. From what I get, its a stronger leaf w/ less
leafs. Mine are all out of shape. This is why I was wondering if
it would be easyer to just replace w/ a mono.

>>3) I got a ticking noise. (everyone does, dont they?)
>> I beleave its from the valves. But I have been told that
>> they are hydraulic. I have no idea what this means, every head
>> I have worked on needed adjusting sooner or later.
>
> Yes, they are hydraulic, but they are also adjustable on 240/300

Hmmm.. Ill be looking in the book about this one now that I know.

>
>>4) Stearing question. Did the F100 come w/ power stearing? or >>
assist?
>> My girlfriend likes big arms, but this is getting out of hand.
>> If not, can I rape a later chassie? Am I going to get in over my
>> head w/ this type of project? If not, is this something a novice >>
can do over the weekend w/ a Chilton manual?
>
> Yes, PS was available. Gonna do mine someday. A 71 F100 with FE390
> is a little heavy in the front. (steering by armstrong!!)

Im glad Im not the only one...*g*
>>
....


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